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July 25, 2017, 01:55:35 AM
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cant we get good Windows wallet that wont freeze on opening ? it would help a lot, i still have some HBN (i thought i sold all but didnt) and keep it for better times

My wallet opens fine on Windows.  It does take 5-6 minutes.  Just opened, it took 6:16.  Loading the block index takes most of the time.
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July 25, 2017, 03:26:40 AM
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cant we get good Windows wallet that wont freeze on opening ? it would help a lot, i still have some HBN (i thought i sold all but didnt) and keep it for better times

Yes it is slower to open, so far I have only had it not open once. I killed it via task man and restarted it with no further problems.  I can look into options for faster load times.

I rebuilt a HBN wallet on a different computer.

I checked, the new build sync'd fine, and staked.  Then I noticed it wasn't encrypted.  I remembered it being encrypted before.

Is it possible that:
1) I had a wallet.dat that was before I encrypted, and rebuilt the wallet to a state before encrypted?
2) I rebuilt the wallet and the encryption didn't transfer?

anyway that is possible?

I guess I could have just never encrypted the original wallet, but I had the key written down and everything...

The wallet is stored in a different location then the executable, so rebuilding the wallet binary shouldn't have any effect on the wallet.dat Perhaps you used the startup switch -datadir= and started the wallet.dat in a different location when you encrypted it?


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July 27, 2017, 01:05:31 AM
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Is there any decent Windows Wallet that works?

Latest Win Wallet from the hp is still a mess in terms of connectivity and res usage for me.
Why not Coinswapping it and simply forking a decent wallet with masternodes, like Pivx or something.

Exclusive Coin made a decent Cumback with a reset and a new wallet.

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July 27, 2017, 09:52:27 PM
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Is there any decent Windows Wallet that works?

Latest Win Wallet from the hp is still a mess in terms of connectivity and res usage for me.
Why not Coinswapping it and simply forking a decent wallet with masternodes, like Pivx or something.

Exclusive Coin made a decent Cumback with a reset and a new wallet.


Be my guest. I will never do a swap. And if the community is serious, I will dump and leave.  End of story on swaps. 

I will however continue to invest my time, what little there is, improving the current wallet.

I run this on many computers, beside startup issues, addnodes and blockchain catch-up, the wallet keeps on staking and talking to peers. Things work pretty well for a 20 second block network.

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July 28, 2017, 01:48:16 AM
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Hobo no like swaps.
Hobo likes his shack and cans and rusty coins.

Leave Hobo alone
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July 28, 2017, 09:21:57 AM
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Be my guest. I will never do a swap. And if the community is serious, I will dump and leave.  End of story on swaps. 

I will however continue to invest my time, what little there is, improving the current wallet.

I run this on many computers, beside startup issues, addnodes and blockchain catch-up, the wallet keeps on staking and talking to peers. Things work pretty well for a 20 second block network.

Yes wallet work, but not anymore on small computer. My wallet can't run anymore on an old AMD A4-4000 (3.0 GHz). He does orphan 99% of the time, wallet not responding if your try to do anything with it, no way to do any transaction in coin control without having to wait 5min before wallet respond.

Moved this wallet on an AMD FX-6300, and wallet use 50% of the cpu when stake is in progress and biger my wallet is slower it will be soon and won't be able to run it on this cpu too.  Undecided


It was nice at the beggining of hbn, just start to have some coin, and forget about your wallet while is stake Smiley

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July 28, 2017, 12:40:53 PM
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Gonna have to face facts.
Even with big blocks and huge weight orphans are strangling the process.

Minimum stake size or any other method to kill off the staking spam

I'm not convinced 90 second block times will help if the wallet continues to be so unresponsive.

I have recently aggregated all blocks into a new wallet and saved 6-700 MB of RAM
can't say I'm noticing any improvements.

The wallet is thrashing 30% of a 4GHz quad core and falls into long periods of orphans on fixed by a wallet restart.

Also if everyone is creating so many potential POS solutions why are we always near 100% reward?
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July 28, 2017, 01:41:47 PM
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Gonna have to face facts.
Even with big blocks and huge weight orphans are strangling the process.

Minimum stake size or any other method to kill off the staking spam

I'm not convinced 90 second block times will help if the wallet continues to be so unresponsive.

I have recently aggregated all blocks into a new wallet and saved 6-700 MB of RAM
can't say I'm noticing any improvements.

The wallet is thrashing 30% of a 4GHz quad core and falls into long periods of orphans on fixed by a wallet restart.

Also if everyone is creating so many potential POS solutions why are we always near 100% reward?

Better staking algo and 90 sec block time will be a huge difference..  I have 1.5.5 just about ready. THis will be the first part to help staking. Plenty of other things to do, and then we can talk about hard forks for 1.6. I think 90 second block time HAS to be among them.

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July 28, 2017, 02:35:59 PM
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Gonna have to face facts.
Even with big blocks and huge weight orphans are strangling the process.

Minimum stake size or any other method to kill off the staking spam

I'm not convinced 90 second block times will help if the wallet continues to be so unresponsive.

I have recently aggregated all blocks into a new wallet and saved 6-700 MB of RAM
can't say I'm noticing any improvements.

The wallet is thrashing 30% of a 4GHz quad core and falls into long periods of orphans on fixed by a wallet restart.

Also if everyone is creating so many potential POS solutions why are we always near 100% reward?

Better staking algo and 90 sec block time will be a huge difference..  I have 1.5.5 just about ready. THis will be the first part to help staking. Plenty of other things to do, and then we can talk about hard forks for 1.6. I think 90 second block time HAS to be among them.

OK I'll buy the improved algo part for sure, I'm neither here or there at 60-90 seconds to be honest.

I've been doing a bit of tinkering over here and beginning to feel I'm on the outskirts of the network .
There is a dude in Kiev helping me out but most peers have shocking ping times. (I believe some of the reported times are WAAAY off also)

Could we flag which peers are in sync with the network in the peers info % or some such?
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July 28, 2017, 03:23:44 PM
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Yes wallet work, but not anymore on small computer. My wallet can't run anymore on an old AMD A4-4000 (3.0 GHz). He does orphan 99% of the time, wallet not responding if your try to do anything with it, no way to do any transaction in coin control without having to wait 5min before wallet respond.

Moved this wallet on an AMD FX-6300, and wallet use 50% of the cpu when stake is in progress and biger my wallet is slower it will be soon and won't be able to run it on this cpu too.  Undecided


It was nice at the beggining of hbn, just start to have some coin, and forget about your wallet while is stake Smiley


This is strange, my 1.5.3 HBN wallet when fully synced and staking takes no more then 10-15% on FX-8320E (stock).
And orphan rates are usually no more then 10% on big stakes (2000-5000 HBN). Memory usage is big, yes.

Im using this addnodes in hobonickels.conf if it may help someone:
addnode=118.102.74.85
addnode=141.5.104.227
addnode=149.202.98.161
addnode=153.172.167.168
addnode=172.4.177.229
addnode=173.208.164.34
addnode=178.248.4.130
addnode=183.159.51.234
addnode=184.164.129.202
addnode=185.104.184.187
addnode=188.116.34.66
addnode=194.219.107.159
addnode=208.54.90.197
addnode=216.218.222.12
addnode=217.175.119.125
addnode=24.247.194.72
addnode=24.5.224.146
addnode=47.223.61.135
addnode=5.9.48.68
addnode=67.149.188.138
addnode=72.184.183.243
addnode=72.241.235.204
addnode=73.228.39.117
addnode=75.71.127.100
addnode=76.169.57.92
addnode=77.239.37.12
addnode=77.240.98.41
addnode=77.9.199.237
addnode=79.246.233.206
addnode=79.69.5.223
addnode=83.255.65.50
addnode=84.158.236.239
addnode=84.169.198.55
addnode=84.217.169.178
addnode=85.140.56.132
addnode=86.0.127.13
addnode=87.153.244.140
addnode=88.99.68.228
addnode=90.156.106.253
addnode=91.121.177.181
addnode=92.232.94.171
addnode=92.39.213.37
addnode=93.77.76.185
addnode=94.113.207.67
addnode=94.210.174.118
addnode=98.115.147.74
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July 28, 2017, 04:43:44 PM
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Is there any decent Windows Wallet that works?

Latest Win Wallet from the hp is still a mess in terms of connectivity and res usage for me.
Why not Coinswapping it and simply forking a decent wallet with masternodes, like Pivx or something.

Exclusive Coin made a decent Cumback with a reset and a new wallet.


Be my guest. I will never do a swap. And if the community is serious, I will dump and leave.  End of story on swaps.  

I will however continue to invest my time, what little there is, improving the current wallet.

I run this on many computers, beside startup issues, addnodes and blockchain catch-up, the wallet keeps on staking and talking to peers. Things work pretty well for a 20 second block network.

much appreciated here.

I hope you can bring the client back to todays standards
For me on a shitty i3 Netbook with 4gb ram its just a Mess at its current State.
Will try the nodes above soon.

Good luck and thank you for efforts.
Make hobo great again.

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July 28, 2017, 08:25:33 PM
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Not having done this for a long time I think there might be a more fundamental issue than the staking algo

I have a synced client with a fresh and empty wallet.dat using 61% of an A6 6400. OK its only 2 cores but 4GHz

By my reckoning it should be doing next to nothing.
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July 28, 2017, 08:31:06 PM
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Not having done this for a long time I think there might be a more fundamental issue than the staking algo

I have a synced client with a fresh and empty wallet.dat using 61% of an A6 6400. OK its only 2 cores but 4GHz

By my reckoning it should be doing next to nothing.

Watch the debug log file tail -f using msys. You will notice each time a new block comes in the CPU spikes.  Blocks roll in VERY fast so the CPU is high a lot.  Ala 20 second block time. You can also turn off stake via version 1.5.4+ or by encrypting the wallet.

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July 28, 2017, 08:40:35 PM
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Not having done this for a long time I think there might be a more fundamental issue than the staking algo

I have a synced client with a fresh and empty wallet.dat using 61% of an A6 6400. OK its only 2 cores but 4GHz

By my reckoning it should be doing next to nothing.

Watch the debug log file tail -f using msys. You will notice each time a new block comes in the CPU spikes.  Blocks roll in VERY fast so the CPU is high a lot.  Ala 20 second block time. You can also turn off stake via version 1.5.4+ or by encrypting the wallet.

So if I understand you correctly the wallet is crushing that machine simply accepting new blocks with nothing else to do?
I wouldn't call it spiking exactly, more .. erm balls out.

Come to mention it I don't think it was working that hard while it was syncing (I wasn't watching particularly) more CPU variance for sure
So possible it could be current network activity making it work harder?

Roll on improvements Smiley


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July 28, 2017, 08:49:25 PM
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Not having done this for a long time I think there might be a more fundamental issue than the staking algo

I have a synced client with a fresh and empty wallet.dat using 61% of an A6 6400. OK its only 2 cores but 4GHz

By my reckoning it should be doing next to nothing.

Watch the debug log file tail -f using msys. You will notice each time a new block comes in the CPU spikes.  Blocks roll in VERY fast so the CPU is high a lot.  Ala 20 second block time. You can also turn off stake via version 1.5.4+ or by encrypting the wallet.

So if I understand you correctly the wallet is crushing that machine simply accepting new blocks with nothing else to do?
I wouldn't call it spiking exactly, more .. erm balls out.

Come to mention it I don't think it was working that hard while it was syncing (I wasn't watching particularly) more CPU variance for sure
So possible it could be current network activity making it work harder?

Roll on improvements Smiley




Mine idles at 1-2% CPU, then spikes to 50% with a new block, then back down in 5 seconds or less. This with the staking improvements I am testing!

90 sec block time and plus other improvement will use 1-5% of a core average over 24 hrs.


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I've been doing a bit of tinkering over here and beginning to feel I'm on the outskirts of the network .
There is a dude in Kiev helping me out but most peers have shocking ping times. (I believe some of the reported times are WAAAY off also)
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These are wallet to wallet ping times, not computer ping times. If their wallet is very busy, it could take a while to respond or it may never respond. You wallet will eventually drop any ping that that is too high

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July 28, 2017, 08:59:46 PM
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No this poor CPU was solid at 60-62% and it's been synced for hours now with a blank wallet.



Yeah I guessed the ping times may be software related as I added a node on my LAN which did seem to improve sync
as one machine soon pushed 4M at the other but both were reporting some wayward pings from 10-15ms to 100s of seconds

I believe they did eventually part company as the connected time got reset along the way ...

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I now you are working on a new version that probably addresses some of these, but just in case ...
Often when I stake the chain gets stuck. I will have  my new staked block, and then nothing happens (except cpu works overtime) for up to 15 minutes. Then suddenly it realises, the blockchain has moved on, invalidates my new found block, and catches up on the missing blocks.

Either way, looking forward to the coming version Smiley
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I now you are working on a new version that probably addresses some of these, but just in case ...
Often when I stake the chain gets stuck. I will have  my new staked block, and then nothing happens (except cpu works overtime) for up to 15 minutes. Then suddenly it realises, the blockchain has moved on, invalidates my new found block, and catches up on the missing blocks.

Either way, looking forward to the coming version Smiley

Yes, I have also had this problem. It comes from someone spamming blocks seconds apart. Sometimes the wallet misses one in the middle and is waiting for it to come in but it doesn't know for sure if it is part of the main block chain or not. So eventually it creates its own block and the other wallets tell it sorry no good, so it ask again for the missing block. All the while all of rest of the wallets are also very busy with the huge number of block coming in quickly, and they may not get to your request right away.  Eventually you get it and any bock that you staked you now know is no good, and they are orphaned.

If you notice this, it is best to shut down and restart.    I also notice using the repair wallet and removing the orphan transactions does help as well. It can take a long time. like 30 mins or more if you haven't done it for years, like me. Smiley

Again this can be solved with a slower block time!!!!

No this poor CPU was solid at 60-62% and it's been synced for hours now with a blank wallet.


If this is still the case I would like a full copy of the debug.log file. Especially if you can run it in -debug mode for a while.  I have never experienced a blank wallet pegging a CPU for so long, unless it is catching up or the block chain is getting spammed. Otherwise is should idle between 1-5%.

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No this poor CPU was solid at 60-62% and it's been synced for hours now with a blank wallet.


If this is still the case I would like a full copy of the debug.log file. Especially if you can run it in -debug mode for a while.  I have never experienced a blank wallet pegging a CPU for so long, unless it is catching up or the block chain is getting spammed. Otherwise is should idle between 1-5%.
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No problem I shut the wallet down in that state so the ed of the log should catch it.

I'll restart it again tomorrow in -debug and see if it replicates or if it was transient network activity or not send you that one too.



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No this poor CPU was solid at 60-62% and it's been synced for hours now with a blank wallet.


If this is still the case I would like a full copy of the debug.log file. Especially if you can run it in -debug mode for a while.  I have never experienced a blank wallet pegging a CPU for so long, unless it is catching up or the block chain is getting spammed. Otherwise is should idle between 1-5%.

No problem I shut the wallet down in that state so the ed of the log should catch it.

I'll restart it again tomorrow in -debug and see if it replicates or if it was transient network activity or not send you that one too.



ooops buggered up the quotes

Take into account your little netbook prob has a tiny 5400 rpm sata HDD on a board with minimal RAM available (are you hitting page file?) and that has a huge impact on the performance of this fast blocktime coin.

FWIW I do understand your point... a POS coin should be able to run on a 2GB+ RAM dual core netbook no questions asked. Tranz is working his Jedi powers to make it so... give it time there really is only room for this coin to gain value.

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