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February 16, 2018, 04:27:32 AM
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   I think the existence of bitcoin, and other cryptocurrencies, reveals the true nature of money which we had long forgotten or never really had the right idea about. Money, as defined by the Webster's 9th New Collegiate Dictionary, is something generally accepted as a meduim of exchage, a measure of value, or a means of payment. Practically, though, that "something" is a concrete object, not just a mere idea. Thus, money is subject to depreciation - as seen in the decline of value via inflation and similar situations. In this sense, the standard value of money doesn't seem so standard at all and it won't be much of a "generally accepted" medium of exchage. This is where bitcoin is more of a real money than the physical money itself.  We don't control it's value, unless everyone - really, EVERYONE, at least those who use it - agrees so.
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February 16, 2018, 05:26:45 AM
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   I think the existence of bitcoin, and other cryptocurrencies, reveals the true nature of money which we had long forgotten or never really had the right idea about. Money, as defined by the Webster's 9th New Collegiate Dictionary, is something generally accepted as a meduim of exchage, a measure of value, or a means of payment. Practically, though, that "something" is a concrete object, not just a mere idea. Thus, money is subject to depreciation - as seen in the decline of value via inflation and similar situations. In this sense, the standard value of money doesn't seem so standard at all and it won't be much of a "generally accepted" medium of exchage. This is where bitcoin is more of a real money than the physical money itself.  We don't control it's value, unless everyone - really, EVERYONE, at least those who use it - agrees so.

For me , money is something that you earn or been recieve because you do something that has equal worth on it. Fiat money and digital currency is both far from being a money, because we can recieve a value that we are not worth with.
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February 16, 2018, 06:36:11 AM
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Bitcoin is the real money and those who have this currency they can use it for monetary transaction SO Bitcoin is the real money and we are the users of this money and now we can say that bitcoin is trading in the world for making profit the money features is full satisfied by the bitcoin so we can say that bitcoin is the real money for this time.

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February 16, 2018, 07:19:00 AM
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for me, no one can replace real money, and bitcoin is alternative money, for transaction without limit, across country, bitcoin is the best choices, but not all transaction can be handle by bitcoin, need more time to make bitcoin more than real money

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February 16, 2018, 07:31:39 AM
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Bitcoin is actually more money than every form of money and we should not look at what the financial experts are saying by calling bitcoin a bubble or scam but we should see the reality of were bitcoin stand. For something to serve as a medium of exchange for goods and services it must be durable and trusted and that is were bitcoin come in.Bitcoin is the future of money and as a future of money we should learn on how to used it and also teach others people about it and we would see bitcoin will be generally accepted.
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February 16, 2018, 09:45:33 AM
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   I think the existence of bitcoin, and other cryptocurrencies, reveals the true nature of money which we had long forgotten or never really had the right idea about. Money, as defined by the Webster's 9th New Collegiate Dictionary, is something generally accepted as a meduim of exchage, a measure of value, or a means of payment. Practically, though, that "something" is a concrete object, not just a mere idea. Thus, money is subject to depreciation - as seen in the decline of value via inflation and similar situations. In this sense, the standard value of money doesn't seem so standard at all and it won't be much of a "generally accepted" medium of exchage. This is where bitcoin is more of a real money than the physical money itself.  We don't control it's value, unless everyone - really, EVERYONE, at least those who use it - agrees so.

nah bitcoin is a digital currency that we know bitcoin is not just money or assets alone with bitcoin can be political and all kinds because bitcoin is the only money that can not be controlled by the government or the richest man in this world, this is purely from the demand and enthusiasts.
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February 21, 2018, 07:18:53 AM
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Real(fiat) money depreciates over time, unlike bitcoin, but at the same time provides their liquidity and protection against counterfeiting by the country that issued them.
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February 21, 2018, 07:35:07 AM
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Money is a form of currency. Currency can be defied as money in any form when in actual use or circulation as a medium of exchange, especially banknotes and coins.
I think cryptocurrencies definitely cover part of that definition and by name are suited to being called currency/money. I’m unsure how it can be considered ‘more real’ than actual money. That’s like saying garlic bread is ‘more real’ than actual bread. It’s just a different variation.
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February 21, 2018, 07:51:40 AM
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   I think the existence of bitcoin, and other cryptocurrencies, reveals the true nature of money which we had long forgotten or never really had the right idea about. Money, as defined by the Webster's 9th New Collegiate Dictionary, is something generally accepted as a meduim of exchage, a measure of value, or a means of payment. Practically, though, that "something" is a concrete object, not just a mere idea. Thus, money is subject to depreciation - as seen in the decline of value via inflation and similar situations. In this sense, the standard value of money doesn't seem so standard at all and it won't be much of a "generally accepted" medium of exchage. This is where bitcoin is more of a real money than the physical money itself.  We don't control it's value, unless everyone - really, EVERYONE, at least those who use it - agrees so.
Yes it is more money than itself because  the value of bitcoin  don't control  anyone

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February 21, 2018, 08:15:56 AM
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Real(fiat) money depreciates over time, unlike bitcoin, but at the same time provides their liquidity and protection against counterfeiting by the country that issued them.
That's actually far, far away from the truth.
If you could look through some fat history books, you could clearly notice who is responsible for majority of money counterfeiting.
Urban legends tell the tale of brave and fearless money forgers and yet the story is usually much simpler, much more disgusting and terrifying. Those legendary fakers are highly trained specialists, with pre-made tools, machines, matrices, props, ramrods  etc.
Only one group could have access to such scarce equipment, special forces. Those usually work on the command of governments.
What is the best way to increase the amount of money in circulation, without rising the inflation? Smiley By the usage of controlled, professional counterfeiters, cloaked as regular criminals... 
In short, Gov. gives no protection against forgery.
 

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February 21, 2018, 09:35:25 AM
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Both currencies to me are real money in their own capacity based on their users at any point in time. Money is actually any medium that is generally acceptable as a means of payment for goods and services rendered in the country of operate. The only difference between them is that Bitcoin is an anonymous[abstract in nature] on line Digital currency, though restricted/limited to the number of people that actually believes in it. However, the feasible/physical paper money itself can only be accepted as a legal tender within their country of originality. The two of them uses forms of exchange to deal with the outside wall. 
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July 07, 2018, 05:58:06 PM
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It can not be said now that bitcoin is more than real money. Because bitcoin's price changes. Its price is all about trust.
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July 07, 2018, 07:10:19 PM
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Bitcoin is still expensive, but maybe soon everything will change.
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July 07, 2018, 09:50:35 PM
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I think Bitcoin is not real money. I think Bitcoin is electronic gold. Bitcoin is a type of asset that can make a profit from rising prices. and gold also have similar features
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July 07, 2018, 10:25:17 PM
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   I think the existence of bitcoin, and other cryptocurrencies, reveals the true nature of money which we had long forgotten or never really had the right idea about. Money, as defined by the Webster's 9th New Collegiate Dictionary, is something generally accepted as a meduim of exchage, a measure of value, or a means of payment. Practically, though, that "something" is a concrete object, not just a mere idea. Thus, money is subject to depreciation - as seen in the decline of value via inflation and similar situations. In this sense, the standard value of money doesn't seem so standard at all and it won't be much of a "generally accepted" medium of exchage. This is where bitcoin is more of a real money than the physical money itself.  We don't control it's value, unless everyone - really, EVERYONE, at least those who use it - agrees so.

Bitcoin is only digital figure a number of integrals,that can be used for trading ,thats why this is not a real money,its only digital number,that can be used for exchange  or to barter other kinds of currency,otherwise it is disame purpose to money in the exchange trading ,but in phsical form,money is opaque while bitcoin is transparent,because its compose only of integral numbers.

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July 09, 2018, 01:20:54 AM
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There isn't really anything that can be classified as "real money".

I feel like that you're referring to fiat currency when you talk about bitcoin being superior than 'real money'. Fiat currency is only one type of currency, so it definitely can't be classified as "money itself" or "real money" at all.

In fact, if we follow the definition that money needs to be a store of value in the long run, bitcoin is a much better form of money than fiat is as we know that fiat is centralised and tend to lose value in the long run due to currency debasement.

I myself very much would rather hold bitcoin as a store of wealth in the long run, than fiat. That's the simple truth. But obviously the short term usages of bitcoin is limited at the moment, coupled along with the fact that adoption is low (and awareness) means that right now, people still use fiat for most of their day to day transactions, even though bitcoin can be considered to be a better form of money and store of value.
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July 09, 2018, 02:19:35 AM
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Bitcoin is the real money and those who have this currency they can use it for monetary transaction SO Bitcoin is the real money and we are the users of this money and now we can say that bitcoin is trading in the world for making profit the money features is full satisfied by the bitcoin so we can say that bitcoin is the real money for this time.
Bitcoin works as real money because it is been using even for payment system to those establishment that accept bitcoin and mostly on online. It can be a real money which we are using everyday even the price is not that stable. Most people now earning bitcoin and claim to get a salary in the form of bitcoin also.

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for me, no one can replace real money, and bitcoin is alternative money, for transaction without limit, across country, bitcoin is the best choices, but not all transaction can be handle by bitcoin, need more time to make bitcoin more than real money
In fact its ability to be transferred transcontinental makes it an awesome technology and innovation. This true value makes it have some money qualities and features. If Bitcoins adoption increases some more, we'll actually appreciate its value better.

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July 20, 2018, 03:50:39 PM
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The amount of bitcoin generated by the miners they worked on and the technology used to generate the bitcoin bitcoin is limited when the charge is very fast, unlike currency or paper money.
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July 20, 2018, 05:41:29 PM
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No, real money is fiat, bitcoin is a digital currency and can be used for transactions but bitcoin does not become real money because its value is constantly changing.
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July 20, 2018, 06:12:20 PM
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It can not be said now that bitcoin is more than real money. Because bitcoin's price changes. Its price is all about trust.

Bitcoin price changes and that price movement is not all about trust but it just shows how the investors or trades move their crypto currencies. Bitcoin cannot be a real money, it is decentralized, also, it said that it is a measure of a value. Bitcoin price is usually USD depending on your country but the value of Fiats are never measured using Bitcoin.

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July 20, 2018, 06:13:48 PM
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The definition of money for me is something that has value in itself and can be used and exchanged easily without restrictions or conditions.
Based on this definition, gold is real money and other metals that have values such as silver and diamonds.
Bitcoin cannot be considered real money but at least money because you can buy/sell it and have a value "But its value is earned and not real", which is better than the rest of the paper money, such as the dollar

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Bitcoin is just like normal money as it can be substituted for paper money in certain situations. The mere difference is that you cannot hold it physically like the bank or government issued notes.
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July 20, 2018, 06:28:23 PM
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Yes. Bitcoin is more of a real money and it is the currency of the future. The digital money like Bitcoin is going to drive the economy in future and this will transform the paper currency in to a most secured, speed and valuable digital currency in the world. I think in another few years the economy will be driven by digital currency like Bitcoin and the per capita income will be rocketing like anything.

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July 20, 2018, 06:35:22 PM
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Sorry but i don't really agree with you. If we want to use that kind of definition to compare, then of course fiat really defines real money better.
Why? Because as medium of exchange, of course fiat is more common and used, unlike bitcoin. We barely able to use bitcoin as a medium of exchange. And also, as payment, fiat is better although we can't deny that in this modern era bitcoin surely has the potential.
And also the value, although bitcoin is so valuable, but it's risky and fluctuate a lot. Unlike fiat that's more stable and dependable. That's just my opinion though.

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July 20, 2018, 06:56:54 PM
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Money is just money because someone wanted to create it, but money is not something solid, we consider "paper money" as money because the stereotipes are saying it so, by the way, bitcoin is also the same, only that in digital form.
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   I think the existence of bitcoin, and other cryptocurrencies, reveals the true nature of money which we had long forgotten or never really had the right idea about. Money, as defined by the Webster's 9th New Collegiate Dictionary, is something generally accepted as a meduim of exchage, a measure of value, or a means of payment. Practically, though, that "something" is a concrete object, not just a mere idea. Thus, money is subject to depreciation - as seen in the decline of value via inflation and similar situations. In this sense, the standard value of money doesn't seem so standard at all and it won't be much of a "generally accepted" medium of exchage. This is where bitcoin is more of a real money than the physical money itself.  We don't control it's value, unless everyone - really, EVERYONE, at least those who use it - agrees so.
Yes bitcoin is more of a real money which is totally free from inflation which actually seems to be a dream in other prevailing currencies.

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July 21, 2018, 02:00:33 AM
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Yes, i consider that bitcoin is real money and the only difference with fiat money is that bitcoin is volatile and unpredictable currency while fiat is more of a stable currency. However, the pros for btc is that it is progressing compared to fiat and btc is also used as a payment system for transaction.
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Bitcoins and crypto currencies are really the ideal money because it's free from oppression, third party tracking, exploit and from debts most importantly it's secured unlike banks that can be easily hack/breach. That's why institutional investors, bankers and governments hates it because it's a better version of fiat currency and should be the ideal type of money.

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July 21, 2018, 03:11:28 AM
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Bitcoins and crypto currencies are really the ideal money because it's free from oppression, third party tracking, exploit and from debts most importantly it's secured unlike banks that can be easily hack/breach. That's why institutional investors, bankers and governments hates it because it's a better version of fiat currency and should be the ideal type of money.
indeed as you explain, but for now the government is still looking for policies to legalize. and i think the legalization of the world's most important, before being used for transactions in all areas
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   I think the existence of bitcoin, and other cryptocurrencies, reveals the true nature of money which we had long forgotten or never really had the right idea about. Money, as defined by the Webster's 9th New Collegiate Dictionary, is something generally accepted as a meduim of exchage, a measure of value, or a means of payment. Practically, though, that "something" is a concrete object, not just a mere idea. Thus, money is subject to depreciation - as seen in the decline of value via inflation and similar situations. In this sense, the standard value of money doesn't seem so standard at all and it won't be much of a "generally accepted" medium of exchage. This is where bitcoin is more of a real money than the physical money itself.  We don't control it's value, unless everyone - really, EVERYONE, at least those who use it - agrees so.

Bitcoins today is considered as an asset because you can use cryptocurrency to purchase any products in any online stores that is accepting a cryptocurrency payment method.
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August 07, 2018, 11:38:25 AM
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According to my assumption, Bitcoin is not a real money, it's alternative currency.
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August 07, 2018, 12:54:31 PM
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According to my assumption, Bitcoin is not a real money, it's alternative currency.

For me bitcoin is more on an asset than a money itself. It is an investment, like other long lasting investment. That we can trust.
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For the future may be bitcoin will be the real main money in digital money.in era digital bitcoin is more simple for future
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August 07, 2018, 02:34:38 PM
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what now around the world is called money has long been not imim. the whole world economy took as a basis the dollar and was very cruelly mistaken. Bitcoin can be a viable alternative if governments do not actively interfere with its development

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August 07, 2018, 03:52:47 PM
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In bitcoin, even more meaning than in the dollar. at least because the emission is controlled by market participants themselves. Traditional currencies lose people's trust because of the protracted economic crisis.
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August 07, 2018, 05:47:31 PM
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This is very logical and symbol that man you need to be a mediator between good that you propose and that you receive, is not a barter system but it is like the middle point between two owners of good or service. Bravo!
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August 07, 2018, 11:15:51 PM
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are not. Bitcoin is not real money. It is a digital currency. Bitcoin deals globally. Bitcoin prices depend on the supply and demand rules.
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August 08, 2018, 01:37:13 AM
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Yes. Bitcoin is more of a real money and it is the currency of the future. The digital money like Bitcoin is going to drive the economy in future and this will transform the paper currency in to a most secured, speed and valuable digital currency in the world. I think in another few years the economy will be driven by digital currency like Bitcoin and the per capita income will be rocketing like anything.
That may also happen but the reality is not applicable. Since electronic money is still new, getting people as well as the community takes time. Electronic money only serves online transactions and transactions in remote places. With cash used to trade live everyday, what it can do is continue to flow the economy. Actually these two currencies need to exist in parallel, they can not replace each other.

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For those who have felt it is very real, every time we want to try, there must be a change ...

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It can not be said now that bitcoin is more than real money. Because bitcoin's price changes. Its price is all about trust.

Bitcoin price changes and that price movement is not all about trust but it just shows how the investors or trades move their crypto currencies. Bitcoin cannot be a real money, it is decentralized, also, it said that it is a measure of a value. Bitcoin price is usually USD depending on your country but the value of Fiats are never measured using Bitcoin.
Bitcoin has a very fast or volatile price change. which means it will be very difficult to use as a currency or method of payment
because it might cause losses on both sides. but that doesn't mean bitcoin isn't money. only the use is difficult
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i think bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies included e-money. and you can use them for shopping or investment

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If we based of prices Bitcoin has a big advantage than real money,Yes I agree that very hard to speculate Bitcoin price movement because of its volatility but the big advantage of Bitcoin in terms of payments transaction you can pay it easy less hassle.

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The current fiat currency problem is that the government is in control of both the amount of currency and the interest rate. As a result, as the history shows, the value of the fiat currency continues to decrease. As one candidate for the future currency, there is BITCOIN. As people trust it and the place where it can be used increases, it will become popular.
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Well, in my opinion it's not a currency, not money, but a digital assets, but yes, it will be more of a real money and it is the currency of the future. The digital money like Bitcoin is going to drive the economy in future and this will transform the paper currency in to a most secured, speed and valuable digital currency in the world. I think in another few years the economy will be driven by digital currency like Bitcoin and the per capita income will be rocketing like anything.
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