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The first fair-launch pure Proof of Stake coin. No premine. No ICO. Community focused.
Back again, better than ever, stronger than before.
24 Feb 2014 06:00 UTC

ABOUT

BPoS Blackcoin's original fully Proof of Stake security that revolutionised the industry and Proof of Stake technology.
AUSTRIAN CONSENSUS Designed with the stakeholder in mind. The consensus is done based on the weight of your stake.
ECO-FRIENDLY No more power hungry mining hardware.
TRANSPARENT LEDGER Everyone shares the bank history, so it's entirely transparent.
FAST TRANSACTIONS You can send money to anyone in the world within seconds.
OPEN SOURCE The software (wallet) is open source, so its safety can be audited.
OPEN COMMUNITY No more single points of failure. Anyone is free to come and go.


ADDITIONAL FEATURES

ATOMIC SWAPS Cross-chain swapping of Blackcoin is now here with other supported digital currencies.
IRIS Iris is a multi-signature wallet with a colored coins support. Create your assets on the Blackcoin network.
PAYBLK Easy-to-use, open-source, multiplatform (supporting 7 platforms), multisignature, secure Blackcoin wallet platform for both individuals and companies.
BLACKHALO BlackHalo is the world's first fully functional contracting software. Eliminate theft and deception for good, using BlackHalo's unique double deposit system.
BLACKSIGHT Blacksight is an open-source BlackCoin blockchain explorer with complete REST and WebSocket APIs.
BLACKCOIN PLAYGROUND Interactively learn the fundamentals of Blackcoin using the Blackcore JavaScript library.


COMMUNITY RESOURCES

WEBSITE
BOUNTIES
REDDIT
TWITTER
TELEGRAM
GITTER
IRC freenode.net #blackcoin
QQ 21670486


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SPECIFICATIONS

Max reorganization depth 500 blocks
Block time 64 seconds
Difficulty retarget every block
PoS Reward 1.5 BLK
Min transaction fee 0.0001 BLK
Confirmations 10
Maturity 500
Min stake confirmations 500
P2P port 15714
RPC port 15715


Initial Proof of Work phase

Algorithm Scrypt
Block reward 10000 BLK, no halving
Max height 10000 (after this network will not accept PoW)
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reserved

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reserved pool #2
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Russian translation reserved, if needed
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Where is the block explorer link?

Is any mining pool active yet?
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I think PoW already over. Old coin.

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This is one of the first altcoins with a multitude of altcoins forking it's code over the years. PoW phase is well over.
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February 25, 2018, 02:28:18 PM
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block is 4 yeahs ago,so big.........
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ok thanks  Smiley
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Relaunch or repost?

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block is 4 yeahs ago,so big.........
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Are you Chinese?
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Relaunch or repost?
relaunch maybe  Grin
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My god! The website only has chat entrance! No information about this project and scrip!
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My god! The website only has chat entrance! No information about this project and scrip!

what r u talking about, buddy. site is overfilled with info.
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February 25, 2018, 03:56:28 PM
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Interesting project. It seems that the speed of transactions is high and its cost is low. I do not understand what kind of funny slider? BLK from 0 to 500?
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Where is the block explorer link?

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/blk/
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Why the new thread ?
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Why the new thread ?

Going to try skirt around the drama, but long story short, developer abandoned the project, renamed Blackcoin and is forcing a fork without consensus. Being Blackcoin's birthday, suiting for us to continue without him and wish him all the best.
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I think PoW already over. Old coin.
Blackcoin is 4 yrs. old as of yesterday with continuous and current ongoing development and a thriving community. There is no mining and no miners to support or to use their power to extort the devs and community with. Blackcoin uses its "proof-of-stake" (PoS) operation to protect its blockchain in place of the miners. By maintaining an open wallet on your running computer the user is rewarded with staking coins. The more Blackcoin you have in your wallet the more frequently you will receive a stake reward. With its age, PoS operation, and its active community Blackcoin has a lot to offer and well worth investigating. We have a lot going on.
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hi dev, do you have any calculator for pos reward ?
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hi dev, do you have any calculator for pos reward ?

On the website there is a slider that calculates over the year, compound interest.
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EXCHANGES

BITTREX
POLONIEX
SHAPE SHIFT
UPBIT
CRYPTOPIA
TUXEXCHANGE
AEX
COINEGG
BLEU TRADE
BIT-Z
LIVECOIN
COINEXCHANGE.io

When I read something like this I know it's scam. it's a shit coin and the dev is a dreamer. good luck with these crap
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EXCHANGES

BITTREX
POLONIEX
SHAPE SHIFT
UPBIT
CRYPTOPIA
TUXEXCHANGE
AEX
COINEGG
BLEU TRADE
BIT-Z
LIVECOIN
COINEXCHANGE.io

When I read something like this I know it's scam. it's a shit coin and the dev is a dreamer. good luck with these crap

Those are links to every single exchange market we are on, click them. This coin isn't new. We've been around since baby days.
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Need a Dutch translation Smiley ?

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UPBIT
CRYPTOPIA
TUXEXCHANGE
AEX
COINEGG
BLEU TRADE
BIT-Z
LIVECOIN
COINEXCHANGE.io

When I read something like this I know it's scam. it's a shit coin and the dev is a dreamer. good luck with these crap

Made yourself look a bit silly with those comments mate
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This coin has celebrated 4th anniversary yesterday. It is still favorite of many people and once SEC will take action against ICO's tokens we wil see reverse trend towards these coins. Blackcoin will shine once again with full light like it was doing in previous years.
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This coin has celebrated 4th anniversary yesterday. It is still favorite of many people and once SEC will take action against ICO's tokens we wil see reverse trend towards these coins. Blackcoin will shine once again with full light like it was doing in previous years.

Aye! Fair launch for all. Proof of Stake likely will get it's hay day again eventually. Everyone is all about mining but the typical cycle goes once it is no longer profitable, people explore PoS.
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Why the new thread ?

Going to try skirt around the drama, but long story short, developer abandoned the project, renamed Blackcoin and is forcing a fork without consensus. Being Blackcoin's birthday, suiting for us to continue without him and wish him all the best.

I think it's worth noting that Blackcoin does still have active developers doing amazing stuff and have been doing so for years while the original guy who launched the coin faded into obscurity. Blackcoin is a pure community driven effort, a totally unique proposition in this day and age. And has proven itself over 4 years as reliable and solid. Maybe this thread will find some people who've never heard of it. It's worth getting involved, anyone can make a difference here.
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SHAPE SHIFT
UPBIT
CRYPTOPIA
TUXEXCHANGE
AEX
COINEGG
BLEU TRADE
BIT-Z
LIVECOIN
COINEXCHANGE.io

When I read something like this I know it's scam. it's a shit coin and the dev is a dreamer. good luck with these crap

Made yourself look a bit silly with those comments mate
Hahaha! You got that right. Noobs gotta noob though.
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I think it's worth noting that Blackcoin does still have active developers doing amazing stuff and have been doing so for years while the original guy who launched the coin faded into obscurity. Blackcoin is a pure community driven effort, a totally unique proposition in this day and age. And has proven itself over 4 years as reliable and solid. Maybe this thread will find some people who've never heard of it. It's worth getting involved, anyone can make a difference here.

That's key here. Nobody has leverage on this coin. Not even the original developer is able to control and use it for his agenda. That's quite impressive.

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I don't like the calculator on the website. It's confusing newcomers and it doesn't specify what conditions it uses. 

However, here's how you can predict how much interest you will get on a full year staking: 

The staking reward is 0.98% annual interest.
This inflation is distributed according to network weight.
Typical network weight fluctuates between 18m and 21m coins staking.
There are 76.7m coins in circulation right now.  
76.7 / 18 = 4.3% annual interest
76.7 / 21 = 3.6% annual interest  

Which means that you can expect between 3.6% - 4.3% dividend on your wallet amount.

Slaves mine. Leaders stake.
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I am holding some Blackcoin. Should I be worried now in any way and I have no clue who this DrDolittle guy is. Anything important going on that I should know?

The DrDolittle guy is (unless someone else managed to obtain not only the 2 accounts on here but also the original BLK address) rat4, the original developer of BlackCoin.
While he used to communicate with the community and other developers in the past, he suddenly ceased to do so.
Other devs, most notably janko33, started to build a new wallet, integrated colored coins, atomic swaps and so on on top of the original BLK protocol - w/o rat4/DrDolittle - as they had to assume that he abandoned the project (read the posts of the last days to get a feeling for it).
Totally out of the blue rat4/DrDolittle announced that BLK will no longer be BLK and is going to be forked into "BlackNet", obviously assuming that everyone, including exchanges and the community, will follow.

Current situation is:

1. BLK will continue according to the plans and works of janko33 and his group, with BLK being updated to include the improvements from the latest bitcoin core base. That version of BLK will (also) require a fork but stick to the current BLK PoS protocol that is proven by BLK itself and a couple of thousand forks. We do believe, that that version will stay listed on the exchanges.

2. rat4/DrDolittle will at some point "take a BLK snapshot" and fork into his "new Blacknet", though nobody but him (and maybe his secret circle) knows what that is going to mean, what technology it is going to use, if and how it is going to be tested in public etc. You can at this point only obtain Blacknet coins/token/whatever by holding BLK at the moment of the not yet announced snapshot.

Hope that helps,
@janko/gritt feel free to correct me if I am wrong with anything, due to family stuff I could not follow our gitter and other sources closely.

this post is copied from the original BLK thread.
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Lovely, let's get Iconic Expert on board for added nostalgia.

Thanks for putting BLK back in my radar though, didn't know there were any dramas.

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Lovely, let's get Iconic Expert on board for added nostalgia.

Thanks for putting BLK back in my radar though, didn't know there were any dramas.


How about we skip the IE part, once was enough. Right now we're working on what we need to to keep Blackcoin strong and relevant. Part of that involves moving away from a single dev to a dev team, that was not an intentional part of the plan but when your original dev seemingly abandons you with zero communication there is no other choice if you want to keep the project alive. Nobody is wishing ill on rat4, in fact, we wish he were still a part of the team but things moved on in his absence out of necessity.
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How about we skip the IE part, once was enough. Right now we're working on what we need to to keep Blackcoin strong and relevant. Part of that involves moving away from a single dev to a dev team, that was not an intentional part of the plan but when your original dev seemingly abandons you with zero communication there is no other choice if you want to keep the project alive. Nobody is wishing ill on rat4, in fact, we wish he were still a part of the team but things moved on in his absence out of necessity.

I also wish that rat4 would still play a part in Blackcoin's development. But we can't wait forever as Blackcoin needs to go forward to face the evergrowing competition. Janko33 has been doing great job and I have utmost trust that he will continue to do that. We might re-evaluate this situation once rat4 can produce detailed explanation about future of BLK and his attendance.
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How about we skip the IE part, once was enough. Right now we're working on what we need to to keep Blackcoin strong and relevant. Part of that involves moving away from a single dev to a dev team, that was not an intentional part of the plan but when your original dev seemingly abandons you with zero communication there is no other choice if you want to keep the project alive. Nobody is wishing ill on rat4, in fact, we wish he were still a part of the team but things moved on in his absence out of necessity.

I also wish that rat4 would still play a part in Blackcoin's development. But we can't wait forever as Blackcoin needs to go forward to face the evergrowing competition. Janko33 has been doing great job and I have utmost trust that he will continue to do that. We might re-evaluate this situation once rat4 can produce detailed explanation about future of BLK and his attendance.

This reflects my sentiments too. If he makes a 360*, even on new chain, I wouldn't mind providing support to both projects. But at this time, seems unlikely.
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Huge BLK  Cool
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Circle has bought Poloniex for $400m.
http://fortune.com/2018/02/26/circle-cryptocurrency-trade-bitcoin/

BLK has been listed on Polo since 2014, should receive some more attention once the institutionals start diversifying and Circle is a great in-road for them Smiley
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Circle has bought Poloniex for $400m.
http://fortune.com/2018/02/26/circle-cryptocurrency-trade-bitcoin/

BLK has been listed on Polo since 2014, should receive some more attention once the institutionals start diversifying and Circle is a great in-road for them Smiley

Yeah, quite good news for sure.
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Thats a nice price Poloniex got, probably a good thing for them to have  revamp or whatever.


Where is the block explorer link?

Is any mining pool active yet?

There are mining pools which will play in BLK if you request it.   I just exchange manually, the coin is not mined directly only via Stake in a wallet

Explorer
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/blk/
https://prohashing.com/explorer/Blackcoin/



EXCHANGES

BITTREX
POLONIEX
SHAPE SHIFT
UPBIT
CRYPTOPIA
TUXEXCHANGE
AEX
COINEGG
BLEU TRADE
BIT-Z
LIVECOIN
COINEXCHANGE.io

When I read something like this I know it's scam.

   This looks like a new thread maybe but its just refresh of a forum presence on Bitcointalk since 2014.    Load up or google Bittrex and Blackcoin is on the front page.   Its been listed for donkeys years, do a little more research or you will miss out on some genuinely good projects.   Do people just trash talk new threads, I guess.

There is no mining on this coin except if maybe via mine ETH or whatever and then exchange it across, all wallet holders then Stake which is very low power idle type mining I think it can be described or interest on your balance is how I view it.  The BLK price was a fair bit higher in Jan then now, its not especially late to build up a stake even if just noticing BLK now imo

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February 27, 2018, 06:08:24 AM
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Another explorer: https://bitinfocharts.com/blackcoin/

Gritt, could you add all of these explorers to OP?
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not very bad volume on bittrex. But there is only one question. The coin is 4 yo. Why was the topic created only now?

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not very bad volume on bittrex. But there is only one question. The coin is 4 yo. Why was the topic created only now?

The current volume is actually extremely low (as always when BTC is going up or down).

The original thread is this one with nearly 2.5 Million visits, please read the last pages there or for a (very brief) summary of the situation this post - you will know why there is this "fresh" BLK thread and I don't need to type it all again ;-)
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Why the new thread ?

Going to try skirt around the drama, but long story short, developer abandoned the project, renamed Blackcoin and is forcing a fork without consensus. Being Blackcoin's birthday, suiting for us to continue without him and wish him all the best.

So, I should stick to v1.2.4 for staking ?
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Why the new thread ?

Going to try skirt around the drama, but long story short, developer abandoned the project, renamed Blackcoin and is forcing a fork without consensus. Being Blackcoin's birthday, suiting for us to continue without him and wish him all the best.

So, I should stick to v1.2.4 for staking ?

1.2.5 was released and is fully compatible with ongoing development of Lore which you can also use. Neither of these clients are breaking away from the “norm” as it stands tho Lore may move away and branch out eventually to continue to progress BLK. The blacknet or whatever rat4/dolittle is doing will be a totally different proposition but not a single line of code has been shown to exist yet.
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Thats a nice price Poloniex got, probably a good thing for them to have  revamp or whatever.


I think you underestimate their plans. Circle are backed by Goldman Sachs and their aim is to turn Poloniex into a fully legalised and regulated fiat exchange with multiple currency support - a direct competitor to coinbase, meaning onboarding noobs and generating a lot more interest in their offerings.
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Another explorer: https://bitinfocharts.com/blackcoin/

Gritt, could you add all of these explorers to OP?

No idea how I had missed that one.
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So, I should stick to v1.2.4 for staking ?

The latest LORE wallet release is very good, I said this before.  Its totally non hassle for me so gets my thumbs up.   The staking is fine and stable with this last release so I appreciate that.  Of course its upto you which you prefer but it was straight forward for me.  

Thats a nice price Poloniex got, probably a good thing for them to have  revamp or whatever.


I think you underestimate their plans. Circle are backed by Goldman Sachs and their aim is to turn Poloniex into a fully legalised and regulated fiat exchange with multiple currency support - a direct competitor to coinbase, meaning onboarding noobs and generating a lot more interest in their offerings.

Well I guessed they would be taking it places.  The price doesnt make sense otherwise, I dont assume they must be successful but its probably good news for all crypto and I hope they are serious about the alt coins including BLK being part of their system.  Will be interesting to watch.

I was having alot of hassle with Poloniex to be honest, it worked but seemed a bit shaky so I gave up on them.   Pretty sure I will have to start an account over, I never verified for years on Bittrex or there anyhow.  Bittrex was speedy enough for me luckily.   The best exchange right now is ?


I suggest to hot link the big BLK logo on the OP to lead to the website.    Just so its not missed where to go for all downloads and more info and so on.   I know theres a link below, but literally a button the size of the page will get more clicks Im sure Smiley

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February 27, 2018, 06:39:40 PM
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 Pretty sure I will have to start an account over, I never verified for years on Bittrex or there anyhow.
Your account should still exist at Poloniex, flagged as "Verification status: Legacy" with a withdrawal limit of 2k USD/day (verified accounts have a limit of 25k USD).
Legacy accounts will be frozen at some point in Q1/2018 according to this press release, it seems most unlikely that the new owner will change anything regarding that verification requirement.
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To stake this coin - profitably, how many do I have to hodl?
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To stake this coin - profitably, how many do I have to hodl?

You can use the calculator on https://blackcoin.co/
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Reserved
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To stake this coin - profitably, how many do I have to hodl?

It's about 4% annual interest assuming a network weight of 19m. The amount of coins you hold don't change the interest percentage. Everyone gets the same.  

The staking process requires negligible energy, wallet runs  >1,0% of the CPU on my pc. It can be run on a casual pc, a laptop or even a raspberry pi.

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March 01, 2018, 06:13:45 PM
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Ahh the good old days. We had so much fun with the sirs etc. Remember having 750k BLK as most Wink

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Ahh the good old days. We had so much fun with the sirs etc. Remember having 750k BLK as most Wink

All the luck and regards dibdab

Have been looking for you good sir!
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I read somehwere that janko needed to fork in order to move forward with developments... Is a fork still going to happen for that reason (not referring to blacknet fork)? Should we be preparing for a BLK fork?

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I read somehwere that janko needed to fork in order to move forward with developments... Is a fork still going to happen for that reason (not referring to blacknet fork)? Should we be preparing for a BLK fork?

Eventually yes, but there need to be tests done to ensure everything is butter smooth. No plans for when that is going to be taking place.

Thanks for your interest.
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I want to inform everybody that my prior Bitcointalk account was hacked, I have now added the number 1 to my old name to the new account. As soon as I was notified by Bitcointalk my account had been compromised I locked the old account and from this point on you should not see new postings from RouletteRun. I'm trying to think of a good way to prove I am me. Suffice it to say, you will never see me asking for or seeking funds from anybody on this forum unless it is sanctioned by the community and everybody is fully aware of a community fundraising effort. I'm a noob again.  Cry Cry Cry
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And looks like there's a bounty going on for the visually endowed. Going to give it a twirl
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Creating tools so Blackcoin can be ruled by the community, no kings like rat or Gritt or me are needed..

https://twitter.com/janko33bd/status/972008857542299648
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EXCHANGES

BITTREX
POLONIEX
SHAPE SHIFT
UPBIT
CRYPTOPIA
TUXEXCHANGE
AEX
COINEGG
BLEU TRADE
BIT-Z
LIVECOIN
COINEXCHANGE.io

When I read something like this I know it's scam. it's a shit coin and the dev is a dreamer. good luck with these crap

This coin is 3 years older than your BT-account, mate. And it has a bunch of other PoS offspring that use it's technology. It's now reorganizing it's core team around the members that been active in the project and working on it constantly over the last 3 years.
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I sold my all not so long ago. Although I do not exclude it, it will grow even more, but the bubble has already been inflated in my opinion to a dull state. There is no practical application for a coin, and it is necessary to appear a more interesting multi-pool, everything will fall to the ground ..
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Nothing outstanding in fact, but the price is very attractive. The wallet is standard, unfortunately I have not found yet confirmed on-line purses (it seems like there is a kriptonator, but I can not get there, since no confirmation comes to any mail)
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Hello, saw this new thread for Blackcoin but don't understand what is currently on going with Blackcoin and the old thread what is renewed to blacknet.

Pi is a new digital currency being developed by a group of Stanford PhDs. For a limited time, you can join the beta to earn Pi and help grow the network. To join Pi, follow this link https://minepi.com/cryptomeneer and use my username (cryptomeneer) as your invitation code.
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how to install blackcoin wallet?
I always failed
I will hold blackcoin and want to mining BLK

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Back again, better than ever, stronger than before.
do the author come back again? the author has dissapear long time!

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Back again, better than ever, stronger than before.
do the author come back again? the author has dissapear long time!

We have always been around. Janko has taken up much of the lead development with his team called Blackcoin "Lore".
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how to install blackcoin wallet?
I always failed
I will hold blackcoin and want to mining BLK

Take the Lore wallet
http://blackcoin.co/#downloads

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Say something...
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Back again, better than ever, stronger than before.
do the author come back again? the author has dissapear long time!

We have always been around. Janko has taken up much of the lead development with his team called Blackcoin "Lore".

New passion for Blackcoin, certainly with the return of the author and take many developers will be a stronger team
and quick to achieve satisfactory results.
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On Reddit and Twitter the misery that comes with ICO tokens is slowly starting to seep into the community's awareness. Tokens are going bust, companies like EOS are dumping massive amounts of Ethereum, any holder of such tokens will be the last to know when that shit happens, and by then it will be too late. 

People want stability. And stability comes from lean coins, coins that don't rely on a treasury and/or continuous revenue stream to build their projects.

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On Reddit and Twitter the misery that comes with ICO tokens is slowly starting to seep into the community's awareness. Tokens are going bust, companies like EOS are dumping massive amounts of Ethereum, any holder of such tokens will be the last to know when that shit happens, and by then it will be too late. 

People want stability. And stability comes from lean coins, coins that don't rely on a treasury and/or continuous revenue stream to build their projects.

This is really well said. Thank you. I just joined this forum. I'm interested in Blackcoin. As far as its age. It reminds me of ECC: being an older coin with new things on the horizon. Potential for the price to go up again would you say? That's great that it's listed on so many large exchanges like poloniex, bittrex, and cryptopia. That must make for a lot of volume. Up until today I had not heard of Blackcoin until I saw it had one of the top ratings on Cryptopia (I use cryptopia a lot). cheers. Cool
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You should contact Coinmarketcap https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/blackcoin/#markets to change ann page link.  Wink

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You should contact Coinmarketcap https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/blackcoin/#markets to change ann page link.  Wink

I had already, twice. No response.
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Hi. Does BLK have a max coin supply by any chance? I'm looking to invest and hodl a privacy PoS coin with a max coin limit. Thanks

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Arent those two ideas in conflict.   The POW form of the coin ended years ago, so that part was limited and gone forever if that helps you.  The coin is now all POS where confirmation of transactions involves staking and a small 1.5 Blackcoin reward for the wallet that stakes.   Very simply it would be like a queuing system, or a kind of basic interest yield to holding any amount of coins in a wallet.    
   I've not read any proposal to remove the stake reward but you can see the amount increased is very steady, set amount and known in advance and all the new coins go back to wallet holders, not outside miners or anyone else who doesnt hold BLK.   Its way fairer and more efficient then POW and I seriously think it could take over from POW blockchains in the long run.  That would massively enlarge the market for POS generally if true.

The centre of any economy, FIAT, commodity, national or commerce is efficiency, it can destroy itself from within if not efficient and able to compete in a global market place.  No outside actors are required to make this true, if POS is more efficient then POW and it surely is then this weight of process is on our side long term.   Its very reasonable to take an interest on BLK imo

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There are three types of caps:

- No cap
- Soft cap
- Hard cap  

Blackcoin's supply cap is 77m (currently existing) +740k (=0.98%) per year approximately.

The 740k is the staking reward that is handed out to the stakers each year. Everyone can stake. No barriers to entry, no delegates, only fairly distributed coins you can buy your way into.   

This is what we call a 'soft cap'. There's still a limit to the amount of coins can exist  at any given time, but the total supply does gradually increase at a flat rate.  

A hard cap is when there's an absolute limit on the total amount of coins that can ever exist, after which the network runs into a 'wall' where the network costs will have to be paid through a different means, usually transaction costs.  

Then there's the 'no cap' coins. These are centralized coins (usually ICO's) that can create new coins out of thin air whenever they want to because they own  100% of the consensus.  


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Ultimately this boils down to the question 'Who pays for the network?'  

- No cap coins are to be treated like companies over which the 'shareholders' have no control over. Everytime they create new supply for themselves they are essentially letting everyone pay for it by inflating their amount. Nobody is able to tell when and by how much other than the core team.  

- Soft cap coins have a clear and stable answer to the question. BLK answers with 'All holders pay 0.98% (to the stakers) per year for the network. If you want to be part of the recipients, then stake, it's easy, cheap, and we encourage it'.  

- Hard cap postpone the answer to the question, often far away into the future. Until then that cap is reached, they are under (often heavy) inflation, and when they finally reach the end, the transaction costs will soar to pay the miners or the stakers. This is perverse, it discourages people from actually making the transactions, the very thing crypto was invented for in the first place.  

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BLK choses this small and stable inflation to keep transaction costs low but enough to encourage as many people to stake. Currently almost one third of all the coins are staking. It's a delicate balance but I think BLK has nailed it.  

The only thing that can be improved is changing the 740k per year to a relative amount, just make it 1%. This means that the proportional inflation will stay the same rather than decrease as time goes on. If 1% is what we consider a good incentive right now, then so should it be in 100%. But this is a subjective point, I fully appreciate other view points on this last bit.  

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I'm very happy to see this project finally come to fruition, this gotta be one of the best thing that could have happened. I am very happy about this. Good job everyone Cheesy Cheesy
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Nice to see this back again ...

We will be watching with anticipation.

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After 4 years it's still my most favourite project by far. Whereas all other coins are trying to tack on more bloat and perverse mechanics, BLK keeps homing in on total minimalism. But hey, if 'back again' works better for marketing purposes then whatever, let's roll with that.

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the idea of the project impresses with its uniqueness and openness.An additional plus in the development of the platform is the lack of physical boundaries between the employee and the employer.This factor will only help to make greater use of the platform's capabilities.
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If the BLK Team adds Binance as a new exchange it will be perfect.
All investors will go to BLK and pump prices.
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If the BLK Team adds Binance as a new exchange it will be perfect.
All investors will go to BLK and pump prices.

Yeah would be great. They want investment to be private as they require an entry price. Maybe we'll do a pot until minimum is hit, but they don't typically want those numbers publicly known.
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BLK is the only coin that the community truly owns 100%.  

There's no other coin that gets PoS completely right. In order for PoS to stay decentralised, it needs to start out fair so that it stays fair. This is because the power of staking is directly linked to the share of coins someone has in the network.    

For PoS to work it needs to meet several conditions:  

- Even dispersion
- No exploitable features (like coinage)  
- No unfair advantages to a singular party.  

If these conditions aren't met, then we enter in a 'rich get richer' situation where a small group accumulates power and wealth and starts controlling the network. Almost every competing PoS coin manages to fuck it up in one way or another, quite impressive actually.

BLK, however, checks all these boxes. BLK stripped away the protocol to it's simplest form, leaving no mechanics that give anyone an edge in staking (and voting), the devs got 0 BLK from the launch, they rely on donations from the community (there's a new crowdfunding feature that will streamline this further).  

The way BLK is set up is ideological, and so far everyone who truly 'gets' this ideal ends up having no other choice than to love this coin.

And it shows! Two months ago the founder of BLK tried to co-opt the coin for his own purposes, the community didn't agree with his lack of transparency and his unclear motives, and thus he wasn't able to do anything. Anything he would do to the coin would end up being an unsupported fork that would have to continue as a whole new coin. It's a powerful case as to who truly decides what happens to the coin: It's us. We own it. We decide.  

There's just always something wrong with mining. Either miners are too powerful or apathetic, or there's these ASIC exploits. In the end mining means users paying a network cost to those who don't use their coin. That's so perverse.  

The crypto sector as a whole is only slowly starting to understand that Proof of Stake will end up being the only option to truly secure value in decentralised network. Everything relies on having as much power in as many hands as possible.

When you realise that Proof of Stake is the only way and why it's the only way, then there's simply nothing that beats BLK.

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BLK is the only coin that the community truly owns 100%.  

There's no other coin that gets PoS completely right. In order for PoS to stay decentralised, it needs to start out fair so that it stays fair. This is because the power of staking is directly linked to the share of coins someone in the network.    

For PoS to work it needs to meet several conditions:  

- Even dispersion
- No exploitable features (like coinage)  
- No unfair advantages to a singular party.  

If these conditions aren't met, then we enter in a 'rich get richer' situation where a small group accumulates power and wealth and starts controlling the network. Almost every competing PoS coin manages to fuck it up in one way or another, quite impressive actually.

BLK, however, checks all these boxes. BLK stripped away the protocol to it's simplest form, leaving no mechanics that give anyone an edge in staking (and voting), the devs got 0 BLK from the launch, they rely on donations from the community (there's a new crowdfunding feature that will streamline this further).  

The way BLK is set up is ideological, and so far everyone who truly 'gets' this ideal ends up having no other choice than to love this coin.

And it shows! Two months ago the founder of BLK tried to co-opt the coin for his own purposes, the community didn't agree with his lack of transparency and his unclear motives, and thus he wasn't able to do anything. Anything he would do to the coin would end up being an unsupported fork that would have to continue as a whole new coin. It's a powerful case as to who truly decides what happens to the coin: It's us. We own it. We decide.   

There's just always something wrong with mining. Either miners are too powerful or apathetic, or there's these ASIC exploits. In the end mining means users paying a network cost to those who don't use their coin. That's so perverse.  

The crypto sector as a whole is only slowly starting to understand that Proof of Stake will end up being the only option to truly secure value in decentralised network. Everything else relies on having as much power in as many hands as possible.

When you realise that Proof of Stake is the only way and why it's the only way, then there's simply nothing that beats BLK.


I love every case point that you have made. I will have to save this comment!
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One point I think needs to be discussed is the flat staking reward. This causes for a decreasing inflation rather than an inflation that stay proportional to total supply.  

With 1.5 BLK per block every 64 seconds, BLK inflates 739,125 per year. That's 0.97% right now, but because it's a static amount each year, this inflation will get lower relative to the total supply.  

So while BLK inlfates, the staking rewards do not.  

I don't think that's a very elegant system. If we agree that 1% inflation is reasonable (which it is) then that should apply in perpetuity. In other words. Each block needs a small increase on the staking reward to keep up with the increasing supply.  

But of course, only if the community reaches consensus on such a change. 

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April 14, 2018, 09:21:05 AM
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In this situation it is better to wait for the situation to be cleared. If I want to buy at any exchange and when to withdraw what will be the coin I receive ? It seems there is some kind of struggle by both sides to take control over the source and project. I am just watching without rushing anything as this is correct way.
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I wouldn't worry. Rat really screwed his plan up diplomatically already. You will get Janko's build (the one that has seen consistent updates and improvements for years now). Here's how it works, there are three possibilities:  

- Rat convinces the consensus his build is BLK and the old fork (ours)  is to be called 'Blacknet'  
- Rat doesn't convince the consensus, BLK stays BLK but he'll get a fork that exchanges support called 'Blacknet'  
- Rat doens't convince the consensus, BLK stays BLK, and he also doesn't get the exchanges on board to get his fork supported.  

The first scenario would be the worst for BLK, because it would require rebranding and everything. However, in order to do that Rat would need to convince all the stakers to support his fork. And that's not going to happen, Gritt already made sure of that by informing the exchanges that offer BLK. Exchanges really hate it when someone tries to sneak in a snapshot airdrop under the radar. They'll simply stake their reserves to lock Rat's idea out and it ends all there. IF they're generous and he's more transparent about the snapshot they might, MIGHT, support his second coin, but he really would have to make huge amends to get that done.  

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Yeah, i agree, lots of promotion are needed for this platform to work. So far it seems quite nice, i'll be waiting for more updates
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Blacknet seems nice? Nobody has any idea what Blacknet is other than Rat. And I doubt he even knows what it is.  

Is the prospect of some free airdrop coin a nice prospect? Sure, but that's not what makes Blackcoin valuable. It's the complete community-ownership that makes it stand out amongst everything else. 

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Why do you think that project is enticing and promising?
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I respect Rat for creating BLK and launching it way that was so fucking perfect that years later I still wouldn't be able to find it's equal. But the way he communicated and co-opted the original ANN thread leads me to think that BLK's launch was so perfect only be accident, unintentional, a fluke. Maybe that's why no other coin was able to replicate it's success.  

But whatever he's trying to do with Blacknet, I really couldn't care less. I don't see how anyone could be excited for for something that's communicated so poorly.  

Meanwhile we're having one of the most industrious developers in crypto, Janko, really killing it by continuously upgrading the wallet. Not just implementing all the Bitcoin core goodies into the Blackcoin client, but also adding in features specifically for staking (like conveniently letting a locked wallet stake, creating more incentive to keep your node running 24/7) and adding in whole new features like Iris token creation.  

That's what makes BLK enticing. There's hardly any funding and yet the coin is one of the most up-to date and well-oiled machines in the cryptosphere.  

People are working their ass off for BLK in various ways, not because some fat ICO warchest is paying them for as long as it lasts, but because they genuinely believe in this project.

Because no 'core team' is getting a free ride here you have every assurance that any money or effort you're putting in this coin won't end up paying some founder's vacation. Everything you put into it will benefit you as well as the community, without anyone sitting on the throne on top raking in all the money, like what's happening with XVG today, fucking disgusting.  


I've been to modest and too restrained about BLK for way too long. Even if the market isn't recognising it for what it is, this coin is the real deal. 

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I respect Rat for creating BLK and launching it way that was so fucking perfect that years later I still wouldn't be able to find it's equal. But the way he communicated and co-opted the original ANN thread leads me to think that BLK's launch was so perfect only be accident, unintentional, a fluke. Maybe that's why no other coin was able to replicate it's success.  

But whatever he's trying to do with Blacknet, I really couldn't care less. I don't see how anyone could be excited for for something that's communicated so poorly.  

Meanwhile we're having one of the most industrious developers in crypto, Janko, really killing it by continuously upgrading the wallet. Not just implementing all the Bitcoin core goodies into the Blackcoin client, but also adding in features specifically for staking (like conveniently letting a locked wallet stake, creating more incentive to keep your node running 24/7) and adding in whole new features like Iris token creation.  

That's what makes BLK enticing. There's hardly any funding and yet the coin is one of the most up-to date and well-oiled machines in the cryptosphere.  

People are working their ass off for BLK in various ways, not because some fat ICO warchest is paying them for as long as it lasts, but because they genuinely believe in this project.

Because no 'core team' is getting a free ride here you have every assurance that any money or effort you're putting in this coin won't end up paying some founder's vacation. Everything you put into it will benefit you as well as the community, without anyone sitting on the throne on top raking in all the money, like what's happening with XVG today, fucking disgusting.  


I've been to modest and too restrained about BLK for way too long. Even if the market isn't recognising it for what it is, this coin is the real deal. 
nice words,i remember this coin i traded them
a couple of years ago, glad to see this topic again here.maybe dev make new project,i  would gladly support him.

 
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It's not that BLK is lacking in projects either. It already has a token creation tool release this year:  

https://iris.blackcoin.io/  

Next step is smart contracts on those tokens. By that point it'll be Ethereum but with the pristine PoS they're trying to figure out for a full year now.  

Biggest challenge is funding due to, again, the whole thing being community funded. For that there'll be a crowdfunding tool, Blacklight that's going to take care of any developers committing to what BLK requires.  

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so i bought alot diffrent coins.

the one i like most is BLK though.


thanks to the genious team for being so open about their coin.

appriciate it.

good coin to hold instead of fiat.
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It's not that BLK is lacking in projects either. It already has a token creation tool release this year:  

https://iris.blackcoin.io/  

Next step is smart contracts on those tokens. By that point it'll be Ethereum but with the pristine PoS they're trying to figure out for a full year now.  

Biggest challenge is funding due to, again, the whole thing being community funded. For that there'll be a crowdfunding tool, Blacklight that's going to take care of any developers committing to what BLK requires.  

Great to see there is still so much active development in BlackCoin.

What language will be used for the smart contracts?

I think that funding will be the biggest challenge indeed, specifically for some more marketing too when the time is right.

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I'm not entirely sure to be honest. Janko was talking about it on Gitter a while ago, he was quite opinionated about it but I forgot and. It's probably also going to need some means of distributing the tokens. Like ERC20 has a very simple ICO algorithm. Most of these ICO companies only need to understand those few lines of code to get their circus going.

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In this situation it is better to wait for the situation to be cleared. If I want to buy at any exchange and when to withdraw what will be the coin I receive ? It seems there is some kind of struggle by both sides to take control over the source and project. I am just watching without rushing anything as this is correct way.

Last I heard the snapshot would be announced beforehand so you should just carry on as you like.   The wait could be such a long time or forever.    Really I think Rat4 is just a very independent thinker, which has its strengths and weaknesses.  IMO its better to go with a team of development open to ideas and discussion as that is more likely to succeed long term.   I dont know crypto will always have plain sailing, it might see alot of gains but also rough seas along the way.   A team of people is going to more easily succeed.

  In political terms, economic, changes to the wider worlds way of backing its FIAT, trade balance, debt situations & possible wars who knows but the world is going to change alot.    Capital controls such as China have existed in other countries during turmoil,  UK  had this extreme regulation at one point.  In the past USA set prices for food centrally for example it was illegal to sell on a free market, this was in the 70's ; my point being the world can become very uneven and uncertain and leaning on only one person for a protocol is not especially stable in extremes imo.
  Even if crypto didnt exist I expected to see great changes occur anyway, this story goes back decades for me and technology hopefully just helps progression away from bits of paper tied to debt.

The bigger struggle will always be the wider worlds challenges, thats the long term prospects to address

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Most coins behave like delicate animals, complex flowers, colorful butterflies, some mythical deer prancing through the woods, niche species that can only survive in a specific habitat with just the right resources, once their revenue stream only sways slightly, they go extinct. You want a coin that needs nothing, an extremophile species that can exist in the darkest most rotten of places, thrive without nutrition and explode in spots where you least expect it. Something like, say, black mould.

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BLK is the only coin that the community truly owns 100%.  

There's no other coin that gets PoS completely right. In order for PoS to stay decentralised, it needs to start out fair so that it stays fair. This is because the power of staking is directly linked to the share of coins someone in the network.    

For PoS to work it needs to meet several conditions:  

- Even dispersion
- No exploitable features (like coinage)  
- No unfair advantages to a singular party.  

If these conditions aren't met, then we enter in a 'rich get richer' situation where a small group accumulates power and wealth and starts controlling the network. Almost every competing PoS coin manages to fuck it up in one way or another, quite impressive actually.

BLK, however, checks all these boxes. BLK stripped away the protocol to it's simplest form, leaving no mechanics that give anyone an edge in staking (and voting), the devs got 0 BLK from the launch, they rely on donations from the community (there's a new crowdfunding feature that will streamline this further).  

The way BLK is set up is ideological, and so far everyone who truly 'gets' this ideal ends up having no other choice than to love this coin.

And it shows! Two months ago the founder of BLK tried to co-opt the coin for his own purposes, the community didn't agree with his lack of transparency and his unclear motives, and thus he wasn't able to do anything. Anything he would do to the coin would end up being an unsupported fork that would have to continue as a whole new coin. It's a powerful case as to who truly decides what happens to the coin: It's us. We own it. We decide.   

There's just always something wrong with mining. Either miners are too powerful or apathetic, or there's these ASIC exploits. In the end mining means users paying a network cost to those who don't use their coin. That's so perverse.  

The crypto sector as a whole is only slowly starting to understand that Proof of Stake will end up being the only option to truly secure value in decentralised network. Everything else relies on having as much power in as many hands as possible.

When you realise that Proof of Stake is the only way and why it's the only way, then there's simply nothing that beats BLK.


I love every case point that you have made. I will have to save this comment!

It's okay, what will remain is two chains. It's possible that it might cause some reinvigorated interest in Blackcoin. And for many years it has remained a strong project.
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My dad is seriously struggling with your chess puzzle book btw. You're torturing him. 

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My dad is seriously struggling with your chess puzzle book btw. You're torturing him. 

Hahaha thanks. Yes some are too difficult even if you use a computer to assist. That indeed was the idea. But of course it's an art form and tactics/mechanics. I've always loved composing... perhaps that is what attracted me to programming over the past 5 years.
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I dont know if someone better placed wants to correct this guy but his idea of Proof of stake seems to be incorrect.  He says Ether is proof of stake ?  He does respond on twitter occasionally I think
https://youtu.be/I4xpZm7JlqU?t=1160

He is giving lectures in many places and is an economist specialised in macro economics.  Formally council for LTCM (foreshadow to Lehmans), he has involvement with the FED but backs gold to take over from Dollar reserve.  He says crypto is money but believes it will fail anyway, would good if he changed his mind on this particular point anyway.  He says byzantine consensus is better then POW or POS

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Yeah I'm hearing that a lot on reddit as well. Many people seem to believe that Ethereum is PoS. Though the truth is that Ethereum still has yet to implement it. Their documentation about their PoS research is great though: 
https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/Proof-of-Stake-FAQ 

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Do you have a new github repo? Last commit was 21 Jan in original one. It does not look like the development continues.

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Do you have a new github repo? Last commit was 21 Jan in original one. It does not look like the development continues.
Blackcoin Lore: https://github.com/janko33bd/bitcoin
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Just check for yourself how diligently Janko works at this. It's insane really.
https://gitter. im/BlackCoin_Hub/Development

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What games are you guys playing. Is there a plan to fork blackcoin.
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What games are you guys playing. Is there a plan to fork blackcoin.

No games only coding Wink

imminent plan is to go for 0.16 btc base, then quickly update goji, trezor, blackcoinj, pharos, rsk....
other fronts can be seen on redit like restyling, more info, wiki, documentation..
and get some businesses involved too
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Recap:
Two people to keep an eye on:  

'Rat'/'Dolittle': Original creator of BLK but really reclusive and non-communicative. Recently appeared after being gone for nearly a year.

janko33bd: Developer who's here since the start but did by far the most development work on BLK since the release. Constantly modernizing the coin and keeping it up with the latest features in crypto (all in the Lore build). Also responsible for the coloured coin for BLK system IRIS.  

Rat made a cryptic announcement about a Blacknet airdrop. No further details whatsoever. Yet at the same time it became clear that he wouldn't accept any updates on the regular BLK chain. We don't know why, and ultimately it doesn't matter, Janko is just able to continue working on BLK through Lore, the major exchanges already side with his build anyway.    

This means that for Rat to be able to do anything at all, he needs to get the community's consensus. He can release an airdrop on BLK or not, but it's not going to affect BLK itself unless he involves the rest.  

So that's where we're at now. You can play the 'time the airdrop' game if you want, people have gotten very rich of it in the past. But truth be told is that Rat is currently the only person who knows what it actually is, and exchanges absolutely don't accept unannounced snapshots which are fraudulent. In other words, although I very much would like to see people buying BLK in anticipation, there's also nothing wrong with holding back and wait for any actual confirmation that exchanges are on board with this, because as of now, they're not. 

The rest of the community just proceeds on their own term, which is quite exciting in and of itself as we're moving towards ETH-style smart contracts soon. The coloured coins are already operational, the scripts and release platform is up next.  

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Recap:
Two people to keep an eye on:  

'Rat'/'Dolittle': Original creator of BLK but really reclusive and non-communicative. Recently appeared after being gone for nearly a year.

janko33bd: Developer who's here since the start but did by far the most development work on BLK since the release. Constantly modernizing the coin and keeping it up with the latest features in crypto (all in the Lore build). Also responsible for the coloured coin for BLK system IRIS.  

Rat made a cryptic announcement about a Blacknet airdrop. No further details whatsoever. Yet at the same time it became clear that he wouldn't accept any updates on the regular BLK chain. We don't know why, and ultimately it doesn't matter, Janko is just able to continue working on BLK through Lore, the major exchanges already side with his build anyway.    

This means that for Rat to be able to do anything at all, he needs to get the community's consensus. He can release an airdrop on BLK or not, but it's not going to affect BLK itself unless he involves the rest.  

So that's where we're at now. You can play the 'time the airdrop' game if you want, people have gotten very rich of it in the past. But truth be told is that Rat is currently the only person who knows what it actually is, and exchanges absolutely don't accept unannounced snapshots which are fraudulent. In other words, although I very much would like to see people buying BLK in anticipation, there's also nothing wrong with holding back and wait for any actual confirmation that exchanges are on board with this, because as of now, they're not. 

The rest of the community just proceeds on their own term, which is quite exciting in and of itself as we're moving towards ETH-style smart contracts soon. The coloured coins are already operational, the scripts and release platform is up next.  

True that. Rat was the original developer but I think the future for blackcoin relies with Janko.
This developer is unmatch, Zimbeck and Buterin apart.

Suppose a problem occures, Janko is here to fix it, with Rat we had to ask Janko to step in. Rat is a talented dev, i think but after his last announcement (1 year ago or so) nothing happend. In summary
BlackNet can be expected between now and 1 year.
Blackcoin is safe with our new leader: Janko.
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Recap:
Two people to keep an eye on:  

'Rat'/'Dolittle': Original creator of BLK but really reclusive and non-communicative. Recently appeared after being gone for nearly a year.

janko33bd: Developer who's here since the start but did by far the most development work on BLK since the release. Constantly modernizing the coin and keeping it up with the latest features in crypto (all in the Lore build). Also responsible for the coloured coin for BLK system IRIS.  

Rat made a cryptic announcement about a Blacknet airdrop. No further details whatsoever. Yet at the same time it became clear that he wouldn't accept any updates on the regular BLK chain. We don't know why, and ultimately it doesn't matter, Janko is just able to continue working on BLK through Lore, the major exchanges already side with his build anyway.    

This means that for Rat to be able to do anything at all, he needs to get the community's consensus. He can release an airdrop on BLK or not, but it's not going to affect BLK itself unless he involves the rest.  

So that's where we're at now. You can play the 'time the airdrop' game if you want, people have gotten very rich of it in the past. But truth be told is that Rat is currently the only person who knows what it actually is, and exchanges absolutely don't accept unannounced snapshots which are fraudulent. In other words, although I very much would like to see people buying BLK in anticipation, there's also nothing wrong with holding back and wait for any actual confirmation that exchanges are on board with this, because as of now, they're not.  

The rest of the community just proceeds on their own term, which is quite exciting in and of itself as we're moving towards ETH-style smart contracts soon. The coloured coins are already operational, the scripts and release platform is up next.  

True that. Rat was the original developer but I think the future for blackcoin relies with Janko.
This developer is unmatch, Zimbeck and Buterin apart.

Suppose a problem occures, Janko is here to fix it, with Rat we had to ask Janko to step in. Rat is a talented dev, i think but after his last announcement (1 year ago or so) nothing happend. In summary
BlackNet can be expected between now and 1 year.
Blackcoin is safe with our new leader: Janko.

Oneitis symptoms can be cured when seen early.
There is no new leader, there never was a leader.
This is a property of decentralization. Look in history,
every king has been overthrown, same here.
It's just a sign of maturing community realizing
it can be ruled by itself. Don't be sheep

I don't work on blackcoin alone,
every help with dev get's BLK.

They got over 4K till now,
your help is appreciated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU1fLmpZtZs
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People think a coin is safe when it's controlled by a single individual or a group of people. Their logic is that as long as a coin acts like a company it will take care of it's promotion and pump it out of their own interest, on which everyone else seeks to ride.

But truth is that a coin sustained by a single actor won't last long. Coins that last long are open-source projects in which many people participate, either volunteering, through bounties or propped by donations. A coin that isn't ruled by any specific person is the safest thing to invest in. 

BLK doesn't have nearly as much participation as we'd like to have in order to guarantee a healthy growth. But at least it's set up in such a way where anybody can jump in and work without being fucked over by the core. Simply because there never was a core to begin with.

Coins that started on a core however, nearly every other token in the current market, will never be able to separate themselves from that core. It will turn into an opaque and parasitical entity that has a monopoly on the rules and will gladly bend them for their own ends whenever they can get away with it. 

I want my coin to be Linux rather than Microsoft. 

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April 30, 2018, 07:53:20 AM
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EXCHANGES

BITTREX
POLONIEX
SHAPE SHIFT
UPBIT
CRYPTOPIA
TUXEXCHANGE
AEX
COINEGG
BLEU TRADE
BIT-Z
LIVECOIN
COINEXCHANGE.io

When I read something like this I know it's scam. it's a shit coin and the dev is a dreamer. good luck with these crap

You really should research more, in my opinion this is one of the best projects I know. A coin with personality and an active community.


I was disoriented with the first thread. How good to know that the original project will continue to be developed and improved.  Wink
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Seems that hosting this block explorer needs to be renewed???

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/blk/
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Yeah that's odd. This seems to be alright:
https://node.blackcoin.io/insight/

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May 05, 2018, 10:57:13 AM
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Paspagon (file payment processor which had been supporting BlackCoin exclusively) has suspended services.

Ercoin (https://ercoin.tech) — proof of stake, fair distribution via burning, messages, accounts, flexible fees, flexible block time.
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Thanks for the update. Those guys were one of the earliest supporters of BLK.   

Yesterday BitPro added BLK as a gateway for businesses luckily: 

https://bitpro.cc/start

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Speaking of earliest supporters, someone posted this chart about various crypto inflation rate and also showing the ICO or initial distribution for various coins.  Ripple and Doge looking especially off being mostly straight up from launch, suggesting poor distribution.  I wondering if anyone wants to add in or verify data for BLK before I repost it at all so its on the map so to speak



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% of supply owned by the top 100 accounts, standouts:
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- Ethereum 35%
- Ripple 98%
- Bitcoin Cash 25%
- Stellar 95%
- IOTA 62%
- NEO 70%

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Blackcoin would be a straight vertical line (representing the pow phase in the week it launched) and then the inflation would start above 100% as there's no hard supply cap, only a soft one determined by the 0.97% inflation (of the starting supply)    

Blackoin inflates with 739k each year, like 1% but that percentage decreases due to inflation being a flat rate rather than proportional. 

That's not the full picture though considering the context. BLK happened to be launched during a miningpool craze where everyone just mined the most profitable coins and immediately sold them on exchanges. It's most likely that's where most of BLK's early coins ended up.

Doge and Dash both started with a year of hyperinflation. Fairly okay for proper dispersion.

On the other hand, Ripple and NEO can't even be mined. These coins can make new supply at will, whenever the team needs it.  

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Black coin needs too take the black net thread back black net the coin doesn’t evebpn exist yet
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Rat, the original founder, owns that thread. Bitcointalk forum rules say he gets to  do whatever he wants with it. That's why we're here.

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May 16, 2018, 07:11:18 PM
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So rat sabotages he’s own coin stupid
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May 18, 2018, 01:13:12 PM
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He's indecipherable. We have no idea what he's doing or what he wishes to achieve. However, the way Blackcoin is  setup means that he doesn't  rule the coin. A few months ago the network already voted on Janko's build to continue so he's pretty much of the game. That is, unless he wishes to cooperate again. There's no point in burning bridges either, the guy did create the most solid form of Proof of Stake after all.  

Blackcoin keeps being cloned by very new coins:  



 Cheesy

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May 19, 2018, 06:31:29 PM
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So rat sabotages he’s own coin stupid

He is like a ghost...when he want appear he will appear and missing again...  Smiley Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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I'm very happy to see this project finally come to fruition, this gotta be one of the best thing that could have happened. I am very happy about this. Good job everyone
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He moves in mysterious ways, I just presume the dude is a legend and a genius and that doesnt always go with absolute perfection in every area, we are only human after all.   This is the best direction for stability but who knows what comes next in crypto overall, its never a boring market anyhow.

I did notice on some sites they reference a Bitcointalk (ANN or  Announcements) thread and of course it points to the old one.  Maybe if the network consensus is with development on this thread those links should be pointing to the OP on this the newer BLK thread.    Theres always new people coming into crypto, that growth is important and quite a few will come from the big marketcap type listings of the coins, types with details and links given.

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how do I use the file BOOTSTRAP? I downloaded it. Placed in the directory C:\Users\XXXX\AppData\Roaming\Lore but it did not help synchronization. Then I placed it C:\Users\XXXX\AppData\Roaming\Lore\blocks but it did not help synchronization.
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I have no doubt rat4 working on something and it's probably something great for blckcoin/blacknet
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May 23, 2018, 03:48:06 AM
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I have no doubt rat4 working on something and it's probably something great for blckcoin/blacknet

Do you have a proof? or some history with the dev that can point it out?
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how do I use the file BOOTSTRAP? I downloaded it. Placed in the directory C:\Users\XXXX\AppData\Roaming\Lore but it did not help synchronization. Then I placed it C:\Users\XXXX\AppData\Roaming\Lore\blocks but it did not help synchronization.


Go here for quick friendly help...https://gitter.im/BlackCoin_Hub/   
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When you first startup I think Blackcoin it allows you to specify the directory you want to use, select somewhere far more accessible then the users files or whatever  (which are basically hidden).    So you need to remember where that is.

Or later on you can specify directly where you want the files to be placed.
    Create a shortcut to the lore-qt.exe and place on desktop > properties > target > -datadir=D:\Bootstrap-directory


Or if none of that is helpful then try Blackhalo which is the same network just a different approach/client to reach the same place, I think the bootstrap also works with this.
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May 24, 2018, 09:57:26 AM
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The Blackcoin has no limits on the maximum Stake? The owners of a small Stake will not be able to get the reward POS-mine?
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There's no minimum or maximum stake, everyone stakes the same percentage. I like the idea on paper, it would create more participation. However, in reality the only thing a maximum stake would do is cause wealthy stakers to divide their coins over more nodes to circumvent the minimum.  

If you had 50k blk, and the maximum was 1k, then you would simply run 5 raspberry pi's  each with 10k and it would be the same as staking 50k.  

I hope that makes sense.

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No. The probability of getting a reward from a Stake of 50k blk is greater than the sum of the probabilities from five Stake of 10k blk.
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That doesn't sound right. I'm pretty sure that the 739k coins each year are issued evenly over every coin staking.   

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The Blackcoin has no limits on the maximum Stake? The owners of a small Stake will not be able to get the reward POS-mine?


As per i run...i got 1.5blk perday for 10k blk
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Why then unite in pools? If the probability of getting a reward in solo-mining is equal to the probability of getting a reward in the pool (in proportion to its Stake in the pool).

For example, 50k blk is a pool. My Stake is 10k blk. The pool will pay me a reward in proportion to my Stake (10 blk). In a pool and in a solo, I get the same reward?
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Yes they will be the same reward. Pool-staking is useless for BLK. Though maybe there are other coins that increase the relative amount depending on how much is staked, in which case pool-staking would work. Just not for BLK, and intentionally so as that would encourage centralization. 

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Blackcoin Raspberry Pi staking guides courtesy of Shermand100 over in Gitter can be found here if anyone is interested- http://www.pinode.co.uk/
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you can now mine blackcoin With CPU, GPU or even With Browser Miner

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4354585
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Blackcoin Raspberry Pi staking guides courtesy of Shermand100 over in Gitter can be found here if anyone is interested- http://www.pinode.co.uk/

To be precise:
https://pinode.weebly.com/blackcoin.html 

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i think blackcoin game over soon Cry

i will sell my coins

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you can now mine blackcoin With CPU, GPU or even With Browser Miner

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4354585

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Pi is a new digital currency being developed by a group of Stanford PhDs. For a limited time, you can join the beta to earn Pi and help grow the network. To join Pi, follow this link https://minepi.com/cryptomeneer and use my username (cryptomeneer) as your invitation code.
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(You can't mine BLK at all, it's pure stake)

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(You can't mine BLK at all, it's pure stake)

Well, you can. If you mine other coins and sell them for Blackcoin. Much as the old Blackcoinpool did.
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Why then unite in pools? If the probability of getting a reward in solo-mining is equal to the probability of getting a reward in the pool (in proportion to its Stake in the pool).

For example, 50k blk is a pool. My Stake is 10k blk. The pool will pay me a reward in proportion to my Stake (10 blk). In a pool and in a solo, I get the same reward?

Pool staking only makes sense for those that don't want a Computer/Raspi running 24/7 to stake their coins. But it has two huge drawbacks:
1st you'd need to have to give all your BLK to someone else, which means you have to trust someone 100% that they don't run off with your coins.
2nd you'd harm the network's decentralisation, when the pool would have a significant amount of the network weight.

So, pool staking doesn't make much sense but brings huge risks, especially for your own coins.
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^^ it could be ok for especially small holders who anticipate growth and want to hold and come back later.   I would have to echo its risky to expect a website to just continue fine, I would be alot richer if that had not been a problem repeatedly in the past even big websites.  It breaks the golden rule, simply respect decentralisation.

(You can't mine BLK at all, it's pure stake)

If we go back 4 years, the very start or IPO if you like for BLK there was direct mining (long over and completed pow phase) but now POW is unused unless we are talking in slang for staking (POS) which does give extra BLK to users/holders (miners if you want to label it comparatively like that).   Its possible people would confuse the two.
   The old bitcoin wallets used to be able to 'mine' new coins but to do similar with BLK you'd have to have a balance of BLK in the wallet first place to stake and then you get a kind of interest is how I see it.   I wouldn't argue too much if people want to start calling it mining.    BLK isnt using GPU

The other thing would be to mine completely separate blockchains and then buy or exchange the mining proceeds into BLK.  Good idea because it can be staked and staking will not interfere with operation of a GPU so it could be considered similar to mixed mining in a rough way.

this video is interesting and mentions POS.  I did not know the staking original idea predated bitcoin usage
https://youtu.be/6xIq0FdmsIA?t=1572

See I dont agree with this guy exactly but he isnt using absolutes and mentions big known problems to me which is good for starters even if the conclusions are 'meh' as he says.    The big deal is staking is more efficient then all the energy used up by bitcoin and I think that could be make BTC secondary even.   Most economies are centred around competitive markets and efficiency, it will matter but maybe BTC improves

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What is the purpose and mission of this blockcoin? How does Blockcoin influence in banking and industry in this country?

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I really like that Blackcoin allows you to make quick transactions. You can send money to anyone in the world in seconds!
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June 06, 2018, 12:56:52 PM
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(You can't mine BLK at all, it's pure stake)

Well, you can. If you mine other coins and sell them for Blackcoin. Much as the old Blackcoinpool did.

Right. I can also open a lemonade stand and buy Blackcoin with the profits, but that doesn't mean I'm squeezing Blackcoin juice. 

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$0.2 for the mother of POS 2.0 & 3.0
This is so ridiculous..

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Take advantage of 20 cent price will be back above dollar soon
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June 08, 2018, 06:06:14 PM
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Is this a new Blackcoin thread? I've known Blackcoin for a long time exactly 4 years ago after going into the Bittrex exchange and making history so far. I also feel the profit repeatedly with Blackcoin and it is very fun.
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Yes rat 4. Owned the old thread and changed name too blacknet even though there is no blacknet coin this is the new black coin thread
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June 14, 2018, 03:57:31 PM
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So there are now three cryptocurrencies either in existence, announced or in development, which are going to derive their blockchains from BlackCoin’s:


Thoughts?

Ercoin (https://ercoin.tech) — proof of stake, fair distribution via burning, messages, accounts, flexible fees, flexible block time.
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When is ercoin distribution
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how many ercoin will initially be distributed thru burning blackcoin
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June 14, 2018, 07:56:27 PM
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When is ercoin distribution

This has not been decided yet. I’m reluctant to schedule distribution before launching a public testnet. Also it would be nice to have Tendermint (which serves as a consensus engine) version 1.0 released. I’d say that “this summer” is a rather optimistic, but not unrealistic estimation.

how many ercoin will initially be distributed thru burning blackcoin

All ercoins are planned to be distributed via BlackCoin burning. The total money supply has not been determined yet, but it is more or less irrelevant — it’s just a number. Smiley

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June 18, 2018, 08:36:03 PM
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When is ercoin distribution

This has not been decided yet. I’m reluctant to schedule distribution before launching a public testnet. Also it would be nice to have Tendermint (which serves as a consensus engine) version 1.0 released. I’d say that “this summer” is a rather optimistic, but not unrealistic estimation.

how many ercoin will initially be distributed thru burning blackcoin

All ercoins are planned to be distributed via BlackCoin burning. The total money supply has not been determined yet, but it is more or less irrelevant — it’s just a number. Smiley
Lets wait OP for more informations about future of this project.

Else this looks like hijacking of topic, and this is not allowed according to the rules of the forum.

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June 19, 2018, 04:43:38 PM
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When is ercoin distribution

This has not been decided yet. I’m reluctant to schedule distribution before launching a public testnet. Also it would be nice to have Tendermint (which serves as a consensus engine) version 1.0 released. I’d say that “this summer” is a rather optimistic, but not unrealistic estimation.

how many ercoin will initially be distributed thru burning blackcoin

All ercoins are planned to be distributed via BlackCoin burning. The total money supply has not been determined yet, but it is more or less irrelevant — it’s just a number. Smiley
Lets wait OP for more informations about future of this project.

Else this looks like hijacking of topic, and this is not allowed according to the rules of the forum.

It's not hijacking at all, people know about ercoin and it directly relates to current and future BlackCoin holders. Good to be able to keep up to date this way, for all people that might be interested.

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June 19, 2018, 06:30:07 PM
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Burning Blackcoin ?  sacrilege, I dont mind new stuff, innovations but yea do make a new thread and I'll subscribe read up on it some.   Oh this is the right link I guess, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2071642
I'm not immediately seeing whats distinctive about it, but now I've posted the link it should be discussed there mostly.   Good luck

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June 19, 2018, 09:53:21 PM
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Hmm without Janko and rat4 we are a little short on devs. Still though wish people would use BlackHalo/BitHalo more often especially for OTC cash deals. I have finished all the templates and features for it actually. A new release comes out at the end of this month.

It's possible at some point you guys may want to fork and update the protocol to support more advanced features... perhaps pruning of the chain, contracts, rep system, more random stake selection, etc.

If none of those things take place though it might be a grind. Didn't see any new developments with "Blacknet" other than a name change. I'm assuming at some point this will have to fork if there is a 2nd network but even so nothing was clarified with the community which was I'm assuming the motivation for this thread.
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Blackhalo would need that initial kernel to get the snowball growing. Maybe full trades (fiat for goods) may be setting the bar too high for most people. A slightly lower type of usage is lending, the sharing economy. Like those apps that let people put all kind of equipment up for sharing. The flaw in those systems is that it's completely reputation based. You have no idea in what kind of state you'll see your equipment back.  

Blackhalo is the perfect escrow for that. Both people put their BLK in the escrow, there's no transaction, but the smart contract sits there until someone lended their stuff, the other brought it back in a satisfactory state and both people are happy. Though it'd be advisory for the person who uses the equipment to put in a higher (2x) escrow than the lender due to the asymmetrical nature of the trade.  

I tried to explain escrow transactions to a friend of mine, and only once I brought up this lending example it 'clicked' for him.

Burning Blackcoin ?  sacrilege, I dont mind new stuff, innovations but yea do make a new thread and I'll subscribe read up on it some.   Oh this is the right link I guess, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2071642
I'm not immediately seeing whats distinctive about it, but now I've posted the link it should be discussed there mostly.   Good luck
 

The option to burn BLK for a new coin is great for BLK. It really raises the value of Blackcoin. Value comes in but it doesn't go back out again.

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June 21, 2018, 07:01:28 AM
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Blackhalo would need that initial kernel to get the snowball growing. Maybe full trades (fiat for goods) may be setting the bar too high for most people. A slightly lower type of usage is lending, the sharing economy. Like those apps that let people put all kind of equipment up for sharing. The flaw in those systems is that it's completely reputation based. You have no idea in what kind of state you'll see your equipment back.  

Blackhalo is the perfect escrow for that. Both people put their BLK in the escrow, there's no transaction, but the smart contract sits there until someone lended their stuff, the other brought it back in a satisfactory state and both people are happy. Though it'd be advisory for the person who uses the equipment to put in a higher (2x) escrow than the lender due to the asymmetrical nature of the trade.  

I tried to explain escrow transactions to a friend of mine, and only once I brought up this lending example it 'clicked' for him.

Burning Blackcoin ?  sacrilege, I dont mind new stuff, innovations but yea do make a new thread and I'll subscribe read up on it some.   Oh this is the right link I guess, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2071642
I'm not immediately seeing whats distinctive about it, but now I've posted the link it should be discussed there mostly.   Good luck
 

The option to burn BLK for a new coin is great for BLK. It really raises the value of Blackcoin. Value comes in but it doesn't go back out again.

I've never heard that use case before that's a pretty great idea! The escrow is only needed for the trust aspect. Kind of similar to Barter I guess. I finished
all of those templates including Python contracts where users can program their own. However, I'm waiting to see if more people use the basic features
before activating them in the code. For now users should at least experiment with custom contracts and P2P cash deals.

Regardless, the market is still gambling too much now. It's going to take time for the masses to continue to migrate to actual usable software. We are
doing a web implementation at Bitbay eventually I think and of course the peg is almost done and at some point I would be interested in doing "Atomic double deposit" so users can mix deposits from various currencies. It was a newer concept of mine. In order to do that though I need to see more users. And still, Halo is the original brand and deserves much better. Never did I think I would find Namecoin, Peercoin, Blackcoin and so many of the "original" coins on page 3 or 4 behind a bunch of sleazy projects.
We deserve better.
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June 21, 2018, 10:04:11 AM
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The algorithm is too old. Many asics can mine the very huge amount of coins. Too bad

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Blackcoin CANNOT be mined. You're spreading misinformation.

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June 24, 2018, 03:28:58 PM
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When is ercoin distribution

This has not been decided yet. I’m reluctant to schedule distribution before launching a public testnet. Also it would be nice to have Tendermint (which serves as a consensus engine) version 1.0 released. I’d say that “this summer” is a rather optimistic, but not unrealistic estimation.

how many ercoin will initially be distributed thru burning blackcoin

All ercoins are planned to be distributed via BlackCoin burning. The total money supply has not been determined yet, but it is more or less irrelevant — it’s just a number. Smiley


Is that all blackoin holder will get equal of ercoin?? 1:1??
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The ratio could be anything 1:2, 1:5, 1:10 it doesn't matter.  

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June 24, 2018, 09:11:43 PM
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Interesting project.  Smiley Smiley Smiley
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June 30, 2018, 11:56:07 AM
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Its been years since i first purchased BLK, so much memories i can remember when this one first took off.

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June 30, 2018, 04:35:41 PM
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Its been years since i first purchased BLK, so much memories i can remember when this one first took off.

Lets make some more memories.
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July 02, 2018, 10:23:04 AM
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Revival updates:
- Blackcoin.org is the main Blackcoin website.
- Blackcoin.co will redirect to Blackcoin.org.
- Twitter @CoinBlack changed to @BlackcoinOrg
- Requesting updates on all services to update Blackcoin information.

Revival todo:
- Team pages
- Roadmap
- Proposed plans
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July 03, 2018, 04:00:22 AM
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Its been years since i first purchased BLK, so much memories i can remember when this one first took off.

Lets make some more memories.

They are re branding and it seems getting more active as time goes by, hopefully we see more actions!

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July 03, 2018, 08:04:03 AM
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Sadly BLK was way more active last summer. But the Slack channel got to full capacity and moving to Gitter lost a lot of active users.

Lesson learned. Do not use Slack as a community platform. It isn't meant for large groups. 

https://gitter.im/BlackCoin_Hub  

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July 04, 2018, 08:48:40 AM
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When is ercoin distribution

This has not been decided yet. I’m reluctant to schedule distribution before launching a public testnet. Also it would be nice to have Tendermint (which serves as a consensus engine) version 1.0 released. I’d say that “this summer” is a rather optimistic, but not unrealistic estimation.

how many ercoin will initially be distributed thru burning blackcoin

All ercoins are planned to be distributed via BlackCoin burning. The total money supply has not been determined yet, but it is more or less irrelevant — it’s just a number. Smiley


Hello there,Learn how EOS is distributed.

500000ERCOIN per day,The average person who burns BLK gets 500000ERCOIN.
If only one person burns one BLK, then he gets 500000ERCOIN.。。。。
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Are you that new that you actually think that every project that has a topic on Bitcointalk actually is an ICO or is this a bot post? Either way, pretty dumb!