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January 20, 2018, 06:19:31 PM
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I posted enough evidence. You should be banned not just had negative feedback.
Now fuck off.
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January 20, 2018, 06:50:45 PM
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Where is your evidence you pathetic autist ?
Show me how this email is mine.
Show me how did I scammed you.
Show me that I was the one send you fake email.
Show me how the money come to me.
Show me at least something.
Where is your proofs
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January 20, 2018, 09:01:12 PM
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sad to be you antikonti. you got so much red trust since yesterday I can imagine why you are so mad.
just so you know, the red trust from Lauda and the pharmacist is equal a lot more than the retaliatory red trust you gave them since the way the trust system works here.
and now Lauda blocked you as well haha. I guess the next step for you is a ban?
wonder how your eastern european gang will handle that ban Cheesy

Edit:

P.S antikonti, how come you are not replying here?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2612993.0
 or you are simply trying to avoid using Donos and antikonti (both owned by you) in the same thread? Cheesy

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January 20, 2018, 11:34:38 PM
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I've also have been chatting this antikonti on skype. But I didn't get myself scammed, I was trying to negotiate with him to use proper escrow, I was asking him where is he located, where machines are located. Could not squeeze any grain of truth out of him, ended up not doing any deal. Sorry for your loss @OP.

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January 20, 2018, 11:48:07 PM
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He didnt provide any shipping info and in my video antikontitold me that goods were sent (lol)using DHL and then there was a mistake etc etc and NEVER i got a tracking nnumber.
Plus faked the escrow.
Its hard to lose money to scammer like these,I hope they choke on my money while eating a pizza or something.

All she/he does iss post PROOFPROOFPROOFPROOFPROOFPROOFPROOFPROOF and there is a ton of evidence.
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January 21, 2018, 10:19:31 AM
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He didnt provide any shipping info and in my video antikontitold me that goods were sent (lol)using DHL and then there was a mistake etc etc and NEVER i got a tracking nnumber.
Plus faked the escrow.
Its hard to lose money to scammer like these,I hope they choke on my money while eating a pizza or something.

All she/he does iss post PROOFPROOFPROOFPROOFPROOFPROOFPROOFPROOF and there is a ton of evidence.
Where is ur proofs for ur statements?
Prove that I faked escrow ?
Prove that I stole your money ?
There is ton of evidence ? Where they are ?
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January 21, 2018, 10:31:05 AM
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He didnt provide any shipping info and in my video antikontitold me that goods were sent (lol)using DHL and then there was a mistake etc etc and NEVER i got a tracking nnumber.
Plus faked the escrow.
Its hard to lose money to scammer like these,I hope they choke on my money while eating a pizza or something.

All she/he does iss post PROOFPROOFPROOFPROOFPROOFPROOFPROOFPROOF and there is a ton of evidence.
Where is ur proofs for ur statements?
Prove that I faked escrow ?
Prove that I stole your money ?
There is ton of evidence ? Where they are ?

shutup you filfh. you still don't get it, do you? nobody is buying your crap anymore. you can cry as much as you want but it won't help you. everybody knows you're a scammer.
so please, stop being so pathetic... you sound like a 5 year old girl.

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January 21, 2018, 01:14:59 PM
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Where is your evidence you pathetic autist ?
Show me how this email is mine.
Show me how did I scammed you.
Show me that I was the one send you fake email.
Show me how the money come to me.
Show me at least something.
Where is your proofs
Where is ur proofs for ur statements?
Prove that I faked escrow ?
Prove that I stole your money ?
There is ton of evidence ? Where they are ?
Every time I ask for justice and PROOFS.

You need proofs at the court.
This forum is not a court. You are not on trial.
Nobody gives a shit about a proof but only you.

The community thinks you are not a good person to deal with. Everyone who engaged in trading with you lost his money.
We look at the consequences, and warn other people that want to trade with you that, well, it's dangerous and that they will lose their money.
So we'll keep doing our job.

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We are the watcher on the walls.
We are the shields that guards the realms of noobz.

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January 21, 2018, 09:27:54 PM
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sad to be you antikonti. you got so much red trust since yesterday I can imagine why you are so mad.
just so you know, the red trust from Lauda and the pharmacist is equal a lot more than the retaliatory red trust you gave them since the way the trust system works here.
and now Lauda blocked you as well haha. I guess the next step for you is a ban?
wonder how your eastern european gang will handle that ban Cheesy

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P.S antikonti, how come you are not replying here?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2612993.0
 or you are simply trying to avoid using Donos and antikonti (both owned by you) in the same thread? Cheesy


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January 21, 2018, 10:01:20 PM
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With antikonti and Danos

There is always someone called 'Islapdonkey' who defends them

I think they are same account or working together
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January 23, 2018, 12:07:02 PM
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Sword? Cheesy darkness ? Cheesy watchers and walls? Dude stop the TV Cheesy
With your retarded logic everyone can start topic without proofs about it Cheesy
by the same logic tomorrow I will open thread without single proof how you jenia yogg are both scamming the community with thousands.
why would I need proofs ? that's not court ? Cheesy
retard
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January 23, 2018, 12:24:39 PM
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I also got scammed by this one.

I wanted to buy from this topic.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2410207.0

i wanted to do escrow, no problem from him. He told me to place a message in the topic of SebastianJu. I wil get an automatic email with the escrow info.

This is what i got
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*** This is automated message ***
*** Please read every line from the instructions for your own safety ****

Hello and welcome to SebastianJu official escrow services!
You requested escrow via PM and post on my thread ->
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1102721.0
My email can be found in my profile -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=18640
I received your pm and your email request on my thread
If you are buyer, please place your deposit here -> 17xC7bwSLCDHGuEtRrZKdW4bL7GuYPwQqT
Every single wallet created for escrow is new, and will be used only for this escrow trade.
So the payment can be tracked from blockchain.info without any other payments from or in it.
Reply to this email ONLY after deposit, without deposit escrow service cannot start.

Terms of service:

1.Seller username
2.Buyer username
3.Item/Digital good will be traded.
4.I escrow only payments via Bitcoin only.
5.If you want to be refunded, your only option for that is before the seller sends the item or after you receive it and don't like it. You cannot request refund if the seller already send the Item/Digital good.
If you receive your item/digital good and its not like it should be, after you turn it back to the original owner, refund will be released.
6.Explain with few words what the trade is and what's the amount for the trade.
7.If you received escrow wallet for deposit, you can deposit anytime you and the seller/buyer got agreement.
8.Escrow service starts only when coins were deposit to the escrow wallet. Please, do not reply to this email before coins were deposit to the wallet, because escrow service starts only after deposit.
9.There is 1% fee for the escrow service, but for every single trade above 20,000$+ fee is only 0.01btc

What is escrow service?
Escrow service explained with simple words: Me (as your escrow) holds the buyer payment (Bitcoins).
Once the payment is protected by escrow (me in this case) the seller can ship the item or deliver the digital goods.
Once the buyer receive his goods and confirm they are working as they should be, coins can be released to the seller.
Coins won't be released before buyer confirmation!

This is official escrow signed automated message.

That's pretty much all the important info... my previous trades and references:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1102721.0


Thanks for using me as your escrow.
SebastianJu Bitcointalk.

after this i transferred the funds.....after this was done he told me that he could not sell the items to me because his manager needed to sell3 units so i needed to add more funds. At this moment i also got a PM message from SebastianJu with the announcement that the walletadress was NOT his. and i have been scammed.

I told Anitkonti this and he told me that my money was NEVER in escrow, but with him from the start. I needed to add another 2k then i could recieve the units. If i would not transfer the 2K he would keep the 5K as donation.
This is what he indeed did. All proof on skype log

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Van:
Valerija Stankovic
at least i can do something from me

then i will recieve 3 * L3+ antminers including AWP3+++ psu and free shipping

Verzonden op:
ma

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 to make the things better for you

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Van:
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yes

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
I'm so sorry again iwan but that's the best i can do

i will make the transaction today...

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ma

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 i can understand that u are mad at me, but i can't do anything else than cover the shipping

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Van:
Valerija Stankovic
thank you sso much for the understanding

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i will ship the units tomorrow

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and provide u tracking number soon as possible

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
ok?

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and please, msg me here once it was send to check escrow wallet. if u can send 2000 not 1950$ so i can cover at least 50$ less because my boss is fucking me anyway with 400$

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
but if u can't do 2000 instead of 1950 i will understand

Van:
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no problem

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i made mistake now i should take the responsibility

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
okk?

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i need confirmation so i can tell my manager

i confirm, i will make the transaction today

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again...when this goes well, i wil place a larger order...

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 ok

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Van:
Valerija Stankovic
thanks for the understanding. msg me when ubsend to eacrow

Van:
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ok?

Van:
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let me know

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
hello ?

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
............

Van:
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I hope u will fix this soon as possible tomorrow so we can send the miners

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02:13

i just got an pm message from sebastianju

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07:39

should i say more???......

i cannot imagine you can sleep at night

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09:35

i am working my ass off to earn money and you with little effort scamming me from my money.

this makes me SO VERY ANGREE......

the way how you manipulate people

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 what

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11:57

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
no one scammed u

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
what message

the btc wallet is NOT sebastianju's wallet

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11:58

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 yes it is

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11:58

it is YOUR so called escrow wallet

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11:58

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 show me this message

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11:58

on moment

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11:58

Quote from: Nawikre on January 22, 2018, 04:41:53 PM
Sebastianju,

is this a correct wallet adress?Huh(see below, as i got this adress from you when i placed a remark in your topic) is this your wallet adress for the escrow service as i just got a request to send more money as they said they could not deliver the goods for this price, i need to order another unit bla bla.



On 21 January 2018 at 13:46, iwan kreft wrote:
Sebastian,

i already got an automated email with a wallet adres, i already used that one.
17xC7bwSLCDHGuEtRrZKdW4bL7GuYPwQqT

sorry for that...but the seller told me that he had used your service before and i should just send an email or post a topic and then everything is automatic.


On 21 January 2018 at 13:20, SebastianJu wrote:
Hello.

I am SebastianJu from bitcointalk.

You can verify my email address here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=18640

I am ready to escrow 4800$

Please send the payment here
1CXZKvnVT28oXCsJuCvZc1irdFi8rV4b7d



Sorry but that wasn't me. You have been scammed unfortunately. I disabled the email address now so that it doesn't show up anymore. Did he spoof my email address?

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11:58

Sebastion send me a pm with the messages that it is NOT his escrow adress, so stop lying

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11:59

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 this is email ?

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12:00

how can you live with yourself...scamming people like this......with MY hard working money

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12:00

no PM on the forum

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 iwan stop talk bullshit

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12:00

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
let me contact him and ask whats going on

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
no one scam from u

oke

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12:00

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 don't make me angry

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12:00

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
dont call me with bad name

you MAKE ME ANGREE

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12:00

but ask him

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 \no one is here to steal from u !!!!!

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12:00

no problem

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12:00

well, it is NOT sebastianju's wallet....

but ask him...please do

let's HO

HOPE this is a misunderstanding, but i doubt it

please also send you question to me in a CC

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 I can't believe this

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12:06

get in contact with SEbastianju and send put me in a CC with the communication

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12:07

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 i got email from 2 hours

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12:07

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
did u even check ur email

what did you get??

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12:07

i have checked my email, that is why this is all happening

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 i cant believe escrows do that mistake

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12:08

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i receive email he says: Sorry i did not check my sent messages from the automated system, will contact the buyer asap.

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
is this joke or something ?

copy paste his message

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12:08

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 that's what his message says

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12:09

copy paste his message here

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12:09

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 Seems like there was misunderstanding, I didn't check my sent messages on email from the automated system. Contacting the buyer right now

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12:11

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
this is the full message

i will ask him if he has sent this email...no problem

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12:11

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 ok

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12:12

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
did u receive email ???

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i need to know whats going on

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i dont want mistakes or problems

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
we respect all our customers

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and i dont like to be called with bad name

you told me that you haad everything packed, dhl sticker on it etc, but you could not ship it out because you must send out 3 pcs...correct?

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12:14

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 it is correct and everything is ready to be shipped

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12:14

take a picture of the parcel incl shipping label then

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12:15

to confirm that you have everything ready for shipping

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 package is on Germany, as it is noted on my thread shipping is from Germany, I'm not in germany

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12:15

offcourse, how convieniant

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12:15

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 excuse me ?

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12:15

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
before u continue to talk bad this to me check email from escrow !!!!

you cannot proove to me, that everything you told me is true

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12:16

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 yes i can ! this is misunderstanding

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12:16

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and its not my fault that escrow not checking his wallets

the point is...how can i/we resolve this

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12:16

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 escrow will resolve this not us !

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12:16

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
no one here is to steal ur money !!!

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
no one here can steal your money

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
please !

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
before you write bad things please check !

i do not have the energy left to write bad things...

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12:17

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 then check before write !!!!

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12:17

i already lost more then $8000,00

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12:17

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 it makes no sense to steal from someone 4-6k usd consider people buying from us and we will ruin our name

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12:17

i do not even know WHAT to check

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12:17

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 it is escrow mistake

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12:17

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
check ur email because consider we receive email from escrow

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
you should receive to

i only recieved email from Sebastian, not escrow

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12:18

gmail.com

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 check ur email

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12:18

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
spam

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
we always receive in spam his messages because his email is " sebastianju@bitmessage.ch"

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
bitmessage.ch is unknown domain to gmail

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i can't believe u blame us we will steal your money lol

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
did u check ur email ???

i just got an email with the text

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12:23

i have sent SebastianJu a pm with this email to see if it indeed is his email...

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 it is noted on his profile.

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12:24

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
I'm mad escrow put me on that situation and u call me with bad name

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
what he msg u on email ?

waiting for a pm from him

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12:28

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 
Screenshot
Captured with Lightshot
 Lightshot
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12:32

got it too.....the problem is that SebastianJu was just online on the forum....

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12:32

So i will wait for his answer

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 iwan

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12:33

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
he's gone for 2 weeks

as i do NOT believe he is gone for 14 days

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12:33

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 lol

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12:33

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
check the screenshot

i am not blind......but i will talk to him on PM

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12:33

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 no one is going to pm you

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12:34

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i already received 2 emails

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
dont make me mad

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
my manager will kill me

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
no one is going to pm us, already received 2 pms we can proceed the payment and he wont be here for 2 weeks

hope he does......

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12:34

hahaha

because i fell for it once.....but not anymore....i wil wait for the PM

nice try though

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 excuse me ?

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12:35

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
"nice try" ?

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i send him email again because your attitude

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
if u call me with bad name again, you can have your money back from escrow and buy from someone else

i have not called you a bad name....

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12:39

but i will wait and get the refund

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 i cant believe you are doing this

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12:40

i do, because i will never get a refund  and you know it

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12:40

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 are u kidding me right now ?

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12:40

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
send the rest 2000 and take your units

hahah NEVER...not without proof of you having the units ready with MY name on it

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12:41

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 units are not in my country even

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12:41

i am stupid enough so far...

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12:41

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 are u stupid ?

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12:41

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
seems like u are stupid

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
because u trying to cancel almost done deal

indeed, to be scammed by you....

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12:42

i am stupid

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 scammed ?

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12:42

ignorant and naive

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12:42

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 iwan are you retarded ?

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12:42

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
once u send the payment i will send you the tracking number in 2 hours

Dit bericht is bewerkt
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
just give me 2 hours

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and stop talk bullshits

nice try...again i am doing nothing before i get a real pm

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12:43

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 nice try ?

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12:44

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
look now

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
if u dont send 2000

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
there wont be any units for you

you can tell me anything, but you wil not get more money untill i get a pm

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12:45

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 i can call you anything ?

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12:45

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
do u want me to make u quit without money and units ?

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
dont make me mad

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i work with Sebastian from 3 months

You wil not get more money untill i get a pm

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12:46

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 ok

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12:46

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
you will never get pm

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
let me tell Sebastian to send you whats going to happened next

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
dont u get it

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
Sebastian work with us

offcourse.... but you wil not get more money untill i get a pm

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12:46

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 u wont get anything before u send the 2000

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12:47

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
do u understand now ?

you wil not get more money untill i get a pm

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12:47

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 ok

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12:47

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
we are done

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
last thing

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
if u dont send the rest 2k

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
u wont get ur money back

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
or any units

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
do u understand what I'm saying

that is not houw escrow works......

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12:48

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 escrow work for us from 3 months

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12:48

but i know now that YOUR escrow works this way

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12:48

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 we already have your funds

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12:48

thought so....

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12:48

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 so dont do bullshits

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12:48

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
make your payment, take your units and move on

you will get NO money from me

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12:48

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 do u really want to lose 5k just because u dont want to pay ur last unit ?

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12:49

i already lost the money as it is in YOUR account, not escrow

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12:50

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 if u dont pay ur last unit, i will take your payment as donation not as payment

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12:50

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
you lost nothing !!!!

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
we are not scammers stop calling us with bad name before i start call u with bad name

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
iwan let me explain you how the things are

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
escrow work with us, we have your funds from the first day

you have done enough

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12:51

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 no one is going to steal or scam you

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12:51

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
if you not going to send the last money for ur units

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i cannot send you anything because 3 is our minimum

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
its up to you

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
to do want your units or no

not falling for it.....

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12:51

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 i dont care what you falling or not

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12:51

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
do u understand?

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
you have only one way

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
either take your units or thanks for the donation

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
stop being fool

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and take your units

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
instead of losing ur money

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
read really careful before answer

if you are honost and true, you would refund me the money if i wanted to cancel the order. But you want to TAKE my money...

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12:52

when i want to cancel the order...

i wil not pay a CENT more because you already lyed to me about the escrow, SebastianJu etc...so you are not getting a cent....as you already stole my money

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 no one stole your money

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12:53

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
your money is here

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
either send us 2k usd

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and take your units

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
or u can move on with 5k loss

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
up to you

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
ur choice

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
stop being idiot, send us 2k, take your units

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
or u will end up without units and without money

if you are the honost one, send the money to the escrow wallet SebastianJu made.. 1CXZKvnVT28oXCsJuCvZc1irdFi8rV4b7d

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12:54

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 i told you the ways

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12:55

if this is done, i will add the rest

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12:55

and make the deal.

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 already told you

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12:55

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
feel free to proceed the rest 2k

no problem....that you will not do that...offcourse

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12:55

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 iwan, dont make the things worst

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12:55

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
take your units while you still have chance

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
the only way of you getting them is sending 2k

You have made it worse

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12:56

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 there is no other options

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12:56

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
kindly pay and take them

no, send the money into a real escrow wallet of SebastianJu, then i will pay the other 2K

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12:56

but you are NOT honost and wil not do that....

because you want to keep my money AND  the units

if there are even units

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 i will not keep the units if the money were send

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12:57

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
dont tell me what to do

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
dont make me to do things we both dont want

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
ok I'm going to give you 10 mins

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
enough talk

NO send the money into a real escrow wallet. Then i will add 2k and you can send the goods

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12:57

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 2k or our conversation is done here

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12:57

you will get NO money

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12:57

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 ok

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12:58

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
u will get no units

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and money

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
you choose this

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
not me

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
u have 10 mins to decide

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
pay us 2k and get ur units

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
or dont pay us cent

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and dont get anything

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
there was never escrow, all money is here

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
once u pay for ur 3 units u will receive them

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
if u dont pay for 3 units u will receive nothing

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
its up to you

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
do whatever u like

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i hope you understand now

i do understand

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13:00

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 i dont care what you going to say, here is the situation; you send 2k you got 3 units with 3 psu

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13:00

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
u dont send 2k there is no units

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
whats ur decision

Due ABUSE of the trust system on this forum, all deals will go ONLY THRU ESCROW

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13:00

the tekst on your add

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 that was AFTER our deal

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13:01

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
iwan i will be honest with you

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
please understand it before its late

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
we really have the units for you and they are ready

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
once i show the manager the money

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
units will be send in 2 hours

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i dont care u believe or not

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
the bad thing is if you dont believe

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
you will end up without money or units

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i dont want you to end like this

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
be smart

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
send 2k, take your units and never deal without escrow anymore in future

i wil be smart.....and wil not transfer more moeny untill i get things confirmed....but i know what wil never happen..

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13:02

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 things confirmed ?

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13:03

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
we confirm the things

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
not someone else

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i confirm with you

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
if u dont send the 2k

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
u wont get 1 cent or 1 unit

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
if u send the 2k u will get your stuff send today

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
if u dont send 2k there wont be any units or money

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and we both dont want you to leave with empty hands

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
so please, send the 2k

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
or i have no other option than leave this

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2785057.0

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13:04

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 i dont care what u show me

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13:05

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
2k or we are done

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
going to ask you for very last time

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
you going to send the 2k and take your units

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
or we are done here

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
your answer will either bring you 3 units

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
or leave u without 5k usd

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
ur choice

screw you....you have done this to many others.....

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13:07

fucking scammer

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 no i did not

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13:07

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
2k or we are done

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
whats ur answer

you are a fucking scammer.....

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13:08

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 i ask, 2k and take your units or we are done ?

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13:08

if i could kill you i would.....

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13:08

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 stop dreaming

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13:08

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
do u want ur units or no

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
last chance before i block you

then please block me

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13:08

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 dont forget that's your choice

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13:09

as you are never getting more money

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13:09

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 ok

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13:09

no it was YOUR choise

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13:09

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Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 as u wish

This is just the last part conversation....

So i lost 5k on this fucker.
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January 23, 2018, 12:56:24 PM
 #54

I also got scammed by this one.

I wanted to buy from this topic.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2410207.0

i wanted to do escrow, no problem from him. He told me to place a message in the topic of SebastianJu. I wil get an automatic email with the escrow info.

This is what i got
Code:
*** This is automated message ***
*** Please read every line from the instructions for your own safety ****

Hello and welcome to SebastianJu official escrow services!
You requested escrow via PM and post on my thread ->
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1102721.0
My email can be found in my profile -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=18640
I received your pm and your email request on my thread
If you are buyer, please place your deposit here -> 17xC7bwSLCDHGuEtRrZKdW4bL7GuYPwQqT
Every single wallet created for escrow is new, and will be used only for this escrow trade.
So the payment can be tracked from blockchain.info without any other payments from or in it.
Reply to this email ONLY after deposit, without deposit escrow service cannot start.

Terms of service:

1.Seller username
2.Buyer username
3.Item/Digital good will be traded.
4.I escrow only payments via Bitcoin only.
5.If you want to be refunded, your only option for that is before the seller sends the item or after you receive it and don't like it. You cannot request refund if the seller already send the Item/Digital good.
If you receive your item/digital good and its not like it should be, after you turn it back to the original owner, refund will be released.
6.Explain with few words what the trade is and what's the amount for the trade.
7.If you received escrow wallet for deposit, you can deposit anytime you and the seller/buyer got agreement.
8.Escrow service starts only when coins were deposit to the escrow wallet. Please, do not reply to this email before coins were deposit to the wallet, because escrow service starts only after deposit.
9.There is 1% fee for the escrow service, but for every single trade above 20,000$+ fee is only 0.01btc

What is escrow service?
Escrow service explained with simple words: Me (as your escrow) holds the buyer payment (Bitcoins).
Once the payment is protected by escrow (me in this case) the seller can ship the item or deliver the digital goods.
Once the buyer receive his goods and confirm they are working as they should be, coins can be released to the seller.
Coins won't be released before buyer confirmation!

This is official escrow signed automated message.

That's pretty much all the important info... my previous trades and references:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1102721.0


Thanks for using me as your escrow.
SebastianJu Bitcointalk.

after this i transferred the funds.....after this was done he told me that he could not sell the items to me because his manager needed to sell3 units so i needed to add more funds. At this moment i also got a PM message from SebastianJu with the announcement that the walletadress was NOT his. and i have been scammed.

I told Anitkonti this and he told me that my money was NEVER in escrow, but with him from the start. I needed to add another 2k then i could recieve the units. If i would not transfer the 2K he would keep the 5K as donation.
This is what he indeed did. All proof on skype log

Code:

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
at least i can do something from me

then i will recieve 3 * L3+ antminers including AWP3+++ psu and free shipping

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ma

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 to make the things better for you

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ma

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
yes

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
I'm so sorry again iwan but that's the best i can do

i will make the transaction today...

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ma

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 i can understand that u are mad at me, but i can't do anything else than cover the shipping

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ma

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
thank you sso much for the understanding

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i will ship the units tomorrow

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and provide u tracking number soon as possible

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
ok?

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and please, msg me here once it was send to check escrow wallet. if u can send 2000 not 1950$ so i can cover at least 50$ less because my boss is fucking me anyway with 400$

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
but if u can't do 2000 instead of 1950 i will understand

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
no problem

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i made mistake now i should take the responsibility

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
okk?

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i need confirmation so i can tell my manager

i confirm, i will make the transaction today

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ma

again...when this goes well, i wil place a larger order...

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 ok

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ma

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
thanks for the understanding. msg me when ubsend to eacrow

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
ok?

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
let me know

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
hello ?

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
............

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
I hope u will fix this soon as possible tomorrow so we can send the miners

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02:13

i just got an pm message from sebastianju

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07:39

should i say more???......

i cannot imagine you can sleep at night

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09:35

i am working my ass off to earn money and you with little effort scamming me from my money.

this makes me SO VERY ANGREE......

the way how you manipulate people

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 what

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11:57

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
no one scammed u

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
what message

the btc wallet is NOT sebastianju's wallet

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11:58

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 yes it is

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11:58

it is YOUR so called escrow wallet

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11:58

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 show me this message

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11:58

on moment

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11:58

Quote from: Nawikre on January 22, 2018, 04:41:53 PM
Sebastianju,

is this a correct wallet adress?Huh(see below, as i got this adress from you when i placed a remark in your topic) is this your wallet adress for the escrow service as i just got a request to send more money as they said they could not deliver the goods for this price, i need to order another unit bla bla.



On 21 January 2018 at 13:46, iwan kreft wrote:
Sebastian,

i already got an automated email with a wallet adres, i already used that one.
17xC7bwSLCDHGuEtRrZKdW4bL7GuYPwQqT

sorry for that...but the seller told me that he had used your service before and i should just send an email or post a topic and then everything is automatic.


On 21 January 2018 at 13:20, SebastianJu wrote:
Hello.

I am SebastianJu from bitcointalk.

You can verify my email address here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=18640

I am ready to escrow 4800$

Please send the payment here
1CXZKvnVT28oXCsJuCvZc1irdFi8rV4b7d



Sorry but that wasn't me. You have been scammed unfortunately. I disabled the email address now so that it doesn't show up anymore. Did he spoof my email address?

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11:58

Sebastion send me a pm with the messages that it is NOT his escrow adress, so stop lying

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11:59

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 this is email ?

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12:00

how can you live with yourself...scamming people like this......with MY hard working money

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12:00

no PM on the forum

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 iwan stop talk bullshit

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12:00

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
let me contact him and ask whats going on

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
no one scam from u

oke

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12:00

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 don't make me angry

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12:00

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
dont call me with bad name

you MAKE ME ANGREE

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12:00

but ask him

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 \no one is here to steal from u !!!!!

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12:00

no problem

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12:00

well, it is NOT sebastianju's wallet....

but ask him...please do

let's HO

HOPE this is a misunderstanding, but i doubt it

please also send you question to me in a CC

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 I can't believe this

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12:06

get in contact with SEbastianju and send put me in a CC with the communication

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12:07

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 i got email from 2 hours

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12:07

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
did u even check ur email

what did you get??

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12:07

i have checked my email, that is why this is all happening

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 i cant believe escrows do that mistake

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12:08

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i receive email he says: Sorry i did not check my sent messages from the automated system, will contact the buyer asap.

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
is this joke or something ?

copy paste his message

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12:08

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 that's what his message says

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12:09

copy paste his message here

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12:09

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 Seems like there was misunderstanding, I didn't check my sent messages on email from the automated system. Contacting the buyer right now

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12:11

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
this is the full message

i will ask him if he has sent this email...no problem

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12:11

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 ok

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12:12

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
did u receive email ???

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i need to know whats going on

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i dont want mistakes or problems

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
we respect all our customers

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and i dont like to be called with bad name

you told me that you haad everything packed, dhl sticker on it etc, but you could not ship it out because you must send out 3 pcs...correct?

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12:14

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 it is correct and everything is ready to be shipped

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12:14

take a picture of the parcel incl shipping label then

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12:15

to confirm that you have everything ready for shipping

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 package is on Germany, as it is noted on my thread shipping is from Germany, I'm not in germany

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12:15

offcourse, how convieniant

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12:15

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 excuse me ?

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12:15

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
before u continue to talk bad this to me check email from escrow !!!!

you cannot proove to me, that everything you told me is true

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12:16

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 yes i can ! this is misunderstanding

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12:16

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and its not my fault that escrow not checking his wallets

the point is...how can i/we resolve this

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12:16

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 escrow will resolve this not us !

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12:16

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
no one here is to steal ur money !!!

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
no one here can steal your money

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
please !

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
before you write bad things please check !

i do not have the energy left to write bad things...

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12:17

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 then check before write !!!!

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12:17

i already lost more then $8000,00

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12:17

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 it makes no sense to steal from someone 4-6k usd consider people buying from us and we will ruin our name

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12:17

i do not even know WHAT to check

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12:17

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 it is escrow mistake

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12:17

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
check ur email because consider we receive email from escrow

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
you should receive to

i only recieved email from Sebastian, not escrow

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12:18

gmail.com

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 check ur email

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12:18

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
spam

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
we always receive in spam his messages because his email is " sebastianju@bitmessage.ch"

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
bitmessage.ch is unknown domain to gmail

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i can't believe u blame us we will steal your money lol

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
did u check ur email ???

i just got an email with the text

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12:23

i have sent SebastianJu a pm with this email to see if it indeed is his email...

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 it is noted on his profile.

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12:24

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
I'm mad escrow put me on that situation and u call me with bad name

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
what he msg u on email ?

waiting for a pm from him

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12:28

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 
Screenshot
Captured with Lightshot
 Lightshot
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12:32

got it too.....the problem is that SebastianJu was just online on the forum....

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12:32

So i will wait for his answer

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 iwan

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12:33

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
he's gone for 2 weeks

as i do NOT believe he is gone for 14 days

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12:33

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 lol

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12:33

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
check the screenshot

i am not blind......but i will talk to him on PM

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12:33

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 no one is going to pm you

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12:34

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i already received 2 emails

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
dont make me mad

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
my manager will kill me

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
no one is going to pm us, already received 2 pms we can proceed the payment and he wont be here for 2 weeks

hope he does......

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12:34

hahaha

because i fell for it once.....but not anymore....i wil wait for the PM

nice try though

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 excuse me ?

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12:35

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
"nice try" ?

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i send him email again because your attitude

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
if u call me with bad name again, you can have your money back from escrow and buy from someone else

i have not called you a bad name....

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12:39

but i will wait and get the refund

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 i cant believe you are doing this

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12:40

i do, because i will never get a refund  and you know it

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12:40

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 are u kidding me right now ?

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12:40

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
send the rest 2000 and take your units

hahah NEVER...not without proof of you having the units ready with MY name on it

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12:41

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 units are not in my country even

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12:41

i am stupid enough so far...

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12:41

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 are u stupid ?

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12:41

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
seems like u are stupid

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
because u trying to cancel almost done deal

indeed, to be scammed by you....

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12:42

i am stupid

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 scammed ?

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12:42

ignorant and naive

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12:42

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 iwan are you retarded ?

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12:42

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
once u send the payment i will send you the tracking number in 2 hours

Dit bericht is bewerkt
Van:
Valerija Stankovic
just give me 2 hours

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and stop talk bullshits

nice try...again i am doing nothing before i get a real pm

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12:43

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 nice try ?

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12:44

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
look now

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
if u dont send 2000

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
there wont be any units for you

you can tell me anything, but you wil not get more money untill i get a pm

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12:45

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 i can call you anything ?

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12:45

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
do u want me to make u quit without money and units ?

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
dont make me mad

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i work with Sebastian from 3 months

You wil not get more money untill i get a pm

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12:46

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 ok

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12:46

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
you will never get pm

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
let me tell Sebastian to send you whats going to happened next

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
dont u get it

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
Sebastian work with us

offcourse.... but you wil not get more money untill i get a pm

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12:46

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 u wont get anything before u send the 2000

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12:47

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
do u understand now ?

you wil not get more money untill i get a pm

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12:47

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 ok

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12:47

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
we are done

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
last thing

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
if u dont send the rest 2k

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
u wont get ur money back

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
or any units

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
do u understand what I'm saying

that is not houw escrow works......

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12:48

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 escrow work for us from 3 months

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12:48

but i know now that YOUR escrow works this way

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12:48

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 we already have your funds

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12:48

thought so....

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12:48

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 so dont do bullshits

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12:48

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
make your payment, take your units and move on

you will get NO money from me

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12:48

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 do u really want to lose 5k just because u dont want to pay ur last unit ?

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12:49

i already lost the money as it is in YOUR account, not escrow

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12:50

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 if u dont pay ur last unit, i will take your payment as donation not as payment

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12:50

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
you lost nothing !!!!

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
we are not scammers stop calling us with bad name before i start call u with bad name

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
iwan let me explain you how the things are

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
escrow work with us, we have your funds from the first day

you have done enough

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12:51

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 no one is going to steal or scam you

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12:51

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
if you not going to send the last money for ur units

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i cannot send you anything because 3 is our minimum

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
its up to you

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
to do want your units or no

not falling for it.....

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12:51

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 i dont care what you falling or not

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12:51

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
do u understand?

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
you have only one way

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
either take your units or thanks for the donation

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
stop being fool

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and take your units

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
instead of losing ur money

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
read really careful before answer

if you are honost and true, you would refund me the money if i wanted to cancel the order. But you want to TAKE my money...

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12:52

when i want to cancel the order...

i wil not pay a CENT more because you already lyed to me about the escrow, SebastianJu etc...so you are not getting a cent....as you already stole my money

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 no one stole your money

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12:53

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
your money is here

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
either send us 2k usd

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and take your units

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
or u can move on with 5k loss

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
up to you

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
ur choice

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
stop being idiot, send us 2k, take your units

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
or u will end up without units and without money

if you are the honost one, send the money to the escrow wallet SebastianJu made.. 1CXZKvnVT28oXCsJuCvZc1irdFi8rV4b7d

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12:54

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 i told you the ways

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12:55

if this is done, i will add the rest

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12:55

and make the deal.

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 already told you

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12:55

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
feel free to proceed the rest 2k

no problem....that you will not do that...offcourse

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12:55

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 iwan, dont make the things worst

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12:55

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
take your units while you still have chance

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
the only way of you getting them is sending 2k

You have made it worse

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12:56

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 there is no other options

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12:56

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
kindly pay and take them

no, send the money into a real escrow wallet of SebastianJu, then i will pay the other 2K

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12:56

but you are NOT honost and wil not do that....

because you want to keep my money AND  the units

if there are even units

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 i will not keep the units if the money were send

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12:57

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
dont tell me what to do

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
dont make me to do things we both dont want

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
ok I'm going to give you 10 mins

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
enough talk

NO send the money into a real escrow wallet. Then i will add 2k and you can send the goods

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12:57

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 2k or our conversation is done here

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12:57

you will get NO money

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12:57

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 ok

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12:58

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
u will get no units

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and money

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
you choose this

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
not me

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
u have 10 mins to decide

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
pay us 2k and get ur units

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
or dont pay us cent

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and dont get anything

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
there was never escrow, all money is here

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
once u pay for ur 3 units u will receive them

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
if u dont pay for 3 units u will receive nothing

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
its up to you

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
do whatever u like

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i hope you understand now

i do understand

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13:00

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 i dont care what you going to say, here is the situation; you send 2k you got 3 units with 3 psu

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13:00

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
u dont send 2k there is no units

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
whats ur decision

Due ABUSE of the trust system on this forum, all deals will go ONLY THRU ESCROW

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13:00

the tekst on your add

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 that was AFTER our deal

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13:01

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
iwan i will be honest with you

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
please understand it before its late

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
we really have the units for you and they are ready

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
once i show the manager the money

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
units will be send in 2 hours

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i dont care u believe or not

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
the bad thing is if you dont believe

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
you will end up without money or units

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i dont want you to end like this

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
be smart

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
send 2k, take your units and never deal without escrow anymore in future

i wil be smart.....and wil not transfer more moeny untill i get things confirmed....but i know what wil never happen..

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13:02

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 things confirmed ?

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13:03

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
we confirm the things

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
not someone else

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
i confirm with you

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
if u dont send the 2k

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
u wont get 1 cent or 1 unit

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
if u send the 2k u will get your stuff send today

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
if u dont send 2k there wont be any units or money

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
and we both dont want you to leave with empty hands

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
so please, send the 2k

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
or i have no other option than leave this

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2785057.0

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13:04

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 i dont care what u show me

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13:05

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
2k or we are done

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
going to ask you for very last time

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
you going to send the 2k and take your units

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
or we are done here

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
your answer will either bring you 3 units

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
or leave u without 5k usd

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
ur choice

screw you....you have done this to many others.....

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13:07

fucking scammer

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 no i did not

Verzonden op:
13:07

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
2k or we are done

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
whats ur answer

you are a fucking scammer.....

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13:08

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 i ask, 2k and take your units or we are done ?

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13:08

if i could kill you i would.....

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13:08

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 stop dreaming

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13:08

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
do u want ur units or no

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
last chance before i block you

then please block me

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13:08

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 dont forget that's your choice

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13:09

as you are never getting more money

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13:09

Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 ok

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13:09

no it was YOUR choise

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13:09

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Van:
Valerija Stankovic
 as u wish

This is just the last part conversation....

So i lost 5k on this fucker.

sad to hear your story. you are not the 1st one and definitely not the last....
next time try to pay more attention to the TRUST score of the user you are dealing with. I would also suggest contacting moderators here.
try  

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But  i thought through escrow is safe....but could not think that he could do it like this...
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But  i thought through escrow is safe....but could not think that he could do it like this...

and that's exactly why trust scores exist. to inform you about that and to stay away from such scumbags no matter what. well, now you know. too bad it cost you 5k  Sad

please PM the above mentioned users so they can give this scum even more bad trust

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January 23, 2018, 05:08:29 PM
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by the same logic tomorrow I will open thread without single proof how you jenia yogg are both scamming the community with thousands.
why would I need proofs ? that's not court ? Cheesy

Please, go ahead and let's see what happens. Smiley
You can involve Danos as well. Maybe you can put your blob texts in common since he also want to open a scam accusation against Jenia and myself.  Cheesy

antikonti, you're so full of shit I wonder if you were conceived in the right hole ...

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January 23, 2018, 06:08:12 PM
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by the same logic tomorrow I will open thread without single proof how you jenia yogg are both scamming the community with thousands.
why would I need proofs ? that's not court ? Cheesy

Please, go ahead and let's see what happens. Smiley
You can involve Danos as well. Maybe you can put your blob texts in common since he also want to open a scam accusation against Jenia and myself.  Cheesy

antikonti, you're so full of shit I wonder if you were conceived in the right hole ...

why u even trying to add my name here idiots?
i don't trade, i catch scammers like this one and you guys also.
from everything seen so far seems like this guy is scammer after all.

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why u even trying to add my name here idiots?
i don't trade, i catch scammers like this one and you guys also.
from everything seen so far seems like this guy is scammer after all.
You and Jenia are pathetic alt of scammers and trust farmers who selling and buying accounts, also scamming coins from ICO's, stealing and lying around with multiple alts.
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So if this forum don't like to see proof about the claims, i will be more than happy to spend 30 mins to open awesome topic against both of you two without single proof as the OP doing here.

antikonti wants to start a scam accusation against Jenia and myself as well.
Let's join your forces ! Don't you have 30 mn to "happily" do so ?  Roll Eyes

Maybe.. you're the inbred twin of antikonti ?  Huh
Since your word is shit as well, you can't even carry out your threats ...

How pathetic from both of you.  Roll Eyes

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January 23, 2018, 08:41:19 PM
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fuck antikonti, fuck you and fuck jenia Smiley
all of you are scammers at least this retard is already proven one and tagged.
the community is waiting jenia and you to be tagged and we can sleep well.
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