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January 26, 2018, 06:57:38 AM
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Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.
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January 26, 2018, 07:03:03 AM
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So I think this merit mechanism is unfair, because it would allow those legendary or heroic users to profit from the merit mechanisms, and not to upgrade those who can not afford it.
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January 26, 2018, 07:06:15 AM
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Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.
A lot of changes happen in this forum lately due to some issues of shit posting of some people here. It was a good idea to clean this forum so that it would really function on its purpose which is to become a real 'forum.' I've seen lately the +merit button and read about it. Merit now is more valuable than just the number of activities or post. It was also a really good idea to count the person's contribution in this forum. But it is also possible that high rank members here can sell their merit points to those who wants to rank up.

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January 26, 2018, 07:08:51 AM
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So I think this merit mechanism is unfair, because it would allow those legendary or heroic users to profit from the merit mechanisms, and not to upgrade those who can not afford it.

I'm definitely coming from the opposite perspective here, as being here on these forums for a while and finally reaching a high ranking. However, I don't think this system is particularly unfair. Those who have merit will not be selling it; hero and legendary members at this point in time know better than to sell their merit. Even if it is being sold, it ends up being pretty obvious because all you need to do is look at the suspects posts and who merited them.

There's nothing about affording here; merit is not a form of money. It's (I guess) just another way of protecting the forum from spammers who are just trying to get into sig campaigns.

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January 26, 2018, 07:16:44 AM
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It is against the rules and you can't do it. I am pretty sure it will be obvious too who sold and for how much and besides why would you want to risk a ban for merit points? Write quality posts and everything will be fine. This  helps get rid of the spam, this is what we all want isnt' it?  Smiley

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January 26, 2018, 07:17:36 AM
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Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.

Yups I see someone Newbie have a 10 and 5 merit this day.
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January 26, 2018, 07:21:16 AM
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Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.
I don’t see anything wrong in noobies acquiring merit. I don’t understand why you automatically jump to conclusion it was bought? Merit is not panacea to provide information about accoun authority, its a tool to prevent mass account farming.
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January 26, 2018, 07:25:09 AM
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Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.
Or maybe, just maybe. It is an alternate account, a new one i guess. And the high ranked member just tried to merit his newbie rank for experimenting purpose. Let's not jump on conclusions that newbies would buy merits. It is pretty illogical, newbies would buy merits for? They need merit as a jr and that's a pretty long way to go.

But supposed that the newbie bought the merit, wouldn't someone or anyone notice it? If it's a crappy post and he got a merit then the one who gave the point(high ranked account) will be held responsible right? Perma-ban of your high ranked account for some silly merit, what a waste.
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January 26, 2018, 07:27:34 AM
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Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.
I don’t see anything wrong in noobies acquiring merit. I don’t understand why you automatically jump to conclusion it was bought? Merit is not panacea to provide information about accoun authority, its a tool to prevent mass account farming.

You just won a merit.

I can't stress enough how much it is important to distance oneself from account rank.
I have a feeling most people just want to rely on some universal metrics that will tell them "this account have authority because it has N merit, so I don't really need to read it's content, It's better to just agree". This is wrong. Metrics should not matter, CONTENTS of the posts that what should matter no matter what merit/activity/rank it has. Legends can make mistakes and noobs can provide useful info. Rank is merely an indication, not final authority. 
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January 26, 2018, 07:29:33 AM
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Im newbie here and I saw merits.. I dont understand it.. I even research in google but I couldnt find any answer..
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January 26, 2018, 07:31:52 AM
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well if you ask me what do you think i say that iam a little worried from this merit system it might get abused by users friends could give each other merit and also they could sell buy without anyone know or detect it  i know merit like giving a like on post in facebook but here is so different than face or twitter and at the end and about i hope this new system will in a test period and see how it works                                                                                                                                                                        
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January 26, 2018, 07:31:54 AM
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Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.
I don’t see anything wrong in noobies acquiring merit. I don’t understand why you automatically jump to conclusion it was bought? Merit is not panacea to provide information about accoun authority, its a tool to prevent mass account farming.

You have a point there, not because a newbie acquired a merit doesn't mean he instantly buys them from someone or they have an alt account, Some time, even a newbie can bring new things to this forum because of his knowledge acquired from monitoring all crypto, and just started to join here.

Please don't be judgemental on matters we don't know,

Anyways, selling merits is a possibility, if account can be sold I think merit will be as well, I think can easily solve if they finish this system of merit, as we all know, Merit is just started and I know for a fact that they will see the effect of this sooner or later, and by that time, I think they will enhance this system to be fair for others.
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January 26, 2018, 07:33:33 AM
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Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.
A lot of changes happen in this forum lately due to some issues of shit posting of some people here. It was a good idea to clean this forum so that it would really function on its purpose which is to become a real 'forum.' I've seen lately the +merit button and read about it. Merit now is more valuable than just the number of activities or post. It was also a really good idea to count the person's contribution in this forum. But it is also possible that high rank members here can sell their merit points to those who wants to rank up.
So if that is the case another problem is rising and need to be solve? Seems like every time when the problem was given a solution another problem is rising.
Well this is possible but as long as the moderators and the good members here are working together that kind of problem can be solve, and whatever possible problem that occur it can be curable until the time that all community member here will act responsibly.
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January 26, 2018, 07:33:52 AM
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Sure, people might sell their merit points, but honestly, what would be the market value for them and how would you even go about negotiating the sale of merits?  Since I'm just a Jr. Member the new system isn't really good for me but I like the fact that it will keep discussion quality high.  Or at the least prevent people from spamming the board just to join a bounty campaign.  

Another side benefit is that I believe newbies will do more research before they start posting so that they can earn merits with their posts.  That helps all the users here become more informed.

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January 26, 2018, 07:38:19 AM
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I agree with that.
People can sell their merits
People can use their merits for just their friends or for just their unions also
People who know each other or who use multi accounts can use their merits also to themselves.
If the aim of merit is to prevent spam and low quality post, the solution is not merit.
There are also small precautions like to put minimum amount of letter for a post.
To put minimum period of time between 2 posts.
If you still insist about merit system it can be change to give people more sMerit.
Giving only one sMerit means you have elections and just one vote for one post. But this doesn't work for lots of people.
If you want to make a system which is equal for everyone than everyone should start from 0 merits why different ranks and different merits around ?
If you have a new starts this will be a start for everyone not like giving thousands of merits to legends and giving nothing to Jr.s
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January 26, 2018, 07:41:23 AM
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This merit mechanism is still under test, and we should not make that explicit because it helps us to have more quality posts than just those that make no sense. Of course, we can also make suggestions, after all, this is only in the testing process.
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January 26, 2018, 07:42:38 AM
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I don't know why some people are not liking the merit system. Yes we more than likely will see people abusing it but if it puts posts back on track rather than just senseless spam then it's a good change.
The system has only been in place for a couple of days so it is still early days. If anything our less senior members of the community should start to see more merit than the likes of legends.

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January 26, 2018, 07:45:32 AM
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Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.

We cannot control people from giving merit, no matter what your rank is you deserve merit as long as its reasonable. This is a great new system that everyone should work hard for. Giving merit to those people you think qualified is a must, it is meant to be spent since there is no benefit of hoarding. Its not good to sell your merit, you should be responsible for that and you might face consequences for that action.
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January 26, 2018, 07:48:34 AM
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Merit added to the forum which is in my thinking is a great move by admin Theymos, but what about those guys who have multiple accounts already here they can easily create a new account and give merit to it? What about them and it will be unfair to that person who will just come here to learn and read the queries about Bitcoin will get no rank?

However, I am in the side of Merit. I like that idea personally.


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January 26, 2018, 07:48:42 AM
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That is definitely a legitimate concern. We'll just have to hope that a majority of users will use the merit point system as intended and that moderators and good samaritans will report any suspicious behaviour that could be evidence of individuals selling merit.
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