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Help me make it more informative and attractive. I'll spend 25 Merit points(One Time) + some cash reward(Every Friday) - Spreadsheet.

I'm going to pick each and every answer about merit point and list them here. You can help me by posting Question with there right solution and I try to list them here as soon as possible.

Q: What is Merit point and why we need it?
A: In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks.

Q: Difference between Merit and sMerit?
A: You have Merits, those you cannot send.
You also have sMerits, those you can only send, they have no other purpose.

Q: How can I earn Merit points?
A: You have to make some high quality posts to get Merit points.
While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with

Q: I have 100 merits for now. Can anyone reduce it ?
A: For now, no one can demerit you and thus you will have at least 100 for sure.

Q: How can I earn sMerit points?
A: For Every Merit point you receive you get a .5 sMerit(Spendable Merit Point).

Q: The sMerit we have at the beginning won't regenerate after it is over?
A: Yes, that is your free pack of sMerit, use them wisely.

Q: Do sMerits decay ?
A: Not for now, but if people start to hoard, it would be implemented.

Q: How many merit point I can send to a single person?
A: You can only give 50 merit to a user in a 30 day window.

Q: Will deleting my post with merit points will also lead to the deletion of all the merit points?
A: No, The merit is not undone if the post is deleted.

Q: How many merit sources are there?
A: There are about 49 right now. Check here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=sources

Q: Where I can find the list of Merit Sources?
A: List is not publicly available, not it will in future so that people don't bug them too much.

Q: How merit points will be distributed to sources every month and in what ratio?
A: Each source has a different limit per 30 days. The current average is 202.5(approx), and in total up to 9925 sMerit could be created per month.

Q: How to become Merit source(if possible)?
A:    1. Be a somewhat established member.
        2. Collect TEN posts written in the last couple of months that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread.
        3. We will take a look at your history and maybe make you a source.

Q:  Are there any merit sources in the local thread?
A: Yes

Q: How many spendable merits are given by default to different rank levels ?
A:  The spendable amount was calculated based on your current rank and the number of activity points you earned in the last year.

Q: There is something unusual with my merit points?
A: It might take up to 24 hours for the cache to clear.

Q: Why can't I find the "+Merit" button to rate a post?
A: You can only see the button when you have sMerit to give away(After receiving your first sMerit point, the button will be visible.). It is on the right besides the quote button, but hidden when you have 0 sMerit.

Q: What is the role of this Merit Point System?
A: Ranking system no more relies only on activity period and activity points with exceptions. Instead it relies on both activity points as well as Merit Points.

Q: What will be the benefit of Merit Point System?
A: Merit Point System help to stop excessive spam and account farming.

Q: How I get ranked up now, what is the new in it?
A: Now onward you must have some required minimum Merit points in order to reach another rank.
RankRequired activityRequired merit
Brand new00
Newbie10
Jr Member300
Member6010
Full Member120100
Sr. Member240250
Hero Member480500
LegendaryRandom in the range 775-10301000

Q: How can I see other user's merit data or Will it be visible who gives merits to who?
A: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=764381

Q: Where I can check who sent me the merit point? or How can I check Where I spent my sMerit points?
A: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit

Q: Where can I see some Interesting data about Merit points?
A: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats

Q: Is it possible for merit source to sell merits ?
A: This is possible but everything is public and it will be caught. Also, there are limits.

Q: Q. How many sMerits have been distributed to existing members?
A: About 600k.

Q: Can you spend it on yourself ?
A: You cannot send merit to yourself

Q: Is it possible to +1 posts from before merit system introduction?
A: Yes (tested).

Q: Does meriting posts made earlier than account(+1 giver) registration date is possible?
A: Yes (tested).

Q: theymos said that typically one can not loose merit, what is the untypical than?
A: I think he was speaking about sMerit, the sendable supply.
If theymos thinks there are too many sMerit in circulation (or rather, hoarded on accounts instead of being circulated),
he could decide to cut the sMerit of all accounts to reduce that supply (or maybe only take away sMerit from those that dont use them in the first place).

He also might consider a "demerit" system for the future, however that is currently not integrated or planned.

You can ask your question here, if the thread doesn't have that question.

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January 25, 2018, 07:39:18 AM
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I'm going to pick each and every answer about merit point and list them here. You can help me by posting Question with there right solution and I try to list them here as soon as possible.

Q1. Where I can check who sent me the merit point?
Ans. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit

Q2. Will deleting my post with merit points will also lead to the deletion of all the merit points?
Ans. No, The merit is not undone if the post is deleted.

Q3. How many merit point I can send to a single person?
Ans. You can only give 50 merit to a user in a 30 day window.

Q4 How many merit sources are there?
Ans. There are about 35 right now.

Are there any merit sources in the local thread?

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January 25, 2018, 07:45:15 AM
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How many sendable merits are given by default to different rank levels ? Shouldn't be half of merit points as declared in official thread ?

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January 25, 2018, 07:46:46 AM
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Will also look for these questions.
Q  Are there any merit sources in the local thread?
Ans: Yes


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January 25, 2018, 08:03:32 AM
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About "necro merit"
-Is it possible to +1 posts from before merit system introduction?
-Does meriting posts made earlier than account(+1 giver) registration date possible?
-theymos said that typically one can not loose merit, what is the untypical than? strictly speaking - how to loose merit?


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January 25, 2018, 08:07:33 AM
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-Is it possible to +1 posts from before merit system introduction?
Yes (tested).

-Does meriting posts made earlier than account(+1 giver) registration date is possible?
Yes (tested).

-theymos said that typically one can not loose merit, what is the untypical than? strictly speaking - how to loose merit?
I think he was speaking about sMerit, the sendable supply.
If theymos thinks there are too many sMerit in circulation (or rather, hoarded on accounts instead of being circulated),
he could decide to cut the sMerit of all accounts to reduce that supply (or maybe only take away sMerit from those that dont use them in the first place).

He also might consider a "demerit" system for the future, however that is currently not integrated or planned.


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January 25, 2018, 08:29:53 AM
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About "necro merit"
-Is it possible to +1 posts from before merit system introduction?
-Does meriting posts made earlier than account(+1 giver) registration date possible?
-theymos said that typically one can not loose merit, what is the untypical than? strictly speaking - how to loose merit?



You can try first two by meriting such post. Choose one that you really feels adds value to the community and share the results here.
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Q: spend it on yourself ?
A: You cannot send merit to yourself
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January 25, 2018, 09:56:55 AM
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Q: Why can't I find the "+Merit" button to rate a post?
A: You can only see the button when you have sMerit to give away. It is on the right besides the quote button, but hidden when you have 0 sMerit.


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January 25, 2018, 10:00:59 AM
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Q. Why I am not able to see +merit option ?
A. This will occur is you have 0 Smerits currently. Possible in a number of scenarios. Like you are a newbie or Jr member with 0 merits. This means you have 0 Smerits as well and you will not see that option.

Q- Where to check current merits in my profile ?
A- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit

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January 25, 2018, 11:13:40 AM
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Q. How can I spend 0.5 Smerit whih I get when someone sends me a merit?
A. You have to wait for another merit so that you get another 0.5 Smerit.

Q. Do merits decay ?
A. Not for now, but if people start to hoard, it would be implemented. (Response by theymos)
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January 25, 2018, 11:17:28 AM
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Q. Is it possible for merit source to sell merits ?
A. This is possible but everything is public and it will be caught. Also, there are limits. (Response by theymos)

Q. I have 100 merits for now. Can anyone reduce it ?
A. For now, no one can demerit you and thus you will have at least 100 for sure.
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January 25, 2018, 11:26:05 AM
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Now the problem here will be would other members be active enough to use their merit points to give to other members? I have seen similar features on other forums as well and  they don't bother to use it. But who knows it is a new system and members might be well aware of what comes when they are giving merits to other members as ranking up is on the line.

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January 25, 2018, 11:36:10 AM
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Now the problem here will be would other members be active enough to use their merit points to give to other members? I have seen similar features on other forums as well and  they don't bother to use it. But who knows it is a new system and members might be well aware of what comes when they are giving merits to other members as ranking up is on the line.

Some probably got the time to do it like this thread here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2819141.0

Also made few points here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2819141.msg28888705#msg28888705
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January 25, 2018, 11:38:22 AM
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Q: Why can't I find the "+Merit" button to rate a post?
A: You can only see the button when you have sMerit to give away. It is on the right besides the quote button, but hidden when you have 0 sMerit.
I now have 0 sMerit point after using it, but I can still see the "+1 Merit" button.

If a newbie or Jr Member that had received at least 2 Merits = 1 sMerit can confirm that he can now see the button,
the answer should be like this:
A: After receiving your first sMerit, the button will be visible.

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January 25, 2018, 03:22:45 PM
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Is it fair that merits will be only like change , just one for one? people will not give merit ofr interesting post or suggestion.. I dont see the sense in it... it will be better to earn it somehow

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January 25, 2018, 03:43:22 PM
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Q: spend it on yourself ?
A: You cannot send merit to yourself
I think this will ultimately not be enforceable unfortunately.

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January 25, 2018, 03:46:41 PM
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Is it fair that merits will be only like change , just one for one? people will not give merit ofr interesting post or suggestion.. I dont see the sense in it... it will be better to earn it somehow
You earn it when you make good quality posts. It's not about the content now it's about the quality of content and community members decide whether the information is relevant and deserves the Merit or not.

You need to come up with some high quality standard on frequent time to be eligible for merit. People often earn respect and trust on forums and now it's time for Merit.

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January 25, 2018, 03:53:18 PM
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I repeat my question here:
Merit is created to support high quality posts and prevent spamming posts. No upgrades of memberships without earned Merits.
The DT-guidlines are clear:


- Do not rate people based on the quality of their posts.


So my question is:
Why are still accounts getting negative trusts because of post quality?
Don't the DT-members trust the new feature?


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January 25, 2018, 03:56:49 PM
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Is it fair that merits will be only like change , just one for one? people will not give merit ofr interesting post or suggestion.. I dont see the sense in it... it will be better to earn it somehow
You earn it when you make good quality posts. It's not about the content now it's about the quality of content and community members decide whether the information is relevant and deserves the Merit or not.

You need to come up with some high quality standard on frequent time to be eligible for merit. People often earn respect and trust on forums and now it's time for Merit.

I understand why it profitably for you!!!
But I am sure! that people wont be to Merit because of quality posts)) And everyone it understand! come on!

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