Is new merit system really success ?

[Smpdytz1]

In bitcointalk forum there are really good posts even that does not earn atleast single point of merits.and there are many spam and off topic posts that earn bunch of merits.

And even some forum users does not give merits for quality posts and they share merits with only there friends for some shit posts

Some forum users who tried to make quality posts are now demotivate with this situation

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[TheBeardedBaby]

You do not need to open a new thread on this topic, just browse for a while the Meta section and you will find the answer.
Many complaining and some are happy with it, but the most important thing is that it's doing what it's intended to do, blocking the shitposters to go up and eventually discourage them and make them quit.

[chubbyTubby]

In bitcointalk forum there are really good posts even that does not earn atleast single point of merits.and there are many spam and off topic posts that earn bunch of merits.

And even some forum users does not give merits for quality posts and they share merits with only there friends for some shit posts

Some forum users who tried to make quality posts are now demotivate with this situation

It's too early to decide whether or not the merit system works.
Remember that the thread you post in won't die right after you post in it. You might get a merit a week after you've made the post if it's any good.

I see lots of people complaining about not getting merits from something they posted 20 minutes ago which doesn't make too much sense.

[TheQuin]

Some forum users who tried to make quality posts are now demotivate with this situation

Why does merit matter to you? If you came to this forum to learn about Bitcoin, participate in discussions and just get involved, then it really shouldn't make any difference to you.

[hase0278]

In bitcointalk forum there are really good posts even that does not earn atleast single point of merits.and there are many spam and off topic posts that earn bunch of merits.

And even some forum users does not give merits for quality posts and they share merits with only there friends for some shit posts

Some forum users who tried to make quality posts are now demotivate with this situation

Give it time, quality post will earn merits in the long run if it is deserving. It is a fact that merit is a limited resource and for this reason some users give it only to those they seem worthy of it and helped them. Those off topic posts that earns merits via merit abusing will be given red trust by default trust members anyway sooner or later, so don't be jealous of them. Rather, if your post contributes to the community, then just continue what you are doing. Those who do good post mostly are not demotivated in the situation at all, in fact some are challenged by it.

[hilariousetc]

The system is far from perfect but at least it stops those who are only here to earn by trying to rank up in the laziest way possible. If you put the effort in then over time you should earn the merit. If people are just going to give up and get 'demotivated' after only a month of the system being implemented then they won't be missed.

[vina humaidah]

this merit system does have weakness , that is good post but none appreciate.
it would be nice in this forum to have a team or something with the task of seeing good post and suggesting other members read it and give it an award.
maybe it could give its own comfort for the members here.

[El Il-mythos]

You know just trust the new system implemented by the administrator,whenever there is a new implementation both sides are affected but the good ones always understand the situation.
I believe this was imposed just to teach everyone specially the new comers to become aware and avoid themselves to create shitposts. Just choose to have a good feeling if you are making a good post for  you are part of the solution and not on the side of problem makers. It is to early to say anything that is let us calm down and wait for the next changes.

[bhubur22122017]

Some forum users who tried to make quality posts are now demotivate with this situation

Why does merit matter to you? If you came to this forum to learn about Bitcoin, participate in discussions and just get involved, then it really shouldn't make any difference to you.

your account has ranked that is safe if you agree if your account is still a newbie

[TheQuin]

your account has ranked that is safe if you agree if your account is still a newbie

Yes, rank is meaningless to me. If you check the date I registered you'll work out that I would easily be Legendary in rank by now if I had been interested to do so. You can also see that my posts have been awarded 103 merit points in the 26 days since the merit system was introduced. That means the system wouldn't have made any difference to my rank if it had always been there anyway, as that's a lot quicker than activity could be gained.

The only reason to care about rank is if you are here primarily to earn money for posting. I'm getting paid for my signature right now but I see that as a bonus, not a reason to be here.

[Throwing Daggers]

While reading some informations about merit system, it is the best thing that theymos do for our forum. The purpose of it is not only for dissolving some shitposts and nonsense topics in our forum. Theymos really wants newbies/jr. members/members to be more powerful for having more information in just a rank of this. Growing up that is trained in this kind of method, posting some quality and informative post which really helps our forum.

Regarding about sharing merits with friends, time will come when their sMerits become zero they are not eligible now for giving merits unless they receive merits too when they post something good.

[yudiana]

I agree with this system for various reasons
improving post quality, rewarding good post, avoiding bad posts, becoming more grown up with new systems

[yudiana]

Some forum users who tried to make quality posts are now demotivate with this situation

Why does merit matter to you? If you came to this forum to learn about Bitcoin, participate in discussions and just get involved, then it really shouldn't make any difference to you.

the quality of posts will be more appreciated by the merit to think daan get involved in this forum not just looking for profit ..

[mohammadzayadi]

Merit system is enforced with the aim of reducing spammers, but this makes newbie always ask about this merit system. In addition, many new topics are created just to get merit, this causes spam to occur anywhere. I think this merit system has not worked.

[Abal Abal]

In bitcointalk forum there are really good posts even that does not earn atleast single point of merits.and there are many spam and off topic posts that earn bunch of merits.

And even some forum users does not give merits for quality posts and they share merits with only there friends for some shit posts

Some forum users who tried to make quality posts are now demotivate with this situation

too fast to judge about the merit system that much in question now.
because it is still being discussed by many parties related to the negative and positive of merit system.

[pecandubtc]

I see a lot that the merit gives her a friend of herself instead of someone else

[joniboini]

I see a lot that the merit gives her a friend of herself instead of someone else

How do you know that? It is quite interesting that you said something like this.
Even if what you said is true, i guess it is fine as long as they have a decent post to be merited.

[bitcok]

I see a lot that the merit gives her a friend of herself instead of someone else

How do you know that? It is quite interesting that you said something like this.
Even if what you said is true, i guess it is fine as long as they have a decent post to be merited.

if you say it is true, you are wrong .. because in meringgnya munculkannya to avoid spam .. if that way then the spam will not stop

[Creating N Action]

Of course, they will not do that system if it will not be a success. The merit system is not just for newbie, it is also for somebody who are in the field of bitcointalk especially for still spamming. These system administrators are very strict because they are lagging behind the shit posters and those who breakdown against the merit system. We are all capable of spreading merit but do not abuse this system and do punishment for violating its rules.

[markdario112616]

To be honest, As I see it the merit system is still work in progress, a dry-run in which the mods or the admins are trying to enhance not only the forum but also the people in this community. This merit system like as said by some has its flaw/s especially in giving merits, Well not all can appreciate a good post/s (it's given). But the idea of the system is relatively great since it helps not only to prevent others to spam the forum but also to enhance or the maximize the potential of each and everyone here in the community in terms of understanding the industry and doing constructive posts.

Let's just see this system as a tool and not as a punishment. It will benefit us in the long run, especially in using the English language.

[shushanika]

In bitcointalk forum there are really good posts even that does not earn atleast single point of merits.and there are many spam and off topic posts that earn bunch of merits.

And even some forum users does not give merits for quality posts and they share merits with only there friends for some shit posts

Some forum users who tried to make quality posts are now demotivate with this situation

Give it some time. I am waiting for the time when all the account farmers have used their default sMerits. We will see major impact thereafter.

[madwica]

Its too early to say that it is successful but as far as i can see many member of this forum are now trying to post more constructive to gain merit and they able to rank up their account. Even their priority is to rank up to join in signature campaign the important for now is they are now more competitive member than before. I can say since merit system was launched it was decrease the shit post and spammer because those member are now trying to make quality post to achieved their aim in this forum and by posting good quality will gives positive to the forum.

[LKingLion]

your account has ranked that is safe if you agree if your account is still a newbie

Yes, rank is meaningless to me. If you check the date I registered you'll work out that I would easily be Legendary in rank by now if I had been interested to do so. You can also see that my posts have been awarded 103 merit points in the 26 days since the merit system was introduced. That means the system wouldn't have made any difference to my rank if it had always been there anyway, as that's a lot quicker than activity could be gained.

The only reason to care about rank is if you are here primarily to earn money for posting. I'm getting paid for my signature right now but I see that as a bonus, not a reason to be here.

Ooopps..!
I think there's something missing a very important things.
You know what? I guees you couldn't say that, if merit was not implemented. Also you couldn't realized what the important role of merit and ranks if theres no merit.

[TheQuin]

your account has ranked that is safe if you agree if your account is still a newbie

Yes, rank is meaningless to me. If you check the date I registered you'll work out that I would easily be Legendary in rank by now if I had been interested to do so. You can also see that my posts have been awarded 103 merit points in the 26 days since the merit system was introduced. That means the system wouldn't have made any difference to my rank if it had always been there anyway, as that's a lot quicker than activity could be gained.

The only reason to care about rank is if you are here primarily to earn money for posting. I'm getting paid for my signature right now but I see that as a bonus, not a reason to be here.

Ooopps..!
I think there's something missing a very important things.
You know what? I guees you couldn't say that, if merit was not implemented. Also you couldn't realized what the important role of merit and ranks if theres no merit.

No, I absolutely could and would say that regardless.

 

[NJB18]

I really don't have problems with this merit system. Shit posting and greedy bounty hunters are really annoying that it has to be addressed. The forum is supposed to be for learning and meaningful posts. I am actually here in order to update and read some rumors and comments on the coins the I am trading and holding. I don't even care if I will remain a Senior forever as long as the forum remains clean.

[barsharkol12]

It is not really matter wither merit system will be a success, the point here is to participate in bitcoin discussion and developmnt of this system. But merit system plays a big role in this forum, by this system users are aiming merits by making their post resourceful and useful. And also, this system prevents those retard posters or we just say shitposters which is the big problem here in Bitcointalk.

[guschin]

Merit system is:
1) Success for the forum.
2) Failure for shit posters.
3) Motivation for members with positive attitude.

[BTCeminjas]

Merit system is:
1) Success for the forum.

Yes it is success for our beloved forum i saw it now there are many post that deserved to have an smerit.
But sad thing to know that there are some post who have an smerit even it's look like spam to the sewer.

Merit system is:
2) Failure for shit posters.

Not only for shit poster but those farmer account surely they wont rank up with this new merit system.
Hopefully those accounts level red tag by DT members was lessen.

Merit system is:
3) Motivation for members with positive attitude.

And also those members who have honest in forum no cheating or other activity that prohibited by the forum.
Hopefully this new system now did not abuse by the others.

[Quarantine34]

In bitcointalk forum there are really good posts even that does not earn atleast single point of merits.and there are many spam and off topic posts that earn bunch of merits.

And even some forum users does not give merits for quality posts and they share merits with only there friends for some shit posts

Some forum users who tried to make quality posts are now demotivate with this situation

I think it will be successful to other, and will not successful to other also. Why? I strongly agree with you, most merits given in off topics and with friends because actually that will be the system now. The post that have quality will not be given merit because of what? You will see the difference, and I think merit system is not successful.

[kazakova]

If you are talking about whether it is helpful for the forum or not, I guess it will take some time to show its effects.

[btcprospecter]

If anything what it has done is put off many users that were just here to try and spam forums for post count and activity. I'm sure we can all agree that this has been reduced since the introduction of merit.
All I can do is just give merit where I think it is deserved. For me really detailed post should get top merit and even if a post is just contributing positively to the forums it should get a merit.
Time will tell if merit works or not.

[siopaotsin]

your account has ranked that is safe if you agree if your account is still a newbie

Yes, rank is meaningless to me. If you check the date I registered you'll work out that I would easily be Legendary in rank by now if I had been interested to do so. You can also see that my posts have been awarded 103 merit points in the 26 days since the merit system was introduced. That means the system wouldn't have made any difference to my rank if it had always been there anyway, as that's a lot quicker than activity could be gained.

The only reason to care about rank is if you are here primarily to earn money for posting. I'm getting paid for my signature right now but I see that as a bonus, not a reason to be here.

This is a good read and a motivation @TheQuin! I hope that this system will develop in a way where us newly users will not struggle so hard just to earn merits since currently, the standards set were too high and then there is also the scarcity of Smerits that can be given.

[Angel0]

Yes it is effective as I browse also in some bounty campaign, I saw a campaign (I don't want to name it since they may delete my answer), I saw 6 people on the signature campaign, compared to twitter that has already hundreds of participants, like around 300, and more tho hundred for the FB, Imagine six??? That's the effect of the merit too, some realize that they might not earn merit to step on the next rank and receiving same number stake over and over again joining sig campaign.

[Beehives]

In term of success  I think yes.
Look to these threads how this guy busted because of merit system.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2902250.0;all
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2992561.0

[Ctn]

Whether it is success or not but I am sure that slowly it will affect everyone when they will realise the value of higher ranks. The higher rank will be the greed for those people and to get that one they will no way but to post quality matter in the forum and help it avoid the shit posting. That way they will automatically learn how to make quality posts.

Speaking about the giving merits to friends and exchanging them, I don’t think it will last for longer as such activity can turn into fishy one and those involved in such activities might get caught in bad action. So let’s give it some more time.

[Dek Aireen]

I think there are some problems from merit system.
first, the distribution of merit is not in someone who has the ability to assign a quality post.
So giving merit on a post is more subjective.
Second, only certain people give merit to quality posts. while others only give merit to people he knows.

[hilariousetc]

So giving merit on a post is more subjective.

Of course it is subjective. How can we possibly come up with a rule on the type of posts you can or should give merit to? People leave them for helpful or constructive posts but what is helpful of constructive is up to the individual.

Second, only certain people give merit to quality posts. while others only give merit to people he knows.

Maybe the most well known users make the best posts? People become known in the community by being active and helpful so it's natural they will get the most merits, though on the flip side merits are largely useless for higher ranked accounts so I would rather give them out to lower ranked ones but to be honest lower ranks tend not to make great posts.

[speem28]

Some forum users who tried to make quality posts are now demotivate with this situation

Why does merit matter to you? If you came to this forum to learn about Bitcoin, participate in discussions and just get involved, then it really shouldn't make any difference to you.

It seems merits don't matter to you huh? You know full well that most of us here, want to have an alternative source of income besides our job and while it is true that we are participating in different discussions in the forum, we want to earn while we are at it, through signature campaigns, trading investing and etc. Seeing you have a signature on your profile, you can easily understand my point here.

In bitcointalk forum there are really good posts even that does not earn atleast single point of merits.and there are many spam and off topic posts that earn bunch of merits.

And even some forum users does not give merits for quality posts and they share merits with only there friends for some shit posts

Some forum users who tried to make quality posts are now demotivate with this situation

The merit system has produced good results that will benefit us "Members" as a whole. Shitposters are getting banned and giving it more time, I'm sure that we will see less of spams posts on different boards in this forum.

[TheQuin]

It seems merits don't matter to you huh? You know full well that most of us here, want to have an alternative source of income besides our job and while it is true that we are participating in different discussions in the forum, we want to earn while we are at it, through signature campaigns, trading investing and etc. Seeing you have a signature on your profile, you can easily understand my point here.

This is the problem. Posting on a forum is not a job.

Most of the time I have been on this forum I have not had a paid signature. I used to use it for referral links so I know my signature gets a lot of hits. But as I've been spending more time on the forum lately and I thought why not get a little bonus payment. The difference is I would be here posting regardless. I consider it renting out valuable advertising space rather than getting paid to post.

[speem28]

It seems merits don't matter to you huh? You know full well that most of us here, want to have an alternative source of income besides our job and while it is true that we are participating in different discussions in the forum, we want to earn while we are at it, through signature campaigns, trading investing and etc. Seeing you have a signature on your profile, you can easily understand my point here.

This is the problem. Posting on a forum is not a job.

Most of the time I have been on this forum I have not had a paid signature. I used to use it for referral links so I know my signature gets a lot of hits. But as I've been spending more time on the forum lately and I thought why not get a little bonus payment. The difference is I would be here posting regardless. I consider it renting out valuable advertising space rather than getting paid to post.

It is true but sad to say that it is becoming like that here. Well, you can't blame them all for wanting to have a little compensation while they are posting and putting much effort to be as informative and helpful to other members. It's just that many of us here got greedy and just here for the reward that comes along with advertising and forgot about the essence of this forum. Shitposting for the sake of their post count and not thinking entirely about what they've just posted, if it will be useful or not.

[topkhai]

In bitcointalk forum there are really good posts even that does not earn atleast single point of merits.and there are many spam and off topic posts that earn bunch of merits.

And even some forum users does not give merits for quality posts and they share merits with only there friends for some shit posts

Some forum users who tried to make quality posts are now demotivate with this situation

you don't have to complain about this
give the best and useful, There are many people here who are fair and professional
sorry, I'm here alone may be same with you and I've proved it
I advise not to take care of things that aren't your job because will not bring change and will have a negative effect on you
success for you !

[bad_apple]

I think the new merit system is a success (so far?) because as it turns out, large percentage of people who just post and post non-sense gets to rank up and have the privileges of being a high rank member gradually decreases and that's because of the strong requirement that requires posting quality-constructive posts before going up. Let's just hope for this system succeed.

[Baoo]

Absolutely yes, the merit system has changed everything for the better and  especially the behaviours of users. Many of them are trying with a  great effort to get merit point.  Furthermore, many acts in this forum has evolved for the better, for example, the quality of post because before "  the merit system" many users ranked easily with a low quality but now if someone  will post badly then he/she will never rise in rank . So the merit system is going so perfect and everyone must accept this new update  and some of members should stop complaining and  we  must deal with this new situation.

[treatWy]

Let us wait more time to let merit Savage this forum most specially those user who have hundreds of accounts. They will not can't wait to rank up, so, the tendency the one owner will merit his/her other alts. Also the merit system will clean the junk.

[greeklogos]

The idea of whole project was to stay weak posters away from possibility to earn money using this forum by taking a part in different campaigns. You will meet here a lot of posts about how good new system is, but almost all of them are simply ass lickers. I am agree with you, that the project doesn't work fullfilly, just like you said, friends give merit to each other and so on. We have nothing to do with that, as I noticed people who support merit and say how cool it is get merits, and those who see the truth and complain, just like you and I, don't. So, we just need to learn to live with those new rules and stop to complain, but concentrate on quality posting.

[dixon98]

Someone told me that his account (Member Rank) was suspended just days before this new merit system was implemented.

Wonder if it's coincidental or otherwise.

[di.ako.toh]

I think so that this new merit system is a good way for us to improve our capabilities to participate in crypto. We tend to improve ourselves in the best we can, for us to be merited and can join in each crypto activities.