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January 25, 2018, 07:27:01 PM
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This thread is to post if you notice suspicious giving of merits. I am adding some to start with :

Thread one

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2095908.msg28684426#msg28684426

50 merits given for the reply.

Thread two

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2374959.msg28836806#msg28836806

28 merits given

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January 25, 2018, 07:39:16 PM
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They do seem to be a bit overgenerous. Aren't these donations coming up for review in the future.

btw - I've just given you a merit point - Is that suspicious, bribery or corruption. Smiley

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January 25, 2018, 07:42:07 PM
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btw - I've just given you a merit point - Is that suspicious, bribery or corruption. Smiley

Let other members decide that. Smiley

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January 25, 2018, 07:49:15 PM
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This thread is to post if you notice suspicious giving of merits. I am adding some to start with :

Thread one

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2095908.msg28684426#msg28684426

50 merits given for the reply.

Thread two

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2374959.msg28836806#msg28836806

28 merits given

It might be too early for people to come to terms with the new system and to determine the exact amount of 'merit' they should be giving out. This should stabilize once the free sMerits dry up.
Given that merits are irreversible, those who try to abuse it blatantly in the initial stages will soon be found out.
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January 25, 2018, 09:11:53 PM
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This thread is to post if you notice suspicious giving of merits. I am adding some to start with :

Thread one

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2095908.msg28684426#msg28684426

50 merits given for the reply.

Thread two

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2374959.msg28836806#msg28836806

28 merits given

It might be too early for people to come to terms with the new system and to determine the exact amount of 'merit' they should be giving out. This should stabilize once the free sMerits dry up.
Given that merits are irreversible, those who try to abuse it blatantly in the initial stages will soon be found out.
You just gave them an excuse. Now they will say that they were testing or so. More people may replicate and say that   I was not aware about how many merits to give as the concept is new.

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January 26, 2018, 01:14:06 PM
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This thread is to post if you notice suspicious giving of merits. I am adding some to start with :

Thread one

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2095908.msg28684426#msg28684426

50 merits given for the reply.

Thread two

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2374959.msg28836806#msg28836806

28 merits given

It might be too early for people to come to terms with the new system and to determine the exact amount of 'merit' they should be giving out. This should stabilize once the free sMerits dry up.
Given that merits are irreversible, those who try to abuse it blatantly in the initial stages will soon be found out.
You just gave them an excuse. Now they will say that they were testing or so. More people may replicate and say that   I was not aware about how many merits to give as the concept is new.

When the maximum number of merits which can be given to a post is 50, it would be tough to justify giving that to a random post, made a few days back. I don't think the excuse will stand.
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January 26, 2018, 01:33:55 PM
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There's a good thing in this new merit system. We can now able to track those account farmers and abusers. I also had been seeing posts that don't make any sense at all yet receives a handful of merit. I will also be posting here some that I have found.
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January 26, 2018, 03:39:06 PM
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come on. do why really need all these attempts to behave like a merit police?

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January 26, 2018, 03:42:36 PM
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come on. do why really need all these attempts to behave like a merit police?

1) This is good for the forum.

2) It will prevent the abuse of newly introduced merit system.

3) It will decrease the work load on moderators.

This much should be enough.

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January 26, 2018, 03:52:12 PM
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come on. do why really need all these attempts to behave like a merit police?

1) This is good for the forum.

2) It will prevent the abuse of newly introduced merit system.

3) It will decrease the work load on moderators.

This much should be enough.

yes, the merit-system can improve the content of the forum. but i really can't stand all the wannabes. why? maybe just because of this: 1312.

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January 26, 2018, 03:54:26 PM
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come on. do why we really need all these attempts to behave like a merit police?

When incomprehensible comments like the one quoted below are receiving 28 merits then it is not out of place for some merit policing!

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January 26, 2018, 03:59:37 PM
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come on. do why we really need all these attempts to behave like a merit police?

When incomprehensible comments like the one quoted below are receiving 28 merits then it is not out of place for some merit policing!

I can improve my self in trading by knowing more things about it and say m studying not about it and the polystyrene m platform of it also for me to improve i will trade some cryptocurrency for me to experience to trade and know more about it because if I only read about trading i cannot gain knowledge for me to be able to be good in trading because experience is the best teacher.

sure this post in complete nonsense. but why do you care that somebody gave it merit? if the merit-system does not work without a witch-hunt then it has to be changed. give the system some time and you will see if it improves things.
and there will always be ways to cheat. whatever how many cops there are.

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January 26, 2018, 04:09:35 PM
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sure this post in complete nonsense. but why do you care that somebody gave it merit? if the merit-system does not work without a witch-hunt then it has to be changed. give the system some time and you will see if it improves things.
and there will always be ways to cheat. whatever how many cops there are.

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January 26, 2018, 04:19:49 PM
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They do seem to be a bit overgenerous. Aren't these donations coming up for review in the future.

btw - I've just given you a merit point - Is that suspicious, bribery or corruption. Smiley
You are not under any suspicion, for example, you could circumvent the rules and do as you like, when a lowlife beggar like me comes and posts a rhetoric joke to indirectly points out what you are doing will get his post deleted. I hope that you could enjoy your frog pond though.

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January 26, 2018, 04:23:03 PM
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come on. do why we really need all these attempts to behave like a merit police?

When incomprehensible comments like the one quoted below are receiving 28 merits then it is not out of place for some merit policing!

I can improve my self in trading by knowing more things about it and say m studying not about it and the polystyrene m platform of it also for me to improve i will trade some cryptocurrency for me to experience to trade and know more about it because if I only read about trading i cannot gain knowledge for me to be able to be good in trading because experience is the best teacher.

sure this post in complete nonsense. but why do you care that somebody gave it merit? if the merit-system does not work without a witch-hunt then it has to be changed. give the system some time and you will see if it improves things.
and there will always be ways to cheat. whatever how many cops there are.

This just proves that the merit system will be abused by account farmers. The suspicious merit giving would indicate that the owner of the receiver is the same as the sender. The very purpose of imposing merit system is to improve the quality of the people posting in this forum and lowering the rate of spammers and shitposters.

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January 26, 2018, 08:18:45 PM
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Accounts not connected, but working together:
One DT-member involved
Merits system abusing or just not understanding the system or is it still legit?
50 Merits for this post
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2813828.msg28801076#msg28801076
20 Merits for campaign announcement from partner of manager
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2482937.msg25417254#msg25417254

I just got this from a trustworthy source inside the government.
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January 26, 2018, 08:23:45 PM
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Accounts not connected, but working together:
One DT-member involved
Merits system abusing or just not understanding the system or is it still legit?
50 Merits for this post
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2813828.msg28801076#msg28801076
20 Merits for campaign announcement from partner of manager
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2482937.msg25417254#msg25417254


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so Lauda couldn't be arsed to go through pages of posts to find the best one, so they dropped a 20 on a reply.. Atriz giving 50 to lauda... so what? the cat is legendary - not as if they need any more..

you are probably better off working on positive posts to get yourself some merits bud

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January 26, 2018, 08:47:38 PM
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Accounts not connected, but working together:
One DT-member involved
Merits system abusing or just not understanding the system or is it still legit?
50 Merits for this post
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2813828.msg28801076#msg28801076
20 Merits for campaign announcement from partner of manager
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2482937.msg25417254#msg25417254


Lauda is a legendary, they are mates, lauda is DT-2... they both respect each other..

so Lauda couldn't be arsed to go through pages of posts to find the best one, so they dropped a 20 on a reply.. Atriz giving 50 to lauda... so what? the cat is legendary - not as if they need any more..

you are probably better off working on positive posts to get yourself some merits bud
Accounts not connected, but working together:
One DT-member involved
Merits system abusing or just not understanding the system or is it still legit?
50 Merits for this post
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2813828.msg28801076#msg28801076
20 Merits for campaign announcement from partner of manager
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2482937.msg25417254#msg25417254


Lauda is a legendary, they are mates, lauda is DT-2... they both respect each other..

so Lauda couldn't be arsed to go through pages of posts to find the best one, so they dropped a 20 on a reply.. Atriz giving 50 to lauda... so what? the cat is legendary - not as if they need any more..

you are probably better off working on positive posts to get yourself some merits bud
Interesting arguments, especially, when we look to signature campaigns. There is the first one, that pays more for gained merits. Also legendaries are profiting now. But that is not the point. I am sure, Lauda needn't merits for more profits. That is clear.
But to turn back to your arguments:
Friends/Collegues may give each other points for undefined reason.
Campaign announcements may gain merits by the campaign team itself.
It is ok for me, if the merit system may also be used this way. But it would be great, if the merits guidlines would be adjusted to clear that out. Maybe others also want to give their friends merits as present or just for fun.
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January 26, 2018, 09:59:43 PM
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Friends/Collegues may give each other points for undefined reason.
Campaign announcements may gain merits by the campaign team itself.
It is ok for me, if the merit system may also be used this way. But it would be great, if the merits guidlines would be adjusted to clear that out. Maybe others also want to give their friends merits as present or just for fun.
The way this, needless mistake instead of an actual solution, works is as follows:
Non merit sources are like non DT members. While not preferred, you can leave *almost any* kind of rating to anyone. The same goes for sending sMerit[1].
Merit sources are like DT members. They should pay attention to how they are distributing their points. E.g., obviously someone would be a bad merit source if he/she split his/her supply on the (same) few people each month.

Therefore, as a non source, I'm allowed to send the sMerit to whomever I want, whenever I want, in whatever amount I want.

[1] Just like in the trust system, sending sMerit to your alts will land you into trouble. The only difference here is that selling is not explicitly allowed (selling trust was not explicitly disallowed AFAIK, it was a community *rule*).

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