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July 20, 2011, 05:55:57 AM
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The second revision of cards they usually cheap out on some components.  Like the 5870 Vapor-X they took out the software controllable voltage chip (forgot the name.. volterra?) in revision 2, in addition to slightly modifying the PCB (different soldermask) and component layout.

The small black components with 3 feet could be voltage regulators (for smaller chips, not the GPU), but considering they have a "Q" next to them on the silkscreen, they are probably transistors. 

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July 20, 2011, 06:16:00 AM
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The second revision of cards they usually cheap out on some components.  Like the 5870 Vapor-X they took out the software controllable voltage chip (forgot the name.. volterra?) in revision 2, in addition to slightly modifying the PCB (different soldermask) and component layout.

The small black components with 3 feet could be voltage regulators (for smaller chips, not the GPU), but considering they have a "Q" next to them on the silkscreen, they are probably transistors. 

Volterra sounds right.

Would a "U" on silkscreen indicate an IC/VRM ?
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July 20, 2011, 06:55:29 AM
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I believe "U" is for an IC, at least that's what I get on the 555 Timer and HEX Trigger ICs on my project in the design software.

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July 20, 2011, 07:32:22 AM
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Hmm, might have to upgrade. I was looking at a 6870, might just get one of these.
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July 20, 2011, 09:54:12 AM
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Yes, my english is terrible. Never been good at english unfortunitly, top classes at school but never liked/enjoyed english. Net result, I rush words, mispell and dont use sentences and stuff propperly. Maths and logic etx and been hands on is my bag Smiley Far from stupid, Just getting it out of my head and into words/on paper Smiley I DO REALLY appologise for that. Proof reading would help Smiley

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End of the day people have different needs/wants and apple is providing one of them. They do just work i suppose and are harder to screw up. You ought see my mum on a computer...... :/ I still say someone should know how to build a computer/re-install everything before they can even BUY a computer. How much do apple charge when the system actually fails for whatever reason... Im sure it comes with a hefty premium Smiley Insurance for iphone is £15 a month here. Everything else is £7. You have to pay for your handset, That asnt been around for about 4-5 years at least before the 3G. I cant help but see dumbed down products for dumbed down people. I love tech, But the companies are slowing it all down imo, even going backwards with tablets etc. There rubbish and cannot replace PC's in work places. For one, Touchscreen typing IS THE WORST OF ALL TYPING! Bar none! Locking you down into thunderbolt (INTELS PROPRIETRY CONNECTION). List goes on for apple Smiley THey look nice though..... I brought a Lian-Li V1100 case once cause it reminded me of the sleek apple power PC's back then Smiley

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July 20, 2011, 11:31:43 AM
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Have you got a guide for volt modding the original cards?

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July 20, 2011, 06:32:13 PM
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Have you got a guide for volt modding the original cards?

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July 23, 2011, 04:17:47 AM
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well, after getting another 2 on replacement for the old ones they get to 970/980 respectivly. that other.one reaches 1020, all on stock. looks like that first one is whit.of a gem. just waiting for sapphire update trixx now Smiley
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July 23, 2011, 09:49:00 PM
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Have you got a guide for volt modding the original cards?

sapphire trixx, just download it

I have 3x of these cards, but Trixx won't let me even change the voltage on the only 1 that it sees.

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July 25, 2011, 12:15:23 PM
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hey catfish. 000sa cards ( power connectors at back) over volt. the new 230sa ones (power on top of card) don't. your airflow is bad by sounds of it. I've just converted a table and have fans blowing air into the room and out the window. also, fans blowing over the cards and sucking also. on phone so ball ache upload pictures right now with forum rules Sad I have 11 up, 2x xfx 5870 (not volt moddable) doing 900/300 @ 410mhash with 1x sapphire 5850 new revision 1020/300 (can't volt mod yet!) which does 420 mhash. that's hanging out of a case with the 5870s in it Smiley another 4x old rev 5850's all doing 1000 with no more than 1.2 volt. that's run off 1 xfx 750 watt and a standard 650. I blew a standard 850 here, keep away from cheap psu's Smiley there screwed to the bottom of the top table with the mobo and psus at the sides. ontop of the top table is a unfinished setup powered by a 850 standard psu which is limiting the 2 new 5850s to 925/300 cause its crappy Sad I got an akasa 1200 watt for 140 other day but its non standard cable (non kettle) and its not in the box. need pick it up. there not volt moddable until next trixx update. can't wait see what they can do. will have 4 eventually with that 1200 up and running Smiley purple helmets on ars bitcoin Smiley got the pc system running to bitcoins lc so 1.250 ghash there and its about 2.4 ghash to ars give or take. 3.2 complete. well, 6.4 when this projects finished Smiley considering the amount I put in and knowledge gained, I'm on a winner. electric bills are nothing. my bills have been multiple 100s a month, this isn't anywhere near the likes of them  days :p

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p.s ill get a pic of the rigs up. my knowledge for free and I been doing this since I was 12. I know dos days so ill let you do the math Smiley and the scorn I got when I just wanted to post in the right section :p

I just wonder, 'what is the plan'? time will tell Smiley

EDIT: Pics, thought i may as well Smiley (:INK BELOW PIC POST IF DOESNT FIT)

Here is the origional concept. 4 cards


http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/6/imag0003cg.jpg/

Thats 4 cards and 2 psus, crappy 650 on left 2 and hdd, other 750 xfx for system and other 2x 5850s.

This is with the crappy limiting 850 watt ont top. I was going make a stand on top but i got a new table instead. Way better layout. Herer it is with 2 cards 'sitting' ontop Tongue


http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/812/imag0010t.jpg/

Here's the system with 3 cards in, not actually mine now, house mates. It was the test bed pc Smiley


http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/694/imag0009pj.jpg/

If the 2x XFX 5870s were volt moddable they would be aweome. I recon 500 wouldnt be out of nthe question. The 5850 hanging out is set at 1020/300 at stock voltage. Amazing chip Smiley Its actually 418 mhash, cant quiete get 1025. Ain't tried inbetween..... all on a 900 watt be quiet picked up for a ton.

And air flow, Pretty obvious.....


http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/339/imag0011cl.jpg/

So, DONT BUY CHEAP PSU's is a lesson learned, £60 though, mahh. nvm. Made that in a few days Tongue

new 7 series touted for september, lower power usuage but dont think processor count will go up. They went down on the 6 series so i expect the same as them. Gaming doesnt need more stream processors like mining does. Or maybe ati masy see where there profits are coming from these last few months..... Still. This is hurting nvidia even more. Bad design choice. Unlucky. Intel fooled you with that larbee Tongue

Isnt tech getting fun again Smiley

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July 25, 2011, 01:52:30 PM
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ahmen Smiley

what 750, to be honest there down at 970 them on the xfx 750. I'm not sure if its vrms or psu. mm. need that 1200 up and running. I think you got be more careful around the 600 to 850 watt, its a jungle. anything above is going cost but its going do what it says on the tin efficently. my 900 is 980 peak, 1200 is 1255 peak. sea sonic, be quieter. just read reviews Smiley
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July 25, 2011, 04:46:59 PM
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I just bought a used 5850 yesterday morning and I'm not sure what revision it is, but I'll check when I get home.  I can clock it to about 1030 @ 1.088v.  Anything beyond that though, and it becomes unstable.  AMD GPU Clock Tool won't let me volt it beyond 1.088v.   I've had it running at 1020 for the last 24hrs or so without any problems and it's hitting around 412 MH/s.  The power connectors are at the very end of the card (short edge).

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July 25, 2011, 06:46:15 PM
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im jealous.. i got like 10 of these extremes and they wont clock that hard under linux.. havent tried windows

core 897
mem 299
volt 1088
@ 370Mhash/s

gonna have to play more with the tweaks
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July 25, 2011, 08:29:00 PM
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Yah I seem to get really lucky with hardware usually - my 5830 clocks to 1040MHz and cranks out 330 MH/s stably 24/7.  Though on the other side of the coin, I have a 5870 that has problems with anything over 990MHz.  Oh well, you can't win em all Smiley

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July 25, 2011, 11:50:32 PM
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ahmen Smiley

what 750, to be honest there down at 970 them on the xfx 750. I'm not sure if its vrms or psu. mm. need that 1200 up and running. I think you got be more careful around the 600 to 850 watt, its a jungle. anything above is going cost but its going do what it says on the tin efficently. my 900 is 980 peak, 1200 is 1255 peak. sea sonic, be quieter. just read reviews Smiley
Hmmm... the PSU was a 750W job that happened to be on offer at Maplin - £65 or something like that. Recognisable brand-name PSUs with big power outputs are over £100 and that seems a hell of a lot to me.

Then again, I *do* have 4 5850s and 1 5770 to use, and if I can get ALL of them into a custom frame using ONE high-quality big-power PSU, then perhaps it's worth it.

I just REALLY wish I could use the PSU from my old Quad G5 Powermac - that needed a special wall plug because it was 1500W or something mental, due to the insane power draw from the water-cooled G5s. I'd install PPC Linux on the machine in a shot, as it has lots of PCIe x16 slots - sadly ATI's stream SDK proprietary code is Intel x86 only. So I can't run the OpenCL miner under Linux on the old Mac box Sad

O yes, i drew over 3600 watts which would have spiked at 7200 when it all kicked in. That never did anything to the electrics Smiley from 1 plug socket. UK 230-240V mind you but still. 1500 is peanuts. Plug it in, connect the black and green cable together (pins 3-4 it would be going along the top row) and the power stays on Wink The bit that plugs into the motherboard, the 24 pin one. That just sends the signal for on.

.0 MASSIVE SPIDER just ran at me haha. Jeepers Smiley

I just lost my mobo with 4 x1 and 1 x16 socket on and they have no more Sad PCI to PCI-E are expensive Sad well, £20 haha. But still, just got my akasa 1200 up, Was going test the 5 cards but my other mobo is only 2 1xPCIE and 1 x13PCIE, 3 Sad Ordered 1 PCI converter but need another. This is mint if true though as i will get 5 cards per system with a 1200/1250 PSU there ain't a problem. REALLY wanted see 5 cards running 400+ mhash each too Sad My 'RIG' now comprises of 10 cards, not 8 when complete now Smiley 4 Ghash a sysytem, Costing about 1700-1800 GBP. I dont think thats too bad. It earns £20 a day, £140 a week, Card payed for Smiley Thats conservitive and i recon values going go up. Rose for the first weekend ever this one i believe Smiley
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July 26, 2011, 09:19:55 AM
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CONTINUED HERE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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July 26, 2011, 09:37:46 AM
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You need something like this:
http://ht4u.net/reviews/2010/gesamtvergleich_leistungsaufnahme_grafikkarten/index2.php

Power consumption Furmark  !!gpu only!!  

http://ht4u.net/reviews/2010/gesamtvergleich_leistungsaufnahme_grafikkarten/index5.php


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July 26, 2011, 10:14:30 AM
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Got one for sale if anyone's looking Smiley  Brand new, unopened.

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July 26, 2011, 11:54:25 AM
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I really need to get myself another of these
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July 29, 2011, 07:51:55 PM
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230SA ... only 810core on default vcore =(
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