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March 10, 2018, 03:13:14 PM
 #3521

I think the best way to stop spamming we need to introduce the demerit system, in this forum. Unlike the Smerit system only few selected and trusted member will have this demerit power. And the other members can only report about the spam in a post where those selected member can review the post for demeriting.

And second thing is we need to stop spending merit in the service section and bounties section. As lot of merit is being gave away their for some post which does not deserve to be merited.

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March 10, 2018, 03:46:44 PM
 #3522

Almost 2 months have passed since the appearance of the merit. During this time I wrote more than 100 not the worst posts in the local section of the forum. And I did not receive a single merit. Seems that I do not understand how this works.
Hi,
I check your post history and found that most of your posts are one- or two-line threads, and most of them posted in Russian local board. I don't know Russian language, so I can't understand what you wrote. But I don't think one or two-lined threads would be useful, or helpful (in most cases they don't). You should improve your threads' quality (more lines, more useful/ helpful), more posts in Beginners & help child board and Meta board.

That is my advice for you!
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March 10, 2018, 06:18:55 PM
 #3523

I think the best way to stop spamming we need to introduce the demerit system, in this forum. Unlike the Smerit system only few selected and trusted member will have this demerit power. And the other members can only report about the spam in a post where those selected member can review the post for demeriting.

And second thing is we need to stop spending merit in the service section and bounties section. As lot of merit is being gave away their for some post which does not deserve to be merited.

Nah, in my opinion it will only create war between people who can give demerits. Merit is already good, by not getting merit, all the member who just shitposting wont level up to next rank and they will just give up later. And how to make sure they re giving up (or they can choose to improve theirself) ? One thing i can suggest for the community especially the campaign manager is to increase the requirement to be taken into a signature campaign or bounty campaign, because even myself cant deny that getting money from posting is kinda great and can be done as an extra profittable sidejob.
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March 10, 2018, 07:07:29 PM
 #3524

Almost 2 months have passed since the appearance of the merit. During this time I wrote more than 100 not the worst posts in the local section of the forum. And I did not receive a single merit. Seems that I do not understand how this works.

Yup, you don't understand. Spend some time reading the thousands of posts about it and you might have a chance of understanding. In general, just try to read and understand more, then you might have something to say that someone with merit to give thinks is worth merit.

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March 10, 2018, 10:02:22 PM
Last edit: March 10, 2018, 10:16:42 PM by coinlocket$
 #3525

Almost 2 months have passed since the appearance of the merit. During this time I wrote more than 100 not the worst posts in the local section of the forum. And I did not receive a single merit. Seems that I do not understand how this works.

Maybe you do the right job(quality-helpfull posts), but you need two more impontart factors on you side

1- someone read you
2- the one who read you press the magic botton

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March 10, 2018, 10:58:52 PM
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Almost 2 months have passed since the appearance of the merit. During this time I wrote more than 100 not the worst posts in the local section of the forum. And I did not receive a single merit. Seems that I do not understand how this works.

After writing more than a 100 normal contributive posts without getting merits you are actually beginning to understand how this system works; it doesn't. That is; it only works for those who are arrived. They now don't need to abuse the trust system to keep their rising competitors down.
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March 10, 2018, 11:41:45 PM
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Fuck it. why not just buy merits. I mean if account sales are allowed, so should merit sales. For real, if Theymos can charge for being able to make more posts as newbie by buying a copper membership, why don't he just sale merit rank ups. Oh but it could never come to that could it? Before the Copper membership came around, that wasn't possible either was it? I don't know when he implemented buying whitelist, but that probably could have never happened either though before it did.

SELL MERIT RANK UP'S THEYMOS

Real Talk, I'd be interested in buying because I won't be able to. Yeah my posts aren't that great, I know that. But look through my history, I rarely do anything else but sell misc. digital items.


EDIT

Merit me for this so once he does do this, I won't have to buy them  Grin
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March 11, 2018, 12:34:51 AM
 #3528

https://web.archive.org/web/20180311002810/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg32023727#msg32023727
Fuck it. why not just buy merits. I mean if account sales are allowed, so should merit sales. For real, if Theymos can charge for being able to make more posts as newbie by buying a copper membership, why don't he just sale merit rank ups. Oh but it could never come to that could it? Before the Copper membership came around, that wasn't possible either was it? I don't know when he implemented buying whitelist, but that probably could have never happened either though before it did.

SELL MERIT RANK UP'S THEYMOS

Real Talk, I'd be interested in buying because I won't be able to. Yeah my posts aren't that great, I know that. But look through my history, I rarely do anything else but sell misc. digital items.


EDIT

Merit me for this so once he does do this, I won't have to buy them  Grin

Congrats; I’ve been slack lately, but no longer:

Quote from: nullius
#917001 “xBoxLive” advocated buying and selling of merits, *and* simultaneously begged for merit.  FOR SHAME.  As the Latin etymology of the word implies, *merit* is to be EARNED.

This feedback is made consistently with my trust feedback policy:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3009256.0

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March 11, 2018, 12:43:31 AM
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https://web.archive.org/web/20180311002810/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg32023727#msg32023727
Fuck it. why not just buy merits. I mean if account sales are allowed, so should merit sales. For real, if Theymos can charge for being able to make more posts as newbie by buying a copper membership, why don't he just sale merit rank ups. Oh but it could never come to that could it? Before the Copper membership came around, that wasn't possible either was it? I don't know when he implemented buying whitelist, but that probably could have never happened either though before it did.

SELL MERIT RANK UP'S THEYMOS

Real Talk, I'd be interested in buying because I won't be able to. Yeah my posts aren't that great, I know that. But look through my history, I rarely do anything else but sell misc. digital items.


EDIT

Merit me for this so once he does do this, I won't have to buy them  Grin

Congrats; I’ve been slack lately, but no longer:

Quote from: nullius
#917001 “xBoxLive” advocated buying and selling of merits, *and* simultaneously begged for merit.  FOR SHAME.  As the Latin etymology of the word implies, *merit* is to be EARNED.

This feedback is made consistently with my trust feedback policy:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3009256.0


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March 11, 2018, 01:06:40 AM
Last edit: March 11, 2018, 01:22:17 AM by nullius
 #3530

https://web.archive.org/web/20180311002810/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg32023727#msg32023727
[—snip—]

Quote from: nullius
#917001 “xBoxLive” advocated buying and selling of merits, *and* simultaneously begged for merit.  FOR SHAME.  As the Latin etymology of the word implies, *merit* is to be EARNED.

This feedback is made consistently with my trust feedback policy:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3009256.0


#HIPPOCRITE COPPER MEMBER

Well, that’s amusing non sequitur.  It will probably remain all the moreso if I don’t ask you to explain the relevance of my Copper Membership.  Also amusing:

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Don't like my opinions so they left me negative feedback. But they are the one that had to buy "Whitelist" or a title. #HIPPOCRITE

You don’t realize, I collect those petty little retaliations from petty little people.  I haven’t earned one in awhile.  Thanks.

It may help your writing if you were to buy a dictionary, and learn the spelling and definition of the word “hypocrite”.  Also, if you were not stupid.  But that’s beside the point, given your reprehensible attitude.

The merit system has a dual purpose, positive and negative.  Its positive component is to reward people like me for making posts which others find valuable; the number below my name speaks for me on that point.  Its negative component is to chase snowflakes like you away from the forum, so that you don’t spoil it for others.  The system is doing its job, on both sides of the coin!



Edit to add:  *plonk*  (I believe these occasional public examples to be a social necessity; but now, there is nothing more to see here.)

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March 11, 2018, 01:13:20 AM
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https://web.archive.org/web/20180311002810/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg32023727#msg32023727
[—snip—]

Quote from: nullius
#917001 “xBoxLive” advocated buying and selling of merits, *and* simultaneously begged for merit.  FOR SHAME.  As the Latin etymology of the word implies, *merit* is to be EARNED.

This feedback is made consistently with my trust feedback policy:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3009256.0


#HIPPOCRITE COPPER MEMBER

Well, that’s amusing non sequitur.  It will probably remain all the moreso if I don’t ask you to explain the relevance of my Copper Membership.  Also amusing:

Quote from: xBoxLive
Don't like my opinions so they left me negative feedback. But they are the one that had to buy "Whitelist" or a title. #HIPPOCRITE

You don’t realize, I collect those petty little retaliations from petty little people.  I haven’t earned one in awhile.  Thanks.

It may help your writing if you were to buy a dictionary, and learn to spell the word “hypocrite”.  Also, if you were not stupid.  But that’s beside the point, given your reprehensible attitude.

The merit system has a dual purpose, positive and negative.  Its positive component is to reward people like me for making posts which others find valuable; the number below my name speaks for me on that point.  Its negative component is to chase snowflakes like you away from the forum, so that you don’t spoil it for others.  The system is doing its job, on both sides of the coin!



Edit to add:  *plonk*  (I believe these occasional public examples to be a social necessity; but now, there is nothing more to see here.)

You must be in the running for petty president eh as you so eloquently hypo-preached huh? But like assholes, everyone has one. I'll take your "Petty" neg and smile "Hippocrite"


And for the numbers below your name, all that does is show how much free time you have. #getajob or #Graduate

Don't know you to know which. But I'm sure you'll say whichever you feel like makes you matter in this world.
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March 11, 2018, 04:14:41 AM
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in a lot of other forums (cars, electronics, sports) they sometimes call this +rep(utation), almost everyone (except brand new accounts) can +rep/"merit" any post, but it is not like a Unit where i have 4 sMerits to give and that is it until some one merits you. You have unlimited +reps but you can only give them 1 at a time (someone has a good post, you can give 1 +rep, s/he posts again you can give again 1+rep). Whereas here i can give all my sMerits to one person and then not have any for ages until someone decides to merit me.

IMO we should have something more similar to that (or a combination of some sort), having given out all of my 4 sMerits early on when they first launched, I have not been able to merit posts that perhaps deserved a merit since then. IMO the sMerit barrier is too high for newer of forum members. just my 2 cents  Roll Eyes

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March 11, 2018, 04:53:42 AM
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in a lot of other forums (cars, electronics, sports) they sometimes call this +rep(utation), almost everyone (except brand new accounts) can +rep/"merit" any post, but it is not like a Unit where i have 4 sMerits to give and that is it until some one merits you. You have unlimited +reps but you can only give them 1 at a time (someone has a good post, you can give 1 +rep, s/he posts again you can give again 1+rep). Whereas here i can give all my sMerits to one person and then not have any for ages until someone decides to merit me.

That system will be easily abused especially by account farmers who had hundreds of account. The reason why theymos choose to limit sMerit and carefully selecting some members as merit sources are to prevent such abuse. It successfully halts the account farmers but also creates a new problem: other genuine members having a hard time to rank up. I agree with your opinion, the merit in circulation right now is simply not enough in my opinion.

 
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March 11, 2018, 04:57:25 AM
 #3534

in a lot of other forums (cars, electronics, sports) they sometimes call this +rep(utation), almost everyone (except brand new accounts) can +rep/"merit" any post, but it is not like a Unit where i have 4 sMerits to give and that is it until some one merits you. You have unlimited +reps but you can only give them 1 at a time (someone has a good post, you can give 1 +rep, s/he posts again you can give again 1+rep). Whereas here i can give all my sMerits to one person and then not have any for ages until someone decides to merit me.

That system will be easily abused especially by account farmers who had hundreds of account. The reason why theymos choose to limit sMerit and carefully selecting some members as merit sources are to prevent such abuse. It successfully halts the account farmers but also creates a new problem: other genuine members having a hard time to rank up. I agree with your opinion, the merit in circulation right now is simply not enough in my opinion.

sMerit availability has been increased by ~50% to 17650 per month. Was ~12k previously.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources

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March 11, 2018, 05:44:27 AM
 #3535

I can not find the answer to the most probably common question. Are smerits regenerated? I was very generous and distributed more than half of the merits, but how can I resume the number of smerits? for what merit are they renewed?
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March 11, 2018, 06:26:17 AM
 #3536

I can not find the answer to the most probably common question. Are smerits regenerated? I was very generous and distributed more than half of the merits, but how can I resume the number of smerits? for what merit are they renewed?

sMerits are not replenished unless you are a merit source.

If you will be wondering how will you get another sMerit to give then you must make posts that is worthy of merit, for every 2 merits you receive you will be getting 1 smerit. For members that is the only way you can get merit but if you want more, you can always apply for becoming a merit source.

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March 11, 2018, 06:32:05 AM
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I do not speak English well, but reading this thread I understand that the theymos did it right and whoever does not say it is the owner of the resource and dictates the rules if someone does not like the rules of the site, nobody keeps it there. those who remain on the site accept new rules and try to match them, but maybe newcomers (or those who are forced to develop their own account on a new basis) will not be able to rank higher, and what prevents you from striving for this, make quality records.
I honestly do not care about the merit system, I do not participate in ICO, I read the branches about the software for mining, because I myself have a bullet on the pool, and I keep my hand on the pulse. you can always learn something new, and then after some time later tell the newcomer about it.
when I came here as a novice, I knew nothing but nicehash, and now I work in the powershell and ruler as I need, I myself do executable files, and let me not be young already, but while I'm interested in this topic, I will study reading and mastering new items. Thanks to everyone who gives the right information
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March 11, 2018, 01:22:12 PM
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Every people who only cares about rank probably joined the forum just to make money, because all they care the most is ranking up, that is the main and basic reason why they didnt get the merit normally, because they feel this system is too heavy thus render them too lazy to study and increase their quality.

Guess what? If you are newbie, you only need to score 1 merit daily to rank up normally. It is hard but not an impossible task in my opinion.


You must be in the running for petty president eh as you so eloquently hypo-preached huh? But like assholes, everyone has one. I'll take your "Petty" neg and smile "Hippocrite"


And for the numbers below your name, all that does is show how much free time you have. #getajob or #Graduate

Don't know you to know which. But I'm sure you'll say whichever you feel like makes you matter in this world.


Then why dont you follow his step and give more time to get those merits?

All you do is whining, only gives a little of your time and you want to get a lot of merits? Dont be a hypocrite. If you do the hard work you will get the results. It applies in every world, real world or internet world.
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March 11, 2018, 05:40:34 PM
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I`m looking at this post it`s really amazing but i`m confused regarding the merit given for comments . It`s unfair what someone is writng a interesting post and is not receiving at least 1 merit and someone is writing a comment and receives 100 merit . This system is not working properly at all . Who is in charge regarding merit Huh I just what to share one of my post where i think i deserve at least 1 merit point .

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3103449.msg32045858#msg32045858

Very nice post i will repeat one more time but the system is not working properly Sad
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March 11, 2018, 05:46:42 PM
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Every people who only cares about rank probably joined the forum just to make money, because all they care the most is ranking up, that is the main and basic reason why they didnt get the merit normally, because they feel this system is too heavy thus render them too lazy to study and increase their quality.

Guess what? If you are newbie, you only need to score 1 merit daily to rank up normally. It is hard but not an impossible task in my opinion.


You must be in the running for petty president eh as you so eloquently hypo-preached huh? But like assholes, everyone has one. I'll take your "Petty" neg and smile "Hippocrite"


And for the numbers below your name, all that does is show how much free time you have. #getajob or #Graduate

Don't know you to know which. But I'm sure you'll say whichever you feel like makes you matter in this world.


Then why dont you follow his step and give more time to get those merits?

All you do is whining, only gives a little of your time and you want to get a lot of merits? Dont be a hypocrite. If you do the hard work you will get the results. It applies in every world, real world or internet world.

I personally don't have the time to live on Bitcointalk.org. I work 50+ hours a week and login to bitcointalk.org about twice a day to sale misc goods. Now is this fair to me, or others like me, that we can't rank up because of this? Again, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. And I'm fairly sure you know mine. Point is, if Theymos can sell whitelist to be able to post more on Bitcointalk, then selling Merit Rank-ups should be no different.
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