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September 17, 2013, 11:19:09 AM |
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Hey guys, I think this could be really big, but I am no good at marketing and I can't seem to drive home sells. I am putting both the domain and all the back end up for auction. I spend several days programming the system and I will be more than happy to help the buyer set up the site for themselves. I have uploaded proof of ownership to the site: http://bitscratchers.com/owner.txtI have made about .6 BTC in profit off the site since its launch about a week and a half ago. I have not had any new players in the past few days though. Starting bid is 1 BTC. The auction will end five days from now. (The 22th) |
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b!z
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September 17, 2013, 11:25:18 AM |
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Is it provably fair?
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Sothh (OP)
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September 17, 2013, 11:37:50 AM |
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Is it provably fair?
Provably fair is a big problem. No game is fair as the house always has an edge. The only thing you can prove is the house has the same edge that they say they have. I don't list the house edge as I change it often, and so there is no point in a provably fair system. Its as fair as buying real scratch tickets, which is what I am trying to emulate with the ods. I would be willing to implement a provably fair system if thats what the buyer wants, though I personally do not use one. The buyer will be the one to set their own ods and how "fair" the system is. |
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b!z
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September 17, 2013, 11:56:55 AM |
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Is it provably fair?
Provably fair is a big problem. No game is fair as the house always has an edge. The only thing you can prove is the house has the same edge that they say they have. I don't list the house edge as I change it often, and so there is no point in a provably fair system. Its as fair as buying real scratch tickets, which is what I am trying to emulate with the ods. I would be willing to implement a provably fair system if thats what the buyer wants, though I personally do not use one. The buyer will be the one to set their own ods and how "fair" the system is. Provably fair = proof that the results are not rigged, not proof that odds are 50%. |
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Sothh (OP)
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September 17, 2013, 11:59:01 AM |
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Is it provably fair?
Provably fair is a big problem. No game is fair as the house always has an edge. The only thing you can prove is the house has the same edge that they say they have. I don't list the house edge as I change it often, and so there is no point in a provably fair system. Its as fair as buying real scratch tickets, which is what I am trying to emulate with the ods. I would be willing to implement a provably fair system if thats what the buyer wants, though I personally do not use one. The buyer will be the one to set their own ods and how "fair" the system is. Provably fair = proof that the results are not rigged, not proof that odds are 50%. As in the results are not changed after you purchase? That is trivial to implement. Infact, I will implement that now. |
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Sothh (OP)
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September 17, 2013, 12:59:43 PM |
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Website has been updated with simple provable fairness.
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Baitty
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September 17, 2013, 10:05:20 PM |
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You should add a countdown timer. I'll be watching this.
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BIGMERVE
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September 18, 2013, 05:02:41 AM |
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Ill start the bid at 1.
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dozerz
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September 18, 2013, 11:19:05 AM |
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i will bid if theres a timer.
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space for rent, shilling for sats
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Professor James Moriarty
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September 18, 2013, 11:23:04 AM |
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You could look up at the search for timer, there was a decent one implemented via image posting.
The idea looks good but the execution is not , you made 0.6 from it but decided to sell it for 1 ? If it looks too good to be true , its not.
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Welsh
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September 18, 2013, 11:32:23 AM |
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It's always better to know when the auction is ACTUALLY ending, without extensions etc. Take a look at this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=285166.0 - It will show you how to add a countdown timer. |
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September 18, 2013, 12:23:23 PM |
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You could look up at the search for timer, there was a decent one implemented via image posting.
The idea looks good but the execution is not , you made 0.6 from it but decided to sell it for 1 ? If it looks too good to be true , its not.
i dont know what you're getting at but the site works fine, it just needs marketing and TLC. |
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natbyte
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September 18, 2013, 12:42:04 PM |
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Please add an auction timer, and I will be interested in bidding  |
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Sothh (OP)
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September 18, 2013, 12:51:12 PM |
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I want to add a timer but I am unable to edit my posts. I will message a mod.
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September 18, 2013, 02:03:12 PM |
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I want to add a timer but I am unable to edit my posts. I will message a mod.
You don't have to edit the post just put a timer in a new reply. |
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Welsh
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September 18, 2013, 02:05:22 PM |
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I want to add a timer but I am unable to edit my posts. I will message a mod.
Don't message a mod. Auctions are suppose to be uneditable, they will just tell you to post a new reply. Auctions are suppose to remain unedited to prevent details and promises from being changed. Also, bids etc. |
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Sothh (OP)
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September 18, 2013, 02:09:34 PM |
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Timer removed. End time: 2013-09-22+12:00:00UTC
Time left ^
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dozerz
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September 19, 2013, 01:19:40 PM |
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so 1.1
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September 19, 2013, 03:09:35 PM |
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1.2
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Sothh (OP)
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September 19, 2013, 08:13:59 PM |
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I have received a bid for 1.5 by PM. The bidder wishes to remain anonymous.
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September 20, 2013, 03:23:04 AM |
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1.6
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September 20, 2013, 03:29:55 AM |
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1.6
NVM i cancel my 1.6 bid |
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Sothh (OP)
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September 21, 2013, 06:12:15 PM |
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Less than 24 hours left!
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September 21, 2013, 06:44:38 PM |
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I have received a bid for 1.5 by PM. The bidder wishes to remain anonymous.
I always find these things a bit wary as you could be making it up to bump the price, but I might bid, gotta see how many coins I can spare right now. |
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Sothh (OP)
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September 21, 2013, 06:52:31 PM |
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I have received a bid for 1.5 by PM. The bidder wishes to remain anonymous.
I always find these things a bit wary as you could be making it up to bump the price, but I might bid, gotta see how many coins I can spare right now. I know, that's why I don't like to include them. I can provide proof of the bid though, if anyone wants me to. (With the name blurred out.) |
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Boelens
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September 21, 2013, 06:52:53 PM |
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I just tried out the site about three times, the first two ticket worked fine but the last one isn't working, it's just refrehing every now and then but the payment never comes through. I included a miner fee.
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Sothh (OP)
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September 21, 2013, 07:02:56 PM |
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I just tried out the site about three times, the first two ticket worked fine but the last one isn't working, it's just refrehing every now and then but the payment never comes through. I included a miner fee.
What browser are you using? I checked and all tickets are marked as played. Someone even won a payout. |
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Boelens
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September 21, 2013, 07:05:07 PM |
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I just tried out the site about three times, the first two ticket worked fine but the last one isn't working, it's just refrehing every now and then but the payment never comes through. I included a miner fee.
What browser are you using? I checked and all tickets are marked as played. Someone even won a payout. Yeah, sorry, it works now. I thought it was waiting for the payment to come through, not to confirm. I won my bet back, =P. |
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September 21, 2013, 08:24:52 PM |
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Are you willing to help buyer with domain transfer and moving the site to a new host/taking over hosting so that it can keep running after purchase? Feel free to explain how you see the sale process after payment.
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Boelens
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September 21, 2013, 08:26:13 PM |
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Also, while we're asking questions, how easy would it be to edit certain values? I.e, lower or increase the max and minimum bet.
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Sothh (OP)
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September 21, 2013, 08:36:07 PM |
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Editing values would be extremely easy. You can change all the prizes, max and min prizes, and max and min bets. Its all stored as variables in the PHP backed. It really would be no trouble at all.
Yes, I will help with transfer and make sure the site is 100% working for the new provider. Once the site is sold I will arrange to have the domain transferred to the new provider and help them set up all the code on the new host. I will also keep the site running until we are done with the transfer, and the owner will receive any profits made during this time.
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Boelens
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September 21, 2013, 09:59:08 PM |
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Interesting. I might be able to gather some funds soon (I'd need funds for the bankroll too), so I might offer, however I'm not sure if it'll be in time. Good luck to whoever might get it!
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September 22, 2013, 01:56:36 AM |
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I have received a bid for 1.5 by PM. The bidder wishes to remain anonymous.
I always find these things a bit wary as you could be making it up to bump the price, but I might bid, gotta see how many coins I can spare right now. I know, that's why I don't like to include them. I can provide proof of the bid though, if anyone wants me to. (With the name blurred out.) I'd like some proof too, not that I don't trust you. |
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b!z
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September 22, 2013, 03:45:29 AM |
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I have received a bid for 1.5 by PM. The bidder wishes to remain anonymous.
I always find these things a bit wary as you could be making it up to bump the price, but I might bid, gotta see how many coins I can spare right now. I know, that's why I don't like to include them. I can provide proof of the bid though, if anyone wants me to. (With the name blurred out.) I'd like some proof too, not that I don't trust you. Screenshots can easily be faked. |
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SaltySpitoon
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Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
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September 22, 2013, 12:02:02 PM |
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1.6 BTC if I didn't miss the end.
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Sothh (OP)
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September 22, 2013, 02:01:09 PM |
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Auction ended. Sorry Salty, but it ended at a few hours before your bid.
The site has sold to an anonymous buyer. I am contacting him/her and if it falls through I will sell to SaltySpitoon.
Thanks all.
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SaltySpitoon
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Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
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September 22, 2013, 03:33:58 PM |
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Auction ended. Sorry Salty, but it ended at a few hours before your bid.
The site has sold to an anonymous buyer. I am contacting him/her and if it falls through I will sell to SaltySpitoon.
Thanks all.
Alrighty, sounds good. It ended 2 minutes before my bid didn't it? Turns out my alarm clock is a few minutes slow  |
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prophetx
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he who has the gold makes the rules
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September 22, 2013, 03:38:08 PM |
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bummer wish i had seen this auction earlier
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