HoboNickels - HBN - High Fast Stake - Version 2.0! More Secure, Less Intensive

[Lizzie_Girl]

If I'm wrong I'm sorry but I though hobo nickels were died ? Didn't they almost die out at some stage this year ? I never saw this thread come up. Only now I have seen it. It sounds like it will probably be a good investment.

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[Digi7ech]

What about we stimulate the Cryptopia exchange?

Paytopia is there's portal for advertising a coin. It's paid for through Cryptopia's coin DOT.
For example. Having a HBN lottery would be 30k DOT a month or at todays rate (.045 btc)
Adding HBN to the tipping section of chat,etc would be 60k DOT a month.

If exchange users had HBN to spend, it would keep the hbn/btc market flowing while possibly getting new users to look at the coin.

Do we have funds to do something like that? I can donate some HBN(15-20k?), but don't really have btc to directly donate.

[Digi7ech]

If I'm wrong I'm sorry but I though hobo nickels were died ? Didn't they almost die out at some stage this year ? I never saw this thread come up. Only now I have seen it. It sounds like it will probably be a good investment.

Cryptsy's death meant our biggest exchange went away so the coins value plummeted as you had no where to exchange them.

That and Tranz's absence didn't help.

While not having a Dev, doesn't mean the death of a coin.. Having an active Dev is a huge bolster to it's capabilities.

[Tranz]

Heyho Tranz 

Welcome back. You have a Donate adress 4 some HBN's for you Tranz ? 

Better to make a faucet that can help new people get started.

Devs do not need food or money, they eat bytes.

Feed by data that's right.  A faucet is a good idea, has to be outside of BCT, but we can link to it.  We can also see about getting HBN accepted as tips on Cryptopia.  Anyone want take that on?

What about we stimulate the Cryptopia exchange?

Paytopia is there's portal for advertising a coin. It's paid for through Cryptopia's coin DOT.
For example. Having a HBN lottery would be 30k DOT a month or at todays rate (.045 btc)
Adding HBN to the tipping section of chat,etc would be 60k DOT a month.

If exchange users had HBN to spend, it would keep the hbn/btc market flowing while possibly getting new users to look at the coin.

Do we have funds to do something like that? I can donate some HBN(15-20k?), but don't really have btc to directly donate.

Nice ideas. I can create a wallet that will hold the funds if we need.  Seems a bit pricey for some of the tipping stuff. $100 a month could go to other better use.  But if others are willing to go along so am I. 

If I'm wrong I'm sorry but I though hobo nickels were died ? Didn't they almost die out at some stage this year ? I never saw this thread come up. Only now I have seen it. It sounds like it will probably be a good investment.

Never dead. The network has been running great for 4 years now!

[daemonfox]

If I'm wrong I'm sorry but I though hobo nickels were died ? Didn't they almost die out at some stage this year ? I never saw this thread come up. Only now I have seen it. It sounds like it will probably be a good investment.

Never dead. The network has been running great for 4 years now!

Never dead... only chugging away as designed!

78MH/s lol... while not huge, that is still power behind the coin.

Code:


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"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : {
"proof-of-work" : 2.54715598,
"proof-of-stake" : 0.00392457,
"search-interval" : 1
},
"errors" : "",
"netmhashps" : 78.14251151,
"netstakeweight" : 516189.29698970,
"generate" : false,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespersec" : 0,
"stakeweight" : {
"minimum" : 0,
"maximum" : 0,
"combined" : 0
},
"stakeinterest" : 1000000,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}

[PeterTheGrape]

What about we stimulate the Cryptopia exchange?

Paytopia is there's portal for advertising a coin. It's paid for through Cryptopia's coin DOT.
For example. Having a HBN lottery would be 30k DOT a month or at todays rate (.045 btc)
Adding HBN to the tipping section of chat,etc would be 60k DOT a month.

If exchange users had HBN to spend, it would keep the hbn/btc market flowing while possibly getting new users to look at the coin.

Do we have funds to do something like that? I can donate some HBN(15-20k?), but don't really have btc to directly donate.

Nice ideas. I can create a wallet that will hold the funds if we need.  Seems a bit pricey for some of the tipping stuff. $100 a month could go to other better use.  But if others are willing to go along so am I. 

All for ideas that produce something of substance but honestly that sounds like garbage.

[Digi7ech]

yeah, with the price of btc right now. It is pretty hefty, but when you're at the mercy of limited exchanges. You may have to deal with that stuff.

This is a hands off option. No coding/programming needed with an instant user base.

You can absolutely do stuff for cheaper. A faucet will require actual USD/Money to purchase a domain,server,etc then there's coding/programming it to work.

Cryptopia has a cool gimmick that caught me. KDC Clicker. It's a "faucet" but pays out via a typical idle clicker game. it keeps you interested instead of just spamming for coins.

[Tranz]

Hi all,

Got this message, wanted to get community feedback.

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So what do we think about this exchange? I know exactly zero about it.  Any have a DD on it?  Do we think HBN could get enough volume to support 2 exchanges. And do we think this is the one to do it?

[PeterTheGrape]

Hi all,

Got this message, wanted to get community feedback.

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Payment method: Only in Bitcoin: 1A7QiA6iRwfkYSivMxrYPQDWBXypGcgC57

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Uhm   https://blockchain.info/address/1A7QiA6iRwfkYSivMxrYPQDWBXypGcgC57

This kind of project is obviously going to proliferate soon. I'd wait til the fee drops to under 100 sats for a listing. Or else start your own exchange with hbn as the base currency.

edit to add
hbn started out as a kind of poor man's fair currency. It would be better to work on distributing small amounts to people with less income who are not traders and are new to coins. That is a more solid long term approach. ).1 is a low fee though and it could well be many months before exchanges are obsolete. In fact going to paste that post onto the Soilcoin thread...

[versprichnix]

edit to add
hbn started out as a kind of poor man's fair currency. It would be better to work on distributing small amounts to people with less income who are not traders and are new to coins. That is a more solid long term approach. ).1 is a low fee though and it could well be many months before exchanges are obsolete. In fact going to paste that post onto the Soilcoin thread...

I think about a fair distribution of coins for years, and not yet found a solution. How to distribute coins to a large number of different people similar to a basic income, without opening doors for automated processes to gain undesirable profits? Any suggestions to this? My goal is, one individual gets one coin every week

[HCLivess]

edit to add
hbn started out as a kind of poor man's fair currency. It would be better to work on distributing small amounts to people with less income who are not traders and are new to coins. That is a more solid long term approach. ).1 is a low fee though and it could well be many months before exchanges are obsolete. In fact going to paste that post onto the Soilcoin thread...

I think about a fair distribution of coins for years, and not yet found a solution. How to distribute coins to a large number of different people similar to a basic income, without opening doors for automated processes to gain undesirable profits? Any suggestions to this? My goal is, one individual gets one coin every week

captchacoin

[versprichnix]

edit to add
hbn started out as a kind of poor man's fair currency. It would be better to work on distributing small amounts to people with less income who are not traders and are new to coins. That is a more solid long term approach. ).1 is a low fee though and it could well be many months before exchanges are obsolete. In fact going to paste that post onto the Soilcoin thread...

I think about a fair distribution of coins for years, and not yet found a solution. How to distribute coins to a large number of different people similar to a basic income, without opening doors for automated processes to gain undesirable profits? Any suggestions to this? My goal is, one individual gets one coin every week

captchacoin

I hear about captchas all the time, I don't believe they are resistant against bots and sockpuppets.

[pazor_true]

wallet updated to 1.5.2 and now resync from a bootstrap file
it is a long way

[*Sakura*]

Hello! Does the HBN wallet have a "splitthreshold" function? If so, did I set the parameters correctly in the HoboNickels.conf file:

splitthreshold=4000
combinethreshold=1000

 My blocks continue to split into small blocks.

Or maybe it must be "setsplitthreshold", like on a console command?

[Zels]

08:35:54: combinethreshold 5000
08:35:58 { "amount" : 4478.07000000 }
08:36:12: splitthreshold 5000
08:36:14: { "amount" : 2239.29000000 }

Try in console, amount depend on how much coin you have in total, more coin, higher value can be used

[*Sakura*]

Thank you all for your answers!

[PeterTheGrape]

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I think about a fair distribution of coins for years, and not yet found a solution. How to distribute coins to a large number of different people similar to a basic income, without opening doors for automated processes to gain undesirable profits? Any suggestions to this? My goal is, one individual gets one coin every week

It is a problem of society that in cities, in order to survive, a person needs something as unnatural as 'money'.

Anyway your question is probably the biggest one in economics, even before crypto.

But crypto may provide more sensible solutions than blanket rules like '1 coin per 1 person per week'.

[Tranz]

wallet updated to 1.5.2 and now resync from a bootstrap file
it is a long way

Hey sorry about that.  The pulls into my repo are not always 100%. I am going to be adding A LOT of stuff to it over the next few months. Some of it may not work right away. So please keep that mind.  Please be sure to create good copies for both the wallet and other vital file before upgrading any of the executable.

After full regression testing on test and main net I will pull into the main repo.

FYI I plan to implement headers soon into the index so we can run non-staking, lite weight Electrum and Android type wallets.  So after that is done, another re-index will be needed. That's point I planned to move to main repo. And then work on other things like hard forks.

That said I do appreciate the beta testing, please let me know if you have issues.

[versprichnix]

But crypto may provide more sensible solutions than blanket rules like '1 coin per 1 person per week'.

I know about this "sensible" solutions, XRP and other coins are representatives of them. My world is VERY easy and "unsensible", I'm serious. The same weekly amount to every individual all over the world. For the first time coins with a value of two dollars a day are enought.

[PeterTheGrape]

But crypto may provide more sensible solutions than blanket rules like '1 coin per 1 person per week'.

I know about this "sensible" solutions, XRP and other coins are representatives of them. My world is VERY easy and "unsensible", I'm serious. The same weekly amount to every individual all over the world. For the first time coins with a value of two dollars a day are enought.

1) A currency first has to "produce" something, before it can be distributed as a new store of value, otherwise you are trying to redistribute somebody else's 'wealth', and will be in a weak defensive position. The best beginning of this step, to my knowledge, would be something like a crypto that requires human interaction. So called "capcha" coins are a poor misguided sidestep in that direction. It would be an easy thing to do though. The only coin that has made serious progress in that area, as far as I know, is huntercoin.

2) xrp etc are not currencies that focus on distribution models, aside from airdrops etc. xrp is a corporate currency, not more not less. It has nothing whatsoever to do with any distribution balance.

3) Giving the exact same amount to every individual makes no sense either. Aside from the distribution side there is also services/supply. Should an individual who needs expensive medicine have to do without everything except that medicine, while another person gets easy money to spend all their time stoned? Nothing wrong with getting stoned if that's what a person wants, but it should not be subsidized the same way as survival.

4) the basic point you make is accurate. If a currency could distribute $2 in useable currency to every person, it would improve things more than it would worsen them, for most people. The main bottleneck has to do with things like education. you could look at coins like humaniq, that claim to have that ambition. Even then there are lots of small issues. If you distribute by thumbprint to the uneducated then there will be a market for severed thumbs in some areas.

5) Another consideration is the carrying capacity of the planet. Crypto does have the potential to quickly extend lifespans and similar things, but even today we still have policymakers who make large decisions based on demographic considerations, if you want to call it that, or 'population control'. Until there is more effort to extend available real estate to outer space there will be many people who will sabotage efforts to create a level playing field for less wealthy places.