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January 24, 2018, 10:35:42 PM
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You are a merit source.
My next question is: Who are all the sources of merit?

I've just been merited by a Full member, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=926641, i'm guessing anyone that currently has merits is some sort of source, which presumably is going to be able to give less merit the less his total merit score is?

Edit: see OP, members can give merit aswell.

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You have received a total of 10 merit. This is what determines your forum rank. You typically cannot lose this merit. You have 1 sendable merit (sMerit) which you can send to other people. There is no point in hoarding sMerit; keeping it yourself does not benefit you, and we reserve the right to decay unused sMerit in the future.


So, normal members have 1 sMerit?

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January 24, 2018, 10:36:44 PM
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why satoshi has only 250 merit?
363 activity, thus senior member.
Motion to give satoshi 21M merit.
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I'll back you up on that one. I give you a +Merit.


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January 24, 2018, 10:37:03 PM
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I would like to know whether this system of merit can further influence campaigns beyond classification is it necessary a certain amount of merit? Does anyone have this information?
Of course it can. Instead of ranks, use *minimum merit* campaigns. You can make *very elite* campaigns by asking for extremely high merit counts.

It would be nice to see someone chart this into a ranking and some graphical data (quantiles or something).

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January 24, 2018, 10:37:44 PM
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i didn't yet all understood about this new merit system but if there are vote who can bring reward then it will draw more multi accounters than usual for grab reward
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January 24, 2018, 10:37:57 PM
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You are a merit source.
My next question is: Who are all the sources of merit?
Possibly related to my copper membership, or maybe DT?
We could figure this out, are you a source as well?

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January 24, 2018, 10:38:09 PM
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I think this was the initial idea:
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To attain ranks above Member, you'd have to earn some number of merit points. Merit points would be awarded in a monthly vote on best posts of the previous month, with various measures (TBD) to prevent gaming of the vote. Winning merit points might also come with a BTC prize.
There was a long discussion regarding the changes here >
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2605767.0

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January 24, 2018, 10:38:29 PM
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I was looking for some answers on the merit functionality recently added to the forum and stumbled up on here. I have also noticed that a "+merit" button has been added which will allow other members to add merit to anyone.

That's a good step to eliminate or reduce spammers from the forum, but it can open up a whole new can of worm. I fear a market for "merit" will open up soon where new accounts will buy merit points from high rank members in order to rank up. If it happens, the entire idea will fail. Any precaution has been taken for that?

Edit- I see that I have 200 sMerit points that I can donate to other members. So there is a cap and it will make merit points extremely costly in the black market. Personally, I am getting a very good feeling about this new change.

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Possibly related to my copper membership, or maybe DT?
We could figure this out, are you a source as well?
No. I do have over 200 sMerit.

I wonder if *merit trading* will be bannable. I can totally see people trying to buy/sell their sMerit.

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I've just noticed one thing. I've tested out the system and gave 5 pts to OP, then aTriz gave me 5pts and my spendable amount is at 82 now.

So does that mean that we receive 40-50% from the merit points we received to our spendable merit points? If that's so, I have a follow up question that is: What's stopping some users to make a deal and just spam each other with merit points on every other post?

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Rank system changing.. They will announce soon.

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Wow just saw the merit thingy, And then I find out this thread. It looks a good change and it can be a like a fresh air for the forum. I also liked the idea of removing junior members rank, but I can still see them using signatures, Honestly most newbies and juniors spammed alot in the forum and it looks a neat idea of removing junior rank but is not it better to remove thr signatures so that they wont participate in the signature campaigns?
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Seems to give the option to merit my own posts
strange?
If you try, you will get the following:
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I've just noticed one thing. I've tested out the system and gave 5 pts to OP, then aTriz gave me 5pts and my spendable amount is at 82 now.

So does that mean that we receive 40-50% from the merit points we received to our spendable merit points?
I sent aTriz 20 to test this, and his sMerit increased by 10.

If that's so, I have a follow up question that is: What's stopping some users to make a deal and just spam each other with merit points on every other post?
Very good question. Undecided There's this:

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You can only send 50 merit to a given user per 30 days. You have already sent 50 merit to that user.
I'm not sure how effective it is going to be though.

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I was looking for some answers on the merit functionality recently added to the forum and stumbled up on here. I have also noticed that a "+merit" button has been added which will allow other members to add merit to anyone.

That's a good step to eliminate or reduce spammers from the forum, but it can open up a whole new can or worm. I fear a market for "merit" will open up soon where new accounts will buy merit points from high rank members in order to rank up. If it happens, the entire idea will fail. Any precaution has been taken for that?

Maybe new website will pop up where it will allow others to "merit" others and get merit as a return. Yeah this market will surley be existent. Tho it's strange that I see even trusted people here who don't acctually know what is this feature for. Hopefully somebody else will explain a bit more in detail, it is good however to see that forum is trying to fight spam.
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Wait, so everyone can now rank up by getting merits? What about the old acitivity counts?


I would guess both merit points and activity are require to rank up. Let's wait until theymos posts the full information
Thanks. I see the new requirements are already posted now.

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I wonder if *merit trading* will be bannable. I can totally see people trying to buy/sell their sMerit.
But do you have this text:
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You are a merit source. The next 100 merit you spend will come from your source rather than your sMerit balance. Merit spent from your source will come back in 30 days. Unused source merit is wasted. It is not allowed for merit sources to sell their merit.

I have plenty of sMerit but it seems the first 100 merit won't come "from my source rather than my sMerit balance"

I wonder if *merit trading* will be bannable. I can totally see people trying to buy/sell their sMerit.
I'm sure that will happen and they will get negative trust if discovered

Wait, so everyone can now rank up by getting merits? What about the old acitivity counts?

I would guess both merit points and activity are require to rank up. Let's wait until theymos posts the full information

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Seems like merit function for me is just like you liked or thanked someone post. Like what OP merited

Your post is an example.

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i got 100 merit myself  ... still cant figure out whats the function and how to use it

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I'm assuming that this is yet another tactic to combat time registered and number of posts. Now, maybe merit "likes" will be taken into consideration for leveling up. This idea is genius, actually. As long as merits aren't sold...
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Will this not be abused by those who have a lot of accounts?

Or is this a good way to trace them and have an idea which are their alts?
-Prevention for many accounts in one service.

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