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July 21, 2020, 11:46:14 AM
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Not sure what to make of all of this (other than my previous post in this thread) but I have seen a couple of users asking about ways to delete their accounts.  I do recall that shorena had a "service" where they would "clean" a UID - quite literally by deleting each and every post.  I'm not sure how shorena was able to delete any threads a user would start (unless they were a mod/had help from a mod) but that would be a sticking point for anyone wanting to self delete rather than be nuked.

As to sabotage, that would be a possibility if a connection were made to the recipients of the merits handed out recently.
It is what you meant: [SAD] I delete your account. That services was suspended in May 2015 - 3 months after its birthday.
Service temporarily suspended, will honor existing contracts.

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July 21, 2020, 11:59:53 AM
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It is what you meant: [SAD] I delete your account.

That looks to be the thread yes - it seems some people just want to leave the Forum and be "forgotten" just like the EU's laws that they (the EU) are enforcing.

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July 21, 2020, 12:06:46 PM
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Even if he deleted a bunch of his posts I don't thin his activity is also justified in that cast. I mean this account was registered in 2015 and he should probably be a Legendary rank by default right now. There is evidence that a bunch of his posts got deleted but I don't think his activity justifies it not unless he went inactive for years before posting here in the forum again.
How does a 2015 account become a Legendary rank by default without the required activity?

It was clear to me that forum rank is influenced by activity and merit. Activity depends on the number of posts done every 14 days. His rank became legendary because of his old posts. If he deleted them, it's as if he never made those posts in the first place. Therefore, his rank coming back to Member is justified. Correct me if I am wrong.   

There were no merit system prior to 2015, merit system was relatively new and was created around 2018. All you need to do back then was post in order for your activity to go up making it easy for account farmers to level up basically you just need less than 3 years worth of activity to be a legendary. Although this is something I missed since I just know that deleting posts will also decrease the activity of that member I thought activity was something permanent once the player reach it.
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July 21, 2020, 12:20:32 PM
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Although this is something I missed since I just know that deleting posts will also decrease the activity of that member I thought activity was something permanent once the player reach it.
The forum allows one user has 14 activity points in maximum for each 14 days. The interesting point (that you missed) is that one has to post a single post to get the potential 14 activity points for each 14-days period. Later on, 3 months, 6 months later, he can be more actively post more than 14 posts for each 14-days period and all redundant posts (15th to 20th, ie.) will be counted for the period that was marked with 1 post for that period.

Let's imagine there are 2 period in this July:
  • 1st - 2nd weeks of July: I make only 1 post
  • 3rd - 4th weeks of July: I make 27 posts
I will get exactly 28 activity points for all 28 days in July (to keep it simple as that, let's assume July has only 28 days).

Next, if you delete 26 posts during 3rd to 4th weeks of July, you will still have one post to mark that period so that you can post more and get a maximum 14 activity points for that period later. If you delete all 28 posts, and no posts left to mark those 4 weeks, it is impossible to make extra posts and get activity points later.

About BobLawblaw who has been demoted to Member. Now, he has 62 posts in total.

Assume that he has those 62 posts to mark for 62 periods (14 days for each, each post mark each of 62 periods), he will be able to get a maximum activity points at 868 (62*14 = 868) if he make enough extra posts later.





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July 21, 2020, 12:26:30 PM
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Has anyone gone through and looked to see if the posts are one every fortnight?  If that's true then as a sold account a new user could just rank up by posting via the potential activity - a typical ploy that was around a few years ago.

People peddling in account sales would advertise that an account had "potential" activity.  One of our mods/admin even had a website where you could calculate said potential activity.

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There are other instances I've seen where a user's rank has gone backwards after posts of theirs were deleted.

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July 21, 2020, 12:32:58 PM
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People peddling in account sales would advertise that an account had "potential" activity.  One of our mods/admin even had a website where you could calculate said potential activity.
I remembered that recent months there is a member user post another lively sheet but I don't know who he is and where it is. (I will update the post if I find it)

That one is an old one: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12saLhlUoqIdairxzuSPu6EYGrt7FN2lOstO1yDjCEbA/edit#gid=1012758442. I get if from TIL Activity does not work on precisely 2 week intervals + interval timings





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July 21, 2020, 12:35:53 PM
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People peddling in account sales would advertise that an account had "potential" activity.  One of our mods/admin even had a website where you could calculate said potential activity.
I remembered that recent months there is a member user post another lively sheet but I don't know who he is and where it is.

That one is an old one: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12saLhlUoqIdairxzuSPu6EYGrt7FN2lOstO1yDjCEbA/edit#gid=1012758442. I get if from TIL Activity does not work on precisely 2 week intervals + interval timings

There's a few too many blanks on that Google Spread Sheet so I can't decipher it.  I haven't seen it before, or anything quite like it I'm sorry to say.

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July 21, 2020, 01:04:52 PM
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Imagine someone deleting over 4800 posts   Shocked
Maybe he used some script to delete his posts, if something like this even exists.
It would be good if theymos add some option for people who want to delete or hide their account and some posts for privacy purposes.





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July 21, 2020, 01:53:06 PM
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Imagine someone deleting over 4800 posts   Shocked
Maybe he used some script to delete his posts, if something like this even exists.
It would be good if theymos add some option for people who want to delete or hide their account and some posts for privacy purposes.

I checked it a couple of times out of curiosity. It looked pretty manual to me as it took quite some time. That's some dedication right there.

These days with all the scrapers and stat obsessives you have to assume that anything you post will end up being preserved elsewhere for eternity even if it's removed from here and there's some way of nuking yourself.
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July 21, 2020, 09:00:20 PM
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Imagine someone deleting over 4800 posts   Shocked
Maybe he used some script to delete his posts, if something like this even exists.
It would be good if theymos add some option for people who want to delete or hide their account and some posts for privacy purposes.

I checked it a couple of times out of curiosity. It looked pretty manual to me as it took quite some time. That's some dedication right there.
Dedicated to be a member? This is the weirdest I've seen so far in the forum, I didn't know someone have a number of merits like @boblawlaw. Do you think he made it manually? deleting over thousands of his post? I think did use some sort of bot to track and delete his past posts, I don't really know why he have done that no clue at all  Huh

These days with all the scrapers and stat obsessives you have to assume that anything you post will end up being preserved elsewhere for eternity even if it's removed from here and there's some way of nuking yourself.
So where do the deleted posts go into? well obviously the one that the mods deleted can be seen on messages lol

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July 21, 2020, 10:47:07 PM
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So where do the deleted posts go into? well obviously the one that the mods deleted can be seen on messages lol
There are third parties that store all posts.
For example using the link below, you can see all your posts made after July 21, 2019.
https://loyce.club/archive/members/79/791625.html

For more details about the tool created by LoyceV, visit the following topic.
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July 21, 2020, 11:45:57 PM
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BobLawblaw

How can a member have this posts-merits rate? I don't make any sense with bpip.org, neither with his profile page. How does he have so many merits with do few posts?

Wow my first time seeing this tho, 65 post and the account got up to 2,000+ Merits this is so weird I most say. What's really going on on Bitcointalk forum that we the newbies coming up don't understand. Someone out us through?
Lol, because you aren't reading the early reply, you're just simply diving into a topic without reading other user's posts. That user is a former Legendary and and very active on WO thread before. Why he got de-ranked? Because one of requirements to rank up is your post count, aside from merit and acrivity.

We can easily determine if that user was in changed hand through his post since there is an archived to his previous post(on the first page on this thread).

Whatever it is, we don't know yet what is the reason behind.





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July 22, 2020, 04:54:19 AM
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It’s not hacked, it’s not sold. He took great offence to something that happened on a private platform that a select bunch of us are on. He got upset & paranoid about OpSec so quit the other platform, he then continued his annoyance here in the WO which is where many of us post regularly.

It’s a shame, I had a lot of time for Bob, I like him a lot but this is the internet. None of us really know each other do we, he’s within his rights to do what he wants with his account.

Once again, I guarantee you it’s not a hacked or sold account. It’s a sort of rage quit & an attempt to delete all traces of who he is or may be, every microscopic trace of who he is removed.

It’s a shame but it is what it is.
That settles it I guess. A man ought to get paranoid if you suddenly realize your post history to be enough of a reflection of who you are.

So this "Private platform"Huh Any wold-domination plans from erstwhile uber bitcoiners going on there?? Should we, the lesser mortals hope for some bitcoin champions to arise and infuse life into the mundane repetitiveness of trading and price and regulation??

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July 22, 2020, 12:43:06 PM
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Imagine someone deleting over 4800 posts   Shocked
Maybe he used some script to delete his posts, if something like this even exists.
It would be good if theymos add some option for people who want to delete or hide their account and some posts for privacy purposes.

I could remember creating a topic regarding to what you just said here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5245604 which I believe there should be a script for desktop users or let's say some sort of pattern that's use to delete multiple post rather than going through one by one.
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July 22, 2020, 06:47:10 PM
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He probably deleted a load of his posts.

Is that possible making use of the Mobile phone I guess, making use of desktop computer or probably using script format should do the work.

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July 23, 2020, 01:19:58 PM
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I checked it a couple of times out of curiosity. It looked pretty manual to me as it took quite some time. That's some dedication right there.
That huge quantity of post are manual? Its not just dedication but serious about his desire to completely wipe out this traces. But in any case would scripts or automated deletiom would be possible?

I saw also that post when he requested to ask for deletion and that is only few days since someone posted this observations means he managed to delete that so fast.
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July 24, 2020, 02:58:37 AM
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I saw also that post when he requested to ask for deletion and that is only few days since someone posted this observations means he managed to delete that so fast.

Another option would be if the UID in question had contributed numerous times to a mega thread that has since been removed taking a fair chunk of their posts in the process.

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This user's email address was changed recently.

The address I previously used was a throwaway when I originally created my account.

It’s now linked to a ProtonMail account under my control.

No reason to panic.

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July 25, 2020, 06:45:44 PM
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This user's email address was changed recently.

The address I previously used was a throwaway when I originally created my account.

It’s now linked to a ProtonMail account under my control.

No reason to panic.

This account will NEVER be sold.



you have deleted most of your posts though and i guess the reason why your rank also move down to MEMBER?

this isn't how it works. things changed i guess because i saw someone sometime ago who deleted almost all his posts as well but retained his rank.


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July 25, 2020, 08:27:00 PM
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you have deleted most of your posts though and i guess the reason why your rank also move down to MEMBER?

this isn't how it works. things changed i guess because i saw someone sometime ago who deleted almost all his posts as well but retained his rank.

uh, rank means nothing to many people. they are here to learn. makes no difference what rank someone is if that person is  informative and helpful.
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