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September 17, 2013, 09:53:24 PM
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Whoever owns 1CfsAiYaVfk12dnZpZALcRSP9jjWDk26FX - Your software is terribly broken and paying out massive transaction fees.  Over 100 BTC in the last 24 hours as best I can estimate, and a lot of it is going to pools that pay transaction fees to miners meaning there isn't an option to just ask for the money to be sent back.

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September 17, 2013, 10:02:18 PM
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Whoever owns 1CfsAiYaVfk12dnZpZALcRSP9jjWDk26FX - Your software is terribly broken and paying out massive transaction fees.  Over 100 BTC in the last 24 hours as best I can estimate, and a lot of it is going to pools that pay transaction fees to miners meaning there isn't an option to just ask for the money to be sent back.

Wow. Hopefully this person sees this post. How on earth did you stumble on this?

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September 17, 2013, 10:06:34 PM
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Ouch - an 80.98 btc transaction fee

http://blockchain.info/tx/258478e8b7a3b78301661e78b4f93a792af878b545442498065ab272eaacf035

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September 17, 2013, 10:14:14 PM
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its satoshi himself! noble guy.

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September 17, 2013, 10:31:58 PM
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Whoever owns 1CfsAiYaVfk12dnZpZALcRSP9jjWDk26FX - Your software is terribly broken and paying out massive transaction fees.  Over 100 BTC in the last 24 hours as best I can estimate, and a lot of it is going to pools that pay transaction fees to miners meaning there isn't an option to just ask for the money to be sent back.

Wow. Hopefully this person sees this post. How on earth did you stumble on this?

I stumbled on it when someone in #btcguild told me the pool just hit a 106 BTC block.  The pool is nearly all PPLNS which is immediately credited for blocks including txfees so it's not something I can just refund like the pool has done in the past (used to be 50% or less of the pool on PPLNS, now it's closer to 5%).

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September 17, 2013, 11:13:58 PM
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Total Members inputs:  $ 10,241.50
Fees:  $10,239.92

I want in on some of that action.
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September 18, 2013, 12:18:33 AM
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Send a small amount of coin to the address in OP using blockchain.info with a message attached.
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September 18, 2013, 12:22:38 AM
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um, it was actually http://blockchain.info/address/1LtjWsKsrr2RweDLAmv75oGL7tjVF4wx7W that the 80 btc originated from.

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September 18, 2013, 12:29:14 AM
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BTC guild solved that block. so they get 81BTC in fee's and the 25BTC reward.. thats a nice 106BTC to share out for 17 minutes work

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September 18, 2013, 12:30:51 AM
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BTC guild solved that block. so they get 81BTC in fee's and the 25BTC reward.. thats a nice 106BTC to share out

yeah, they didn't share that shit. guaranfuckinteeya

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September 18, 2013, 12:34:26 AM
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BTC guild solved that block. so they get 81BTC in fee's and the 25BTC reward.. thats a nice 106BTC to share out

yeah, they didn't share that shit. guaranfuckinteeya


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September 18, 2013, 04:02:56 AM
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Oh. My. Satoshi.  Shocked
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September 18, 2013, 04:31:00 AM
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September 18, 2013, 05:49:34 AM
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its satoshi himself! noble guy.
Maybe...
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September 18, 2013, 05:54:49 AM
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Thanks for the concern, guys.  I've just been feeling generous.
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September 18, 2013, 07:20:53 AM
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Thanks for the concern, guys.  I've just been feeling generous.


hmmm. can i bum some o yo coins money bags Cheesy i got my eye on one of the VMC asics though i'll never be able to afford it rofl

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http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1mlofh/someone_just_paid_over_10000_for_a_single/
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Or some mining companies did this terrible thing?

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September 18, 2013, 09:53:08 AM
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More transactions with high fees (0.5 - 1.5 BTC) have been made from that address have been made in the past hours...

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September 18, 2013, 12:17:36 PM
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Ouch...

http://blockchain.info/charts/transaction-fees
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um, it was actually http://blockchain.info/address/1LtjWsKsrr2RweDLAmv75oGL7tjVF4wx7W that the 80 btc originated from.

Looks like a number of these from there: 1LtjWsKsrr2RweDLAmv75oGL7tjVF4wx7W

http://blockchain.info/tx/867a28f204f3cf8bf0bcb999d75a8a69b9bd4b0cde655a5f5d9486deec0182c7 <-- Fees   80 BTC to send 0.01115003 BTC
http://blockchain.info/tx/3b2da02b5178e0cb5be8afe76ba8e5fd3a6c028a430daeba1e5c225108c22e24 <--Fees   1 BTC to send 0.00655596 BTC
http://blockchain.info/tx/a93da143a1a7aac2ddc32b1c0201a56e9397a2e71b5431c5bfc19c8655d234d8 <-- Fees   50 BTC to send 0.014112 BTC
http://blockchain.info/tx/258478e8b7a3b78301661e78b4f93a792af878b545442498065ab272eaacf035 <-- Fees   80.98 BTC to send 0.01252199 BTC

Possibly missing an output?

http://blockchain.info/charts/transaction-fees

Also many 1 BTC fees paid by 1FiQi9r7HbU9hvPo7Zr6p2ar8i4vedkH4q on transactions to 1CfsAiYaVfk12dnZpZALcRSP9jjWDk26FX



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September 18, 2013, 12:27:28 PM
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Most expensive money laundering scheme ever lol
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September 18, 2013, 12:55:15 PM
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25+ BTC in excessive fees in the past 7 hours.

Excessive fees in the past 7 hours associated with 1CfsAiYaVfk12dnZpZALcRSP9jjWDk26FX have come from the following 6 addresses:

13wTPZNYxdgnNDzFV48vbePTPXXHzFTKYo (fees 0.05 BTC)
1FcxZKPQHa4GHJMLCta5CUPUeZ5uMoZrop (fees 3 BTC)
1FiQi9r7HbU9hvPo7Zr6p2ar8i4vedkH4q (fees 11 BTC)
1Jzm2J6D8UgiLiy8PwwJ2kvgo4N5PGop3J (fees 6 BTC)
1KfbHRiUCSHk8poq6wPYsvBtRzj9Ah4so (fees 0.1 BTC)
1Yw6NrfcK51TZrKsGJ1vnjzSAygXTBH3C (fees 4.5 BTC)

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25+ BTC in excessive fees in the past 7 hours.

Excessive fees in the past 7 hours associated with 1CfsAiYaVfk12dnZpZALcRSP9jjWDk26FX have come from the following 6 addresses:

13wTPZNYxdgnNDzFV48vbePTPXXHzFTKYo (fees 0.05 BTC)
1FcxZKPQHa4GHJMLCta5CUPUeZ5uMoZrop (fees 3 BTC)
1FiQi9r7HbU9hvPo7Zr6p2ar8i4vedkH4q (fees 11 BTC)
1Jzm2J6D8UgiLiy8PwwJ2kvgo4N5PGop3J (fees 6 BTC)
1KfbHRiUCSHk8poq6wPYsvBtRzj9Ah4so (fees 0.1 BTC)
1Yw6NrfcK51TZrKsGJ1vnjzSAygXTBH3C (fees 4.5 BTC)
If anyone has some free time, what is the approximate(or total) loss of the person? And perhaps he intended to send the higher amount to the receiver while the lower amount as fees.

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25+ BTC in excessive fees in the past 7 hours.

Excessive fees in the past 7 hours associated with 1CfsAiYaVfk12dnZpZALcRSP9jjWDk26FX have come from the following 6 addresses:

13wTPZNYxdgnNDzFV48vbePTPXXHzFTKYo (fees 0.05 BTC)
1FcxZKPQHa4GHJMLCta5CUPUeZ5uMoZrop (fees 3 BTC)
1FiQi9r7HbU9hvPo7Zr6p2ar8i4vedkH4q (fees 11 BTC)
1Jzm2J6D8UgiLiy8PwwJ2kvgo4N5PGop3J (fees 6 BTC)
1KfbHRiUCSHk8poq6wPYsvBtRzj9Ah4so (fees 0.1 BTC)
1Yw6NrfcK51TZrKsGJ1vnjzSAygXTBH3C (fees 4.5 BTC)
If anyone has some free time, what is the approximate(or total) loss of the person? And perhaps he intended to send the higher amount to the receiver while the lower amount as fees.

A couple hundred BTC, maybe close to 300 from the last few days.

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In the past 24 hours there have been 274+ BTC paid in excessive fees in 113 transactions that were sent from 1CfsAiYaVfk12dnZpZALcRSP9jjWDk26FX to 1CfsAiYaVfk12dnZpZALcRSP9jjWDk26FX.

The funds for those fees came from the following addresses:

211.98000000 BTC from 1LtjWsKsrr2RweDLAmv75oGL7tjVF4wx7W (4 transactions)
027.00000000 BTC from 1FiQi9r7HbU9hvPo7Zr6p2ar8i4vedkH4q (27 transactions)
013.50000000 BTC from 1Jzm2J6D8UgiLiy8PwwJ2kvgo4N5PGop3J (25 transactions)
010.50000000 BTC from 1Yw6NrfcK51TZrKsGJ1vnjzSAygXTBH3C  (21 transactions)
007.50000000 BTC from 1FcxZKPQHa4GHJMLCta5CUPUeZ5uMoZrop (15 transactions)
001.00000000 BTC from 136HXn9arcB7C3DfBMGtrL9t8kAL5SetEs (1 transaction)
000.95000000 BTC from 1Ja1TNwaDq8u8Y9hEZjy857d6q2oBJqDZk (1 transaction)
000.59980522 BTC from 1DM5ZRkHJQYXoCBNQXWwXKym9R7qQfiHAm (2 transactions)
000.40000000 BTC from 1KfbHRiUCSHk8poq6wPYsvBtRzj9Ah4so  (2 transactions)
000.23000000 BTC from 1E7PcVFZwgVSD8pRz5MWBmU8U2eHQAfr2D (2 transactions)
000.14000000 BTC from 142CP4VYhtzYHAPFzkc35pTbw4zA2tAFAe (3 transactions)
000.10800000 BTC from 1GPisvm4XHxh8KPrfTorVcmLJHNZRaUNhx (1 transaction)
000.05674729 BTC from 1CPzkE7rCFm1pg5qvw7NwsG8oFgXphgEx9 (1 transaction)
000.05000000 BTC from 13wTPZNYxdgnNDzFV48vbePTPXXHzFTKYo (1 transaction)
000.05000000 BTC from 154YLBg2iqE7MXnAhgsNtJqNTamtmDBWLJ (1 transaction)
000.05000000 BTC from 1PX3EKeuLJKL7VjPZUbSbPoYZonRjKphzw (1 transaction)
000.03000000 BTC from 113itCZYfXjcXcoUB8EqF7stBYzP4L2ZBr (1 transaction)
000.03000000 BTC from 1Es8zMxRM2e9YuPKbHYxhne3AoxPAgdApM (1 transaction)
000.01000000 BTC from 1GTF2LxcQAvtcTtFhvDiGaugPA6CxDgCin (1 transaction)
000.01000000 BTC from 15KbGT9fzNivAr7kjtYF1fMxKCTvRRkZjY (1 transaction)
000.00500000 BTC from 1JpPMTEa2RprvHEsUpcEKwtHn5HBT4htVN (1 transaction)
000.00300000 BTC from 1LTBg8Hxyt8DFshdjXbfmH8d2YGQmwyQuT (1 transaction)

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September 18, 2013, 03:06:30 PM
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I suspect an early adopter is upset about the poor mining profitability and is contributing a few of his coins to help out the situation

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I suspect an early adopter is upset about the poor mining profitability and is contributing a few of his coins to help out the situation

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Tracing the transactions back through the blockchain, it REALLY looks like a mixing service (A very broken mixing service).

Eventually the operator of the mixing service is going to discover that they don't have enough funds to send to all their clients (I suppose a Ponzi/Pyramid like effect might keep it going for a while).  When that happens, there are going to be some VERY unhappy people who have lost the funds that they've sent to this mixing service.

If I had more time on my hands, it would be an interesting project to try and identify all the addresses owned/controlled by the service, and see what funds are coming in or going out.

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September 18, 2013, 03:57:28 PM
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funny.
I sent 0.0001BTC to 1LtjWsKsrr2RweDLAmv75oGL7tjVF4wx7W http://blockchain.info/ru/tx/e8a595958d112be604e4db1ba88d34fc73ba675c2c3b8d3dc5d27cdc0588ebcc
and someone sent me back 0.0000546BTC http://blockchain.info/ru/tx/9a5bc95c5f17f5b1ff048075b8d9cdfa97cd8fde6b7bd5ececcff2ee833a5f35
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September 18, 2013, 04:00:52 PM
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I suspect an early adopter is upset about the poor mining profitability and is contributing a few of his coins to help out the situation

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Tracing the transactions back through the blockchain, it REALLY looks like a mixing service (A very broken mixing service).

Eventually the operator of the mixing service is going to discover that they don't have enough funds to send to all their clients (I suppose a Ponzi/Pyramid like effect might keep it going for a while).  When that happens, there are going to be some VERY unhappy people who have lost the funds that they've sent to this mixing service.

If I had more time on my hands, it would be an interesting project to try and identify all the addresses owned/controlled by the service, and see what funds are coming in or going out.

I was thinking exactly the same, also wishing I were less busy though at US$30K per day in losses, it could make sense to clear the day for this.

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September 18, 2013, 07:35:54 PM
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gambeling site?
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September 18, 2013, 10:25:32 PM
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this is clearly some kind of virus, it will spread and "suck in" (redistribute) all your coins! the end is near! sell  Grin
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this is clearly some kind of virus, it will spread and "suck in" (redistribute) all your coins! the end is near! sell  Grin

Virus infected the Bitcoin client?  Smiley

I'm curious if this is related to an earlier case, when a transaction was also accompanied by a large sum of fees. Fortunately that block was mined by ASICMINER and the fees were returned to the original issuer.
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September 19, 2013, 03:04:18 PM
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still hasn't stopped Huh

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Holy shit!, What is this and why is it still happening!?

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25+ BTC in excessive fees in the past 7 hours.

Excessive fees in the past 7 hours associated with 1CfsAiYaVfk12dnZpZALcRSP9jjWDk26FX have come from the following 6 addresses:

13wTPZNYattorneyGeneralsOfficexdgnNDzFV48vbePTPXXHzFTKYo (fees 0.05 BTC)
1FincenxZKPQHa4GHJMLCta5CUPUeZ5uMoZrop (fees 3 BTC)
1FinCENQi9r7HbU9hvPo7Zr6p2ar8i4vedkH4q (fees 11 BTC)
1JzmoneyTransmitter2J6D8UgiLiy8PwwJ2kvgo4N5PGop3J (fees 6 BTC)
1KfbiHRiUCSHk8poq6wPYsvBtRzj9Ah4so (fees 0.1 BTC)
1Yolow6NrfcK51TZrKsGJ1vnjzSAygXTBH3C (fees 4.5 BTC)

FYP
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September 19, 2013, 09:45:33 PM
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FYP

Huh

I don't get it.

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FYP= Fixed your post

Added info to your post, I quoted.  Its a jab at humor.  Smiley
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September 19, 2013, 09:55:11 PM
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FYP= Fixed your post

I'm aware.  (although I typically use FTFY)

Added info to your post, I quoted.

I noticed.

Its a jab at humor.  Smiley

I figured it was an attempt at humor, but like I said:

I don't get it.

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I am a bad comedian...confirmed ITT
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I am a bad comedian...confirmed ITT
Was that another attempt?

No...now I don't get it ;(
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http://www.acronymfinder.com/In-This-Thread-(forums)-(ITT).html

IRL no one has this problem Smiley

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Dude has apparently decided to stop being a dude....  I'd love to know the story here.
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Until I saw that the block was mined by a pool that pays out transaction fees I thought this would be somebody trying to hide transactions from network analysis.

You can mine a block containing transactions you haven't broadcast. So you can keep your own transaction fees, effectively transferring arbitrary sums to addresses where no actual transactions exist between sender and recipient.

There are plenty of miners with sufficient hashing power to solo mine and get a block every now and then.

blockchain.info seems to ignore transaction fees in its taint analysis. Are there any network analysis tools that treat mining fees as transactions?
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Raw transactions are awesome!

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Until I saw that the block was mined by a pool that pays out transaction fees I thought this would be somebody trying to hide transactions from network analysis.

You can mine a block containing transactions you haven't broadcast. So you can keep your own transaction fees, effectively transferring arbitrary sums to addresses where no actual transactions exist between sender and recipient.

There are plenty of miners with sufficient hashing power to solo mine and get a block every now and then.

blockchain.info seems to ignore transaction fees in its taint analysis. Are there any network analysis tools that treat mining fees as transactions?
Oh, Neat! i hadn't even thought of that possibility!

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Until I saw that the block was mined by a pool that pays out transaction fees I thought this would be somebody trying to hide transactions from network analysis.

You can mine a block containing transactions you haven't broadcast. So you can keep your own transaction fees, effectively transferring arbitrary sums to addresses where no actual transactions exist between sender and recipient.

There are plenty of miners with sufficient hashing power to solo mine and get a block every now and then.

blockchain.info seems to ignore transaction fees in its taint analysis. Are there any network analysis tools that treat mining fees as transactions?

Unfortunately trying to do that would basically add taint to the vast majority of the network.  A block generation transaction is a single output of the subsidy+tx fees with no input.  So you couldn't trace it back through inputs, you'd have to basically consider every single transaction from the block an input if it had a fee, which would be extremely messy.  Additionally, you couldn't tell the difference between the subsidy and the txfee, so anything that was ever sent through that block's coin generation is now tainted.

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September 20, 2013, 11:23:30 PM
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25+ BTC in excessive fees in the past 7 hours.

Excessive fees in the past 7 hours associated with 1CfsAiYaVfk12dnZpZALcRSP9jjWDk26FX have come from the following 6 addresses:

13wTPZNYattorneyGeneralsOfficexdgnNDzFV48vbePTPXXHzFTKYo (fees 0.05 BTC)
1FincenxZKPQHa4GHJMLCta5CUPUeZ5uMoZrop (fees 3 BTC)
1FinCENQi9r7HbU9hvPo7Zr6p2ar8i4vedkH4q (fees 11 BTC)
1JzmoneyTransmitter2J6D8UgiLiy8PwwJ2kvgo4N5PGop3J (fees 6 BTC)
1KfbiHRiUCSHk8poq6wPYsvBtRzj9Ah4so (fees 0.1 BTC)
1Yolow6NrfcK51TZrKsGJ1vnjzSAygXTBH3C (fees 4.5 BTC)

FYP

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25+ BTC in excessive fees in the past 7 hours.

Excessive fees in the past 7 hours associated with 1CfsAiYaVfk12dnZpZALcRSP9jjWDk26FX have come from the following 6 addresses:

13wTPZNYattorneyGeneralsOfficexdgnNDzFV48vbePTPXXHzFTKYo (fees 0.05 BTC)
1FincenxZKPQHa4GHJMLCta5CUPUeZ5uMoZrop (fees 3 BTC)
1FinCENQi9r7HbU9hvPo7Zr6p2ar8i4vedkH4q (fees 11 BTC)
1JzmoneyTransmitter2J6D8UgiLiy8PwwJ2kvgo4N5PGop3J (fees 6 BTC)
1KfbiHRiUCSHk8poq6wPYsvBtRzj9Ah4so (fees 0.1 BTC)
1Yolow6NrfcK51TZrKsGJ1vnjzSAygXTBH3C (fees 4.5 BTC)

FYP

I lawled.

Glad someone laughed Wink
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September 21, 2013, 06:06:57 AM
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Most expensive money laundering scheme ever lol

Why would you launder money with BTC when txs are visible in the blockchain? Even with mixers there are better ways for people to hide their money.
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Most expensive money laundering scheme ever lol

Why would you launder money with BTC when txs are visible in the blockchain? Even with mixers there are better ways for people to hide their money.

It wasn't literal.....
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September 21, 2013, 08:39:23 PM
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i think someone was messing with raw transactions to do a send many.. and got confused between transaction amount to second person... and transaction fee.

i cant see why anyone would throw that amount away, valued at thousands of FIAT for no good reason

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Was this a genuine bug in the person's software?
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Was this a genuine bug in the person's software?

Probably experimenting with raw outputs and made a few mistakes and sent a lot of transactions on accident.

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Poor fellah. Sucky.

Was this a genuine bug in the person's software?

Probably experimenting with raw outputs and made a few mistakes and sent a lot of transactions on accident.
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Someone just donated a lot of money.  Smiley

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Someone just donated a lot of money.  Smiley

The thread is 6 months old for gods sake
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Not sure why that matters. This is still an interesting discussion, particularly since people have replied to my original "awakening" of it. This includes your own comment Smiley.

Someone just donated a lot of money.  Smiley

The thread is 6 months old for gods sake

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1CfsAiYaVfk12dnZpZALcRSP9jjWDk26FX, you fail.
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