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January 25, 2018, 11:14:33 AM
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I think the new system of merit is fine, i like it. on the other hand I was very close to Hero's rank, now I'm screwed  Cry

Same here buddy, I missed out the Senior Member rank with only 2 Activitypoints and 6 days, now it seems to be far away. It is a pity that Merit is not related to the previous earned Activity points for existing users, so I got the same like a fresh ranked up Full Member.

Although I like the new system.


I think that it would be a decent proposal to make to Theymos, if he could figure out a way to give pro-rata merit credit to members who are not at the very beginning of their rank.  I know that it might be a lot of work, but it might also be the more fair thing to do, if there is a way to reasonably accomplish such.

maybe every two weeks along with 14 max activity you could get a certain number of merits as well

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January 25, 2018, 11:15:19 AM
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I think only time will tell if Merit is really a positive addition to the forum. It all depends on how the Users will spend Merit. Will they really spend it on valuable posts or do they give it to people the know/like? So the community is responsible to use Merit as it should be.

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January 25, 2018, 11:15:49 AM
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I see people can get a negative Merit Points too. Do you actually rank down if fall under the rank limit? This can be speculative option if it gets into bad hands.
But the idea is really good, well I was really close to Full member now I have a longer way to go, but no worries, I think I can contribute to the community, already got 7 Merit points and this is awesome Smiley

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January 25, 2018, 11:17:36 AM
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I see people can get a negative Merit Points too. Do you actually rank down if fall under the rank limit?
They can't. This was a bug that was quickly fixed and those ratings/scores were removed.

I think we should have the ability to unmerit a post
If a post is worth negative Merit, you can simply click "Report to moderator" on the right-bottom of each post.
I think unmerit as in remove a given merit.
Merits are permanent, and I think that's good. It gives the merit you reward someone a certain finality.
You can't flip forward and backwards with it, you make this decision, and you stick with it. It gives the act of rewarding merit a certain gravity.


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January 25, 2018, 11:21:15 AM
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If a post is worth negative Merit, you can simply click "Report to moderator" on the right-bottom of each post.

This is a good thought.  Shocked

I can see people are asking so many questions about this. I do have a lot of questions as well but I guess applying something new takes time to see the impact and we need to give this new feature a bit time.

They brought this idea because they have a positive feeling for this. This will work out good for sure.


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January 25, 2018, 11:21:20 AM
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where to check how much sMerit I still have?
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January 25, 2018, 11:22:27 AM
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where to check how much sMerit I still have?

Just click on the "+ Merit" link (top right of each post)
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January 25, 2018, 11:23:45 AM
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Is there a probability that someone could get a punishment for giving a merit to a post that does not deserve one? What about people contacting each other privately and agreeing to continue giving merits to each other,even if their post do not deserve one, how will that be detected? Wont it be very difficult for people with lower rank on the forum to get merits as compared to those with higher ranks,because generally,it is considered that the higher your rank,the more you make sense in your post.People may therefore feel reluctant to give merits to deserving post,simple because they are from lower ranked accounts.
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January 25, 2018, 11:24:03 AM
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Merits are permanent, and I think that's good. It gives the merit you reward someone a certain finality.
You can't flip forward and backwards with it, you make this decision, and you stick with it. It gives the act of rewarding merit a certain gravity.
I'm not so sure. If someone, for example, sells their account and the post quality drops dramatically, I think it would make sense to be able to remove the merit given to the account previously.



where to check how much sMerit I still have?
You can find that on the Merit page.
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January 25, 2018, 11:26:56 AM
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This should have a system where sMerit goes to people who use them as well.

If as stated they will deplete them self if not spent and nobody give them away we would reach a stall situation where nobody has sMerit anymore, so growth become very hard?

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January 25, 2018, 11:28:34 AM
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I totally agree with this new system, because with this we can force someone who can only copy posts to change their mind, and this will make the participant with a fake account may be a bit on tap, but I'm still confused, how do I get this merit , whereas I live a little longer to senior member, I have to say what to get this merit? at least I've not made a shit post, if someone who never made a shit post but never gets up in rank due to lack of merit, it's like discrimination against someone
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January 25, 2018, 11:36:02 AM
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It is probably too early to judge the new system. Just a few thoughts. It may reduce the number of meaningless posts and account farming, but after some reading I feel it is essentially rank freezing, at least for members and above. sMerits are incredibly scarce and upranking even from member to full member is going to be a very rare occurrence. I can feel the frustration of those who were just a few activity points from full, senior or hero. Well, I suppose I just have to accept that I'm stuck at the full member level forever...
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January 25, 2018, 11:37:27 AM
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  • A select few authoritarian figures can create more of it out of thin air.
  • It will lose its value if not spent quickly enough.
  • The majority of it is owned by the rich.
  • Its economy is based on a trickle-down effect.
  • You can spend only 50% of what you receive of it.

Which currency am I talking about?
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January 25, 2018, 11:39:08 AM
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I totally agree with this new system, because with this we can force someone who can only copy posts to change their mind, and this will make the participant with a fake account may be a bit on tap, but I'm still confused, how do I get this merit , whereas I live a little longer to senior member, I have to say what to get this merit? at least I've not made a shit post, if someone who never made a shit post but never gets up in rank due to lack of merit, it's like discrimination against someone


I guess it will be hard to collect merit points even if we make a great post, but it is not impossible thing to do.

Maybe we need to send some merit points and see how it goes back to us from another member.
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January 25, 2018, 11:39:22 AM
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I can feel the frustration of those who were just a few activity points from full, senior or hero.
No love for us frustrated almost legendary members?  Cry


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January 25, 2018, 11:41:14 AM
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Just a joke (by no way serious joking). This is the best thing I receive as an early Bitcointalker.

Anyway, when I first scanned through this topic, I thought I am going to lose all my progress and "hard work" - okay, maybe 'medium' quality posts since 90% of the time I am tagged with signature campaign - to this system. I immediately check my profile and was relived when I saw that I have 1000 merit.

Guess why I don't want to lose my legendary status? Well, because I have plan to put this on my CV/resume. (Alright, just a joke, in today era).

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January 25, 2018, 11:41:48 AM
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I always tried to write messages on the merits. Very disappointing not to get the next rank. I had less than a week to go to the Full Member.
It would be fair to introduce new rules after January 30.
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January 25, 2018, 11:42:04 AM
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I can feel the frustration of those who were just a few activity points from full, senior or hero.
No love for us frustrated almost legendary members?  Cry

With your big name, posts you've made, and time you have spent on this forum, I guess 50 merit points isn't that far. It will be quicker than a blink of an eye  Cool
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January 25, 2018, 11:44:03 AM
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Which currency am I talking about?
Merit isn't a currency, and has nothing to do with a currency.



It would be fair to introduce new rules after January 30.
But then what about the other people that are one week away from achieving the next rank? It'd be unfair to them to change it on Jan 30th, so it should be pushed back. But then what about the people that are now one period away from ranking up?
Do you see where I'm going with this?
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January 25, 2018, 11:45:12 AM
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I totally agree with this new system, because with this we can force someone who can only copy posts to change their mind, and this will make the participant with a fake account may be a bit on tap, but I'm still confused, how do I get this merit , whereas I live a little longer to senior member, I have to say what to get this merit? at least I've not made a shit post, if someone who never made a shit post but never gets up in rank due to lack of merit, it's like discrimination against someone

so sad for you that you missed 2 activity before ranking up to sr member. now you need to earn 150 more merits to rank up just like fresh full member.



anyway, As a bounty hunters, I also agree with this system. atleast now farm account will take a hard time to rank up. less high rank member = more stakes on bounty

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