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February 16, 2018, 08:58:41 PM
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Of all the large companies that are now large internet players, do anyone particularly scare you in terms of how you data and track could be used? Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, …?
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Of all the large companies that are now large internet players, do anyone particularly scare you in terms of how you data and track could be used? Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, …?


I think Facebook is the most evidently intrusive. They monitor all of your online activity pretty much and then shape your thoughts and such with targeted advertising. There will come a time in the future when the world decides it needs to take a step back from such intrusion in to their personal lives.

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The Internet knows where your cat lives. Using the hidden meta-data about the geographic location of where the photo was taken which we share when we publish photos of our cats on sites like Instagram and other social media networks.
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February 17, 2018, 03:37:58 AM
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Of all the large companies that are now large internet players, do anyone particularly scare you in terms of how you data and track could be used? Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, …?

For now I have not felt with the company is frightening, in fact with the company I find it helpful to find friends who have long lost contact. But in the future it could be a company can be frightening, because our information has been input by them, such as email, and our home address.
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February 17, 2018, 04:09:33 AM
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Of all the large companies that are now large internet players, do anyone particularly scare you in terms of how you data and track could be used? Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, …?


Social sites are the most invasive sites as they harvest all your data and sell these data to advertisers. The place you live, your likes, your friends, the type of food you like, the things you do not like. These are all used for advertisers to market products to you. Social sites sell all the information about you. So as a user, I am careful about what i share.

For shopping sites like amazon, their intentions are about understanding what products you like. They do not harvest your private information, they track my preference in products and then market similar products to me. In this sense, they are helpful as they help me to discover new products.

Notice the differences in the two? So be careful about what you share online. Our digital identity is a precious commodity but most just get sold by social media sites without our knowledge.

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I think Facebook is the most evidently intrusive. They monitor all of your online activity pretty much and then shape your thoughts and such with targeted advertising.

If you're that easy to manipulate and a few ads can shape your "thoughts" even billboards are dangerous for you.
The problem might not be the website, but the user behind monitor.

The Internet knows where your cat lives. Using the hidden meta-data about the geographic location of where the photo was taken which we share when we publish photos of our cats on sites like Instagram and other social media networks.

And? If it ever gets lost, that might be helpful when you need to find it.

Of all the large companies that are now large internet players, do anyone particularly scare you in terms of how you data and track could be used? Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, …?

None. And, what can they do with that data? They can print it and wipe their........
Sometime people get paranoid. FB has my data....what can they do with it?





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If you're that easy to manipulate and a few ads can shape your "thoughts" even billboards are dangerous for you.
The problem might not be the website, but the user behind monitor.

You must have heard about this article right where facebook was doing experiments on manipulating emotions. We have to accept the fact that not everybody in the world has the same level of smarts and common sense. Their are a lot of emotionally unstable, emotional fools out there. That doesn't mean that the intrusion by ad companies is answerable by the individual himself.

And? If it ever gets lost, that might be helpful when you need to find it.

Sound good when its just the cat. Not so much when the state decides to infringe on your activities because you are becoming a thorn by the side, say like an activist journalist. They know everything about you and your behavior pattern, places you visit etc. Its not so hard to imagine such data being used to demolish political opponents or even activists.

None. And, what can they do with that data? They can print it and wipe their........
Sometime people get paranoid. FB has my data....what can they do with it?

I don't think its so simplistic. Normal people like you and me gradually become part of this machinery that determines how the world runs. When the people in power no everything and monitor everyone, their are subtle ways that information can be used to their advantage without anybody noticing. Maybe facebook doesn't want your data. But having all of it stored in their servers is a potential mine from where patterns can be derived.
You may call it paranoid but the level of false information that is being fed to reinforce viewpoints is undeniable. This is being made possible by targeted delivery of news and ads. You only ever see the things that their "algorithm" thinks will gain the most clicks form you or the most view time. You surrender yourself as a consumer because you only ever see what they show you. Where is the chance to expand your horizons and make mistakes then.
So, One really shouldn't brush off privacy concerns. They affect all of us and have far reaching consequences.
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February 17, 2018, 09:51:03 AM
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I'm surprised that nobody mentioned the colourful monolith, all knowing uncle, the great cards dealer, advertising croupier etc. etc, google.
Latest days where quite saturated with news regarding this giant being able to record and store all our voice commands.
Check this out if you missed it somehow, it is always voluntary but enabled by default, so it is possible to "stop this service" but... service as a part of the android system is still there and running.
And how many other instances of our data collection (unfortunately still voluntary) are there? Most of googles services require us to have some sort of additional sensors enabled, I can only imagine, how much data they posses daily on one single individual. If this isn't scary, idk what is.

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You must have heard about this article right where facebook was doing experiments on manipulating emotions. We have to accept the fact that not everybody in the world has the same level of smarts and common sense. Their are a lot of emotionally unstable, emotional fools out there. That doesn't mean that the intrusion by ad companies is answerable by the individual himself.

Also we must accept that there are a lot of easy to manipulate morons who will make the wrong choices.
Hitler was voted by 30% of the Germans, and Stalin would have won fair and square every election.
And this was way before Trump and whatever happened there.


Sound good when its just the cat. Not so much when the state decides to infringe on your activities because you are becoming a thorn by the side, say like an activist journalist. They know everything about you and your behavior pattern, places you visit etc. Its not so hard to imagine such data being used to demolish political opponents or even activists.

The state is elected by you and me.
If you vote into power people that are going to abuse power, then the fact that your cat is a youtube star is your last problem.
I come from a former communist country ,i f the government wants to enforce something, they will do this without the help of social media.
20 tanks rolling in the streets will make you rethink what's most important in life.

You talk about treating cancer rather that preventing it.

I don't think its so simplistic. Normal people like you and me gradually become part of this machinery that determines how the world runs. When the people in power no everything and monitor everyone, their are subtle ways that information can be used to their advantage without anybody noticing. Maybe facebook doesn't want your data. But having all of it stored in their servers is a potential mine from where patterns can be derived.
You may call it paranoid but the level of false information that is being fed to reinforce viewpoints is undeniable. This is being made possible by targeted delivery of news and ads. You only ever see the things that their "algorithm" thinks will gain the most clicks form you or the most view time. You surrender yourself as a consumer because you only ever see what they show you. Where is the chance to expand your horizons and make mistakes then.
So, One really shouldn't brush off privacy concerns. They affect all of us and have far reaching consequences.

Just as I said above.
If you allow people that are going to abuse power to reach positions of power you are the only one to blame.
Not showing your taste in cars or food on social media won't solve the problem, nor will laws about your privacy.
Prevent the situation, don't try to solve problems that shouldn't be there in the first place.

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February 17, 2018, 10:07:53 AM
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It's really crazy what is going on with facebook on data scratching.

I have seen some experiments that people were talking about something, with their phone on sleep mode, and soon after that when they logged in into their facebook account, they found out that they are getting offered advertisements about the same thing that they were talking about.
For an example, if they were talking about a trip to the USA, they received advertisements from trip advisors.
It should be illegal, what if I will talk with someone about something that I don't want anybody to know, would facebook still process my data?
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February 17, 2018, 10:14:08 AM
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Of all the large companies that are now large internet players, do anyone particularly scare you in terms of how you data and track could be used? Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, …?


I think Facebook is the most evidently intrusive. They monitor all of your online activity pretty much and then shape your thoughts and such with targeted advertising. There will come a time in the future when the world decides it needs to take a step back from such intrusion in to their personal lives.

I think it's Google. We are using much more of their services and they cross-compile a Big Data by that.

People can live without Facebook (like me, I don't use it), but it's very hard to avoid all Google services and work online.

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February 17, 2018, 10:21:09 AM
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Of all the large companies that are now large internet players, do anyone particularly scare you in terms of how you data and track could be used? Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, …?

i see facebook dont trust with all cryptocurrency mr zuckerberg the ceo or the founder of facebook dont want cryptocurrency i think thats why they ban all advertisement in their website thats why some of our facebook bounty are deleted.
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I think amazon is a little bit scary since it has your credit card information. Honestly, all online stores are sketchy since you will have a tendency to think their legitimacy and their possibilities of money laundering.

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Of all the large companies that are now large internet players, do anyone particularly scare you in terms of how you data and track could be used? Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, …?

i see facebook dont trust with all cryptocurrency mr zuckerberg the ceo or the founder of facebook dont want cryptocurrency i think thats why they ban all advertisement in their website thats why some of our facebook bounty are deleted.

Its not that he is not trusting it but there are just scam ICO who's using their advertising tools just to scam people that's why maybe Mr.Zuckerberg implements that altcoin Ads banning law to their site since maybe they doesn't want to get blame by the authorities if their are huge scam leakage will come on future.

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We know facebook is more dangerous than others, all data about you can be used by "unidentified organizations", to track and spy on your activities.

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Of all the large companies that are now large internet players, do anyone particularly scare you in terms of how you data and track could be used? Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, …?


Of all, Google is the most scary. I have never used Amazon, and could avoid using Twitter or Facebook but for Google I don't think there is a way around it. The moment you have a smart phone you are just entangled especially if you're just a basic users and not bothered about staying anonymous on the internet. From the use of Google chrome where sites you visited are used to determine the type of advert you get to see, the apps you downloaded from play store having to grant access to everything on your phone before you can use it, to the synchronisation of all your gadgets.

The most of it is the location deactivation which is more like a dummy because even after putting it off, its still active, to the ability of phone speaker to listen in to conversation you think you are having privately.
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February 17, 2018, 01:16:14 PM
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Amazon has a service called Amazon Key, which basically is a system that opens the doors for an in-home delivery of packages. Aside from malicious intent of the delivery guy, it's a system that will likely get bypassed at some point, and the tool needed for that will then be sold to everyone interested, mostly thieves. Not in a hundred years will I allow that stuff to be installed in my house. I rather keep picking up packages at the local postal office than 'enjoying' a bit of convenience that might turn out to be nothing but a problem. In most cases people make fun of their grand parents for not being techie, or not having a smartphone and computer, but with everything that's going on, they are the only people with actual privacy. So who's laughing now? Wink
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February 17, 2018, 01:22:22 PM
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Of all the large companies that are now large internet players, do anyone particularly scare you in terms of how you data and track could be used? Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, …?


Most of the time people are intertwined with the internet, so our privacy is compromised with this technology. What scare me the most with this ever growing evolution of technology is that it always able to monitor our daily online activities that seemed to be private. But there is nothing we can do to stop this evolution because as i said earlier, we are intertwined with the internet. We have to live with it especially now that bitcoin caught up with this technology.

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February 17, 2018, 01:34:17 PM
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I guess they have to hire ITs which are more expert in keeping data and connections, a fully secured system that has been implemented in your company. In good terms, large-scale companies rarely hacked by hackers itself due to high expertise in technology. There’s nothing to be scared about if we were guided by our professionally inclined Technicians Smiley
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February 17, 2018, 01:52:04 PM
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Even this internet companies know everything I don't think you have fear this things don't do anything but those people who take advantage of our technology  its not what things might do to you we person created this and we have the responsibility if what is the fruit of our doing s

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