Merit & new rank requirements

[lobcmt2]

I like this new ranking requirement.  It helps cleans up the forum.  I think many people will be stuck at Full Member rank permanently due to this change. 

You like it, partially because you have already been a legendary member. I agree that the forum should be cleaned up, but by using the merit system it is not a good option. There are lots of setbacks inside the current merit system.

Good posts might not be given a merit, instead average- or low-qualitied posts might receive merits. It is because that one is game of chance, game of luck, game of randomness. Your efforts need to have luckiness, chances, randomness from others to get merits. That's sound a little bit crazy.

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[reme.auditor]

I tried posting my stance on Merit, but unfortunately it may be spammy since it was deleted twice. It struck hard to realize that even when you are really trying hard to give quality post it will still be deleted and not appreciated. I believe somehow that the merit system will be controlled by those who are already in the position and newbies like me are not in any position to give our opinion. I somehow feel oppressed but it may just be me. My stance earlier was on a positive side but the experience did give me something to think over.

[Panzersin]

I like this new ranking requirement.  It helps cleans up the forum.  I think many people will be stuck at Full Member rank permanently due to this change.  

it is good , but it sucks for Full Members like me who are so close to Senior Member and dont just post junk... but oh well i guess its best for the community, just wondering how long it will take to get 250 merit when ill probably get 1 merit point for like 10 good replies of help......

I never thought you would earned any merit for your posts (i don't see any reason for that).
Your merit point atm is 112. It means that's 138 left for you and you must make around 1380 quality posts before you ranked up to Sr.member (assuming you'd earned 1 merit for 10 contructive posts)
 Goodluck

I somewhat fear, that this will result in buying/selling merit points....

That thing what you worried already happened
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2823221.0

[thaayb]

I somewhat fear, that this will result in buying/selling merit points....

That thing what you worried already happened
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2823221.0

lol, within one fucking day, but yeah that was predictable.

Also if someone has multiple accounts, he may somewhat increase his points by sending them back and forth.
I know this is limited, but still possible.

[Panzersin]

Also if someone has multiple accounts, he may somewhat increase his points by sending them back and forth.
I know this is limited, but still possible.

This guy tested it yesterday
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg28867557#msg28867557

[Mr.Spider703]

it seems to me that those who have a minus in the level of trust now actively begin to sell their services, and those who really deserve it and will remain aloof and without rewards
I'm sorry this forum

[askmecrypto]

I like this new ranking requirement.  It helps cleans up the forum.  I think many people will be stuck at Full Member rank permanently due to this change. 

This is so true!!
Should I be worried.. lol .. 

I love the idea, apart from the point that people who are really close to their next rank now need to earn a lot of merit before doing so. This makes the person "A New Full Member" equal to "A Full Member who was about to become Sr. Member in a week or two", but again, since we still have the activity combination along with merit system, it will become fair in sometime.
Cheers!

[thaayb]

Also if someone has multiple accounts, he may somewhat increase his points by sending them back and forth.
I know this is limited, but still possible.

This guy tested it yesterday
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg28867557#msg28867557

This is actually the biggest problem with this system. Why should users reward someone else if they could give at least  sum(1/(4x)) points to themself, using only one alt account. Yeah people are greedy you know....

This is why I am for a system the other way round using a spam score (Like I mentioned here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2640096.msg27357532#msg27357532). I gues this would have some drawbacks too, though.

[Mr.Spider703]

I would suggest that all accounts be reset to the status of a beginner, leave only admins, and those who are really worthy of receiving rewards quickly become moderators or legendary

[superjeyy]

Also if someone has multiple accounts, he may somewhat increase his points by sending them back and forth.
I know this is limited, but still possible.

This guy tested it yesterday
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg28867557#msg28867557

I know this might have been asked several times, but how can this be prevented? Knowing how important the merits would be when ranking up, people might be encouraged to abuse sending merits through their other accounts or even  make alt accounts just to get merits. It would be hard to keep track of this since you have to dig deep to prove that what they're doing is breaking forum rules.

[baileym]

This makes it harder to rank up especially for a newbie acct like mine.  I am not opposed to this it Looks like a pretty good system if your work your way up through it.   The only thing I don't like is those with the current higher ranking were automatically given the merit.  Most of those deserve it but I have seen more than a few who do not...  So is the merit ranking not false to start with as those people really didn't earn that merit?   Why not start everyone off on the same merit level and let that be another indicator that we the users can look at and help us decide whether there posts are likely accurate or not?  or trustworthy and relevant?

If I look at someone's merit I will never know if they actually earned it or not.  So this does not help me at all as an indicator now that the merit was just given out.   I could say if this person joined after the merit system was put into place this would be a good indicator but anyone who joined before this it has zero reference.  So now we have to look up the date a member has joined to verify whether merit matters or not?  Seems like this needs to be thought out a little more.  

The post says merit should be given only if earned.  But it was given based on membership status not earned.

Like I said above I suggest starting everyone off with the same merit and let the users decide who the merit should go to based on the factors you listed.   I'm good with keeping this part of the system to level up.  Would have to keep everyone's current rank as we would not want to take a hero or legendary back to a member account.

[Juggy777]

Anyone struggling at Sr Member Almost close to becoming a hero member and yet not getting merit? Dam if daily life struggle wasn't enough, this is actually tougher than it seems😂

[rattle99]

Anyone struggling at Sr Member Almost close to becoming a hero member and yet not getting merit? Dam if daily life struggle wasn't enough, this is actually tougher than it seems😂

I'm in a similar situation mate 

[vanobe]

Also if someone has multiple accounts, he may somewhat increase his points by sending them back and forth.
I know this is limited, but still possible.

This guy tested it yesterday
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg28867557#msg28867557

I know this might have been asked several times, but how can this be prevented? Knowing how important the merits would be when ranking up, people might be encouraged to abuse sending merits through their other accounts or even  make alt accounts just to get merits. It would be hard to keep track of this since you have to dig deep to prove that what they're doing is breaking forum rules.

At the moment it's simple to check the top-merited users of all-time, or the recent top-merited users using these tools theymos provided. There aren't many accounts sent high amounts of merit yet.

• Recent merits
• Top-merited recent topics
• Top-merited topics, all-time
• Top-merited recent replies
• Top-merited replies, all-time
• Top-merited users, recent merit
• Top-merited users, all-time
• Most generous recent merit senders
• Most generous merit senders, all time

[katinko]

Anyone struggling at Sr Member Almost close to becoming a hero member and yet not getting merit? Dam if daily life struggle wasn't enough, this is actually tougher than it seems😂

I am too far to become sr. member but i feel you mate, this new feature will gives you delay to rank up if you did not meet the merit requirements for hero member but mate don't lose hope this would be a big challenge to all of us to make much constructive post and make us more value member of this forum.
And accept this challenge with all your heart and make merit is your inspiration for your every post.

[Kencha77]

Is the first post already updated with the new questions, problems and suggestions about the new system? I found many questions that needed to be answered.

[asapjoshyy]

Is the first post already updated with the new questions, problems and suggestions about the new system? I found many questions that needed to be answered.

what you need to know, i can help ya out... for some merit hahahha
 but actually illl help ya out, DM me

[Kencha77]

Is the first post already updated with the new questions, problems and suggestions about the new system? I found many questions that needed to be answered.

what you need to know, i can help ya out... for some merit hahahha
 but actually illl help ya out, DM me

There are many actually and one of which is about the penalty in selling merits. I guess i'll just have to follow theymos posts for this. Thanks for the thought though

[asapjoshyy]

Is the first post already updated with the new questions, problems and suggestions about the new system? I found many questions that needed to be answered.

what you need to know, i can help ya out... for some merit hahahha
 but actually illl help ya out, DM me

There are many actually and one of which is about the penalty in selling merits. I guess i'll just have to follow theymos posts for this. Thanks for the thought though

if you actually have questions on a serious note ill help you out, i was all over the thread last night to figure out the rules and i think i got a fair understanding .... shoot me a pm if you actually wanna know whatsup , i can explain it fairly fast
cheers

[hashcoinusa]

Merit based ranking is always advisable instead of just how long someone spend time on forum; but the way merit based points will be issued  is important.  Their has to be governance and moderator who acts as a part of governance team has to be interacting with all forum member.   Thanks Team.