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Question: Do you think members can rank up with the new merit system?
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January 27, 2018, 10:00:29 PM
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I think everyone can have a chance to rank up; when I read about the new merit system my first thought was "ok, gg, I'll never reach the next rank".. my second thought was "ok, let's try and put some effort on my next posts, let's try to give something to this forum"
I made few posts and I got rewarded; as long as people keep sending sMerits I think it's definitely possible, a lot harder but still possible
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January 27, 2018, 10:05:33 PM
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I think everyone can have a chance to rank up; when I read about the new merit system my first thought was "ok, gg, I'll never reach the next rank".. my second thought was "ok, let's try and put some effort on my next posts, let's try to give something to this forum"
I made few posts and I got rewarded; as long as people keep sending sMerits I think it's definitely possible, a lot harder but still possible

couple more for you fella.. you only need 10 more now!

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January 27, 2018, 11:20:48 PM
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couple more for you fella.. you only need 10 more now!


Ahh I see, so this is the type of quality posts the merit system is bringing us. Really great! Just reminds me of the posts/threads where people talk about their favourite color or if they believe in aliens. A comment like yours is nothing but pure spam.
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January 27, 2018, 11:27:52 PM
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It is a good idea- to keep the non quality posters from ranking up, but you are right, many people wont even bother sending merits even if the user deserves it. I'm happy that I have already ranked up to Hero before the system started Grin

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January 27, 2018, 11:47:36 PM
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The chance to rank up are always be here but its now depend on the quality of your work. Its hard at first specially if your purpose is just to get a higher rank for a higher profit but if you realize you can learn so many things over time, that you can use when you are much prepared for the future. Don’t focus on making money, just enjoy sharing your thoughts and you’ll be paid off for that.

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January 28, 2018, 12:01:41 AM
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The new merit system: The good, the bad, and the ugly!

The good: Only the quality posters will rank up.

Good! It should be that way. Do you want a group of Legendaries spamming the forum?

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The bad: Even if you post quality contents you may not get many merits by the people.

But if a person is really joining the forum to learn and meet new friends, is there really a need for them to get merits?

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The ugly: When you post great content many people are lazy to click and go to the next page and add the merit(s).

Because there is no great content persuasive enough to make be give my merits. It is not laziness

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January 28, 2018, 12:43:04 AM
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The new merit system: The good, the bad, and the ugly!

The good: Only the quality posters will rank up.

The bad: Even if you post quality contents you may not get many merits by the people.

The ugly: When you post great content many people are lazy to click and go to the next page and add the merit(s).

Share your thoughts about this merit system latest development, thanks Smiley  
  

My main concern is "the ugly". Sources cannot read every post and the rest of the members will not necessarily reward quality... They may trade merit or give it only to other uses they know etc... For the system to work, all users should have the improvement of quality in mind and I don´t think that´s safe to assume.
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January 28, 2018, 01:52:20 AM
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The good : Members will level up if they got a good quality posters, but it is going to take extra time especially if you are almost level up and then the merit system come up, but good quality poster will eventually level up
The bad : If you think your post is good there are people in the service section that offered service to review your post quality and going to give you merit if he think that your post worth it
The ugly : People need some time to adapt with new system, if they are lazy to click its mean you dont do a good quality or helpful post

Conclusion : appreciate the new system and see how it goes, you cant expect a good result from new system in few days, give it a try and if the system is not good there will be evaluation from Theymos
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January 28, 2018, 01:57:54 AM
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I do understand how you feel and how it can be frustrating to gain those merits, but after seeing many users improve and be rewarded, I had hopes that no matter how hard it would be, people would sooner or later recognize you if you truly give an effort in posting. I hope that someday you and the others who are having a hard time accepting the merit system would try to see the good in it and try to adapt so that  we can all move forward and be better members of this forum.
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January 28, 2018, 05:14:36 AM
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I do understand how you feel and how it can be frustrating to gain those merits, but after seeing many users improve and be rewarded, I had hopes that no matter how hard it would be, people would sooner or later recognize you if you truly give an effort in posting.

Can you give examples of these "improved" posts? I still see the same shitposts. Plus I believe most of them are not here to learn about Bitcoin.

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I hope that someday you and the others who are having a hard time accepting the merit system would try to see the good in it and try to adapt so that  we can all move forward and be better members of this forum.

I hope all of them spammers leave. That would encourage the old Bitcoiners to come back in the forum, making it a place of learning again.

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January 28, 2018, 05:30:07 AM
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The bad: Even if you post quality contents you may not get many merits by the people.

Well you cant force somebody to merit your post even though it is good just wait patiently and someone will merit you one day.


Another thing can we just post normally like before merit system is not a big deal because it is only a requirement to rank up, Rank doesn't matter if you really care about the forum, what really matter is you shared your knowledge about crypto and you also gained knowledge here.

I do understand how you feel and how it can be frustrating to gain those merits, but after seeing many users improve and be rewarded, I had hopes that no matter how hard it would be, people would sooner or later recognize you if you truly give an effort in posting.

Can you give examples of these "improved" posts? I still see the same shitposts. Plus I believe most of them are not here to learn about Bitcoin.

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I hope that someday you and the others who are having a hard time accepting the merit system would try to see the good in it and try to adapt so that  we can all move forward and be better members of this forum.

I hope all of them spammers leave. That would encourage the old Bitcoiners to come back in the forum, making it a place of learning again.

It is okay if you still see shit post out there, they wont get merit of out them and eventually they will be stuck at their current rank and will be fed up to join signature campaign. Time will come and those spammer will be lessen and this forum will regain its place as a place of learning about cryptocurrency.
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January 29, 2018, 12:07:53 AM
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couple more for you fella.. you only need 10 more now!


Ahh I see, so this is the type of quality posts the merit system is bringing us. Really great! Just reminds me of the posts/threads where people talk about their favourite color or if they believe in aliens. A comment like yours is nothing but pure spam.
LOL Smiley Tell him the truth. We are still going head-to-head we need more people to work this out.
It is very funny to see only Legendary members are happy with the new merit system. Why?
Perhaps, they never have to work for the new merit system Cheesy
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January 29, 2018, 12:47:44 AM
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The fact is, you will be upgraded if you write posts which are both good and contributive. Those posts which get attention of users will bring merits to you. Of course, not all of them will ready to give you merits, but it's ok. Don't worry too much about merits. Please focus on your postal quality first. Good news will come for your efforts.
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January 29, 2018, 12:55:13 AM
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It is possible for the jr.members to achieve 10merits so they can rank up to a member.But from member you will need 100merits so thats the start of our nightmare.I believe theymos will adjust it after a month or two if he sees people are having a hard time to rank up.
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January 29, 2018, 02:13:59 AM
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It is possible for the jr.members to achieve 10merits so they can rank up to a member.But from member you will need 100merits so thats the start of our nightmare.I believe theymos will adjust it after a month or two if he sees people are having a hard time to rank up.
It's almost the same case of ranking from Jr. Member to Member, but a little bit harder. I don't think it will be a problem.

The problem for your case and most of users in the forum is, the merit system launched when they almost reach target minimum activities to be ranked up to their next level. That's the problem, that one makes them sad. I also think that Theymos should adjust allocated merits based on activities at that moment, not on users rank, that's fairer allocating that way.

However, over time, the problem will dissapear, new users who join the forum after today will have enough time to contribute good posts and collect minimum merits.

Good luck. Let's contribute to the forum possitively!
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January 29, 2018, 02:35:56 AM
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I think everyone can have a chance to rank up; when I read about the new merit system my first thought was "ok, gg, I'll never reach the next rank".. my second thought was "ok, let's try and put some effort on my next posts, let's try to give something to this forum"
I made few posts and I got rewarded; as long as people keep sending sMerits I think it's definitely possible, a lot harder but still possible
That's it. That's the way Merits and sMerits circulate in the merit system, right? With the new system, users might feel hard, just a little bit difficult, to be ranked up, but it is really possible.

Old users seems to feel dissapointed simply and partially because the system launched at the wrong time, at least for their specific cases. However, new users don't care about the time, right? They will start from all zeros, including zero post, zero activity, zero merit score. They have so much time to collect enough activities, merits for themselves.

Let's adapt to merit system.
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January 29, 2018, 02:38:07 AM
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Let's adapt to merit system.

I have a feeling the entire community will, except for US members.   Wink

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The new system of rank up needs some time, to see how it will achieve desired results. We all know that some members want to achieve higher ranks in short period of time with spammy posts. Now some of the users will stop to do that and they will try to make more constructive posts.
It will be hard for us to rank up but it will be extra harder for shitposters to rank up to.
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January 29, 2018, 03:02:30 AM
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I really have no problem with the new system, this encourages us to think more, and to participate more with other people in the forum and soon enough we will get our merits. I just hope that admins will at least decrease the number of merits needed to level up, I guess increments of 20 merits will be fine enough as long as there is only a limit of 1 merit you can receive for like a day or so. The merit system now is somewhat biased though as a person who has a lot of merits can give out 50 merits in one post rather than distributing it to others with such good posts as well, so I guess a limit of 1 merit per person per day would be fair enough. The receiver of the merit is only limited to receive 1 merit per person who merits his post so if he could get 100 persons who likes his post for that day then that is an instant 100 merits for him.

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January 29, 2018, 03:17:12 AM
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I really have no problem with the new system, this encourages us to think more, and to participate more with other people in the forum and soon enough we will get our merits. I just hope that admins will at least decrease the number of merits needed to level up, I guess increments of 20 merits will be fine enough as long as there is only a limit of 1 merit you can receive for like a day or so. The merit system now is somewhat biased though as a person who has a lot of merits can give out 50 merits in one post rather than distributing it to others with such good posts as well, so I guess a limit of 1 merit per person per day would be fair enough. The receiver of the merit is only limited to receive 1 merit per person who merits his post so if he could get 100 persons who likes his post for that day then that is an instant 100 merits for him.
I dont think limit on merits per person per day is a good, appropriate choice. That should depends on the level of quality of each post and, of course, generosity of each merit senders. Let's everything work naturally, human will manage the merit system automatically.

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