bustabit – The original crash game

[devans]

A few hours ago an otherwise minor bug caused bustabit's server to crash and bustabit remained offline for approximately three hours. I've deployed a fix for the issue and the game is running normally again now. Sorry for the downtime!

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[Battareus]

as i said before this game rigged when they saw to many players win they update new patch also when btc goes high they update the site so rigged

Yes, I also noticed that when a lot of people play, then the chance to earn less. When playing online kept in the range of 230 players then busts happens higher than 20x, when 280+ it is always less than 10x. Yesterday crashes in less than 10x was more than 50 times in a row, and many who I watched lost a deposit.

[GamblingSiteFinder]

Yesterday crashes in less than 10x was more than 50 times in a row, and many who I watched lost a deposit.

There have been nearly 730 MILLION bets on Bustabit [as of October 26th, 2019]. Over a 50 game sample, you are bound to find some crazy anomalies - some that benefit the player, some that benefit the house. I took a screenshot recently of an 11 game streak of 3.00x+ crashes on Bustabit. Despite the odds of this occurring hovering around ~0.0002%, nobody claimed the site was rigged then.

There are resources available that allow you to verify that each round is fair. To learn more, go to the "FAQ" submenu, then choose "Is the game fair?"

[JollyGood]

@ devans

I would appreciate a reply when you have time

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2897545.msg52875674#msg52875674

[RollTheDice7]

Yesterday crashes in less than 10x was more than 50 times in a row, and many who I watched lost a deposit.

There have been nearly 730 MILLION bets on Bustabit [as of October 26th, 2019]. Over a 50 game sample, you are bound to find some crazy anomalies - some that benefit the player, some that benefit the house. I took a screenshot recently of an 11 game streak of 3.00x+ crashes on Bustabit. Despite the odds of this occurring hovering around ~0.0002%, nobody claimed the site was rigged then.

There are resources available that allow you to verify that each round is fair. To learn more, go to the "FAQ" submenu, then choose "Is the game fair?"

And i have people on telegram saying 14 losses on 2.00x is mathematically impossible lol

[darewaller]

People do not really take math and possibilities into consideration when they are complaining about the results. For example, I recently found out that in 50k bets of 2x on a dice game, you are bound to lose 10 times in a row 20% of the time, did you know that? Numbers could be hazy, I am trying to remember from memory but I know there was this huge unlikely event of losing too many losses in a row at 2x dice games having 20% loss chance.

This means if you play long enough (in this case crash game is playing itself even if you are there or not) that means there will be some unlikely looking things. That was one of the problems with real life poker players moving to online poker, in real life you get maaaybe 100 hands in an hour, probably more like 20 at most, but online you get to play thousands per hour so you get to see quads over flush more frequently of course.

[Ringg]

People do not really take math and possibilities into consideration when they are complaining about the results. For example, I recently found out that in 50k bets of 2x on a dice game, you are bound to lose 10 times in a row 20% of the time, did you know that? Numbers could be hazy, I am trying to remember from memory but I know there was this huge unlikely event of losing too many losses in a row at 2x dice games having 20% loss chance.

This means if you play long enough (in this case crash game is playing itself even if you are there or not) that means there will be some unlikely looking things. That was one of the problems with real life poker players moving to online poker, in real life you get maaaybe 100 hands in an hour, probably more like 20 at most, but online you get to play thousands per hour so you get to see quads over flush more frequently of course.

The odds of losing 10 in a row at a 50/50 chance, is 1 in 1024
If you increase the game count to 50,000, you're bound to see 10 unfavorable outcomes in a row around 50 times.

[DarkStar_]

People do not really take math and possibilities into consideration when they are complaining about the results. For example, I recently found out that in 50k bets of 2x on a dice game, you are bound to lose 10 times in a row 20% of the time, did you know that? Numbers could be hazy, I am trying to remember from memory but I know there was this huge unlikely event of losing too many losses in a row at 2x dice games having 20% loss chance.

This means if you play long enough (in this case crash game is playing itself even if you are there or not) that means there will be some unlikely looking things. That was one of the problems with real life poker players moving to online poker, in real life you get maaaybe 100 hands in an hour, probably more like 20 at most, but online you get to play thousands per hour so you get to see quads over flush more frequently of course.

The odds of losing 10 in a row at a 50/50 chance, is 1 in 1024
If you increase the game count to 50,000, you're bound to see 10 unfavorable outcomes in a row around 50 times.

This is a nice calculator to determine the chance of a losing streak of certain length over a number of games.

[Battareus]

Indeed this game is full random, at first we saw Nyan up to 10000x, then a few hours later there was a moment of huge drawdown of the deposit. But I do not lose hope to develop an algorithm that allows to quickly recover after a drawdown, for example like this:



I have sniped for this user, but my balance was not enough.

[sana54210]

People forget that even though there is a high chance you can lose in this game, there is also a chance to win big as well.
For example, we talked about how 10 in a row is possible 50 times in 50k games right? Well, that means it is possible to hit 10 in a row good ones as well.

Yeah, there could be some people who lose big and win big but that doesn't really mean the game is rigged. It just means that there is possibilities in gambling and this was one of them, that is about it. So, when you see someone making huge profits back to back, that is just possibilities working out for him. This game is not starting when you click roll or something, it happens all the time.

I don't know how many rolls happen on a day here (never counted) but I am sure there is a lot of them which means there will be times when you lose a ton and there will be times someone else wins a ton and neither means this place is rigged.

[Ringg]

I don't understand the people who call BaB rigged.
I don't think most people realize what provable fairness is, and that it serves a very important purpose.
You should have an understanding of how the sites provably fair methodology functions, and verify the games yourself if you're skeptical.
Or like most, ignorantly call it rigged yet continue playing on the site.

[devans]

Today's update introduced a display issue that caused some bets that were actually won to temporarily be shown as lost. Rather than revert to the previous patch version I will keep bustabit offline for a little longer while I fix the issue.

[devans]

The issue has been fixed and bustabit is back online again.

@ devans

I am trying to liaise with victims of the betking scam with the aim of getting UK Police to take a look at a case file that we hope might be enough for them to charge serial scammer Dean Nolan with fraud and then let the Court process take over which would hopefully end with him being jailed and his assets being confiscated only to be sold off to help reimburse victims. If things get that far any payment received might be fully or partial but since he scammed millions of USD$ from investor funds the current approximate amount of $400,000 he owes is tiny.

If enough investors come forward and an attempt is made to get UK Police to investigate, would you like to add 2 BTC to the outstanding claims list? I ask because serial scammer Dean Nolan did not pay you for the licence fee when he added your Crash software without consent, effectively stealing it.

No, I'd rather just continue moving forwards.

[Battareus]

People forget that even though there is a high chance you can lose in this game, there is also a chance to win big as well.
For example, we talked about how 10 in a row is possible 50 times in 50k games right? Well, that means it is possible to hit 10 in a row good ones as well.

Yeah, there could be some people who lose big and win big but that doesn't really mean the game is rigged. It just means that there is possibilities in gambling and this was one of them, that is about it. So, when you see someone making huge profits back to back, that is just possibilities working out for him. This game is not starting when you click roll or something, it happens all the time.

I don't know how many rolls happen on a day here (never counted) but I am sure there is a lot of them which means there will be times when you lose a ton and there will be times someone else wins a ton and neither means this place is rigged.

About 3.33 games per minute, 4800 per day, for those days I’ve been watching, there have never been at least 5 times in a row of 10x, but many times it was when the graph did not reach 2x and crashed 10 times in a row. I don’t argue, there is a chance to win, but only if most of the time you sit and wait for the moment. As soon as you decide to put a large bet on a small cash-out value, there will certainly be a red value that is less than what you thought. Maybe this is a psychological attitude I do not know. In any case, playing is fun enough. The main thing is not to lose your head.

[JollyGood]

@ devans

I am trying to liaise with victims of the betking scam with the aim of getting UK Police to take a look at a case file that we hope might be enough for them to charge serial scammer Dean Nolan with fraud and then let the Court process take over which would hopefully end with him being jailed and his assets being confiscated only to be sold off to help reimburse victims. If things get that far any payment received might be fully or partial but since he scammed millions of USD$ from investor funds the current approximate amount of $400,000 he owes is tiny.

If enough investors come forward and an attempt is made to get UK Police to investigate, would you like to add 2 BTC to the outstanding claims list? I ask because serial scammer Dean Nolan did not pay you for the licence fee when he added your Crash software without consent, effectively stealing it.

No, I'd rather just continue moving forwards.

Sure I understand. I thought you might have those views but I had to ask for clarity.

Thank you

[DarkStar_]

About 3.33 games per minute, 4800 per day, for those days I’ve been watching, there have never been at least 5 times in a row of 10x

Probability to occur in 4.8k games: 4.026%

but many times it was when the graph did not reach 2x and crashed 10 times in a row.

Probability to occur in 4.8k games: 92.361%

Who would have guessed that something with a 92% chance of happening occurs more often than something with a 4% chance. Your inability to do math doesn't make a game rigged/not provably fair.

[Battareus]

booooooi constantly donates to himself, blocking this user does not help, I think that it is necessary to do either to make it impossible to send bits to yourself, or not to see messages of users who are blocked.

[devans]

booooooi constantly donates to himself, blocking this user does not help, I think that it is necessary to do either to make it impossible to send bits to yourself, or not to see messages of users who are blocked.

That's in the spam channel, which is the correct place for spam without a doubt

[jostorres]

I don't understand the people who call BaB rigged.
I don't think most people realize what provable fairness is, and that it serves a very important purpose.
You should have an understanding of how the sites provably fair methodology functions, and verify the games yourself if you're skeptical.
Or like most, ignorantly call it rigged yet continue playing on the site.

That is the trick here, people do not calculate the possibility of something and then they talk about how it could be rigged. When you calculate how many games there is in a single day you would have realized there would be plenty of irregular not suppose to be common stuff happening.

Most people gamble on dice games when it comes to crypto gambling, which means they are basically playing only when they play instead of game playing even without them. So when they come here and see these irregulars they do not realize that there has been thousands of games without them that happened exactly like how it suppose to. This place has 50k bets every 10 days, 150k bets a month on average, of course there are some stuff that is quite rare that happens here either bad or good.

[Battareus]

Hello to the Bitcoin burners. Tell me which command to add to my script. I need the game to start depending on the result of the last bust. For example, start the game when the last bust was not less 40x.