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September 23, 2017, 02:07:02 PM
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Bye the way; Do you have a twitter account Tranz???


Cool bot!

No I don't have a twitter. But thanks!



I have a block that is 19 days old which has not staked.  Other blocks, younger than this one have staked.  Is this normal?  Is there anything I need to do for this block?

Thanks again.

Luck and weight are the 2 main ingredients. If those that are that old are smaller in size they could take longer. I have some that are approaching 30 days 1 -2k in size.  

You can never predict when a block will stake, you can only, with fairly good accuracy, predict when the half of a group of blocks will hit. Similar to half life of a decaying atom.



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My new organized stakes have reached an aging time of over 8.8 days, but nevertheless the message is "not staking because you don't have mature coins", and "Current Wallet PoS Weight: 0". I hope staking begins after day 10, otherwise we had a real problem.

Well it's no worse then the 10 days it was, but at 8.8 you should start gaining weight.  If you type getmininginfo in the rpc console the minimum still says 0?

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September 24, 2017, 03:33:33 PM
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Well it's no worse then the 10 days it was, but at 8.8 you should start gaining weight.  If you type getmininginfo in the rpc console the minimum still says 0?

It works smooth now, it's minting.
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September 24, 2017, 08:39:12 PM
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One step closer to decentralized crypto exchange. Hbn should jump on the train.

https://bitsonline.com/first-litecoin-bitcoin-atomic-swap/

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September 26, 2017, 01:11:08 AM
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Since we now have a network that appears to be fairly stable. I am going to code up some of the user requests we have had over the days.

Here is what I have so far anything else I maybe missing?
 
  • Fix Coin Control to only show weight after 8.8 days (Temporary until fork is coded and date set)
  • Allow for larger split/combine threshold settings
  • Allow for 100% stake for charity
  • Fix the estimated time to stake in gui
  • Code up stub function, but do not yet implement the stake modifier change. To get stake min at 1 day.

What else?


One step closer to decentralized crypto exchange. Hbn should jump on the train.

https://bitsonline.com/first-litecoin-bitcoin-atomic-swap/
Seqwit is a huge undertaking. I would love to implement it. But unless I have a team of developer and testers, it is not going to happen anytime soon.

I want to focus my time for now, on bettering the wallet and network, continuing to re-base with newest bitcoin, creating a light weight and Android wallet that can stake, and adding other functionality.

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September 26, 2017, 08:15:09 AM
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I like this realistic thinking. And apply to your test team  Cheesy

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September 26, 2017, 07:50:30 PM
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Since we now have a network that appears to be fairly stable. I am going to code up some of the user requests we have had over the days.

Here is what I have so far anything else I maybe missing?
 
  • Fix Coin Control to only show weight after 8.8 days (Temporary until fork is coded and date set)
  • Allow for larger split/combine threshold settings
  • Allow for 100% stake for charity
  • Fix the estimated time to stake in gui
  • Code up stub function, but do not yet implement the stake modifier change. To get stake min at 1 day.

What else?


  • Allow for larger split/combine threshold settings
i can set split/combine manual ?

What else?
A block or age timer ? if blocknumber/age x then move 1 coin to adress y

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September 26, 2017, 09:19:34 PM
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I suggest allowing the user to set any split threshold they like.
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September 27, 2017, 04:16:09 AM
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I suggest allowing the user to set any split threshold they like.

I agree, the risk of going over max reward should be sufficient to prevent the creation of excessively large block sizes.  I would also like to have the set values persist through wallet restarts as it is a pain to have to repeatedly set these values whenever there is a need to restart the wallet.
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September 27, 2017, 05:52:12 PM
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Hmm why not set automatically the best split/combine threshold or manual (two options)

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September 27, 2017, 09:02:34 PM
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  • Allow for larger split/combine threshold settings
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I suggest allowing the user to set any split threshold they like.

I agree, the risk of going over max reward should be sufficient to prevent the creation of excessively large block sizes.  I would also like to have the set values persist through wallet restarts as it is a pain to have to repeatedly set these values whenever there is a need to restart the wallet.

How many times can I vote for this?

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September 27, 2017, 10:20:03 PM
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I agree, the risk of going over max reward should be sufficient to prevent the creation of excessively large block sizes.  I would also like to have the set values persist through wallet restarts as it is a pain to have to repeatedly set these values whenever there is a need to restart the wallet.

what pain ?  2 lines in conf and you'r done
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September 27, 2017, 11:27:21 PM
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I agree, the risk of going over max reward should be sufficient to prevent the creation of excessively large block sizes.  I would also like to have the set values persist through wallet restarts as it is a pain to have to repeatedly set these values whenever there is a need to restart the wallet.

what pain ?  2 lines in conf and you'r done

It would be great if that worked.   It does not.    Nor does it work as a command line option.  At least not under Win7
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September 28, 2017, 01:40:28 AM
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I agree, the risk of going over max reward should be sufficient to prevent the creation of excessively large block sizes.  I would also like to have the set values persist through wallet restarts as it is a pain to have to repeatedly set these values whenever there is a need to restart the wallet.

what pain ?  2 lines in conf and you'r done

It would be great if that worked.   It does not.    Nor does it work as a command line option.  At least not under Win7

works for me it seems.
ok, if not, 2 lines in a batch file using curl
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September 28, 2017, 08:23:26 AM
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I agree, the risk of going over max reward should be sufficient to prevent the creation of excessively large block sizes.  I would also like to have the set values persist through wallet restarts as it is a pain to have to repeatedly set these values whenever there is a need to restart the wallet.

what pain ?  2 lines in conf and you'r done

It would be great if that worked.   It does not.    Nor does it work as a command line option.  At least not under Win7

works for me it seems.
ok, if not, 2 lines in a batch file using curl

No unless it was fixed in last releases then it does not work from the conf.

Also I agree, I should be 100% user discretion.
Some of us enjoy trying for the 249.99 (adjust to your POS coin limits) at the minimum age by predicting future difficulty etc ...
part of the fun. reward vs time compound interest balance game.
clicking hundreds of blocks in coin control (cough bottlecaps) not so much! < included for contrast
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September 28, 2017, 05:34:43 PM
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I agree, the risk of going over max reward should be sufficient to prevent the creation of excessively large block sizes.  I would also like to have the set values persist through wallet restarts as it is a pain to have to repeatedly set these values whenever there is a need to restart the wallet.

what pain ?  2 lines in conf and you'r done

It would be great if that worked.   It does not.    Nor does it work as a command line option.  At least not under Win7

works for me it seems.
ok, if not, 2 lines in a batch file using curl

If the maximum you are attempting is not very big, then the settings you are describing work.  But at least at the time I tried it, the maximum values allowed using those settings did not allow any where near the amounts I am able to set the threshold(s) too after the wallet is running.

There was in fact a way to use command line and/or .conf settings to set a higher (but not much higher) value when I originally attempted to automate it,  The problem at the time was that the maximum acceptable values used at wallet startup were much lower than what a larger stakeholder was able to set the values to after the wallet was running.  It seems like the startup maximum was something like 200 HBN which is kind of like "why bother" raising it from the default value of 5 at all.  Larger stakeholder were able to set the value much higher than 200 (based upon total HBN in wallet) but only after the wallet was up and running. 

This may have changed in a subsequent wallet release and when I get a little time I will see if setting those values again allows for a more reasonable max threshold at startup.
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September 29, 2017, 01:59:04 AM
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I hear you everyone!!  Grin

At the risk of alienating people and sounding like a broken record. I don't think I can give free rein to the split and combine threshold, at least not yet.  There is too much at risk with the network. Keeping the difficulty going up requires more blocks ready to stake then the chain will allow.

But I do hear you!!

So what I set it at, not yet committed so it can yet change, is; The standard max, which can be set in the config and startup switch is Split 2500, Combine 5000.  The old was 100/200 so it is a big jump now.

In the wallet I also increased the amount you can set manually. It is now Total of all loaded wallets / 400 for split, and /200 for combine.  The old divisor was 500/250.  

Now in my opinion these numbers are way to high! They are putting the block chain at risk by not getting more stakes out there.  So It is unlikely I change them again until we are at 1 day staking and/or we are in the double digits for stake difficulty.  The wallet is efficient at staking, and I have plans to further increase this, so there is not much need to make this much higher.

If you want higher, you will have to compile the wallet and add your own settings.  Hint, it is 2 lines..


So other then the split/combine threshold max anything else???

I plan to release 2.0.1.0 next few days. So I am looking for quick hitters, nothing hugely complex, at least right now.

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September 29, 2017, 02:06:07 AM
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I have a suggestion.

In Coin Control, can you add the ability to hold shift and click multiple amounts at once? Or am I doing it wrong by single clicking a bunch of small stacks into a large stack?
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September 29, 2017, 03:15:46 AM
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I have a suggestion.

In Coin Control, can you add the ability to hold shift and click multiple amounts at once? Or am I doing it wrong by single clicking a bunch of small stacks into a large stack?

You can use the space bar and down or up button to select quickly.

I also suggest playing with the select coins (amount/age/weight >< ) feature. It is a way to grab certain coins quickly

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September 29, 2017, 05:57:28 AM
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I hear you everyone!!  Grin

At the risk of alienating people and sounding like a broken record. I don't think I can give free rein to the split and combine threshold, at least not yet.  There is too much at risk with the network. Keeping the difficulty going up requires more blocks ready to stake then the chain will allow.

But I do hear you!!

So what I set it at, not yet committed so it can yet change, is; The standard max, which can be set in the config and startup switch is Split 2500, Combine 5000.  The old was 100/200 so it is a big jump now.

In the wallet I also increased the amount you can set manually. It is now Total of all loaded wallets / 400 for split, and /200 for combine.  The old divisor was 500/250.  

Now in my opinion these numbers are way to high! They are putting the block chain at risk by not getting more stakes out there.  So It is unlikely I change them again until we are at 1 day staking and/or we are in the double digits for stake difficulty.  The wallet is efficient at staking, and I have plans to further increase this, so there is not much need to make this much higher.

If you want higher, you will have to compile the wallet and add your own settings.  Hint, it is 2 lines..


So other then the split/combine threshold max anything else???

I plan to release 2.0.1.0 next few days. So I am looking for quick hitters, nothing hugely complex, at least right now.

A perfectly acceptable solution!  My sleepy, offhand, just prior to going to bed comment that the "max reward should be sufficient to prevent the creation of excessively large block sizes" was not based upon any real math.  Projections even if the current difficulty following the wallet upgrade holds, easily shows that allowing the max stake reward to be the only limiting factor in split/combine max thresholds would allow the value to be set way to high to support a healthy network and allowing the max persisted values that you have stated above will pretty much solve the issue for most people anyway.

Your statement regarding compiling your own settings answers another question I had about whether the max limitation was enforced at the individual wallet level or at the network protocol level and should be a perfectly acceptable option to anyone who would like to go down that route as well.
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September 29, 2017, 08:34:20 PM
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That's a huge roadmap, thanks

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