A request to Blazed (and others who are in plan to recruit more DT members)

[EcuaMobi]

OK, I can do that but it'll take quite some time

I don't think there's a rush

I know the shitposters will be throwing a victory parade. 

Let's hope it's just temporary, and it worked as a warning for most of them

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[actmyname]

I tried to help, as did actmyname and Blazed.  At least we got a fired-up discussion going and pissed off a lot of shitposters.  I'll be removing my feedbacks, but it'll take some time to do so.

Moved them to aTriz's thread. I'll sort out the details later but for now it's not great for copying (it's scraped from the trust list and hasn't been cleaned up yet—I'll make it username-only later)

[LoyceV]

but I'll start changing the negs to neutrals tomorrow.   I'm going to assume theymos will be OK with that.  I know the shitposters will be throwing a victory parade. 

How nice would it be if all shitposters would have their Merit and sMerit reset to 0? That would put all of them back to Jr. Member, and they'd have to post quality to level up, just like any other Newbie now.

[Lauda]

We may be able to add them to SMAS and enforce it, tag them as spammers or other solution.

That's not effective unless you can force all managers to use that list.

Thats very good to hear that,you deserved to have a commendation for being brave and these shitposters deserved a second chance.

They did not. They literally did not.

but I'll start changing the negs to neutrals tomorrow.   I'm going to assume theymos will be OK with that.  I know the shitposters will be throwing a victory parade. 

How nice would it be if all shitposters would have their Merit and sMerit reset to 0? That would put all of them back to Jr. Member, and they'd have to post quality to level up, just like any other Newbie now.

That is not something that I believe theymos would implement.

[Yara1]

I tried to help, as did actmyname and Blazed.  At least we got a fired-up discussion going and pissed off a lot of shitposters.  I'll be removing my feedbacks, but it'll take some time to do so.

You may consider leaving neutral instead. Just to keep track. There's hope there will be some changes to fight low-quality posts and we could re-use your work.
We may be able to add them to SMAS and enforce it, tag them as spammers or other solution.

OK, I can do that but it'll take quite some time.  Right now I just have a phone, but I'll start changing the negs to neutrals tomorrow.   I'm going to assume theymos will be OK with that.  I know the shitposters will be throwing a victory parade. 

Thank pharmacist for your reconsiderations, we have learn our lesson and the neutral trust you promised will be just OK, thanks once again we will be waiting for your feedback.

[Thule]

Some heavy abusiv members which should be banned for their past action


Lauda
The Pharmacist
TMAN
actmyname
Vod

There are some more people benefiting from that group but it seems they are holding it more on distance seeing the massiv abuse the group is creating and just don't want to be recognised with it


Basicly all in the same gang abusing massivly trust system and destroying competitors or people exposing them.

They also already started to abuse Merit System.Just have a look at Lauda's merit logs and you will see the same circle giving themself merit points


These are the real scammers who deserve to get banned for discrediting and destroying legit people


They claim they want to enforce project to not accept negativ rated members but themself adding ratings they have no problem with it.
Asking myself if they have a problem with it if everyone is going to start doing it.
Only watching for their own fucking benefit and nothing more

Best of all they claim circle giving merits is legit because there is no term/rule which is denying it.
However they have no problem at all giving negativ feedback and calling people scammers for actions which are also not against forum terms/rules.

A group of assholes who only look for their own advantage and nothing more abusing massivly their trust power and nothing more.
Am really asking myself how a messagboard like BCT can keep these scammers

[Thule]

When they are tagged, More noob accounts will post crap to rank up and join again, This will worsen the situation.

I believe that if you let them do what they want, as already shown, that the infestation will be much greater.

The hope is with a threat of ruined accounts people will behave better...

Or that shitcampaigns will start accepting people with negative trust, thus making the work useless.

I have no problem tagging projects who employ corrupt managers / do not employ managers / accept managers or users with negative ratings.

I know a lot of people who are pissed about your massiv abuse and will give you shortly a massiv amount of negativ feedback for your past actions.
Will love to see if you are going to ban yourself from projects with your negativ feedback.
But i guess you will quickly contact your slap dogs to add new trust points to your account like you are doing it already with merit.

The first member who should be banned and kicked out is you and nobody else.
You are the biggest fraudster here and how many legit accounts you destroyed i'm not even able to count anymore.

Adding negativ rating for something what you are doing yourself and defending its legit.
Just proofs that BCT has no clear line and was/is and still will be abused by that small group if nothing changes

People stopped posting quality stuff because of these asshole who are abusing massivly their power and once someone honest comes (even legenadary) he will be instantly discredited to -200 points to shut his mouth so you can keep abusing.


I will make everything public about Lauda.The great thing is that BCT is not the only forum on the planet and when posting all that info on the other 299 crypto messageboards people will be aware what shit here is going on and that it won't change before your clean these abusiv people out

[Thule]

A great example a guy registering at BCT trying to find terms and all guidelines who can't find any info if buying accounts are prohibited creates a thread to make sure he makes no mistake
and simply asks if its allowed at this board to buy accounts.

Instant reply with negativ feedbacks and scam accusations from these idiots.
Even he explained himself that he clearly didn't wrote that he wants to buy any account but just asked if its allowed since he can't find any info in terms and guildelands these losers Lauda,
The Pharmacist and TMAN keeped defending their decission and attacking him that they won't take any feedback back which was already given.



If you have such people on top of that board you can basicly say goodbye to the quality

and more important you must be blind not seeing its being abused for own beneficial reasons

With these people the board is going to lose more creditibility

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Best of all they claim circle giving merits is legit because there is no term/rule which is denying it.

Dude, what's up with all this merit-giving hate?  

The whole thing is that you give merit points to the posts you like, correct?  Well, the only posts I enjoy reading are from the small circle of people on bitcointalk that I respect--in general, and that isn't to say I won't give out any merit to noobs.  I just haven't yet.  I've had my ass kicked with the flu for about 6 days now and haven't been doing much reading lately.  

I'm starting to really like the merit system here, because I'm seeing a lot of the shitposters complaining about it.  Definitely a good move from Theymos.  

Sorry if you think I'm abusing the system, but apparently you (and a lot of others) don't see the problem as clearly as I do.  Bitcointalk has become near unusable because of all the garbage posts, which are all motivated by sig campaigns.  That's the real problem.

[Thule]

seems like you all enjoy at the same time during 11 minutes and when checking the post which got merit ,it's a single word "butthead" seems very legit.Great quality post you like.You are right you can read something like that only from your group.
You fuckers are clearly scammers trying to abuse the system and talking bullshit that you like only posts from the other morons.

If somebody else would post something stupid like you did he would have already -50 trust.

You deserve to get insta banned for being such an asshole and trying to feed the community with your bullshit which a 5 year could create a better one

Sorry if you think I'm abusing the system, but apparently you (and a lot of others) don't see the problem as clearly as I do.  Bitcointalk has become near unusable because of all the garbage posts, which are all motivated by sig campaigns.  That's the real problem.

Don't try to cover your abuse behind garbage post.
Your trust feedback is also garbage which needs to be eliminated.
Your abuse in the small group is the biggest garbage here which needs to be eliminated.

You want to kill gargebage post? There are other possibilities way more effectiv than the junk you and your group are doing basicly for self benefits


It's also funny how you changed your language ....i guess because here are some high ranked members reading which are not amused with your group



@Lauda

You posted at my trust feedback "scam" .
I'm running a legit company and i'm demanding proof that i scammed or was going to scam someone since you caused me big harm.

Since i know there never was a scam as i never scammed somebody or have the need to scam somebody i will demand an offical apolagy for that false accuse (archived already) which can be seen by everyone
or if you deny to do it that the staff should take actions against you for abusing your power and discrediting me publicly with the word scam without having any proof at all



And two more points which are going to kill the abuse of Lauda and his/her group

At forums guideline/terms which was posted by a global mod of this forum you can read

Q: I saw a guy selling Bitcointalk accounts. Why is that allowed?
A: Since we can't effectively prevent these sales (proxies, TOR, sales in other forums), we don't because otherwise we would be giving the users a false sense of security.

If you read it carefully you see its saying selling accounts is being allowed !!!!
So all the negativ feedback they provided is basicly against the forum rules since its allowed

Q: Why haven't you banned <insert scammer username here> who is an obvious scammer?
A: Possible (or real, not for me to decide) scams are not moderated to prevent moderator abuse. If we start picking out which ones we call "scammers" and ban, we would make a lot of decisions based on biased opinions.

I really love the old board and its view.
The mods at that time tried to prevent exectly what that fucking abusiv scammer group is doing

Maybe its time to get back to routes and add smart solutions to eliminate gargabe but first of all that group

@mprep your guideline/terms is just awesome

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0

[reypinioco]

Im waiting for thepharmacist's neutralization of his red trust list.Id hope he has the balls to that,as he already said he will but it will take sometime because there are thousands in his list including me.

[802529er]

Im waiting for thepharmacist's neutralization of his red trust list.Id hope he has the balls to that,as he already said he will but it will take sometime because there are thousands in his list including me.

Thepharmacist might, but I’d much prefer if Lauda would kindly look over the mountain of neg trust he left with zero evidence.

Claiming all of something is a “scam” and taking it upon yourself to ruin the ability for members to join campaigns or take part in one discussion is wrong.



Not to mention the unlikelyhood of neg trust users getting merit, and it’s pretty obvious this is a massive abuse of the trust system

[Thule]

here another one of their circle

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=313016


It seems they love each other and upvote each crap what a coincidence......of course no abuse

[Thule]

Hi Thule,
I keep reading bad stuff about Lauda and company. I suppose they are really hated for their abuse of the trust system. I noticed almost all members here doesnt like them but I dont know why they are still here. It makes me angry and feel this forum is very biased and power tripper. Everyone just kiss their ass so they won't get neg trust but does not sincerely like them. If polls will be created on which member should be kicked out I'm pretty sure its them. I admire your courage for stepping up and be the voice of the quiet majority here. Please be the instrument to change this forum to be better and destroy the evils like Lauda and company.

System trust will still be the benchmark, I think the system trust is much higher because not everyone can get it. System trust remains a thing to see that the account does have a good reputation. The existing merit system I think will help eliminate some spammers because only people who have good post quality can get it, it is still in development stage and hopefully merit system can be in accordance with fact because most of the time some of the conditions are often misused.

I doubt the merit system will work at all with no control.Merit is basicly a reputation system if i understand it correctly.
It has been used so many times on diffrent boards and it always was abused after certain amount of time.

First the circles exchanging themself merit.Since the staff has no time for scammers i doubt staff will have time to check logs who is participating in such circles.
Second mostly higher ranked users got more merit power than average users which will grow exponencially.
Means after certain time a simple merit like from a high ranked member could be worth like 20-50 normal members.
Thats not decentralisation of power which was the main idea of this board.

Its clearly the attempt to take full controll by a small group which destroyes everyone who won't consent their BS.

Using this kind of system will just attract more spammers to build trusted accounts and start services.It has been proven on each other messageboard even on heavy moderated ones.


What is also funny if you check my and from many other people negativ trust feedbacks and attacks on our threads when calling somebody out you can clearly see that all these people are connected togther.

Just open their trust feedback and merit and you will instantly see that they are in the exchange circle.The abuse of merit has already started

WHAT A COINCIDENCE

[reypinioco]

Thank you ThePharmacist for being considerate.
Dont worry i will do my best not to post low quality contents from now on.

I wish i have more sMERITS to give
I have commended you as a Default Trust.,you have my trust back.

[TMAN]

here another one of their circle

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=313016


It seems they love each other and upvote each crap what a coincidence......of course no abuse

There are 50 plus people from collectibles who talk off forumsnd IRL many of us have met each other.. would it be a massive surprise if we actually read each other's posts and gave them points?

[cryptoatomic]

Thank you ThePharmacist for being considerate.
Dont worry i will do my best not to post low quality contents from now on.

I wish i have more sMERITS to give
I have commended you as a Default Trust.,you have my trust back.

woah,thats nice i should wait for my turn to get my trust back.I have been tagged for posting 3rd world generic shitpost but i dont understand what he meant by that?? But the fact that the trust system is meant to be given to those scammers,he had given me without further explanation,I didnt scam nor try to.I am not a native speaker but i can write constructive sentences if i wanted to.I should write more complex and longer sentences if thats what he wants.

[Thule]

Thank you ThePharmacist for being considerate.
Dont worry i will do my best not to post low quality contents from now on.

I wish i have more sMERITS to give
I have commended you as a Default Trust.,you have my trust back.

woah,thats nice i should wait for my turn to get my trust back.I have been tagged for posting 3rd world generic shitpost but i dont understand what he meant by that?? But the fact that the trust system is meant to be given to those scammers,he had given me without further explanation,I didnt scam nor try to.I am not a native speaker but i can write constructive sentences if i wanted to.I should write more complex and longer sentences if thats what he wants.

Stop ass licking.
He abuses the trust system and you try to justify it with longer sentences ?
Really ?Do you have no back to stand your ground.

Tell him directly you fucking asshole abused the trust system and had no reason to give me negativ feedback.
Maybe next time somebody is going to justify to get negativ feedback because his nick begins with an A instead a B

[cryptoatomic]

Thanks my boy!commended your bravery thePharmacist,i am no spammer nor scammer.Lets hope that those spammers wont rank here!

[otrkid70]

Thank you ThePharmacist for being considerate.
Dont worry i will do my best not to post low quality contents from now on.

I wish i have more sMERITS to give
I have commended you as a Default Trust.,you have my trust back.

woah,thats nice i should wait for my turn to get my trust back.I have been tagged for posting 3rd world generic shitpost but i dont understand what he meant by that?? But the fact that the trust system is meant to be given to those scammers,he had given me without further explanation,I didnt scam nor try to.I am not a native speaker but i can write constructive sentences if i wanted to.I should write more complex and longer sentences if thats what he wants.

Stop ass licking.
He abuses the trust system and you try to justify it with longer sentences ?
Really ?Do you have no back to stand your ground.

Tell him directly you fucking asshole abused the trust system and had no reason to give me negativ feedback.
Maybe next time somebody is going to justify to get negativ feedback because his nick begins with an A instead a B

Keep fighting the good fight Thule.