Merit & new rank requirements

[Upgrade00]

Getting the 1st merit is like getting first $1 Million.

From my observation, it's not really that hard to get your first merit and it does not always get easier from then on. Some members are lenient to newbies and would merit them for effort, even if they were wrong or it was just an inquiry. If a new member is posting useful content and not just spamming the forum, they would eventually get noticed.

As you rank up, so does the standard other members hold you to, so it could become harder to get merits if you do not equally improve your knowledge on topics you discuss about. Some members also simply target a particular rank and stop putting effort into their posts from then on.

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[bakasabo]

From my observation, it's not really that hard to get your first merit

I agree. If you know "forums kitchen" or had spend here some time before merit system appeared, then getting one or first merit is not that hard. Getting first merit is more unexpected than complicated. I cant even remember how I got my first, but I'm sure I want searching for it and did nothing on purpose to get merit. They just came suddenly.

I dont remember who said it, but I liked the idea behind that phrase - "the more you want to get merit, the far away it is". Dont rush to get them, be yourself and your merit will find you.

[adamvp]

Exactly, just try to make good quality posts, better post less but higher quality than more but lower quality.
However, I know it is hard when you spend a lot of effort to create good post, and nobody appreciates it.

[TirariAchref]

i know that i'm new member here but from my observation, It's not that hard to get a merit from a post.

You just need to write a good quality one and people will see what you want to say and get credit from it.

However, It's not that hard you just need to work and enjoying it like i do 

[Rehan Zakir]

Exactly, just try to make good quality posts, better post less but higher quality than more but lower quality.
However, I know it is hard when you spend a lot of effort to create good post, and nobody appreciates it.

You are saying right mate! It hurts when you are making good posts but no one appreciates you. But man must not give up and keep trying. So, we have to keep posting good posts. One day we will succeed.
It is difficult to achieve new ranks but it is not impossible. Success takes time and efforts.

[HOT_HEAD]

Love it how admin says "Do not beg for merit excessively.". So it's ok to beg for it from time to time? hahaha

[Upgrade00]

Love it how admin says "Do not beg for merit excessively.". So it's ok to beg for it from time to time? hahaha

Not really, as you'll be violating the forum rule of no begging whatsoever;

7. No begging.

[HOT_HEAD]

Love it how admin says "Do not beg for merit excessively.". So it's ok to beg for it from time to time? hahaha

Not really, as you'll be violating the forum rule of no begging whatsoever;

7. No begging.

I know, my dude, that "hahaha" at the end was an implication of a joke. :d

[LoyceV]

Love it how admin says "Do not beg for merit excessively.". So it's ok to beg for it from time to time? hahaha

Not really, as you'll be violating the forum rule of no begging whatsoever;

7. No begging.

The "no begging" rule is for "please send me Bitcoin" posts. My interpretation of theymos' post is that it's okay to ask to review certain (good) posts to be Merited. I encourage this in Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source.

[iyayow]

In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks. The required scores are:

Rank	Required activity	Required merit
Brand new	0	0
Newbie	1	0
Jr Member	30	1
Member	60	10
Full Member	120	100
Sr. Member	240	250
Hero Member	480	500
Legendary	Random in the range 775-1030	1000

You get merit points when someone sends you some for one of your posts. Additionally, when someone sends you merit points, half of those points can be sent by you to other people.

Certain users are designated as "merit sources". They can create new merit out of nothing, up to a limited number per month (which differs per source). I will not be posting a definitive list of merit sources (so that people don't bug them too much), though you'll soon figure out who they are if you pay attention.

There is currently no such thing as a "demerit". I'm hoping that the positive merits alone will be fine. I could add demerits pretty easily later on if necessary, though.

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

Do not beg for merit excessively.

Useful infographics

Forum users have helpfully created some infographics to explain the merit system:
paxmao's infographic
ibminer's infographic
8Habits's infographic
JetSet11's infographic
zentdex's infographic
alia_armelle's infographic

If you want to be a merit source:

 1. Be a somewhat established member.
 2. Collect TEN posts written in the last couple of months by other people that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread. The point of this is to demonstrate your ability to give out merit usefully.
 3. We will take a look at your history and maybe make you a source.

I am especially eager to have merit sources in sub-communities such as the local sections.

Trivia:

For current members, your initial merit score is equal to the minimum required to your rank. Of that, a certain amount (less than the usual half) is spendable. The spendable amount was calculated based on your current rank and the number of activity points you earned in the last year. A Legendary member who hasn't posted in the last year would still be Legendary, but would not have any spendable merit.

If someone sends you 1 merit, the 0.5 sMerit is not wasted; it is just not shown until you get another merit point.

There are stats here, and you can find someone's merit summary by clicking the "merit" link on their profile.

Does this still working? Seems like even posting quality posts, you still will not get merits

[LoyceV]

Does this still working?

The Merit system works fine. The fact that you didn't earn any Merit proves it

Seems like even posting quality posts, you still will not get merits

I wonder why.

[FIFA worldcup]

getting a +1 merit here is harder than winning the nobel prize xD

Earning merit is very simple if only you follow the rules and regulations, there are many new users who gain merits over here in the forum so you can still try your best to post and gain it for free.

Exactly, earning a single merit is not a big deal for anyone who has the ability to read and write.

If anyone don't have read and writing skills, what's he is doing on the forum 

[Timelord2067]

getting a +1 merit here is harder than winning the nobel prize xD

Earning merit is very simple if only you follow the rules and regulations, there are many new users who gain merits over here in the forum so you can still try your best to post and gain it for free.

...and yet at this point in time, you have exactly four merits after twelve hundred and eighty-eight posts.


People earn merits not by following and "rules" nore "regulations", rather, simply from posting honestly and with conviction on just about any topic here in the Forum.  Try it sometime.

[LoyceV]

getting a +1 merit here is harder than winning the nobel prize xD

Earning merit is very simple if only you follow the rules and regulations, there are many new users who gain merits over here in the forum so you can still try your best to post and gain it for free.

...and yet at this point in time, you have exactly four merits after twelve hundred and eighty-eight posts.

It looks like someone hopes to earn Merit with his generic post in Meta. I was just checking his history:

Merit received by KryptoKings from January 24, 2018 until June 18, 2021 (source)

     3. Sun Apr  4 13:53:57 2021: 2 (4) from bitmover (Trust list) (history) for If crypto is banned in my country
     2. Mon Feb  8 22:29:37 2021: 1 (2) from blackened515 (Trust list) (history) for Re: India Banning Cryptos
     1. Sun Feb  7 21:50:58 2021: 1 (1) from igehhh (Trust list) (history) for Comparing different blockchain platforms

Please don't advice people on how to earn Merit!

User KryptoKings (full history)

• Received a total of 4 Merit up to last Friday.
• Received 0 Merit for 0 of 788 posts created before the introduction of Merit.
• Received 4 Merit (100.00%) for 3 (0.60%) of 500 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.0080 Merit per new post).
• Received 0 Merit for posts that are now deleted (or off-limit (Staff/VIP Section)).

It's quite simple: if you use the forum as a forum instead of an ATM, you can stop creating useless posts so your Merit-to-post ratio will improve.
Here's yours:

[lovesmayfamilis]

Please don't advice people on how to earn Merit!

He probably shouldn't warn people about the dangers of plagiarism, either.    
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg57324317#msg57324317

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Exactly, earning a single merit is not a big deal for anyone who has the ability to read and write.

Hate to say it, but I disagree to an extent.  I've noticed that established members tend to earn more merits than members with no reputation whatsoever--and you could argue that more senior members tend to make better posts, but I don't think that explains it all.  Newcomers have to work probably 1.5x as hard as Legendaries or Hero members to earn merits (at least I'd estimate it to be that much extra effort).

And the fact is that there's a finite amount of merit floating around at any given moment, and add to that the fact that there are people who don't give out merits for whatever reason, and the fact that there are so many active members, and you get the result that it's pretty damn hard for lower-ranked members to earn enough merits to rank up.  I don't know where that thread is that listed how many members had ranked up for a given week, but the last time I looked at it, there weren't many members at all moving from Sr. Member-->Hero and Hero-->Legendary, not to mention that going from Jr. Member to Member isn't easy either.

So it's very easy to say "just make good posts and you'll earn merits" but that's just not the case.  You have to do that, of course, but there are many other factors involved.

He probably shouldn't warn people about the dangers of plagiarism, either.   
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg57324317#msg57324317

Big LOL.

[BlackHatCoiner]

The Merit system works fine. The fact that you didn't earn any Merit proves it

Harsh, but I like it.

I've noticed that established members tend to earn more merits than members with no reputation whatsoever--

Exactly. Although, there are some exceptions in the development board where some experts who don't hang out to bitcointalk very often, have similar amount of posts and merits.

It's quite simple: if you use the forum as a forum instead of an ATM, you can stop creating useless posts so your Merit-to-post ratio will improve.

We should do that! Is there any BPIP page that shows a merit-to-post ratio? Not just the average merit you get on each post; it'd be too simple. I'd like to see something more complicated. A person having 1000 posts and 100 merits shouldn't be shitpostingly equal with 10 posts and 1 merit. 


I've exaggerated with the abbr tag, haven't I? 

[ferrisbullish]

Does this still working?

The Merit system works fine. The fact that you didn't earn any Merit proves it

Seems like even posting quality posts, you still will not get merits

I wonder why.

so do we earn by humiliating people?

[The Sceptical Chymist]

so do we earn by humiliating people?

Why did you bump this thread with a shitpost?  

And did you not notice that the post LoyceV quoted resulted in that member getting banned for plagiarism?  

Maybe you should read the rules and get a feel for the forum before criticizing it.  Or keep on as you are, posting in the altcoin section, where I'll never see anything you write.

[ferrisbullish]

so do we earn by humiliating people?

Why did you bump this thread with a shitpost?  

And did you not notice that the post LoyceV quoted resulted in that member getting banned for plagiarism?  

Maybe you should read the rules and get a feel for the forum before criticizing it.  Or keep on as you are, posting in the altcoin section, where I'll never see anything you write.

should I look for another post with humiliations to ask in an appropriate place? btw why maxis are so stupid? These guys you humiliate don't even speak english well and you seem to have fun doing it. I know the system, a small club of people who considers themselves very special. I asked to see if you guys realize what's wrong here.