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May 22, 2018, 11:09:34 PM
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the death penalty for me depends on what crime he did for example:
1. robbers
2. corruption
3. children rapists
4. mutilating a person

things like that should be in the law of death.
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May 22, 2018, 11:14:00 PM
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2. corruption

things like that should be in the law of death.
Good luck killing one billion people
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May 23, 2018, 03:17:09 AM
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Death penalty has its pro and con but I think it has little effect on reducing crimes. Though it does help reducing cost spent on prison. What do you guys think? Is there alternatives to punishing crimes?

Liberals tend to believe that death penalty is having little effect on reducing crimes. But the evidences point towards quite the opposite. And it does not reduce the prison cost. On average, the death row convict spends some 20-25 years in prison before the sentence is carried out. And the costs may be higher, since he is being kept in solitary confinement.

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May 23, 2018, 06:17:28 AM
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Death penalty has its pro and con but I think it has little effect on reducing crimes. Though it does help reducing cost spent on prison. What do you guys think? Is there alternatives to punishing crimes?

Personally I would say that death penalty is a very easy and lenient punishment , especially for hardcore criminals such as serial killers and child rapists. Lethal injection or electric chair makes sure that these people doesn't suffer for more than 60 seconds. I would prefer these people to suffer for the rest of their lives, by doing hard labor in some remote penal colony. 
for countries in which death penalty is not practiced, there are alternative punishments for heinous crimes such as rape,murder, graft and corruption. These are punishable by death but they have down sized it to reclusion perpetua or lifetime inprisonment. But i think doing hard labor for life in remote island will be great. I also think that adding some practices for spiritual rehabilitation should also be included.
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May 24, 2018, 11:44:31 AM
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I think the death penalty is needed for criminals , they get what they deserve, I don't believe they will change.
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May 24, 2018, 12:03:52 PM
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2. corruption

things like that should be in the law of death.
Good luck killing one billion people

You don't need to kill one billion people to eliminate corruption from this planet. You only need to kill 1 million people, who represent the "hardcore corrupt". Once these people are removed, the others will fall in line, either voluntarily or involuntarily.

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I believe in the saying of an eye for an eye, where if a person took a life then his life should be also be taken. But having death penalty have a lot of things to consider. It has its pros which includes decrease in crimes and corruption. But it has also cons where if we would think of it deeper, life is at stake. Having death penalty is just an option to be taken. We can still do other things rather than to take someone's life. We could make the forces of the government be stronger for it to minimize crimes. Death penalty is not the last option to take so we need to at least try other things to solve the problem.

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I know there are pros and cons for death penalty but its the only way for sinners to be afraid and those who were planning the commit a crime have a second thought. Death causes fear even if the person is pure evil. The only alternative for death penalty is life sentence and being isolated in a prison island. I hate to say this but there are rich people who are treated like a king in the prison so if they were taken to someplace where they can't use their wealth, that will be a good alternative.

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it is necessary to settle the prisoners on undeveloped lands, enclose them with a boundary and arrange something like another piece of Alaska, where they can be exiled. To give an opportunity to those who are dissatisfied with the Russian state, to create their own - even small, but fair. Yes, there will live jack-rippers, zodiacs, bonnies and clays.
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Many crimes are commited everyday. Some of those involve killings and of course, they need to be punished. Death penalty is use as part of castigation process for the criminals to be punished. Yet, many people are still in discourse regarding this issue. If not all are agreeing with this, then what punishment we can pursue as an alternative for death penalty? I think reclusion perpetua or lifetime imprisonment is still the righteous punishment. With this, the one who give the punishment does not have to commit the same deed that the criminals do. Besides, lifetime imprisonment is as equal as death. Because in prison, you do not have 'life' to live for.

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The desire to replace the death penalty with life imprisonment has shown that the public was opposed to the abolition of the death penalty. In such cases, a rational criminal-executive policy should be applied. The British experience demonstrates very clearly and clearly how the best intentions at the time of the abolition of the death penalty entailed serious problems for the government. Here are some statistics. For example, in the UK, about 6307 people serving life sentences
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Most crime is due to needs.

Though some are because of the pleasure they are feeling whenever they kill someone. I do not know how killing someone become pleasurable but they are doing it wrong.


I would say that crime is a result of political failure.

It is, but not really providing education or job, it is way more than that. Some murderers seek truth it may be a revenge. The government can't answer that with things or education, they need to cure them using psychology.


Sure there are still rapists and murderers, there will always be a small percentage of mentally ill individuals that perpetrate these crimes. Killing them isn't going to do anything. What we should be doing is studying them and trying to figure out how to identify these people in their youth so that we can watch them and also maybe one day find a way to help them be normal.

We all know that that certain murderer will never be normal again, and I know you know that. People knows what he has done, as they say it, murderers will always be murderers even though that murderer is changing himself, people will always look at him as a murderer.

I don't disagree death penalty. Without it, these crminals will not fear anything even the government. We also have a lot of criminals that is so powerful they became untouchable, do you think studying will help them? No, they are a danger to other people. Yes, I know people can change, but it don't usually always work like that.

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June 16, 2018, 11:04:14 PM
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Unfortunately, it is very hard to say definitively about this kind of thing. A major concern is that a person who is innocent can be sentenced to death, and after the deed is done - there is absolutely no way to absolve them of their crimes. It is not just a theory, it has happened many times in some US states that still have or have had capital punishment until recently.

On the other hand, it is claimed that death sentence significantly decreases crime rate. For example Singapore authorities explain the fact that drug use and the distribution is extremely low because they punish any drug related crimes with death. It is still a matter of debate how much of what they say is true, but you can't argue that people do follow the law very closely in Singapore.
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I believe the death penalty is a waste of human resources so I replace of the death penalty, the criminal should be made to work free for the state for live and he or she restricted from enjoying some rights and freedoms.
That's the best idea, make them work, but sometimes the resources needed to guard and protect them during this work are more expensive than the work they are doing. That's why labor camps are so rare these days. You have to give them tools, make sure those tools are in good condition, sometimes provide transportation to and from work, make sure they won't kill each other with the provided tools, feed them well so they have strength to work.

I'd make blood donors out of them. Feed them well and drain them once every month. This way they would be able to save some lives and pay for the food and accomodation that they are given.

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I like the idea of replacing death penalty for letting them work for free. If your concern is about guarding them, it's easy. Put them on a wide-area and the guards above to watch them. As much as possible I don't want to see someone ending his life, I have compassion whether he committed crime or not it's still life but I know what it feels to be the victim of those criminals so telling something for an alternative to death penalty is really hard. But this can be a good idea if they insist and still didn't want to follow, heavier punishment will do.



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June 20, 2018, 12:53:30 AM
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Some crimes really need death Penalty due to Severity of crime or Madness in individual Human being.

Many may be possible getting Death Penalty due to resemblance of crime in past. 

If jails become Equipped and make facility of Education for Prisoners , there is possibility of reducing Death Penalty and Prisoner can realize there mistake while studying.


Some crimes really need death penalty? I'm sorry, what? Think about it again - who exactly needs death penalty?
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June 20, 2018, 01:07:48 AM
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The death penalty is the easy way out for a hardcore criminal. Why make it easy for them? People commit suicide to escape life's pain, you want to help relieve the pain of hardcore criminals?

Solitary confinement is perfect. Solitary confinement for as little as a month will drive someone insane. I say we give these people LIFE in solitary confinement. If they survive 20 years in solitary confinement, it'll feel like they've been in there for 100 years.

Problem solved.
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June 20, 2018, 01:04:04 PM
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I think you can look it from several prespectives ,one is that if you give him sentence of life in prison you need to feed him,educate him give them all primary life sources and that cost the hole state, so there is a question why normal people need to pay trought tax for them when that money can be use for better things first for education for prevention this kind of crimes, so if you look it like that its better death penalty,but if you look it the other way death penalty is better choise for many of them thats why a lot of them try suicide to make it easy for them selfs they dont want to rot in jail for rest of their lifes....i like the last comment from quantum21 maybe solitary confinement woudnt be bad idea because death penalty or life without parol is not enought punish for lot of them

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June 20, 2018, 01:43:03 PM
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I think you can look it from several prespectives ,one is that if you give him sentence of life in prison you need to feed him,educate him give them all primary life sources and that cost the hole state, so there is a question why normal people need to pay trought tax for them when that money can be use for better things first for education for prevention this kind of crimes, so if you look it like that its better death penalty,but if you look it the other way death penalty is better choise for many of them thats why a lot of them try suicide to make it easy for them selfs they dont want to rot in jail for rest of their lifes....i like the last comment from quantum21 maybe solitary confinement woudnt be bad idea because death penalty or life without parol is not enought punish for lot of them



Why should normal people pay for their lives in prison?

Well.. why should normal people be asked to kill someone? You know.. someone is striking that axe/injecting that poison. We, humans, as a community should look after our own no matter what. If we collectively share the price is it really that bad? Mind you, for a greater good as well. For a second chance. Now if we have an executioner.. that is rolling the responsibility from a collective to 1 person / a small group of people.

Executioners also get paid from you tax money. So is another death justified? Does money really outweigh another persons life?

In my opinion no, it does not - everybody deserves another chance.

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June 20, 2018, 03:13:19 PM
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Most countries have people who have been sentenced to death but the country has not undertaken the action of killing that particular prisoner. Governments are afraid that the blood of these people will be on their hand so no need to sign for them to be killed. To me the alternative punishment to death penalty is life imprisonment. People may argue that the person will still be a burden on the state because the state has to cater for accommodation, feeding and clothing. But the real deal is that the prisoner will also work for the state. He or she could be a relevant capital asset to the state. Most sentence statement read by judges end with hard labour. So this labour will provide adequate support to the prison service and to the state as a whole.
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