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January 28, 2018, 06:57:25 PM
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I'd like to make you aware of an interesting case that i've noticed. A guy is leveling up by spamming, although he's doing it in a "smart" way. He's throwing one of the existing posts into some kind of rephrasing software (probably made to combat anti-plagiarism software that looks for similarities in writing). Words in the given post get substituted with synonyms so that it looks completely different but the meaning remains the same.

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The original:
The relation between the Bitcoin and Economy is very strong. Bitcoin can improve the economy of a single person and also of a country. There are many opportunities with bitcoin for people so that they can earn a good income with bitcoin. Like Working online for the investor and traders of the bitcoin.  working with bitcoin investors make people rich and working with trader give them high idea about the bitcoin too. After that you can also invest and can make trad with bitcoin.

Paraphrased spam:
The connection between the Bitcoin and Economy is extremely solid. Bitcoin can enhance the economy of a solitary individual and furthermore of a nation. There are numerous open doors with bitcoin for individuals so they can acquire a decent wage with bitcoin. Like Working on the web for the speculator and merchants of the bitcoin. working with bitcoin financial specialists make individuals rich and working with broker give them high thought regarding the bitcoin as well. After that you can likewise contribute and can make trad with bitcoin.

The original
Why not?It can be possible to recognized Bitcoin around the world if   everybody legalized it.When BTC was used by everybody no one are poor.
Maybe as of now they know or hear about Bitcoin but lack of information regarding cryptocurrency.And some place has no internet.

Paraphrased
Why not?It can be conceivable to perceived Bitcoin around the globe if everyone legitimized it.When BTC was utilized by everyone nobody are poor.
Perhaps starting at now they know or find out about Bitcoin yet absence of data in regards to cryptocurrency.And some place has no web.

Original
thats good to hear that forex had already decided to accept cryptos on their platform this event could greatly have a big impact to the cryptocurrency economy but not only forex but also some other big companies online like facebook and amazon has also planning to have a partnership with crypto specifically bitcoins but soon they could also add some altcoins like eth as an alternative to bitcoin if ever the fees had sky rocketed again.

Paraphrased
That is great to hear that forex had effectively chosen to acknowledge cryptos on their stage this occasion could extraordinarily have a major effect to the digital money economy yet forex as well as some other huge organizations online like facebook and amazon has likewise wanting to have an association with crypto particularly bitcoins however soon they could likewise include some altcoins like eth as a contrasting option to bitcoin if at any point the expenses had soar once more.

It seems to be working as most people don't notice something like that. It's nice to see spammers are putting so much effort into this. I guess this is what we call an excess of form. Smiley


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January 29, 2018, 12:27:46 PM
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Good find, thanks.

It's nice to see spammers are putting so much effort into this. I guess this is what we call an excess of form. Smiley
Note to spammers: It's easier to simply make good posts  Smiley.

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January 29, 2018, 01:05:14 PM
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How the hell did you find these?
I do not understand why someone should do this now with Merit system...  Huh Huh
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January 29, 2018, 02:58:31 PM
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nice find.

do you have some sort of photographic memory or something??  Grin
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January 29, 2018, 04:22:01 PM
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These sorts of bots aren't that uncommon and have been going on years. In fact, they're probably more prolific than most people realise as they're often very difficult to spot and can go unnoticed for quite some time, especially with the amount of shitposts we have around here where they can easily blend in.

How the hell did you find these?
I do not understand why someone should do this now with Merit system...  Huh Huh

Accounts still have potential ranks and activity will still be valuable so people will just farm them and concentrate on getting the merit points at a later date.

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January 29, 2018, 07:12:38 PM
Last edit: January 29, 2018, 08:57:13 PM by coolcoinz
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How the hell did you find these?
I do not understand why someone should do this now with Merit system...  Huh Huh

nice find.

do you have some sort of photographic memory or something??  Grin

Thanks.
I try to read previous posts in the thread to avoid repeating the same thing over and over. He paraphrased a post from the same page so I started reading his previous posts and found out it wasn't the first time. After a while in the interwebz you get that spider sense tingle when you see bullshit. Grin

Good find, thanks.

No problem. Thanks for so much merit. Merit overload lol.

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January 29, 2018, 08:38:44 PM
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There are like 50 real people on this forum.
Rest are bots  Tongue
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January 29, 2018, 10:29:52 PM
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There are like 50 real people on this forum.
Rest are bots  Tongue

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It is quite apparent in this chat forum that there is a total of 50 genuine users.
The remaining guests and users are automate, no doubt.

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January 29, 2018, 10:53:33 PM
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Holy shit man, that's an impressive find. I was going to write that I'm actually amazed by the amount of effort someone took to come up with these, but then i realized that it's merely a matter of copy-pasting into one of dozens of spinners. On a scale 1-5, 2 for effort, 3 for creativity, 0 for shitposting & an honorary 5 for your eagle eye.
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January 30, 2018, 01:19:02 AM
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yeah! It's excellent paraphrasing. Paraphrasing is not bad, it is also help writers to sharpen their writing skills, particularly with non-native English users. Those sort of intensive efforts they put in paraphrasing also help them to build up their vocabularies. The problem is, if they paraphrased first, then based on those paraphrased paragraph, they expanded or discussed about the original ideas. I am not sure those users mentioned in the OP did that.

Anyway, thanks for your very interesting discoveries, which maybe found by chances.  Shocked
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January 30, 2018, 01:24:44 AM
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It's nice to see spammers are putting so much effort into this. I guess this is what we call an excess of form. Smiley
Note to spammers: It's easier to simply make good posts  Smiley.
I suspect someone is using a bot of some sort to search for posts, and change what they say. I wouldn't be surprised if the spammer doesn't do anything himself after the bot is setup, and account created.

The merit system should do a pretty good job of combating this because these guys probably will not get sufficient merit

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January 30, 2018, 01:50:44 AM
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There are like 50 real people on this forum.
Rest are bots  Tongue

 Grin

It is quite apparent in this chat forum that there is a total of 50 genuine users.
The remaining guests and users are automate, no doubt.

 Tongue Tongue Grin

OMG I see u dude - and I salute u - hahaha!

I'd give you and the OP a sMerit nod - but i don't got none so salutes are all I can offer.

Is the spammer the OP caught out participating in sig campaigns? Cos the merit system (other than restricting the BTT rank level) does nothing to combat the spam/shitposts that will still be valid under sig campaigns rewardable by the projects/icos so yeh... good one BTT Smiley at least you didn't do what facebook did I suppose and just start refusing linkposts in ur effort to kerb spam Smiley big brother is e'rywhere Wink

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January 30, 2018, 02:19:24 AM
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So some users prefer to find synonyms for a few words and the copy paste, then to think for an original post? this seems to be to much work. but peoples are very strange
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January 30, 2018, 02:38:20 AM
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So some users prefer to find synonyms for a few words and the copy paste, then to think for an original post? this seems to be to much work. but peoples are very strange

Spinning software (like The Best Spinner)  was very popular a few years ago as a way to try and fool Google into thinking your website had original content. It doesn't really work well for Google anymore, but I guess someone found another use for the software...

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January 30, 2018, 04:53:31 AM
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Wow! How did you noticed that? You're such a good observer. Shocked. Thanks to you, that spammer will no longer continue his wrong deeds because I'm sure the admins are now taking action regarding this. Cheesy

Honestly, I want to give that spammer a round of applause for what he have done Grin. Who would imagine that he could be able to make spams easily by replacing the words with its synonyms. Whether he used a bot or not, I could say that he is very smart in doing those such things but what he did is wrong after all. (To be clear, I'm not admiring his wrong deeds)   

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January 30, 2018, 05:07:22 AM
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apparently you really photographic memory, read one in one place, and then the content in another, but that the meaning of both messages was the same - this is a rare gift. That's who should be promoted to moderators!
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January 30, 2018, 07:54:02 AM
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It's nice to see spammers are putting so much effort into this. I guess this is what we call an excess of form. Smiley
Note to spammers: It's easier to simply make good posts  Smiley.
I suspect someone is using a bot of some sort to search for posts, and change what they say. I wouldn't be surprised if the spammer doesn't do anything himself after the bot is setup, and account created.



Well that's the whole point of the bots as the owners can just sit back and relax whilst they do all the work for them. They just use a program to automatically change a few words for synonyms which often is a big red flag as posts start to make less sense and stand out more (I've seen them swap bitcoin 'mining' for 'digging' etc.) The real problem here is this account could just be one of hundreds all doing the same.


The merit system should do a pretty good job of combating this because these guys probably will not get sufficient merit

It will help greatly but people will still farm accounts this way then worry about getting merit later (or farm that as well). There will still be a market for accounts with potential rank/activity as well.

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January 30, 2018, 08:18:08 AM
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well, it really looks like a smart bot. Thanks for your careful attention. It is interesting to find these similar posts. maybe farmers and spamers should pay more attentions Grin
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January 30, 2018, 09:26:16 AM
Last edit: January 30, 2018, 09:39:30 AM by iasenko
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I've seen it too, they copy a good comment and just mix it a little. Most of the time is done in the same thread as the original post, if you have the time to read all the comments you can spot many like this.
The smarter ones are pasting them in different threads with similar topic, so you have to be really careful in spotting something like this. I think I have reported already one or two such activities.
Now with the merit system is gonna be easier, just find one of the merit-ed post copy-paste it in different thread and there you go.

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January 30, 2018, 10:38:23 AM
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Whoa! I find it really unfair! For those who are exerting much effort like me to compose such constructive post, can't believe there were bots like that just to gain merit or just to level up their rank. He's so lucid and greedy to accelerate effortless.

If only it's possible for a newbie to give a merit to you OP,  i will. BUT i don't think it's possible. Wink With your effort to find spammers, i really appreciate your endeavor.

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