[ANN] Ripple is officially open-source! w/link

[thejepper]

Is anyone running a competing network yet? If no, why?

There is more information on forks here, especially the second one, splash, looks promising but there is little new information on it.
https://ripple.com/wiki/Forks

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[mah87]

Is anyone running a competing network yet? If no, why?

because it's not as easy as creating bullshit coins... RippeLabs has more than 40people working on Ripple Network now ^^

[mah87]

Is anyone running a competing network yet? If no, why?

There is more information on forks here, especially the second one, splash, looks promising but there is little new information on it.
https://ripple.com/wiki/Forks

Thanks, interesting.

As usual, mah87's reply is retarded. If you claim your thing is open source, you have to make everything possible for it to be forked, this includes proper documentation, releasing all needed tools, etc.

You think forking things are easy, THIS is retarded.

[mah87]

Is anyone running a competing network yet? If no, why?

There is more information on forks here, especially the second one, splash, looks promising but there is little new information on it.
https://ripple.com/wiki/Forks

Thanks, interesting.

As usual, mah87's reply is retarded. If you claim your thing is open source, you have to make everything possible for it to be forked, this includes proper documentation, releasing all needed tools, etc.

You think forking and build interesting things is easy, THIS is retarded.

[Sukrim]

Is anyone running a competing network yet? If no, why?

There is more information on forks here, especially the second one, splash, looks promising but there is little new information on it.
https://ripple.com/wiki/Forks

Thanks, interesting.

As usual, mah87's reply is retarded. If you claim your thing is open source, you have to make everything possible for it to be forked, this includes proper documentation, releasing all needed tools, etc.

Well, while it is easy to fork Ripple right now (just as Bitcoin in its inception) the network effect is still strong with RippleLabs.
While the technical part (rippled, the client, ripplecharts...) ist just copy-paste, you would have a harder time to convince people to actually accept and use your fork.

There is no "claim", there is PROOF it is open source:
https://github.com/ripple/ <-- all code for several different projects is in there, all under a permissive license. Also you are posting in the very announcement thread for this stuff... why do you speak of "claims"?

[Sukrim]

Releasing non-working source code, or incomplete source code, then claiming it's open source for publicity is common practice in the industry.
Which is why I was asking for examples of working forks. And I got an answer. So please, stop being retarded or at least learn how software works.

Rippled compiles, runs, builds history and behaves as advertised.

Could you give an example for this "common practice" where a company claims their software is fully open source but it actually is not working or incomplete?

Also I stopped being retarded, thanks for the nice reminder.

[Lohoris]

Is anyone running a competing network yet? If no, why?

There is more information on forks here, especially the second one, splash, looks promising but there is little new information on it.
https://ripple.com/wiki/Forks

Thanks, interesting.

As usual, mah87's reply is retarded. If you claim your thing is open source, you have to make everything possible for it to be forked, this includes proper documentation, releasing all needed tools, etc.

You think forking and build interesting things is easy, THIS is retarded.

+1

or you really think you just can "fork Gnome"? Can you do that, if you want to?

pankkake, I'm again disappointed. You are either obviously trolling, or you have shut down your brain completely.
(and that's a pity, because usually you gave good replies...)

[ElectricMucus]

retarded

retards

At this point this word is all I'll be using in regards to the still remaining ripple haters.

[knightcoin]

The problem with ripple they still confusing the general public, instead say "100 billion ripple" etc. (so why not DOGE instead ? ) they should compare strait to paypal system ...

[mah87]

The problem with ripple they still confusing the general public, instead say "100 billion ripple" etc. (so why not DOGE instead ? ) they should compare strait to paypal system ...

They don't communicate to masses yet, that's why don't like it, yet.

[Lohoris]

Anyone can fork Gnome, and, say, call it Dwarf.
The documentation and the tools to build it are there. And you can run it on your system.

Please, try to learn how software works before opening your mouths, learn to read, and stop being such retards. You guys are really testing my patience (besides mah87 the serial scammer where I didn't expect anything more).
Really, Ripple satisfies my criteria of being open source, and you guys are still nitpicking on things you obviously don't understand.

I perfectly know how software works, so I can easily understand how a huge amount of work would be to replicate something as the ripple network.

It will not happen simply because it makes no sense to do that: 1:1 clones are worthless, just like for Bitcoin.

[Sukrim]

Unfortunately there is no real released fork of Ripple so far, NWO seems to have decided he wants to write his own software, Splash so far has just a thread with intentions and nothing more and ProtoShares wnats to implement consensus but that's only the double spend prevention part.

It would be possible of course, depending on what you want to do, you might be wise to stay back for a while longer until rippled gets a bit more stable and the refactoring efforts are completed. They recently hired a guy for developer relations though, so if someone reads this and thinks of starting something, please contact RippleLabs by all means!

[yvv]

Oh so there is no actual working fork?

So again, as long as someone can't run an identical Ripple network, it's not open source. Thank you all!

If there is no working fork yet, it does not mean that nobody can make it. RL released sources of rippled just several month ago, making ripple completely open source. A fork can not pop up by itself overnight. In first place, somebody should be willing to spend time and efforts on it.

[yvv]

Unfortunately there is no real released fork of Ripple so far

Making fork is a waste of time. If someone have free time, it is better to spend it either on improving ripple by providing third party software on top of ripple protocol, or on developing true ripple competitor with better features.

[Sukrim]

Oh so there is no actual working fork?

So again, as long as someone can't run an identical Ripple network, it's not open source. Thank you all!

Nobody can run an identical Bitcoin network either, as that would be a hardfork of the block chain. "Bitcoin" is defined as the Satoshi block chain. You can however more or less easil change a few things in the code (checkpoints...), create a new genesis block and run a new network with the same rules as Bitcoin.

It's the same with Ripple - you can compile and run a node in the OpenCoin ledger chain or you can create your own (even easier than with Bitcoin, as there are no checkpoint hashes afaik.). This would (just like a "Bitcoin2" with a different genesis block) however be a full hard fork of the current ledger, so you (just as with Bitcoin) won't be able to transfer anything to/from people using the mainline network.

If you want to go further, you can also change rules inside Ripple too (e.g. start with 100 instead of 100 billion XRP, create new ledgers every 3.14 seconds...) and so on. Calling something not "open source" (which is a quite well defined term - rippled even is "free software") because nobody bothered to do that is a bit... strange.

Here are some "forks" (mostly working branches from developers for the mainline implementation though): https://github.com/ripple/rippled/network

[Lohoris]

Ok, I give up, he's trolling.

[yvv]

Retard.

Yury. Nice to meet you, Mister Retard.

[mah87]

Nobody can run an identical Bitcoin network either, as that would be a hardfork of the block chain.

Look, I mean "works the same as". You're nitpicking because you have nothing else to say.
And the github notion of "fork" is not what I meant either, obviously.
 
Fucking fuck. The level of stupidity here. I know, this is Bitcointalk, and worse, the Altcoin subforum. I should expect it.

Let me explain it in another way for you retards. There is only one "open source" criteria: "Is it possible to altcoin Ripple?" Now please state Yes or No, explain why, but stop bullshitting on things you obviously do not understand.

The answer is yes. This is so obvious that people are going beyond this thought which is far more interesting.

https://github.com/ripple

You can setup anything and start your own Nipple network if you want.

[yvv]

Nobody can run an identical Bitcoin network either, as that would be a hardfork of the block chain.

Look, I mean "works the same as". You're nitpicking because you have nothing else to say.
And the github notion of "fork" is not what I meant either, obviously.
 
Fucking fuck. The level of stupidity here. I know, this is Bitcointalk, and worse, the Altcoin subforum. I should expect it.

Let me explain it in another way for you retards. There is only one "open source" criteria: "Is it possible to altcoin Ripple?" Now please state Yes or No, explain why, but stop bullshitting on things you obviously do not understand.


To explain further, look at what the NXT developer did when he released the source code. He said it was released voluntarily with flaws. Was that open source? Fuck no.

Another example: https://github.com/riecoin/riecoin/tree/9caaa5e7e15d778d9aadce58de4430c012492fff this is not open source
But this is: https://github.com/riecoin/riecoin/tree/bcf104b1e7fc1d0be6dbc8cd60b3621dbfa0b839

OMG!

You, fucking retard, do not understand that "open source" means that software source codes are distributed under open license, which is the case with ripple. And if you would not be a fucking retard, you would be able to go to github, clone ripple code, and start your own ledger. There are people, who are not as stupid as yourself, retard, and they are doing this right now.

[Sukrim]

There is only one "open source" criteria: "Is it possible to altcoin Ripple?" Now please state Yes or No, explain why[...].

I'll just skip over the profanity you posted and give you the answer you seem ignorant about for quite a while now:

Yes, it is perfectly possible to start a new ledger independently from the one that OpenCoin started ~1 year ago. In fact, that's even the default(!) mode if you just run rippled with no further switches...
This is also clearly stated in the original announcement from half a year ago.

Your definition of "open source" is by the way not one that is shared by many people and I would recommend to find a different term for that specific requirement of yours ("forkability"?), as "open source" as well as "free software/FLOSS" are actually quite well defined and do not mean what you try to underline with your expletives.