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February 03, 2018, 05:05:54 PM
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I agree on this point, the only real pity is that the merit system has not been implemented already a year ago, before the demographic explosion of the the alts accounts - I guess for reasons of bounties. To procrastinate further the adoption of this necessary measure could have been fatal for the forum.
On the other side, if I may joke on that, merit the worse thing that happened to old high ranked users who were about to rank up Smiley

The admin made some adjustments for such unlucky members.

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February 06, 2018, 10:38:32 PM
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I agree on this point, the only real pity is that the merit system has not been implemented already a year ago, before the demographic explosion of the the alts accounts - I guess for reasons of bounties. To procrastinate further the adoption of this necessary measure could have been fatal for the forum.
On the other side, if I may joke on that, merit the worse thing that happened to old high ranked users who were about to rank up Smiley

The admin made some adjustments for such unlucky members.

Only for Hero Members with over 750 activty, my dear, and if you don't believe me look at my activity and compare it with my rank Wink
Jokes apart, theymos has in fact mentioned once that also lower high ranking members who were about to grow in rank at the moment of the change of rules should eventually be given the missing merits after a rewiew of their posting history, or something like that, but I didn't see any traces on the forum of this having ever happened, at least no-one has mentioned cases in this meta area of the forum.

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February 13, 2018, 09:47:08 PM
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Wow I gave the kid 5 to take him to 10 now he has 20... this is proof that the system works people...
Thats really cool. I dont have many merits but based on what you said I'll send you one. thats how we evolve.
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February 14, 2018, 01:50:14 AM
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Overall I am also happy with the new merit system. As more and more people start to learn about the new rules, they will think twice before making useless posts.
Yes and many beginners will learn the quickest way as possible with the use of merit system. Because there are many beginners that tend to post useless to rank up quickly.

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February 14, 2018, 03:14:54 AM
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Its a great post from Kaar. And I surely agree with him .It proves that really the merit system is working fine. One merit from me!

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February 14, 2018, 04:34:50 AM
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Perseverance,eagerness and attitude that the OP possess made him a great poster.This should be an example for all the people who keeps on complaining about the merit system.Besides, the system itself is not the problem but the people who can't accept it and makes this community worse.

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February 14, 2018, 04:43:45 AM
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Its a great post from Kaar. And I surely agree with him .It proves that really the merit system is working fine. One merit from me!

Indeed,As a newbie i admit that this makes a model for me,and do what i can to be a good member to the forum.
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February 14, 2018, 06:10:22 AM
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I think it's a good thing happen with all members in this forum , not only new members but theymos actually needs a tweak on reducing the requirement merit for Member and Full Member cause in my personality , it's quite high.

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February 14, 2018, 10:28:02 AM
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It's the best update, now the new users will be able to learn more quickly and will post quality posts and that will help them get more merit points based upon their quality Post.

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February 14, 2018, 04:39:55 PM
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So, for me to understand this new merit system is that if your new, you need to really dig in and read what's happening in this community, once you, as a newbie, need to contribute to topics. I'm not quite sure if a "Newbie" will have the knowledge that, let say....A Hero Member has.
Newbies and those who do post quality posting, still are relying on the Peer's of this Forum (upper ranked) members who we giving Merits to give to those in this community. 
I dont see the logic? I've been with the community since September of last year and I've really started to involve myself into this community. I've been reading much on the Merits and how they are given and how a person can rank up. It does seem a bit unfair.

I'm sure that someone with Higher Merits will respond to this posting but the thing is. Even if this is a "Quality" post. I'll be pasted up. I gave my only Merit I could to the person who made this topic. I'm writing because I feel like it wont matter if I write a quality post or not. it's left up to the "Peers" of this community and I dont see them giving anyone much of anything.

So now I'll still continue to post and do other things like Bounty but I have and will still continue to post in here for my knowledge to the Newbies.

Based on the things I've said above....Newbies dont be discourage. If you truly believe in a topic then dont be afraid to post. Dont do it for a Merit but rather do it because you are contributing to the community. 
Thank you for this topic. I at least feel good that I posted a "Quality" Post but I'm not worries about this community. It's All Good.

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February 14, 2018, 05:19:27 PM
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So, for me to understand this new merit system is that if your new, you need to really dig in and read what's happening in this community, once you, as a newbie, need to contribute to topics. I'm not quite sure if a "Newbie" will have the knowledge that, let say....A Hero Member has.
Newbies and those who do post quality posting, still are relying on the Peer's of this Forum (upper ranked) members who we giving Merits to give to those in this community. 
I dont see the logic? I've been with the community since September of last year and I've really started to involve myself into this community. I've been reading much on the Merits and how they are given and how a person can rank up. It does seem a bit unfair.

1) You are agreeing that newbie has less knowledge and thus it is justified if he does not get merits for initial posts. He can always learn and improve.

2) Upper ranked members do not much merits to give. Major portion will come from merit sources who are appointed by admin (and thus expected to be neutral or fair).

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February 21, 2018, 04:00:19 PM
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merit system will make newbies to post good quality information to rank up in the chain

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February 26, 2018, 02:36:25 PM
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merit system will make newbies to post good quality information to rank up in the chain
That depends upon their attitude. If they have positive attitude, they will change the way they write to better one, try to write better threads; and vice versa. Someone can change and adapt to new system will survive, evolve and move to next ranks.

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March 01, 2018, 07:18:50 PM
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March 01, 2018, 07:30:51 PM
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merit system will make newbies to post good quality information to rank up in the chain
That depends upon their attitude. If they have positive attitude, they will change the way they write to better one, try to write better threads; and vice versa. Someone can change and adapt to new system will survive, evolve and move to next ranks.
It doesn't depend so much on attitude as much as linguistic ability and how stupid and lazy these shitposters are.  Even if they're now extremely motivated to write very interesting, well-written posts, most of them just don't have the ability to do so. 

Instead they scream as loud as they can how they're writing posts made out of 24k gold and there's no one giving them merit!!  They just continually fail to realize how bad their writing is.  Most can't improve even if they wanted to. 

This is why I wish sig campaigns paid for local board posts, and that those boards had reliable merit sources.  I have no problem with these people ranking up, but in trying to do it in the main section, they're crapping all over everything.  They should soil their own house, not ours.

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March 02, 2018, 04:59:34 AM
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I agree to disagree. First, you are right that they (most of shit-posters, spammers don't have ability to write good- (not high-) quality threads because they are lack of knowledge, skills, experience. Most of the time they spent in the forum till now is for spamming with shitty posts. They don't care about knowledge, skills, then that's why they are lack of them.

But you are wrong at the following point. Right atittude is the first thing to change so many things. It's Knowledge-Attitude-Practice relationship. Changing attitude first, then getting more knowledge, and finally changing their practices by composing high-quality, constructive threads.

Additionally, part of them have knowledge, skills, experience, by which I mean only small part of them are able to write high-quality posts, but they didnt' because they have no time to write such constructive posts (they are account-farmers so dont' have too much time for each account).
It doesn't depend so much on attitude as much as linguistic ability and how stupid and lazy these shitposters are.  Even if they're now extremely motivated to write very interesting, well-written posts, most of them just don't have the ability to do so.  

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March 05, 2018, 03:30:18 AM
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No never. its the worst thing. Now we have to work even harder to get promoted Sad for bounty programs
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March 05, 2018, 07:04:36 AM
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Meritorious replies sometimes helps to spot out scam replies too. I heard about it once

Yes, this is true. Suppose a member made a reply in 50 words about some bitcoin exchange. Now it got 50 merits from another member. It is obvious that both accounts are operated by same person or they are friends. Many of such cases had been reported here. Some people are too dumb to make it evident I guess.

No never. its the worst thing. Now we have to work even harder to get promoted Sad for bounty programs

Of course, it is worst thing for shit posters. They needed this treatment for quite long. And OP mentioned that merit is the best thing for the "forum" but you obviously do not care about that and are worried about your own interests here only.

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March 05, 2018, 10:34:01 AM
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I agree with you that the merit point is good for the forum. It is equally good for the users. It is not only for the new users but for everyone. There are older users who cannot rank up because of the introduction of the new merit system. Reason being that they have ranked up substantially before this introduction.

So overall, it is good for everybody.

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March 05, 2018, 10:43:28 AM
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I agree with that but best thing is that there will be activated accounts only. Neither spam nor inactive account s will be there.

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