[2018-02-12]Bitmain To Release Ethereum ASIC Miner F3 With 72Gb DDR3 Dram In Q2

[Mattthev]

Using rx 560 chip should be enough to cover 10mh or so. Multiply by 18 i was thinking about 180mh with range 1500-3000 usd and power 18 x 75 watt = 1350 watt. Match up with its PSU Apw3++

IF they bought from amd for $25 per 560 chip, its only $450 for chips.

They can also goes to 580 chip to, 18 x 30 it means 540 mhs. All with 18 x 191 watt = 3438 watt (vga card). With good waver it might push to under 3000 watt so it can match with they old psu Awp5 up to 3200 watt.

580 chip only should around $50-75 so it up to $1350 and $3000 is a good price for this.

The expensive part is memory

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[Marvell2]

this whole thread is hillarious, 72 gb  ddr3 ?! rofl

[isukabtc]

Using rx 560 chip should be enough to cover 10mh or so. Multiply by 18 i was thinking about 180mh with range 1500-3000 usd and power 18 x 75 watt = 1350 watt. Match up with its PSU Apw3++

IF they bought from amd for $25 per 560 chip, its only $450 for chips.

They can also goes to 580 chip to, 18 x 30 it means 540 mhs. All with 18 x 191 watt = 3438 watt (vga card). With good waver it might push to under 3000 watt so it can match with they old psu Awp5 up to 3200 watt.

580 chip only should around $50-75 so it up to $1350 and $3000 is a good price for this.

The expensive part is memory

Agree, a 8gb of VGEN DDR3 almost $80. So let say $10 including memory board, I guess they can have half the price for $5 per 1gb. 72gb should around $360, chip only.

Anyway I bought their products since 2014 and every single product always get me profit 2 times or more from their price (i dont buy v9 lol), so it should be something big 

[BennyT]

Using rx 560 chip should be enough to cover 10mh or so. Multiply by 18 i was thinking about 180mh with range 1500-3000 usd and power 18 x 75 watt = 1350 watt. Match up with its PSU Apw3++

IF they bought from amd for $25 per 560 chip, its only $450 for chips.

They can also goes to 580 chip to, 18 x 30 it means 540 mhs. All with 18 x 191 watt = 3438 watt (vga card). With good waver it might push to under 3000 watt so it can match with they old psu Awp5 up to 3200 watt.

580 chip only should around $50-75 so it up to $1350 and $3000 is a good price for this.

The expensive part is memory

Agree, a 8gb of VGEN DDR3 almost $80. So let say $10 including memory board, I guess they can have half the price for $5 per 1gb. 72gb should around $360, chip only.

Anyway I bought their products since 2014 and every single product always get me profit 2 times or more from their price (i dont buy v9 lol), so it should be something big 

its not the price of DDR3 that we're laughing about... the article was a joke. You can't mine ETH with DDR3 lol

[windmm]

Can people really use ASICs to mine Ethereums?

[Branko]

its not the price of DDR3 that we're laughing about... the article was a joke. You can't mine ETH with DDR3 lol

Of course you can

[Hueristic]

So is ETH POS scheduled for right after all these Asics get dumped?

I wonder how long the burn in period was. Lol

Can people really use ASICs to mine Ethereums?

Any computation can be made into a Asic.

[wtfonly16]

Using rx 560 chip should be enough to cover 10mh or so. Multiply by 18 i was thinking about 180mh with range 1500-3000 usd and power 18 x 75 watt = 1350 watt. Match up with its PSU Apw3++

IF they bought from amd for $25 per 560 chip, its only $450 for chips.

They can also goes to 580 chip to, 18 x 30 it means 540 mhs. All with 18 x 191 watt = 3438 watt (vga card). With good waver it might push to under 3000 watt so it can match with they old psu Awp5 up to 3200 watt.

580 chip only should around $50-75 so it up to $1350 and $3000 is a good price for this.

The expensive part is memory

Agree, a 8gb of VGEN DDR3 almost $80. So let say $10 including memory board, I guess they can have half the price for $5 per 1gb. 72gb should around $360, chip only.

Anyway I bought their products since 2014 and every single product always get me profit 2 times or more from their price (i dont buy v9 lol), so it should be something big 

its not the price of DDR3 that we're laughing about... the article was a joke. You can't mine ETH with DDR3 lol

its an asic...

[dlezama]

So it leaked with name and everything? Months before launch? If I take the A3 as an example, I'd say bitmain knows how to keep things confidential to the last minute.

[phuocduong]

DMM Japan most likely have it already ...
and they are test running it in their farms.

F3 specs..
650MH/s  @  750Watts

 

really?, 650 Mhz, 750w (mine ETH/ETC) .... wow

[michnern]

I'm convinced that half the people posting in here are account farmers;  The amount of low quality posts is astounding.  Some Chinese website posted some speculation and now idiots are already talking about forks and the death of Ethereum. 


Anyone who thinks Bitmain is going to (publicly) release an Eth Miner needs a reality check.  Read the 3rd paragraph in the Mining Centralization section of the Ethereum whitepaper:  https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/White-Paper#mining-centralization  Specifically  the part about poisoning the well.

Thank you for the link.

[GrassBite]

It's already been discussed....contracts are not handled by miners.  That was a conceptual design idea to make it poisonable, but contracts are not handled by miners.  So, there is no way to "poison the well" with a contract.

[michalss]

it is fake... At least it wont be rls in 3 monts.

[bbkoopsta]

it is fake... At least it wont be rls in 3 monts.

Some says Bitmain already figured that out since December 2016 other says in 1st quarter 2017 who knows!

anyway what i wanna say is that the difficulty chart will show if this is true or not

[jstefanop]

Using rx 560 chip should be enough to cover 10mh or so. Multiply by 18 i was thinking about 180mh with range 1500-3000 usd and power 18 x 75 watt = 1350 watt. Match up with its PSU Apw3++

IF they bought from amd for $25 per 560 chip, its only $450 for chips.

They can also goes to 580 chip to, 18 x 30 it means 540 mhs. All with 18 x 191 watt = 3438 watt (vga card). With good waver it might push to under 3000 watt so it can match with they old psu Awp5 up to 3200 watt.

580 chip only should around $50-75 so it up to $1350 and $3000 is a good price for this.

The expensive part is memory

Agree, a 8gb of VGEN DDR3 almost $80. So let say $10 including memory board, I guess they can have half the price for $5 per 1gb. 72gb should around $360, chip only.

Anyway I bought their products since 2014 and every single product always get me profit 2 times or more from their price (i dont buy v9 lol), so it should be something big 

its not the price of DDR3 that we're laughing about... the article was a joke. You can't mine ETH with DDR3 lol

Whats a joke about that? Anyone commenting on the pure engineering/tech of using DDR3 for eth mining has no engineering background and no idea what your talking about if your laughing about it.

Give me 10 mill to develop an eth ASIC core with a 4 channel DDR3 mem controller and it will blow any GDDR5 based GPU out of the water in terms of perf/$ and perf/watt

[Pzdrc]

Wonder what Ethereum developers will do if it turns out to be true? If you develop something specifically to be ASIC resistant, obviously IMHO you don’t want ASICS mining your coin. If someone makes an ASIC anyways, knowing you don’t want them mining your creation, then fork your coin and make their ASICs bricks. They will think twice about doing it again.

You must be a troll correct? Their asics can act like a video card concerning algorithms, even if eth devs change the algorithm, their asics can still mine the algorithm. I advise you trolls get to reality and stop paying $1000 for a rx 580, What got you trolls on this situation are yourselves.

I doubt they would have created an asic for ethash if rx 580 was selling for $180, like it used to be before the bullshit.

LOL... Troll... No.... Opinionated... Yes.... I've worked in I.T. for quite a while, so please elaborate when you say the ASIC can act like a video card??? Never heard of an ASIC capable of doing ANY algorithm because they don't exist. A true ASIC is purpose built to do one specific thing in a very fast and efficient manner... If it can adapt to multiple algos it sounds more like an FPGA to me.

Hello, do you know fpga programming? Can you pm me thank you

[greenfailure]

yup this is pure speculation until an announcement is made. Previously they have kept new ASICs under the radar until release (see the a3, v9, etc.).

While i see the value in them producing an ASIC to mine ETH, its more likely we will see a Decred ASIC followed by better SHA256 ASICs from bitmain this year.

[d2bg]

All articles I've found state around 200-220MH/s for $2500-3000.  So even if they're correct (despite having zero sources), this doesn't sound like some 'GPU-killer'.   You could easily build a 200-220MH/s rig for that price if GPUs were at their original retail cost, and the rig you build will be able to do much more than Ethash and have more resell value.  So if the articles are correct, I welcome this new ASIC.  Maybe it will help ease the GPU crisis.

[pickleburglar]

All articles I've found state around 200-220MH/s for $2500-3000.  So even if they're correct (despite having zero sources), this doesn't sound like some 'GPU-killer'.   You could easily build a 200-220MH/s rig for that price if GPUs were at their original retail cost, and the rig you build will be able to do much more than Ethash and have more resell value.  So if the articles are correct, I welcome this new ASIC.  Maybe it will help ease the GPU crisis.

Thing is though, eth difficulty rise has been held back because of the low availability of GPU's. These things would provide an alternative source of hardware and the difficulty would climb way faster.

[d2bg]

All articles I've found state around 200-220MH/s for $2500-3000.  So even if they're correct (despite having zero sources), this doesn't sound like some 'GPU-killer'.   You could easily build a 200-220MH/s rig for that price if GPUs were at their original retail cost, and the rig you build will be able to do much more than Ethash and have more resell value.  So if the articles are correct, I welcome this new ASIC.  Maybe it will help ease the GPU crisis.

Thing is though, eth difficulty rise has been held back because of the low availability of GPU's. These things would provide an alternative source of hardware and the difficulty would climb way faster.

I think it will still probably be easier to get the parts to build a 220MH/s GPU rig than it would be to get a Bitmain ASIC.  As with all Bitmain products, the ASICs will probably be scooped up by resellers who sell at triple the price, whereas GPUs can still be gotten for maybe a 25% markup if you have nowinstock alerts.  Unless the cost vs hashrate ratio for the ASICs is a massive improvement over GPU rigs, I think Bitmain's usual low availability will be enough to stop the difficulty from spiking too much.

Only time will tell I suppose.