[ANN] [XMV] MoneroV - Fork 1:10 of Monero - Finite coin supply - Private

[bassmaster]

And another one to make the developers rich. People are really fed up with coins that have an automatic coinbase transaction split for developers. Why don't you just prove your capabilities and then raise money afterwards?

That sounds a lot harder than just paying themselves part of every block :-)
As long as users / investors don't care, this kind of crap will continue.

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[b4h4mu7]

Instead of dealing with the toxic dev community at Monero and trying to fix their blunder of turning Bitmonero into "Hashcashnote" (Monero). Why not just contribute to Boolberry?

Boolberry is one of the original CN projects and currently is only $1.50 a coin vs Monero's $250. It's finite coin supply is just over 11m/18.4m BBR emitted vs XMR's 16m/??. The original developer of Boolberry, crypto_zoidberg, is far more competent than any of the XMR core developers. Some believe he is the original author of the CN protocol.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577267.msg8959666#msg8959666

After a 2+ year absence from Boolberry he is now back on the project full time so there's a lot of upside potentional there:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577267.msg31322798#msg31322798

At a fundamental and technical level it is also still superior to Monero.

• The blockchain at 3.6GB is over 90% smaller than Monero at 40GB
  http://www.slideshare.net/boolberry/boolberry-reduces-blockchain-bloat
• Boolberry like Bitcoin is a deflationary currency with a fixed finite supply where as Monero is inflationary with it's infinite coin supply. I'm not sure when it became acceptable to have an inflationary Cryptocurrency when Satoshi's original goal was to limit inflation in the hashcash protocol. In all honesty the MoneroV supporters should just come to Boolberry instead of dealing with the toxic XMR community.
• The unlinkable outputs Zoidberg pioneered that XMR "core" downplayed is providing real privacy protections vs the false sense of security provided by Monero. I've had constructive dialog with the author of the Monero traceability report and he's confirmed with me that Boolberry is a step in the right direction with regards to privacy protection vs Monero. I will take his input as a PhD level researcher over any shill or math student from the Monero camp.
  https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/338.pdf
  https://www.slideshare.net/boolberry/boolberry-solves-cryptonoteflaws-37055246
• Due to it's superior mining algorithm, the transactions are near instant.
  http://boolberry.com/files/Block_Chain_Based_Proof_of_Work.pdf
  Navigate to section 6 of our latest paper:
  https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/1168.pdf
• The GUI wallet that was available in 2014 works better than anything put out by Monero 4 years after the fact

Zoidberg's absence from working on Boolberry full time has created some downsides for the project relative to Monero:

• The lack of an embedded DB solution to lower the memory footprint (Zoidberg is working on this)
• A lack of public awareness (easily resolved with outreach efforts from the team working with Boolberry)
• RingCT: an inefficient system for what it's trying to accomplish (the new BBR system is orders of magnitude more efficient)
• Larger community (something that can be easily addressed when those contributing to Monero make the realization that Boolberry is the better project ran by an actual developer not an internet troll with git access)
• Higher marketcap (something that will be resolved over time as product of active development and outreach)

Although I am now focusing on my own project I know that Boolberry has the potential (for reasons listed above) to replace Monero as the top CN project for 2018. It would make sense for any efforts to "fix" Monero to instead be directed at supporting Boolberry in this effort given that the ratio of 1XMR:250BBR one can have a much larger stake in BBR and contribute to the eventual parity and succession of Boolberry as the leader for CN based privacy.

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/boolberry/
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monero/

[Andre100]

Instead of dealing with the toxic dev community at Monero and trying to fix their blunder of turning Bitmonero into "Hashcashnote" (Monero). Why not just contribute to Boolberry?

answer is simple... MoneroV owner  want on copy\paste code, not do anything make BIG money(as XMR have cost) 

[sud]

Instead of dealing with the toxic dev community at Monero and trying to fix their blunder of turning Bitmonero into "Hashcashnote" (Monero). Why not just contribute to Boolberry?

Boolberry is one of the original CN projects and currently is only $1.50 a coin vs Monero's $250. It's finite coin supply is just over 11m/18.4m BBR emitted vs XMR's 16m/??. The original developer of Boolberry, crypto_zoidberg, is far more competent than any of the XMR core developers. Some believe he is the original author of the CN protocol.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577267.msg8959666#msg8959666

After a 2+ year absence from Boolberry he is now back on the project full time so there's a lot of upside potentional there:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577267.msg31322798#msg31322798

At a fundamental and technical level it is also still superior to Monero.

• The blockchain at 3.6GB is over 90% smaller than Monero at 40GB
  http://www.slideshare.net/boolberry/boolberry-reduces-blockchain-bloat
• Boolberry like Bitcoin is a deflationary currency with a fixed finite supply where as Monero is inflationary with it's infinite coin supply. I'm not sure when it became acceptable to have an inflationary Cryptocurrency when Satoshi's original goal was to limit inflation in the hashcash protocol. In all honesty the MoneroV supporters should just come to Boolberry instead of dealing with the toxic XMR community.
• The unlinkable outputs Zoidberg pioneered that XMR "core" downplayed is providing real privacy protections vs the false sense of security provided by Monero. I've had constructive dialog with the author of the Monero traceability report and he's confirmed with me that Boolberry is a step in the right direction with regards to privacy protection vs Monero. I will take his input as a PhD level researcher over any shill or math student from the Monero camp.
  https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/338.pdf
  https://www.slideshare.net/boolberry/boolberry-solves-cryptonoteflaws-37055246
• Due to it's superior mining algorithm, the transactions are near instant.
  http://boolberry.com/files/Block_Chain_Based_Proof_of_Work.pdf
  Navigate to section 6 of our latest paper:
  https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/1168.pdf
• The GUI wallet that was available in 2014 works better than anything put out by Monero 4 years after the fact

Zoidberg's absence from working on Boolberry full time has created some downsides for the project relative to Monero:

• The lack of an embedded DB solution to lower the memory footprint (Zoidberg is working on this)
• A lack of public awareness (easily resolved with outreach efforts from the team working with Boolberry)
• RingCT: an inefficient system for what it's trying to accomplish (the new BBR system is orders of magnitude more efficient)
• Larger community (something that can be easily addressed when those contributing to Monero make the realization that Boolberry is the better project ran by an actual developer not an internet troll with git access)
• Higher marketcap (something that will be resolved over time as product of active development and outreach)

Although I am now focusing on my own project I know that Boolberry has the potential (for reasons listed above) to replace Monero as the top CN project for 2018. It would make sense for any efforts to "fix" Monero to instead be directed at supporting Boolberry in this effort given that the ratio of 1XMR:250BBR one can have a much larger stake in BBR and contribute to the eventual parity and succession of Boolberry as the leader for CN based privacy.

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/boolberry/
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monero/

Thanks for your detailed post. I had no idea about BBR and you got me interested, so I have no choice but to make some research.

[Mine24-7]

How can I get MoneroV?
Anyone who holds Monero prior to the fork which will occur on block height 1529810 (~14th March 2018) will be an owner of MoneroV and will receive MoneroV coins (XMV) in the rate of 1 XMR = 10 XMV. As an example, if you hold 1 Monero coin (XMR) prior to the fork, you will own 10 MoneroV (XMV) after the fork.

OK.... So.... I bought 100 Monero 9 months ago, then sold them (all 100) 6 months ago, so I held Monero "prior to the fork".

So I will be able to claim 1,000 MoneroV when it's out..... Right?

Or. Does someone need to change the "prior to the fork" to "at the time of the fork"?

[whatsthepoint]

that scammy feeling.

a fork to drive the price of monero down.

[nikisev]

I say lets fork everything.
Money as open source project is a big idea. I think biggest one since invention of money.
To be able to fork project you want to improve is a  huge driving force that will make source project more secure and better tested .Thats what open source is good for.
Ultimately it will be better for technology.
Syncing monero blocks is bloody slow, got to talk to my provider.

[sharad111]

i think best earning moment.
b'coz join the monerov and part of monero.
so all frnds join form and social network and
earn monerov.
this token next future big coin.

[cowh4x0r]

Question: so I have a Monero GUI wallet, can I make another address to get these coins with using the same installation of the GUI? Or do I have to do another one and re sync the whole blockchain to get another wallet.  Thanks!

[air133]

when we see wallet and official mining pool?

[mattcode]

How does a dynamic block size work without tail emission? (spoiler: it doesn't)

I won't even bother to claim my MoneroV.

[bloodest]

Is there any bounty? Is it possible to mine a coin? ? And will there be official mining pool?

[asonganyi]

Is there any bounty? Is it possible to mine a coin? ? And will there be official mining pool?

Yes there are bounties you can join the official telegram https://t.me/joinchat/H4TZNQ98QfDGejxJY0CvhQ and ask from the admins in the group.. you will be able to mine xmv coins some few days after fork on the 14th of march.
There will be an XMV official pool and minergate pool is will also be joining..
Enjoy!!

[Original sin]

I hold XMR in a binance account, will I still receive xmv?

[SheepSuit]

I hold XMR in a binance account, will I still receive xmv?

I don't think many exchanges will support this fork. To be honest, it is not advisable to store large amount of crypto on exchanges

[ingo49]

I'm also waiting for official exchange announcement. XMR is booming right now.
Exchanges should support this as they see it's actually moving the thread.

[Original sin]

so no binance won't recognize  fork and issue me xmv?

[The Godfather]

xmr is perfect coin.. i hope this xmv will pump it a little

[ingo49]

so no binance won't recognize  fork and issue me xmv?

They sid they do not have any official announcements yet.

[The Godfather]

i wonder what will be moneroV price
it future will probably be like bitcoinggold