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Author Topic: HoboNickels - HBN - High Fast Stake - Version 2.0! More Secure, Less Intensive  (Read 409137 times)
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September 05, 2017, 04:10:00 PM
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I got my wallet to sync, it is really sluggish, but is synced. Is it supposed to be staking still? If not is there a command to stop staking?
In  the menu you can choose Stop staking ( wallet 1.5.5.5)

Whether staking or just synching, this is not really a coin you can leave the wallet running, it has always been like that, a very heavy wallet that uses a lot of resources and advances very slowly. It can take one day to synch one weeks worth of blocks. I've had hobonickels since almost the very beginning and I only use the wallet once every long while then put it back in storage.
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September 05, 2017, 09:39:34 PM
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Hi everyone. I am sorry to report, there does appear to be an issue with the network.

There is eitehr some bug that is causing people to create their own chain, or it is an orphan attack.

Basically, there are wallets that are running their own chain. For those of us that are on the correct chain, we just ignore the bad blocks. But when a new wallet comes online and it ask for blocks, if they connect to the bad wallet(s) they also begin to propagate the bad chain.


You can see the block explorer has now began to get the bad chain .

5633463   3 hours 48 minutes    20.4 kB   100.901936 HBN   0.0041    Proof of Stake   <--   Bad
5633462   4 hours 18 minutes    20.4 kB   96.319193 HBN   0.0041    Proof of Stake   <-- Good

Never should a block wait more then 1 or 2 mins, let alone almost 30.


You can always tell if you are on the correct chain by running these 2 commands.

Code:
getinfo
{
"version" : "v1.5.5.4-g87b0f55-V1.5",
"protocolversion" : 70009,
[u][b]"blocks" : 5634393,[/b][/u]
"timeoffset" : -18,
"moneysupply" : 58921229.54781200,
"connections" : 7,
...
}

getcheckpoint

{
"synccheckpoint" : "45a8a0fa9c5f83d50dbe39cb21bf1bbc19b4809f3d2c92ad1ecd5a5089451606",
[u][b]"height" : 5634393,[/b][/u]
"timestamp" : "2017-09-05 21:36:01 UTC",
"data" : {
"parsed" : {
"version" : 1,
"hash" : "45a8a0fa9c5f83d50dbe39cb21bf1bbc19b4809f3d2c92ad1ecd5a5089451606"
},
"raw" : {
"data" : "0100000006164589505acd1ead922c3d9f80b419bc1bbf21cb39be0dd5835f9cfaa0a845",
"signature" : "304402200daecb0af88c43f3792f0d92ddb111eed05a98917a1703b9e28fb63c3825a8d502204584d18e8484855e17d9ad6710bc102b3ce5e7d1bff77a1e83c9580bd5769af2"
}
},
"policy" : "strict"
}


If these 2 do not match, you might as well shut off the wallet, your chain is only making it worse.

I don't know the reason yet, nor do I have a fix. I'll be investigating as much as possible. Sadly this is a very bad time, as work is very busy as is school and family.


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September 05, 2017, 10:12:53 PM
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That's no good.
I just saw my wallet was unsync'd for about 4-5 days.

Could we get a list of approved/known nodes?

I've got quite a few and don't want to be attached to any bad ones if possible.

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September 05, 2017, 10:26:07 PM
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That's no good.
I just saw my wallet was unsync'd for about 4-5 days.

Could we get a list of approved/known nodes?

I've got quite a few and don't want to be attached to any bad ones if possible.

my guess some new folks got into hbn, and as all badass newbies do they sync open/unencrypted,
making their best to fork now and then ) until they learn to sync closed/encrypted,
or until they learn not to get into things like hbn in the first place - slow, bulky, hungry etc...
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September 05, 2017, 10:47:18 PM
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Are the old clients disconnected for sure?
Aren't there too many people generating PoS coins at the same time?

Switching a codebase might be the worst-case option

Code:

getinfo
{
"version" : "v1.5.5.5-g87b0f55-V1.5",
"protocolversion" : 70009,
"blocks" : 5633655,
"timeoffset" : -47,
"moneysupply" : 58886915.28573300,
"connections" : 18,
"walletversion" : 60002,
"balance" : 0.00000000,
"unspendable" : 0.00000000,
"wallets" : 2,
"tolbal-all-wallets" : ---,
"proxy" : "",
"ip" : ---,
"difficulty" : 0.15742026,
"testnet" : false,
"paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
"mininput" : 0.00100000,
"errors" : ""
}

getcheckpoint
{
"synccheckpoint" : "436d8a36d77242488b7b75a9687917f3cf29fe59025a72022d89f0ba8933d44e",
"height" : 5632990,
"timestamp" : "2017-09-05 14:30:00 UTC",
"policy" : "strict"
}


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September 05, 2017, 10:54:09 PM
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I will release version 1.5.5.5 here tonight or tomorrow that will disconnect bad clients. Pleas ensure you are at version least version 1.5.3+ or preferably at 1.5.5.4 (soon 1.5.5.5).

Could this be the reason? Are old versions creating their own chain?
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September 05, 2017, 11:37:05 PM
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I will release version 1.5.5.5 here tonight or tomorrow that will disconnect bad clients. Pleas ensure you are at version least version 1.5.3+ or preferably at 1.5.5.4 (soon 1.5.5.5).

Could this be the reason? Are old versions creating their own chain?

old versions get disconnected as expected.
technically right now i see someone made a longer but less difficult chain which can't win, just making a mess.
either it will win or won't, if not - we have 2 perfectly beautiful chains lol


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September 05, 2017, 11:38:20 PM
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I will release version 1.5.5.5 here tonight or tomorrow that will disconnect bad clients. Pleas ensure you are at version least version 1.5.3+ or preferably at 1.5.5.4 (soon 1.5.5.5).

Could this be the reason? Are old versions creating their own chain?

old versions get disconnected as expected.
technically right now i see someone made a longer but less difficult chain which can't win, just making a mess.
now it's ~800 blocks longer, perhaps initially much longer than main one.
lets hope all this resolves soon.


How is that possible? Isn't difficulty based on number of blocks?

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September 05, 2017, 11:40:01 PM
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I will release version 1.5.5.5 here tonight or tomorrow that will disconnect bad clients. Pleas ensure you are at version least version 1.5.3+ or preferably at 1.5.5.4 (soon 1.5.5.5).

Could this be the reason? Are old versions creating their own chain?

old versions get disconnected as expected.
technically right now i see someone made a longer but less difficult chain which can't win, just making a mess.
now it's ~800 blocks longer, perhaps initially much longer than main one.
lets hope all this resolves soon.


How is that possible? Isn't difficulty based on number of blocks?

who told you this ? punch him in the face
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September 05, 2017, 11:40:48 PM
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No not good. As I said I don't the for sure reason yet. But I do know this. These forks are happening when the difficulty is at the lowest. They would be very difficult if not impossible to happen if we had difficulty that was higher.

So here is my game plan.

I am going to issue an immediate fork, that I will need at least a good 5-10 of you that have good stakes to update right away.   This will turn off PoW and set the block time for PoS to 3 mins. I will also update the degrading percentage to offset this, so as the difficulty goes up, the percentage the stake reward goes down will only be changed a little.

We will let this new version burn in for a few weeks and if the issue still exists, and I haven't found the under lying reason. We will.... *sigh*.... look at a coin swap.......  But that is the last resort.

The fork will take some to code, hopefully I can have something ready by tomorrow or Thursday and have it take effect by Friday or Saturday.  So if you are able to, please stayed tuned I will need some nodes out there running 24/7 for a bit.




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September 05, 2017, 11:43:43 PM
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I will release version 1.5.5.5 here tonight or tomorrow that will disconnect bad clients. Pleas ensure you are at version least version 1.5.3+ or preferably at 1.5.5.4 (soon 1.5.5.5).

Could this be the reason? Are old versions creating their own chain?

old versions get disconnected as expected.
technically right now i see someone made a longer but less difficult chain which can't win, just making a mess.
now it's ~800 blocks longer, perhaps initially much longer than main one.
lets hope all this resolves soon.


How is that possible? Isn't difficulty based on number of blocks?


This is not true. The longer chain right now is the correct chain.

"blocks" : 5634793,

The bad chain I see is currently at 5633693  almost 1k behind....

Edit:

Has anyone been connected for multiple days now that is not on the correct chain??  Every client I have connected is still on the right chain, even though they are all getting bad blocks.

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September 05, 2017, 11:46:20 PM
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I will release version 1.5.5.5 here tonight or tomorrow that will disconnect bad clients. Pleas ensure you are at version least version 1.5.3+ or preferably at 1.5.5.4 (soon 1.5.5.5).

Could this be the reason? Are old versions creating their own chain?

old versions get disconnected as expected.
technically right now i see someone made a longer but less difficult chain which can't win, just making a mess.
now it's ~800 blocks longer, perhaps initially much longer than main one.
lets hope all this resolves soon.


How is that possible? Isn't difficulty based on number of blocks?


This is not true. The longer chain right now is the correct chain.

"blocks" : 5634793,

The bad chain I see is currently at 5633693  almost 1k behind....

and i'm on the "bad" chain, as well as cryptoid, for me it is good lol
well i'd better revert to earlier backup, and wait until the fork resolves
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September 05, 2017, 11:59:29 PM
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FYI I have turned off the checkpoint server for now.

Here are nodes that are on the right chain.

178.68.74.93:7372
109.227.254.135:7372
188.61.212.220:7372
[2001:0:9d38:6abd:38fe:22cc:e02c:118]:7372
178.248.4.130:7372
176.37.67.61:7372
5.103.138.97:7372
83.255.67.196:7372
94.143.245.5:7372


More as I find them.

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September 06, 2017, 12:09:30 AM
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on the right chain now, not a problem to make it to any chain,
just need to know which one is right !
good nodes i see so far:

addnode=109.227.254.135:7372
addnode=188.61.212.220:7372
addnode=5.103.138.97:7372
addnode=178.68.74.93:7372

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September 06, 2017, 12:12:38 AM
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on the right chain now, not a problem to make it to any chain,
just need to know which one is right !
good nodes i see so far:

addnode=109.227.254.135:7372
addnode=188.61.212.220:7372
addnode=5.103.138.97:7372
addnode=178.68.74.93:7372



Can you share for others how you quickly jumped to the right chain?

Best chain right now.
2017-09-06 00:12:42 SetBestChain: new best=81c8158a98331357e02c height=5634889 trust=87382706892653 blocktrust=16887504 date=09/06/17 00:11:10

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September 06, 2017, 12:26:52 AM
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Can you share for others how you quickly jumped to the right chain?


of course not, i love em suffer for their sins.
just a tip:
revert to earlier chain, before the fork,
restrict your wallet connections ONLY to good nodes
(on default port, showing the right starting height),
and sync up to the right chain.
when done reopen wallet to all connections.

actually it's not quick if you haven't a backup chain of no more than days ago
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September 06, 2017, 12:28:27 AM
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Can you share for others how you quickly jumped to the right chain?


of course not, i love em suffer for their sins.
just a tip:
revert to earlier chain, before the fork,
restrict your wallet connections ONLY to good nodes
(on default port, showing the right starting height),
and sync up to the right chain.
when done reopen wallet to all connections.

actually it's not quick if you haven't a backup chain of no more than days ago


Well the .zip on hobonickels.info is pretty new. I will keep it updated as well.  Working on a bit of coding for 1.5.6 fork..

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September 06, 2017, 01:08:19 AM
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Looks like I was on the bad chain.

Trimmed my nodes to the ones you listed and am reverting back to a 8/10 chain I had downloaded. Will see if it pulls onto the right one.

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September 06, 2017, 01:22:49 AM
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on the right chain now, not a problem to make it to any chain,
just need to know which one is right !
good nodes i see so far:

addnode=109.227.254.135:7372
addnode=188.61.212.220:7372
addnode=5.103.138.97:7372
addnode=178.68.74.93:7372



Thank you for this Nodes.  Cheesy
First i was on the wrong chain and full sync.
I closed my wallet and i delete my peers.dat and add this Nodes.
Now my wallet jumps to the right chain and orphan the wrong blocks from my wallet Smiley



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September 06, 2017, 01:29:28 AM
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on the right chain now, not a problem to make it to any chain,
just need to know which one is right !
good nodes i see so far:

addnode=109.227.254.135:7372
addnode=188.61.212.220:7372
addnode=5.103.138.97:7372
addnode=178.68.74.93:7372



Thank you for this Nodes.  Cheesy
First i was on the wrong chain and full sync.
I closed my wallet and i delete my peers.dat and add this Nodes.
Now my wallet jumps to the right chain and orphan the wrong blocks from my wallet Smiley




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