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February 13, 2018, 05:40:21 AM
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I'm not an American, yet I've a big fan of Ron Paul and regularly watch his Youtube/liberty report videos. I support his views on human rights, US foreign policy, CIA espionage etc.

But I've realised that he's a creationist and does not necessarily believe in the separation of the church and the state, which kind of makes it odd.
So I was wondering what other libertarians think about this? Does it worry you that one of the most popular proponents of Libertarianism is a creationist? Or is it OK? What makes a true Libertarian?

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February 13, 2018, 05:55:49 AM
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So I was wondering what other libertarians think about this? Does it worry you that one of the most popular proponents of Libertarianism is a creationist? Or is it OK? What makes a true Libertarian?

One thing that's certain about American politics is that candidates don't stay 100% true to the party platform. So while Ron Paul may be a creationist, Gary Johnson or someone else might be an evolution guy.

Being Libertarian is about being logical, having common sense, not getting swept up in the tradition of things. Libertarians wouldn't make decisions based on creationism or evolution, pro life or pro choice, they'd make the decision that helps lower crime, improve the economy, lower taxes, get people better income, or let people live their lives the way they want to.

Libertarians believe in real freedom of living.

Democrats are hypocrites. Republicans are hypocrites. A wise person once said - "Partisanship makes you stupid." It's so true. If you're beholden to a platform, you're not thinking independently about each issue.

The Libertarian party is the only "formal group" that gets us close to this ideal, but in all honesty being Independent / Unaffiliated is the only true way to engage properly in American politics.
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February 14, 2018, 03:30:13 AM
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So I was wondering what other libertarians think about this? Does it worry you that one of the most popular proponents of Libertarianism is a creationist? Or is it OK? What makes a true Libertarian?

One thing that's certain about American politics is that candidates don't stay 100% true to the party platform. So while Ron Paul may be a creationist, Gary Johnson or someone else might be an evolution guy.

Being Libertarian is about being logical, having common sense, not getting swept up in the tradition of things. Libertarians wouldn't make decisions based on creationism or evolution, pro life or pro choice, they'd make the decision that helps lower crime, improve the economy, lower taxes, get people better income, or let people live their lives the way they want to.

Libertarians believe in real freedom of living.

Democrats are hypocrites. Republicans are hypocrites. A wise person once said - "Partisanship makes you stupid." It's so true. If you're beholden to a platform, you're not thinking independently about each issue.

The Libertarian party is the only "formal group" that gets us close to this ideal, but in all honesty being Independent / Unaffiliated is the only true way to engage properly in American politics.


Thanks! That is a great explanation, although I do feel that not being "pro choice" is antithetical to the idea of freedom. Yet, I agree Libertarians are the least hypocritical of them all.

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February 14, 2018, 03:56:39 AM
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True libertarian will never accept any law, decree or decision made by govt/parliament he haven't voted for!
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