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September 23, 2013, 06:25:08 AM |
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[UPDATE] Now Vod is accusing BitcoinLeader of requesting a reputation scam loan, when Vod made a reputation loan himself today! Vod just want to trash newbies reputation before even giving them a chance! BitcoinLeader closed his own thread on his OWN volution admitting he was oblivious to the fact that it's frowned upon for a newbie to request large loans, yet Vod keeps the bad feedback on him and continues to trash him, including on this thread!
Posting the link to Vod's reputation loan he made, which he so despises.
Whoa - this was just sent to me. I have never taken out any reputation loans. AW is a liar. He didn't provide a link, and one will not be provided, so we'll just write this one off as a delusion, much like believing an old man collected two of every animal in a large boat. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) SO EVERYONE CAN SEE HOW VOD TWISTS THINGS:
I NEVER WROTE HE TOOK OUT A LOAN, I WROTE "VOD MADE A REPUTATION LOAN."
WHAT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT VOD? DO YOU HAVE DIFFICULTY WITH THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE OR A SELF ESTEEM PROBLEM? I VOTE THE LATTER.
He would best be served by not writing a bunch of nonsense and actually reading facts.
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i3lome
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September 23, 2013, 06:25:23 AM |
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Im the person that supposedly got scammed right, this whole accusation is base around my 4 Btc loan. How did I make up the story when it was my loan
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Vod
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September 23, 2013, 06:25:35 AM |
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I am gonna go get popcorn. Vod if the above is true and that story is your basis to bash Andrew you are clearly a douche...... sorry....
Agreed. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Vod
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September 23, 2013, 06:27:20 AM |
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[UPDATE] Now Vod is accusing BitcoinLeader of requesting a reputation scam loan, when Vod made a reputation loan himself today! Vod just want to trash newbies reputation before even giving them a chance! BitcoinLeader closed his own thread on his OWN volution admitting he was oblivious to the fact that it's frowned upon for a newbie to request large loans, yet Vod keeps the bad feedback on him and continues to trash him, including on this thread!
Posting the link to Vod's reputation loan he made, which he so despises.
Whoa - this was just sent to me. I have never taken out any reputation loans. AW is a liar. He didn't provide a link, and one will not be provided, so we'll just write this one off as a delusion, much like believing an old man collected two of every animal in a large boat. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) SO EVERYONE CAN SEE HOW VOD TWISTS THINGS:
I NEVER WROTE HE TOOK OUT A LOAN, I WROTE "VOD MADE A REPUTATION LOAN."
WHAT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT VOD? DO YOU HAVE DIFFICULTY WITH THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE OR A SELF ESTEEM PROBLEM? I VOTE THE LATTER.You were being deliberately vague, hoping people would associate "made" with "took" and now you are arguing semantics. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Speaking of difficulty with the english language, did you ever look up the definition of the word "cult"? lol
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lophie (OP)
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September 23, 2013, 06:28:00 AM |
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I am tempted to change the thread subject to "Vod VS Andrew, Round one.... FIGHT!" ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) .
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i3lome
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September 23, 2013, 06:30:18 AM |
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I am gonna go get popcorn. Vod if the above is true and that story is your basis to bash Andrew you are clearly a douche...... sorry....
Agreed. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Vod- just a bully blindly over looks fact to twist to fit his motives. I would still like to see the Victim in said scam, your a long time member and scam advocate. So provide the proof of what happened.
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September 23, 2013, 06:32:34 AM |
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Why does Vod leave positive feedback on the profile of Blazr, and negative feedback of r3wt? did you think we wouldn't notice? check the signature: We Do Not Forget
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Extortion. We are Anonymous. We are legion. We do not forgive. We Do Not Forget. Expect Us.
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AndrewWilliams
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September 23, 2013, 06:33:07 AM |
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[UPDATE] Now Vod is accusing BitcoinLeader of requesting a reputation scam loan, when Vod made a reputation loan himself today! Vod just want to trash newbies reputation before even giving them a chance! BitcoinLeader closed his own thread on his OWN volution admitting he was oblivious to the fact that it's frowned upon for a newbie to request large loans, yet Vod keeps the bad feedback on him and continues to trash him, including on this thread!
Posting the link to Vod's reputation loan he made, which he so despises.
Whoa - this was just sent to me. I have never taken out any reputation loans. AW is a liar. He didn't provide a link, and one will not be provided, so we'll just write this one off as a delusion, much like believing an old man collected two of every animal in a large boat. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) SO EVERYONE CAN SEE HOW VOD TWISTS THINGS:
I NEVER WROTE HE TOOK OUT A LOAN, I WROTE "VOD MADE A REPUTATION LOAN."
WHAT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT VOD? DO YOU HAVE DIFFICULTY WITH THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE OR A SELF ESTEEM PROBLEM? I VOTE THE LATTER.You were being deliberately vague, hoping people would associate "made" with "took" and now you are arguing semantics. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Speaking of difficulty with the english language, did you ever look up the definition of the word "cult"? lol ARE. YOU. FREAKING. KIDDING. ME.
VAGUE? REALLY? REALLY VOD?
WHAT PART OF VOD MADE A REPUTATION LOAN DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND? IF SWAHILI WAS YOUR FIRST LANGUAGE, YOU MIGHT HAVE AN EXCUSE FOR BEING CONFUSED. BUT, YOU LIVE IN ALBERTA CANADA, AND FROM THE WAY YOU TYPE, ENGLISH IS MOST PROBABLY YOUR FIRST LANGUAGE.
SO STOP BLAMING OTHERS FOR YOUR MISTAKES. JUST LIKE RIGHT NOW YOU ATTEMPT TO BLAME ME FOR BEING UNABLE TO READ THE WORD MADE. OH, AND YOU CAN TAKE OFF THE OTHER NEGATIVE FEEDBACK YOU JUST PLACED, SAYING I LIED ABOUT YOU TAKING A REPUTATION LOAN.
UNBELIEVABLE, YOU CANNOT MAKE THIS CRAP UP!
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Vod
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September 23, 2013, 06:34:11 AM |
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I am tempted to change the thread subject to "Vod VS Andrew, Round one.... FIGHT!" ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . Nah, this is over. I've worked too hard on my account for this. Arguing over semantics is making all sides look like idiots. AW is usinga throw away account, so he doesn't care. My account matters. I'll be the bigger man and walk away. I'll still be here long after AW has scammed and moved on. Since I'm forced to mention this (because AW will suggest it), my leaving the discussion is not any kind of admittance of wrong doing. I've always been on the level. I'm just done arguing with someone who doesn't have a moral compass - nothing he does in this life matters because he believes in sky fairies and he has an external life afterward in heaven, watching me burn in hell. I NEVER WROTE HE TOOK OUT A LOAN, I WROTE "VOD MADE A REPUTATION LOAN."
You certainly did. I should be labelled a scammer for associating "took out" and "made". My bad. Feedback edited to remain 100% truthful. See ya later, scammer.
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BitcoinLeader
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September 23, 2013, 06:35:21 AM |
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You agreed, told me you would stop the reputation loans, and locked the thread. You're making up stories again. Where did you see me saying that I would stop reputation loans? Vod, you are a liar! Stop lying about things I never said and things I never do 1. Stop accuse me of being a scammer when I want to loan with Paypal (one does not simply scam Paypal Dispute) 2. Stop accuse me of reputation scams at BTCjam (When 80% of the listings are reputation loans) while I have all possible verifications and a C+ rating.
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September 23, 2013, 06:39:43 AM |
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VAGUE? REALLY? REALLY VOD?
WHAT PART OF VOD MADE A REPUTATION LOAN DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
WTF does "made a reputation loan" mean? Either you give a loan, or you receive a loan. So yes, Vod is right; it was vague.
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lophie (OP)
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September 23, 2013, 06:39:58 AM |
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Well for me personally I wouldn't even trust theymos but it is not the person it is the fact that honest people would prefer to give assurance to comfort the other side of any kind of deals and not just being proud and egoistic about their apparent image.
From where I see it Vod you care about the image more. I would suggest you cool down a bit and take it easy especially when you are a third party to a deal or just an observer. You are generally bashing people too much it is not healthy.
I admire and respect your helpfulness and caring nature about other people not to get scammed but I think you are at the edge between that and being simply the person who bashes everyone for the slightest of reasons.
I am sorry if you disagree. I am sorry I am probably wrong. I just wanted to be constructive.
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i3lome
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September 23, 2013, 06:42:06 AM |
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Well for me personally I wouldn't even trust theymos but it is not the person it is the fact that honest people would prefer to give assurance to comfort the other side of any kind of deals and not just being proud and egoistic about their apparent image.
From where I see it Vod you care about the image more. I would suggest you cool down a bit and take it easy especially when you are a third party to a deal or just an observer. You are generally bashing people too much it is not healthy.
I admire and respect your helpfulness and caring nature about other people not to get scammed but I think you are at the edge between that and being simply the person who bashes everyone for the slightest of reasons.
I am sorry if you disagree. I am sorry I am probably wrong. I just wanted to be constructive.
Amen
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September 23, 2013, 06:43:35 AM |
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VAGUE? REALLY? REALLY VOD?
WHAT PART OF VOD MADE A REPUTATION LOAN DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
WTF does "made a reputation loan" mean? Either you give a loan, or you receive a loan. So yes, Vod is right; it was vague. agreed, however this is more of a turf war than anything else.
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AndrewWilliams
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September 23, 2013, 06:44:44 AM |
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VAGUE? REALLY? REALLY VOD?
WHAT PART OF VOD MADE A REPUTATION LOAN DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
WTF does "made a reputation loan" mean? Either you give a loan, or you receive a loan. So yes, Vod is right; it was vague. In the English language, it is said: "I made a loan to Sally. Sally received a loan from me." If I wanted to say that, I would have just said "Vod took out a loan." But again, I have no reason for that. I'm sorry if you think it's vague, I can assure you it was not my intention. I respect you based on your character reflected in the posts you have made, so I am not too proud to say I am sorry in that regard. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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September 23, 2013, 06:49:36 AM |
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Ah, ok. I'm guessing it's a regional thing (ie. "Coke" vs. "soda" vs. "pop"). I usually hear it as "I loaned to Sally" or "Sally loaned to me".
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lophie (OP)
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September 23, 2013, 06:52:19 AM |
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Again. The thread was changed according to the current conversation. sincerly felt it must be changed not to affect Andrew's reputation with something he honestly did not expect (>_> even though I still think it was obviously unreliable way to ensure access to liquidity.)
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i3lome
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September 23, 2013, 06:54:51 AM |
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I don't see why this has gotten blown way out of proportion AndrewWilliam- Filled my loan Request https://blockchain.info/address/1H7E7YqMoWQZsUCumbvyASYJzpnz3dudaBIm the guy supposedly getting scammed, Vod wont confirm or give this "anonymous" user that has complained Forgive me if Im wrong but, If Andrew was trying to scam me he did it wrong. To be scam someone you don't send the bitcoins, right? I personally think Vod has some past issues with the Lending Section, maybe a failed transaction or not being able to get a loan himself. This made him bitter so he uses the Trust System to stop and Loan that he don't want to happen. Sometimes he probably does stop a scam but how many times has he stopped Legit Transactions. I don't think it was personal in the beginning just a user with control issues.
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AndrewWilliams
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September 23, 2013, 06:57:50 AM |
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I am tempted to change the thread subject to "Vod VS Andrew, Round one.... FIGHT!" ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . Nah, this is over. I've worked too hard on my account for this. Arguing over semantics is making all sides look like idiots. AW is usinga throw away account, so he doesn't care. My account matters. I'll be the bigger man and walk away. I'll still be here long after AW has scammed and moved on. Since I'm forced to mention this (because AW will suggest it), my leaving the discussion is not any kind of admittance of wrong doing. I've always been on the level. I'm just done arguing with someone who doesn't have a moral compass - nothing he does in this life matters because he believes in sky fairies and he has an external life afterward in heaven, watching me burn in hell. I NEVER WROTE HE TOOK OUT A LOAN, I WROTE "VOD MADE A REPUTATION LOAN."
You certainly did. I should be labelled a scammer for associating "took out" and "made". My bad. Feedback edited to remain 100% truthful. See ya later, scammer. Worked hard you have. It's crystal clear, Vod is the one antagonizing people, and posting outright lies about people, myself included. I am not using a throw away account. Stop making things up. IF I DIDN'T CARE, I WOULDN'T BOTHER TO POST, AND SHOW HOW YOU ARE LYING.However, I have seen you manufacture lies about me, and do it to others too. Stop it. Just stop. I have a great job, and honestly, you have wasted way too much of my time by you unfounded accusations. I'm not the only one you have painted with a broad brush. My wife has been giving me looks as I angrily enthusiastically bang on my keyboard replying to all these posts, LOL, so I am eager to move on from this. And, I'm going to end it on this note: You can insult Jesus Christ and Christianity as much as you want, all it does is make my faith stronger. Goodnight. i3lome, BitcoinLeader, TamatoCage, and of course Lophie, thank you for your input and honesty. TamatoCage, please kindly ask Vod to take off the neg feedback on my borrower i3lome. He didn't do anything wrong. All he did was stick up for me, and I guess Vod is angry about that. Also, I have offered and stand by my offer of a cease-fire, and to remove the neg feedback on Vod if he removes it on me.
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September 23, 2013, 06:58:05 AM |
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Vod is usually pretty cool about things, but there's so many scammers on this forum that it's really easy to get into the "fuck it, EVERYBODY is a scammer" frame of mind. I know I get that way sometimes, but sometimes our scammer-sense needs the occasional recalibrating.
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