[ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated]

[JoTheKhan]

No one was bullying a new poster. Me and VE just were trying to make sure they guy understood that his information was incorrect. We were quickly able to help him along as he was looking for AsicMiner and not Active Mining.

I do not waste time on this thread bullying potential investors as I think they are good for the company and for my share price.

[zumzero]

Maybe not you...

No bitching on this thread will result in anything productive or positive, so chill.

No misinformation on this thread will result in anything productive or positive.
So read, and don't post.    I've told you this before on your Jasun account.

You've made him run and hide 

[VolanicEruptor]

oh shutup zumzero you were supposed to retire from this thread.  Yet here you are stinking shit up again

[zumzero]

Please don't bully me. 

[knybe]

here's something fun to discuss:
(oops if it's off topic)

and copy and paste

"I've done a bit of blockchain exploring.

The block in question where all the bitcoin days were destroyed is this one:

https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000048445e1220a78e53de15c74160ffbe4dad0b52099560e045f

About 120,000 btc were moved. There are many transactions in this block in the 4,500-5,000 btc range. I followed the source addresses back in time. The ones I've looked at all trace their heritage to this monstrous transaction from 27 January 2011:

https://blockchain.info/tx/8f8210694d3631a88ff410c573d80caf57db1d8af397bd47687aa4e4c1802464

A single transaction moved 400,000 btc to a single address; this one:

https://blockchain.info/address/1AYtnRppWM7tWQaVLpm7TvcHKrjKxgCRvX

So whoever made the transaction yesterday had 400,000 btc in a single address in 2011. If it isn't Satoshi, who the hell is it?

Note that that 1AY... address had some transactions on 26 November this year; shortly before the ATH on 28 November. A huge whale, perhaps the biggest single holder of btc in existence, is stirring. The question is, why?

EDIT: 400,000 btc in early 2011 was almost 10% of all btc in existence. In a single address. Wow."

[damiano]

here's something fun to discuss:
(oops if it's off topic)

and copy and paste

"I've done a bit of blockchain exploring.

The block in question where all the bitcoin days were destroyed is this one:

https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000048445e1220a78e53de15c74160ffbe4dad0b52099560e045f

About 120,000 btc were moved. There are many transactions in this block in the 4,500-5,000 btc range. I followed the source addresses back in time. The ones I've looked at all trace their heritage to this monstrous transaction from 27 January 2011:

https://blockchain.info/tx/8f8210694d3631a88ff410c573d80caf57db1d8af397bd47687aa4e4c1802464

A single transaction moved 400,000 btc to a single address; this one:

https://blockchain.info/address/1AYtnRppWM7tWQaVLpm7TvcHKrjKxgCRvX

So whoever made the transaction yesterday had 400,000 btc in a single address in 2011. If it isn't Satoshi, who the hell is it?

Note that that 1AY... address had some transactions on 26 November this year; shortly before the ATH on 28 November. A huge whale, perhaps the biggest single holder of btc in existence, is stirring. The question is, why?

EDIT: 400,000 btc in early 2011 was almost 10% of all btc in existence. In a single address. Wow."

I saw that earlier and my first thought was satoshi as well.

[zumzero]

Our backdated divs?

[bryan567]

Our backdated divs?

HA!! made me chuckle, thanks. Wouldn't that be nice.

Anyone have any info on this "Canadianguy" who claims to have a vmc miner on this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=206488.260 ? Is he lying? This would be huge if we could confirm that miners are being shipped. Any insight on this?

[EskimoBob]

Yawn.. do any of you fuckwits have a life?
You know, something useful to do in the real world... Obviously you can not come up with anything on your won so let me recommend something for you: "Clean your room!" , "Do your laundry!" and then go and help that old lady cross the street.

Typing this bull shit you guys write here, page after page, is borderline lunacy. No, actually It's just embarrassing!

None of you have any more information than the next guy. You keep writing your bull shit and thinking, if you read it back form your screen, it becomes the truth. No, it will not.

Sadly, none of us have ANY fkn idea what is actually happening and yes, Kens inability to communicate is astounding.

Thank you and please, STFU!

PS! Ken, we are still waiting for those financial reports.
A balance sheet with "Shareholders Equity" will be a nice start.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297503.msg3999505#msg3999505

[zumzero]

Are you the same fuckwit that posted on the labcoin thread words to the effect, "I bet I could post again in 100 pages and nothing will have changed.", then posted 100 pages later to mouth off, "Nothings changed, I posted 100 pages ago to say nothing would change 100 pages from now.  Get a life you sad fucks".  

The reality is some people here could make hundreds, even thousands of bitcoins from ActM and its the general consensus in Bitcoin Land that those numbers of coin will one day be worth millions.  Thats why I see nothing wrong with people spending every waking hour monitoring their investments.  While I'd agree that most of the content in this thread is useless, every now and then something valuable shows up.  So stop being a party pooper and let people have their fun please.  Or if it upsets you that much apply for a mod position.  Or even better, just bring something useful to the party rather than criticising everything and everyone, Mr. 1893 posts!

Forget the $2000 Bitcoin party, I can't wait for the Eskimo Bob 2000th post party.  

[JoTheKhan]

@Eskimo this isn't some forum about some shitty game my friend. When you invest in something you do the due diligence. Even if you don't want to you should keep your ear to the ground and try and be the first to know anything that could possibly effect your status with the company and your shares' value. If that means visiting a thread for a couple hours each day when you have the time then you should very well do that. Saying someone has no life because they do this is very childish, it shows you do not have your priorities in order, and someone who doesn't have his priorities in order shouldn't judge another person's decisions.

[EskimoBob]

Are you the same fuckwit that posted on the labcoin thread words to the effect, "I bet I could post again in 100 pages and nothing will have changed.", then posted 100 pages later to mouth off, "Nothings changed, I posted 100 pages ago to say nothing would change 100 pages from now.  Get a life you sad fucks".   

The reality is some people here could make hundreds, even thousands of bitcoins from ActM and its the general consensus in Bitcoin Land that those numbers of coin will one day be worth millions.  Thats why I see nothing wrong with people spending every waking hour monitoring their investments.  While I'd agree that most of the content in this thread is useless, every now and then something valuable shows up.  So stop being a party pooper and let people have their fun please.  Or if it upsets you that much apply for a mod position.  Or even better, just bring something useful to the party rather than criticising everything and everyone, Mr. 1893 posts!

Forget the $2000 Bitcoin party, I can't wait for the Eskimo Bob 2000th post party. 

@Eskimo this isn't some forum about some shitty game my friend. When you invest in something you do the due diligence. Even if you don't want to you should keep your ear to the ground and try and be the first to know anything that could possibly effect your status with the company and your shares' value. If that means visiting a thread for a couple hours each day when you have the time then you should very well do that. Saying someone has no life because they do this is very childish, it shows you do not have your priorities in order, and someone who doesn't have his priorities in order shouldn't judge another person's decisions.

Right... so you keep inventing bs, posting it here and then reading it back with comments from other clueless dimwitted trolls... and you call it "due diligence" and "monitoring your investment".

Are you two completely mad? LOL...

[abuelau]

 

[JoTheKhan]

@Eskimo please point me to the bullshit I have invented on this thread. I have done no speculation on the share price, no estimation for how much of the global hashrate we will (probably not) have. I have done no guesstimates on when our shares will go live, I have only, looked for input from others, asked questions, and answered the questions I knew the answer too. Stop dreaming up shit.

[zumzero]

@Eboab.  Totally barking mate.  The only due diligence I did was ask someone for a tip.  Gimme an extremely high risk enterprise, so risky that it could well be a scam.  I want to invest a small amount of money and if it pays off, I want an unimaginable return.  "Why not try AMC?  If it's legit it could do very well indeed."  Fuck it that will do, so how do I get these bitcoins then?  Turns out I got pissed and bought way more than I should have, lol!

Just goes to show you that it's all just a massive gamble and no amount of research and 'due diligence' will guarantee success.  And that's what bothers you, doesn't it?  You're outraged that amateurs like me can come in and just roll the dice.  No intelligence, no research, no thought whatsoever, just a bit of good old fashioned luck and an almost guaranteed lottery win.  There's nothing you can say that will stop me grinning from ear to ear all the way to my helipad so go jump into a uniform and find some other poor unfortunates to bother.  

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Just goes to show you that it's all just a massive gamble and no amount of research and 'due diligence' will guarantee success.
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Investing is not the same thing as gambling, and those who don't know this tend to end up broke.  Don't delude yourself into thinking that lack of guaranteed success means your blind guess is as good as any other.  It's not.

[zumzero]

I can't argue against your logic as it's sound.  My gamble was to go with the recommendation of someone who is meticulous in their research who made no guarantee that the AMC operation was legit.  If they had recommended Labcoin and had been duped, I'd have gambled and lost.

As I think you're saying, a blind guess may or may not work and is no substitute for 'due dilligence', however in the Wild West that is Bitcoin securities, everything becomes a possibility.

[zumzero]

As if right on cue.....  hehe

Listen pal, as your previous attempts to pick flaws in the business model have been blown apart on numerous occasions it comes as no surprise that you no longer challenge on that front.

So what is one to do?

I know, let's blabber on about the wrath of the SEC.

My prediction: Within 10 working days of the SEC getting a conviction of Trendon Shavers, Ken will be paying out ever increasing dividends to manipulators like Entropy.  You must really hate my posts, eh?

[JimmyJazz]

am I completely missing something or are 24TH machines not one of the best products on the markets. (Yes I know not yet, but MAYBE soon)
Surely these machines still have a lot of time before becoming obsolete?

[zumzero]

As if right on cue.....  hehe

Listen pal, as your previous attempts to pick flaws in the business model have been blown apart on numerous occasions it comes as no surprise that you no longer challenge on that front.

So what is one to do?

I know, let's blubber on about the wrath of the SEC.

My prediction: Within 10 working days of the SEC getting a conviction of Trendon Shavers, Ken will be paying out ever increasing dividends to manipulators like Entropy.  You must really hate my posts, eh?

Did Ken tell you not to quote me so that my posts completely disappear when he mods the thread?

I must have missed the part where you explained the astounding business model here.

Are you still working off VBS's fantasy worksheet?  The imaginary mine must be running around 5 Ph/s in your world right?

Bottom line here is simple.  Ken is incapable of delivering working miners.  Ken has missed the window of time when actually delivering obsolete easic devices would have mattered.  The fools that actually paid him for miners have been collecting torches and pitchforks on other threads, demanding refunds.

And I will never see a satoshi out of Ken's hands because I wouldn't touch this scam with a ten foot pole.

No he didn't, I try not to quote trolls out of respect for those who have them on ignore.

Very lame comment on the business model buddy.

I'll be the first to admit Vbs's figures gave me a hard on but those spreadsheets, which were updated regularly were only ever best case scenarios and it would have been naive to think otherwise.  When the Advisory Board was disbanded it was announced the spreadsheets were no longer to be updated.  That was in the very early days.  As it transpired the Avalons never made it, through no fault of Kens, and one thing to this day holds true.  Vbs made mention of the potential gains through hardware sales.  Time will certainly tell and whilst we can't rule out the possibilty of enormous profits there, one is simply wrong to state otherwise before the event.

Top line is Ken has already delivered and you know it.  Delivering obsolete hardware at any time is missing the window.  Let the miners decide what is obsolete, and when.  Calling all customers fools says more about you than anyone else.

For someone set to make zero from this company you have an unhealthy attraction to it.