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July 18, 2011, 03:07:40 PM
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its done i've sent the claim... now we have to wait

i'm not the owner of the bitcoin system... hope i dont get in trouble because of it (if satoshi arrives: "he it's my record")
i hope they're enough intelligent, that they dont give the record to me. its for the bitcoin community!

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July 18, 2011, 07:30:02 PM
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a world record would give bitcoin a push! normal people will realize how big bitcoin already is!


it made me think, too. "Most powerful distributed computing network in the world." - Yummy!

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July 18, 2011, 07:37:09 PM
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well let us file for it then . who should do that ? Satoshi or andreson ? umm maybe me ! Cheesy

I know a lawyer in New York who's probably already filed for the record.  Undecided

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July 18, 2011, 08:19:39 PM
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its done i've sent the claim... now we have to wait

i'm not the owner of the bitcoin system... hope i dont get in trouble because of it (if satoshi arrives: "he it's my record")
i hope they're enough intelligent, that they dont give the record to me. its for the bitcoin community!

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July 18, 2011, 08:36:35 PM
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Seems to me that the bitcoin network is doing integer operations, not floating point.  So what's the relevance of FLOPS?

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July 19, 2011, 08:10:19 AM
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Seems to me that the bitcoin network is doing integer operations, not floating point.  So what's the relevance of FLOPS?
We're well aware of that (as you surely noticed while reading this thread). The FLOPs measure is not applicable to hashing per se, but you can estimate the FLOPs potential of the Bitcoin network based on the approximate hardware making up the hashing power.

Since the folding@home people have their own way of measuring their computational power which makes it hard to compare it with the Bitcoin network it's probably the best we can do.
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July 19, 2011, 07:12:11 PM
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I wrote an email to Nils Schneider.
he said:
"The fundamental problem is, that bitcoin does not use floating point
operations. What you can do is: Pretend that the same hardware was build
to do FLOPs instead of INTOPs and then you would get about 153 PetaFLOPs."

it's larger than we thought. I will tell this argument guinness world record if we dont get the record the first time...
if they negatiate too, we can make an own record with hashs!




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July 20, 2011, 01:11:04 PM
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I believe whatever calculation method they will approve Bitcoin will be the highest PFLOP single project present on earth.

I think I will file (too) if no one here said clearly he filed for it.
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July 20, 2011, 01:30:06 PM
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I believe whatever calculation method they will approve Bitcoin will be the highest PFLOP single project present on earth.

I think I will file (too) if no one here said clearly he filed for it.
i have already requested the record, i'll tell you everything, if i've got news.
but the free request takes 4-6 weeks until first response...

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July 23, 2011, 06:22:35 PM
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you can estimate the FLOPs potential of the Bitcoin network based on the approximate hardware making up the hashing power.

That would be good if there was some way of getting a rough idea of the hardware making up the hashing power.  Do we have anything better than guessing at the moment?  I don't think any peer on the network even reports that it is hashing unless it solves a block, let alone having to identify the hardware it is using.

I think the only way we can estimate the total hashrate of the network as a whole is to look at the rate that blocks are solved relative to the current difficulty.  Is that right?

Do we have any idea what percentage of the network's hashing power is made up of ASICs which have no floating point capability at all?

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August 10, 2011, 05:55:07 AM
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Got news from Guinnes world records:

MOST POWERFUL DISTRIBUTED COMPUTING NETWORK
DEFINITION OF RECORD
This is for the most powerful distributed computing network.
It must be measured in petaFLOPS and floating point operations per second.

GUIDELINES FOR ‘MOST POWERFUL DISTRIBUTED COMPUTING NETWORK’
1. For the purposes of this record, a distributed computing network consist of
clients and servers connected in such a way that any system can potentially
communicate with any other system.

2. The capacity of the distributed computing network must be tested using
appropriate means.

3. The exact measurements of the distributed computing network must be given in
petaFLOPS and floating point operations per second.

4. An expert witness, independent of the computing network, must attest to the
computing power.

5. Two (2) independent witnesses must attest to the computing power.

6. Any other relevant information must be included in the cover letter or evidence
package.

GENERAL ‘MOST POWERFUL DISTRIBUTED COMPUTING’ NETWORK
GUIDELINES

§ The name of the organisation, company or person(s) making the attempt must
be given, along with the date and place.

§ Failure to include the required documentation will ultimately delay the outcome
of your claim or lead to its rejection.


-> How can i fix or demonstrate them all these points?

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August 10, 2011, 06:18:29 AM
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§ The name of the organisation, company or person(s) making the attempt must
be given, along with the date and place.

Is there even a valid answer for that with somthing decentralized like Bitcoin?

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August 10, 2011, 10:59:21 AM
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§ The name of the organisation, company or person(s) making the attempt must
be given, along with the date and place.

Is there even a valid answer for that with somthing decentralized like Bitcoin?

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August 10, 2011, 11:23:10 AM
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Organisation:Bitcoin.org
People: Inhabitants all over the world?

How did the folding@home people fill that in then?

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August 10, 2011, 11:46:21 AM
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This would be awesome. Please keep us updated.

4. An expert witness, independent of the computing network, must attest to the
computing power.

5. Two (2) independent witnesses must attest to the computing power.

I wonder what would be considered "independent". I'd guess anyone who's not mining.

Also, "expert" is another vague one.

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August 10, 2011, 12:10:35 PM
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Getting this would be awesome, and would immortalize bitcoin.

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GUIDELINES FOR ‘MOST POWERFUL DISTRIBUTED COMPUTING NETWORK’
1. For the purposes of this record, a distributed computing network consist of
clients and servers connected in such a way that any system can potentially
communicate with any other system.

The mining nodes do this by uploading and downloading blocks to/from each other. Any transaction that one node receives will be communicated to every other node. Any node that finds a block meeting the proof of work conditions will have their block communicated to every other node.

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2. The capacity of the distributed computing network must be tested using
appropriate means.

The average time it takes to find blocks at a particular level of difficulty measures the capacity.

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3. The exact measurements of the distributed computing network must be given in
petaFLOPS and floating point operations per second.

I'm not sure how this can be done.

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4. An expert witness, independent of the computing network, must attest to the
computing power.

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5. Two (2) independent witnesses must attest to the computing power.

I'm sure we can find two expert witnesses.

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6. Any other relevant information must be included in the cover letter or evidence
package.

GENERAL ‘MOST POWERFUL DISTRIBUTED COMPUTING’ NETWORK
GUIDELINES

§ The name of the organisation, company or person(s) making the attempt must
be given, along with the date and place.

Gavin would be the most official person in the bitcoin project. "Lead developer for the bitcoin open source project".
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August 10, 2011, 12:44:32 PM
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well let us file for it then . who should do that ? Satoshi or andreson ? umm maybe me ! Cheesy

I know a lawyer in New York who's probably already filed for the record.  Undecided

heh... 

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August 10, 2011, 01:25:45 PM
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3. The exact measurements of the distributed computing network must be given in
petaFLOPS and floating point operations per second.

The speed of the bitcoin network, measured in FLOPS, is exactly zero.

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August 10, 2011, 03:04:05 PM
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3. The exact measurements of the distributed computing network must be given in
petaFLOPS and floating point operations per second.

Can we just say the miners are using floating point operations involving 1.0000000, 2.000000, 3.0000000 and so on? Cheesy

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August 10, 2011, 05:32:15 PM
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3. The exact measurements of the distributed computing network must be given in
petaFLOPS and floating point operations per second.

The speed of the bitcoin network, measured in FLOPS, is exactly zero.

That is not exactly true. Most bitcoin software, including bitcoincharts.com does some incidental Floating-point calculations for display purposes.

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