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April 08, 2018, 05:47:47 PM
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Considering their good reputation with hardware wallet which have good security and good community/customer service, i'm sure this wallet will be favorite among user who needs cryptocurrency wallet or/and don't want run full nodes.
Jaxx and Exodus popularity could be beaten by Ledger if the application at least as good as their hardware wallet.
The app still requires you to have a Ledger.

You don't need to buy a hardware device to use Jaxx and Exodus, so you can't compare both of them with the new Ledger app.

But there's no info whether the wallet give user full access to their cryptocurrency private key or seed.
It should be pretty obvious that you will have access to your seed, which you can use to import your wallet into a different wallet (like Electrum).

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April 08, 2018, 05:59:26 PM
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Considering their good reputation with hardware wallet which have good security and good community/customer service, i'm sure this wallet will be favorite among user who needs cryptocurrency wallet or/and don't want run full nodes.
Jaxx and Exodus popularity could be beaten by Ledger if the application at least as good as their hardware wallet.
The app still requires you to have a Ledger.

You don't need to buy a hardware device to use Jaxx and Exodus, so you can't compare both of them with the new Ledger app.

But there's no info whether the wallet give user full access to their cryptocurrency private key or seed.
It should be pretty obvious that you will have access to your seed, which you can use to import your wallet into a different wallet (like Electrum).

My bad, i thought "Native desktop application" means standalone/fully independent wallet which don't require Ledger's hardware wallet.

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April 08, 2018, 11:24:30 PM
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It should be pretty obvious that you will have access to your seed, which you can use to import your wallet into a different wallet (like Electrum).
I'm not so sure... With the current ledger setup, after the initial setup and confirmation, there isn't (as far as I know) a way to get the seed mnemonic to display on the device again.

I believe this is a "security feature" to prevent the seed from being extracted or stolen etc.

I doubt the new native desktop software will change this behaviour.

Regardless, the user should have written the seed down during setup (and possibly made a 2nd copy as backup), so they *should* have access to the seed mnemonic and, by extension, the private keys.

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April 08, 2018, 11:30:36 PM
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I'm not so sure... With the current ledger setup, after the initial setup and confirmation, there isn't (as far as I know) a way to get the seed mnemonic to display on the device again.

I believe this is a "security feature" to prevent the seed from being extracted or stolen etc.

I doubt the new native desktop software will change this behaviour.

Regardless, the user should have written the seed down during setup (and possibly made a 2nd copy as backup), so they *should* have access to the seed mnemonic and, by extension, the private keys.

you have to be able to see the seed somewhere to verify it after a restoration and the most secure place to view it is on the screen of the ledger. that's one thing the ledger had over the trezor until the latest version, no need to enter or view anything seed related anywhere other than the ledger itself.

even though odds are of course on your side, i was never too happy messing with a trezor's seed words on a computer.
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April 09, 2018, 02:55:40 AM
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It should be pretty obvious that you will have access to your seed, which you can use to import your wallet into a different wallet (like Electrum).
I'm not so sure... With the current ledger setup, after the initial setup and confirmation, there isn't (as far as I know) a way to get the seed mnemonic to display on the device again.

I believe this is a "security feature" to prevent the seed from being extracted or stolen etc.

I doubt the new native desktop software will change this behaviour.

Regardless, the user should have written the seed down during setup (and possibly made a 2nd copy as backup), so they *should* have access to the seed mnemonic and, by extension, the private keys.

You don't really have a way to get around writing it down because it asks you to confirm (some of?) your seed words directly after showing them to you, to check that you've written them down.

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April 09, 2018, 10:21:14 AM
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You don't really have a way to get around writing it down because it asks you to confirm (some of?) your seed words directly after showing them to you, to check that you've written them down.

This was a case with previous firmware,now user is need to confirm all 24 words and not only 2-3 words what was the case before.I think this is a much better and safer way to ensure 100% correct backup of the seed.In any case, the best way to check the accuracy of the seed is to reset device and enter seed again(but before sending any coins).

Regarding desktop app,since Google Apps will not shut down before June 2018 we can expect to Ledger release desktop app before that.I just hope there will not be some bigger problems with app and that they are upgrade servers finally.

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May 03, 2018, 03:47:34 PM
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Has anybody been able to find an estimated release date on these new native applications? I'm pretty excited for them.

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May 03, 2018, 03:51:24 PM
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Has anybody been able to find an estimated release date on these new native applications? I'm pretty excited for them.
Looks like soon as we are already in the second quarter! Smiley
https://www.ledger.fr/2018/02/23/announcing-new-ledger-wallet-desktop-mobile-applications/

"We’ll soon be announcing availability of the Ledger Wallet application. We’ll first release the desktop version during Q2 2018 and then focus on the mobile version Q3 2018. The new version of the Ledger Manager is also expected for Q2 2018. Stay tuned!"

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May 04, 2018, 02:28:19 PM
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Has anybody been able to find an estimated release date on these new native applications? I'm pretty excited for them.

I have been searching, but no further news. I read rumors ADA and IOTA will be supported.
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May 07, 2018, 04:17:59 PM
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I read rumors ADA and IOTA will be supported.

Those aren't just rumors.
IOTA and ADA are both on ledgers roadmap.

They are working on an application for those coins. They are confirmed. But this still can take a few months until they are out.
As far as i know there is no submitted code being reviewed by ledger yet.

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