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February 25, 2018, 04:05:47 AM
Last edit: March 07, 2018, 08:48:13 PM by philipma1957
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  I have been asked to review a 16 card custom miner.  I have done multiple reviews in the past.
This one will be more for a big deployment as it will use delta fans and be fairly loud.  I have not ironed out all details and will post more on this in the morning.

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Some details  a few posts below.

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Your video will be live at: https://youtu.be/94IX_fjlpao


second video

https://youtu.be/b4gA7QPP3CA

third video since it is raw it is not much as a car alarm  triggered and I had to turn off the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gAysiHOWBE

here is a longer one with it mining

https://youtu.be/68EGwGnhk1g

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February 25, 2018, 04:06:08 AM
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February 25, 2018, 04:59:43 AM
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Nice, amd or Nvidia?
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Logic is not in the house.
Why start a clean topic that doesn't say anything...Hey I will review bla bla and not review and the open the topic?

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February 25, 2018, 01:03:47 PM
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Logic is not in the house.
Why start a clean topic that doesn't say anything...Hey I will review bla bla and not review and the open the topic?

Wow, way to be a prick.

No worries  self modded.

I deleted him  and yours  since it dirties the thread

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February 25, 2018, 01:07:12 PM
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It has:
16x NVIDIA P106-100 6GB GPUs, delta sourced fans and power supplies, and a server class embedded motherboard.
 
Here is a link to one review. Plus a photo

https://www.servethehome.com/ethereal-capital-16x-gpu-p106-100-x16-professional-mining-rig-review/

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February 25, 2018, 01:33:44 PM
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Interesting design considering most high-gpu count prebuilts I've seen are usually enclosed in a case, and the PCIe switch they're using is full custom and seems to actually work! I'd personally be interested for the exact noise level of the device in decibels and possibly temps. Looks nice and neat on the link you posted to another review, keep us updated!
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February 25, 2018, 02:31:04 PM
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Interesting design considering most high-gpu count prebuilts I've seen are usually enclosed in a case, and the PCIe switch they're using is full custom and seems to actually work! I'd personally be interested for the exact noise level of the device in decibels and possibly temps. Looks nice and neat on the link you posted to another review, keep us updated!

It uses one of the best  server psu's on the market.  The  delta 2400watt that parallel miner was selling.

For that alone I like it.  It has  1 small low end gpu I think a nvidia 730(not sure)  so you can have a screen to view.

Plus the 16 mining gpus.  Does around  4800 to 5100 sols of zec.

This is the cpu. https://ark.intel.com/products/91558/Intel-Pentium-Processor-D1508-3M-Cache-2_20-GHz

It can use ECC ram. It has a  TDP of 25 watts.

It has ethos on a usb stick to run the gear.

This is for a medium or large scale setup.  Buysolar and I are  trying to develop a second solar array in NJ  this would be an ideal unit for us.

Our second array  will be 2 acres  and generate  30-40 kwatts 24/7/365  via tie in to the grid (NJ has good rules for this)

We can operate it remotely which  will be nice since it is about 50-60 miles from Howell, NJ  where the 2 of us live.
I hope to get this gear in under 1 month.
I will run it in my garage meter power use and sound.  Do a few  videos for my you tube channel.   I will then move it to the solar array do another video.  Get a feel for power use per sol etc.

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This looks good. Do you have details on price?
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It uses one of the best  server psu's on the market.  The  delta 2400watt that parallel miner was selling.

For that alone I like it.  It has  1 small low end gpu I think a nvidia 730(not sure)  so you can have a screen to view.

Plus the 16 mining gpus.  Does around  4800 to 5100 sols of zec.

This is the cpu. https://ark.intel.com/products/91558/Intel-Pentium-Processor-D1508-3M-Cache-2_20-GHz

It can use ECC ram. It has a  TDP of 25 watts.

It has ethos on a usb stick to run the gear.

The display GPU is provided directly by the onboard ASPEED Baseboard Management Controller (BMC) from the Supermicro X10SDV-2C-TLN2F motherboard.

We have recently completed development of the 'Power Backplane' which will allow up to 5 x 1200/1500W Common Slot PSU's to be combined into a single power feed.  This is to support up to 16 x P102-100's, or higher wattage GPU's (300W TDP each) once they become available.

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It uses one of the best  server psu's on the market.  The  delta 2400watt that parallel miner was selling.

For that alone I like it.  It has  1 small low end gpu I think a nvidia 730(not sure)  so you can have a screen to view.

Plus the 16 mining gpus.  Does around  4800 to 5100 sols of zec.

This is the cpu. https://ark.intel.com/products/91558/Intel-Pentium-Processor-D1508-3M-Cache-2_20-GHz

It can use ECC ram. It has a  TDP of 25 watts.

It has ethos on a usb stick to run the gear.

The display GPU is provided directly by the onboard ASPEED Baseboard Management Controller (BMC) from the Supermicro X10SDV-2C-TLN2F motherboard.

We have recently completed development of the 'Power Backplane' which will allow up to 5 x 1200/1500W Common Slot PSU's to be combined into a single power feed.  This is to support up to 16 x P102-100's, or higher wattage GPU's (300W TDP each) once they become available.



   Thank you for your clarification on graphics gpu.
The Power back plane is a good option. Will you use it to create redundancy for the psus? Or just to allow for upwards of 5000 watts per unit?
My solar array with buysolar is not small and I hope to have it expanded  from a 1 ⅓ acre array  to 2 arrays of 1 ⅓ plus 2 acres.
If buysolar and I  do this the  dense option  of 1070's or 1080ti's  would be best for us.

I would hope nvidia continues to shift miners into specialty  cards such as the ones in your build.
This would help keep both the gamers and miners happy. I could see your build with the backplane loaded with a new mining card as it is rumored nvidia is trying to build a card line for miners beyond the one in the review above.

   I would love to  have a unit  with 4-6 psu's on the backplane running 16x  1080ti varients  using about 3200-4000 watts.  Each unit could have its own 20 amp 240volt circuit.  No need for pdus since the software allows  access to the unit world wide.


Oh to all kjs is the person involved with supplying  the demo to me.

 As we continue to iron this out via pm and emails I will hopefully get more details on this item.

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February 25, 2018, 06:35:52 PM
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It has:
16x NVIDIA P106-100 6GB GPUs, delta sourced fans and power supplies, and a server class embedded motherboard.
 
Here is a link to one review. Plus a photo

https://www.servethehome.com/ethereal-capital-16x-gpu-p106-100-x16-professional-mining-rig-review/


If you use so noisy fans (above 53dBA) why did you select 25mm thickness fans? Delta fan models like ffb1212VHE or even ffb1212SHE with 38mm thicknes has 1.5 times better airflow and air pressure than you use. Also about 70C degree GPU temperatures at datacenter conditions is not good especially for 1060 GPUs. What will be with 1080 or 1080ti GPUs that have 2 times higher power consumtion and correspondingly heat production?

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It has:
16x NVIDIA P106-100 6GB GPUs, delta sourced fans and power supplies, and a server class embedded motherboard.
 
Here is a link to one review. Plus a photo

https://www.servethehome.com/ethereal-capital-16x-gpu-p106-100-x16-professional-mining-rig-review/


If you use so noisy fans (above 53dBA) why did you select 25mm thickness fans? Delta fan models like ffb1212VHE or even ffb1212SHE with 38mm thicknes has 1.5 times better airflow and air pressure than you use. Also about 70C degree GPU temperatures at datacenter conditions is not good especially for 1060 GPUs. What will be with 1080 or 1080ti GPUs that have 2 times higher power consumtion and correspondingly heat production?

The review is not mine  and  the reviewer states  temps are  under 70 c  not  at 70 c


He used Delta FFB1212SH 120x25mm Super High Speed Fan   and each one  uses 5-6 watts less then the
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http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/deff12suhisp.html
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https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/delta-electronics/FFB1212SHE-F00/603-1081-ND/1014412


since the gear has a lot of fans  you save some power over the one you mentioned.

now the ffb1212vhe  uses same power   and moves  170 cfm  that may be an improvement of course the gear will be 1 inch  deeper using that one.

 He may  do that when the more power gpus are available to him.

I will find the 70c reference in the stock review.

"From another angle, you can see the twelve Delta brushless fans that keep the 16x NVIDIA P106-100 GPUs cool. These are the class of fans we commonly see in servers instead of consumer focused fans, and they move a lot of air. Our GPUs were kept sub 70C without issue."

"The system performed extremely well during a few weeks of testing. We did not see any issues during our testing in a 72F / 22.2C data center."


See the two references. Temps may be an issue in an 85f room.  But don't fear when I run real world tests  they will be more rugged.  My garage will be 85-90f.  The solar array will be 90-95f   we will see how cool gear stays.

I also plan  to add panels  to direct air flow left and right sides and top and bottom.


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February 25, 2018, 10:06:03 PM
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  Thank you for your clarification on graphics gpu.
The Power back plane is a good option. Will you use it to create redundancy for the psus? Or just to allow for upwards of 5000 watts per unit?

   I would love to  have a unit  with 4-6 psu's on the backplane running 16x  1080ti varients  using about 3200-4000 watts.  Each unit could have its own 20 amp 240volt circuit.  No need for pdus since the software allows  access to the unit world wide.

Oh to all kjs is the person involved with supplying  the demo to me.

Yes, you gain redundancy from the power backplane as well.  In addition we have the ability to be able to power cycle the entire GPU backplane and GPU's from the backplane which enables you to recover from some faults that can only be rectified by power cycling.
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If you use so noisy fans (above 53dBA) why did you select 25mm thickness fans? Delta fan models like ffb1212VHE or even ffb1212SHE with 38mm thicknes has 1.5 times better airflow and air pressure than you use. Also about 70C degree GPU temperatures at datacenter conditions is not good especially for 1060 GPUs. What will be with 1080 or 1080ti GPUs that have 2 times higher power consumtion and correspondingly heat production?

Those fans were determined to be ideal for the application.

In v2 of our GPU backplane we have PWM fan support and will be using this in conjunction with 6 larger fans to run the fans at exactly the speed required to maintain the target GPU temperatures.
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February 26, 2018, 01:38:20 PM
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kjs  Has emailed me with shipping info.

I should get this on Tues the 6th of March

I am looking forward to testing it out.

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February 27, 2018, 05:27:06 PM
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An other option is to donating your GPU computing power (and get MEDIC coins rewards) to support protein folding at home project of Stanford University through MEDIC Coin's folding at home initiative.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2753447.0

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hey i'm glad this review is happening.

I have experience with a few of these units and they are formidable.

cant wait to see the new review.

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hey i'm glad this review is happening.

I have experience with a few of these units and they are formidable.

cant wait to see the new review.

Yeah I want to see how they run in less then ideal spots.

My garage will be hot.
It. Should  be good test.

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That's a great looking rig... I really like the modular design and that PSU is awesome.

Looking forward to hearing about your experience.

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