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February 26, 2018, 02:38:56 AM
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I don't think miners will be regarded as a security issue. Remember, they don't send any transactions at all, they just maintain the ledger, they are accountants.

With a), there have been a lot of scam ICOs, so there will be regulation which means ICOs will only be done for real projects

and c) would come under existing money laundering rules. So large movements will be scrutinised, but small movements not. (Because who on earth launders small amounts like $100?)

Yep, but they are the source of Bitcoins, so it could be ruled that they are the issuer.

It's not really about money laundering, it's about how securities are typically regulated. We don't know how it will translate to crypto, of course, but that's how it usually is with current securities.

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February 26, 2018, 02:49:55 AM
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Regulation of the encryption market is a good thing, and countries tend to identify ICO as a security.

The U.S. stock exchange's official website released a digital currency regulatory document. Tokens should comply with U.S. securities laws, and the digital currency exchanges and investors that line the ICO should comply with the rules.
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February 26, 2018, 10:09:38 AM
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Hi all,

just want to throw out a question. Whats your opinion on the regulation of cryptos to a securities status (global scenario) ?

As an example, in Switzerland the financial regulatory agengy FINMA has set regulations that will limit the possibilities for new ICO's and provide more safety for investors.
(see: https://www.finma.ch/en/news/2018/02/20180216-mm-ico-wegleitung/)

Resumed, I think it will be good for the market and future of ICO's but others think it will suffocate new startups. I would be very interested in some opinions on the subject.

Thanks

Securities tokens are already regulated as traditional securities assets. Regulators can't define the status of utility tokens.

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February 26, 2018, 10:29:06 AM
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Regulation is both panic for the people having misinterpretation to its effect and an advantages to those wise people inside the cryptocurrency since regulation is what will give the security that the traders need in the market to frauds and scams which are really common, even in physical market. To those people that could hate the regulation due to taxes, it will be part of their losses as taxes inside the cryptocurrency could mean a potential to its innovation in network in the future, meaning that the more the government learned about how the crypto works and how to further innovate the security and convenience to people in the market then the more it will surely provide such easiness to the daily movement of the economy in the market. Political corruption is quite a different discussion as people from their own respective countries will be the one to discuss those.

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February 26, 2018, 10:46:19 AM
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Hi all,

just want to throw out a question. Whats your opinion on the regulation of cryptos to a securities status (global scenario) ?

As an example, in Switzerland the financial regulatory agengy FINMA has set regulations that will limit the possibilities for new ICO's and provide more safety for investors.
(see: https://www.finma.ch/en/news/2018/02/20180216-mm-ico-wegleitung/)

Resumed, I think it will be good for the market and future of ICO's but others think it will suffocate new startups. I would be very interested in some opinions on the subject.

Thanks

In my thoughts about the regulation of cryptocurrency in a country, it is better regulated than being banned. Regulations means no harm to investors and it gives security to the nation as well. It is made to minimize the crime that is involving in cryptocurrency like drug money and scam.

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February 26, 2018, 11:03:34 AM
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Hi all,

just want to throw out a question. Whats your opinion on the regulation of cryptos to a securities status (global scenario) ?

As an example, in Switzerland the financial regulatory agengy FINMA has set regulations that will limit the possibilities for new ICO's and provide more safety for investors.
(see: https://www.finma.ch/en/news/2018/02/20180216-mm-ico-wegleitung/)

Resumed, I think it will be good for the market and future of ICO's but others think it will suffocate new startups. I would be very interested in some opinions on the subject.

Thanks


For these particular ICO regulations I think it is appropriate thing that government should put guidelines in order to minimize fraud from the project creator. It is also good thing that government recognized the crypto as a legal tender.

I think some will raise their eyebrow because for the crypto to have regulations it will violate the crypto vision of decentralization. But if there will be no regulation then who among us will control the scams ICO, and the government I think is the best fit regulatory body to do that job.

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February 26, 2018, 11:09:41 AM
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At least this would help eased the mind of other investors who are not yet into cryto to join invest and support to help the community be a better for the real deal and lessen the number of scammers.

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February 26, 2018, 12:39:18 PM
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If we talk about regulations and the securities status of cryptocurrencies like bitcoin, it is already done by the bitcoin management, they already provide a strong security to their site to avoid scammers, but on the other side between crypto business and government, I don't ever heard any regulation and securities that protects people who access cryptocurrency like bitcoin. It is only the management solely having the regulations and securities to their customers and without any assistant from the government, maybe the purpose of bitcoin management is to avoid direct control of government and also to evade any force of taxes payments.

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February 26, 2018, 01:42:07 PM
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Hi all,

just want to throw out a question. Whats your opinion on the regulation of cryptos to a securities status (global scenario) ?

As an example, in Switzerland the financial regulatory agengy FINMA has set regulations that will limit the possibilities for new ICO's and provide more safety for investors.
(see: https://www.finma.ch/en/news/2018/02/20180216-mm-ico-wegleitung/)

Resumed, I think it will be good for the market and future of ICO's but others think it will suffocate new startups. I would be very interested in some opinions on the subject.

Thanks

Its actually a mixture of the two because if we think that regulation will suffocate new startups then we are not concerned with the funds. Regulations is meant to decide the amount of capital startups will be needing before coming to the market and the intervals it will be needed but what we see today is startups coming to the market (a global market for that matter) then raise more than what is needed at the time. Since they don't need everything at a goal, it then means they have to keep the amount in a hardware wallet or convert to fiat. Converting to Fiat will not be possible because of the amount involved and keeping in hardware wallet till when its needed and if price was high when it was gathered, and price low when its needed, it then mean that the fund will not be able to do what its meant for and we thereafter shout scam.

Irrespective of the disadvantage that it might bring, I still feel regulations will do more good than harm for the market and would even ensure that milestones are achieved before coming to the market to raise more funds under another guise.

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February 26, 2018, 01:42:52 PM
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Regulation is good as it brings confidence in the technology. However, the right balance must be implemented. Enough to keep frauds away but just enough to keep the environment safe for growing companies. There's just so much scams out there, i do think measures should be put in place.
I don't think the regulating crypto currencies will identify the scammers.

The governments are regulating the crypto currencies for the sake of earning purpose not for the detect scammmers or the terrorist they want to make money from everything.
But in crypto currencies the tax implementation may not work for too long because when people change to crypto to crypto transaction then they no need to pay any taxes to the government.

Don't just focus on the other side of the coin, That would be correct, Government authorities may use the opportunity to abuse their power over the regulation imposed by their laws but on the other side this will filter out the qualified ICO's from a scam project, there's no guarantee that 100% there will be no scam projects but the positive outcome of the regulation can bring more investors on cryptocurrency, there is no such thing as perfect system or law everything has its own flaws whether there is a regulation or none.

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February 27, 2018, 04:31:19 AM
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Cryptocurrency have been existing and operating behind government I mean there are no regulations about it being imposed by a country but nonetheless some country doesn't ban it. I think imposing regulations on cryptocurrency would benefit most of the users, there would be possible taxes to be imposed but it is better than getting it banned. It will also add security for the user and their transactions.
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February 27, 2018, 05:46:44 AM
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Regulations of cryptocurrencies market is good if our governments and regulations authorities are truthful and not putting cryptocoins market in the front for they regulations. Our governments cannot be trusted and what ever will make the citizens happy is what they hate. Therefore I will said cryptocoins regulations is evils and I will not pay any tax on it to any government.

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February 27, 2018, 05:59:39 AM
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Cryptocurrency have been existing and operating behind government I mean there are no regulations about it being imposed by a country but nonetheless some country doesn't ban it. I think imposing regulations on cryptocurrency would benefit most of the users, there would be possible taxes to be imposed but it is better than getting it banned. It will also add security for the user and their transactions.
There will be regulation soon, the government will not allow that crypto will exist that they cannot benefit on the technology.
Regulating it will minimize the illegal  activities because exchanges will be oblige to comply with the KYC and report to the Anti Money Laundering Council.

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February 27, 2018, 06:44:47 AM
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Hi all,

just want to throw out a question. Whats your opinion on the regulation of cryptos to a securities status (global scenario) ?

As an example, in Switzerland the financial regulatory agengy FINMA has set regulations that will limit the possibilities for new ICO's and provide more safety for investors.
(see: https://www.finma.ch/en/news/2018/02/20180216-mm-ico-wegleitung/)

Resumed, I think it will be good for the market and future of ICO's but others think it will suffocate new startups. I would be very interested in some opinions on the subject.

Thanks

In my thoughts about the regulation of cryptocurrency in a country, it is better regulated than being banned. Regulations means no harm to investors and it gives security to the nation as well. It is made to minimize the crime that is involving in cryptocurrency like drug money and scam.
I don't think the regulation of crypto currency can stop the illegal activities but it is better than totally banned because people of that country can get the benefits it.But the regulation is not good new for the investors because if it was regulated then they need to pay huge taxes becaus most countries are charging the taxes upto 40%

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February 27, 2018, 06:59:36 AM
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I think it's good it won't suffocate the new start ups at all. Reversely they will get regulated status and thus trust factor for such start up companies would be far greater than the other.

Switzerland is having good time with the crypto currencies as they support everything which is involved with money. I like this country for this reason only and I have heard they support the black money too. Gosh that's beautiful country then.

Few regulations would do great to hide that up.

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February 27, 2018, 07:40:17 AM
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The regulation of cryptomarket can protect from scams, but this is just the official reason: actually, the cryptomarket is already regulated by an open source software. When governments propose some kind of rules, they only want to control the system an to put taxes on it.

It may be not just for control. The governments may have imposed taxes in order to generate revenue. Crypto is something beyond their control, and akl that they could do is impose regulations or choose to ban it from their country. To take advantage of the vast growing number of crypto users, they could impose taxes so that they may have some revenue and use it to develop the country. It is their role to provide protection for the citizens from scams like ICOs.
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February 27, 2018, 09:42:09 AM
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Hi all,

just want to throw out a question. Whats your opinion on the regulation of cryptos to a securities status (global scenario) ?

As an example, in Switzerland the financial regulatory agengy FINMA has set regulations that will limit the possibilities for new ICO's and provide more safety for investors.
(see: https://www.finma.ch/en/news/2018/02/20180216-mm-ico-wegleitung/)

Resumed, I think it will be good for the market and future of ICO's but others think it will suffocate new startups. I would be very interested in some opinions on the subject.

Thanks
It will surely have an impact with the price. But if its purpose is to protect the investors, then it’s a good thing for the bitcoin community. Moreover regulating the Bitcoin would mean the government acknowledged its existence and has allowed more Bitcoin investors. On the other hand, regulating would benefit the government because of taxation. Government will get what they want and Bitcoin will be more secured which will draw more investments. It’s a win-win situation.
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February 27, 2018, 09:55:34 AM
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Hi all,

just want to throw out a question. Whats your opinion on the regulation of cryptos to a securities status (global scenario) ?

As an example, in Switzerland the financial regulatory agengy FINMA has set regulations that will limit the possibilities for new ICO's and provide more safety for investors.
(see: https://www.finma.ch/en/news/2018/02/20180216-mm-ico-wegleitung/)

Resumed, I think it will be good for the market and future of ICO's but others think it will suffocate new startups. I would be very interested in some opinions on the subject.

Thanks
It will surely have an impact with the price. But if its purpose is to protect the investors, then it’s a good thing for the bitcoin community. Moreover regulating the Bitcoin would mean the government acknowledged its existence and has allowed more Bitcoin investors. On the other hand, regulating would benefit the government because of taxation. Government will get what they want and Bitcoin will be more secured which will draw more investments. It’s a win-win situation.
Bitcoin will do nothing to help governments. Fiat stimulates the production. Cryptocurrencies stimulate speculation. Legalization and regulation of the ICO to raise money for lending and the development of production. But it will be difficult to control the technology. For example, a person who comes up with an economical engine for alternative fuel can easily find funding for their project and in a few years can turn the whole world order. Governments are very afraid of this.
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February 27, 2018, 10:10:15 AM
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Hi all,

just want to throw out a question. Whats your opinion on the regulation of cryptos to a securities status (global scenario) ?

As an example, in Switzerland the financial regulatory agengy FINMA has set regulations that will limit the possibilities for new ICO's and provide more safety for investors.
(see: https://www.finma.ch/en/news/2018/02/20180216-mm-ico-wegleitung/)

Resumed, I think it will be good for the market and future of ICO's but others think it will suffocate new startups. I would be very interested in some opinions on the subject.

Thanks
It will surely have an impact with the price. But if its purpose is to protect the investors, then it’s a good thing for the bitcoin community. Moreover regulating the Bitcoin would mean the government acknowledged its existence and has allowed more Bitcoin investors. On the other hand, regulating would benefit the government because of taxation. Government will get what they want and Bitcoin will be more secured which will draw more investments. It’s a win-win situation.
Bitcoin will do nothing to help governments. Fiat stimulates the production. Cryptocurrencies stimulate speculation. Legalization and regulation of the ICO to raise money for lending and the development of production. But it will be difficult to control the technology. For example, a person who comes up with an economical engine for alternative fuel can easily find funding for their project and in a few years can turn the whole world order. Governments are very afraid of this.

I partial agree with you as you backed up your statement with proper example. However the partial denial is because of your opening line that bitcoin can’t do anything for government. The thing can do much more than we could imagine if government properly regulates it. Considering the fact that Switzerland is regulating it for themselves only as they will easily be able to incur the charges on bitcoin holder. They know very well there are lot more people in the Switzerland alone who would be interested in investing into bitcoin and thus the government itself can benefit from the taxes. So you see it has got potential to fund them.

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February 27, 2018, 10:12:19 AM
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I'm pretty much interested in the regulation since currently, the lump of ICO's are just there to grab money and not anywhere be useful to society. With regulations, you will know who are really serious with their projects and will got through all regulations to see them come to fruition.

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