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October 27, 2014, 01:32:15 PM
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Problem with S4C.

When the wallet sends coins to your S4C adres, it not automatically chooses one of the 2 blocks that were just created by the staking process. In my case it chose a 3,5 days old big block to do so. Destroying an unfortunate amount of stake...
I think it chose this block because it was a little smaller than the ones just produced. I don't know how the wallet decides to pick a certain block but the way its done now forces me to stop using S4C.

I think to solve it, the wallet when looking for blocks to send, needs an extra category called priority none, which consists of any block, regardless of size, with an amount of confirmations lower than 100. That way the just produced blocks will be first in line.

Is that a possibility?

PS. since CAP is pretty much the same, I guess this problem exists there as well.

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October 28, 2014, 02:59:46 AM
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Problem with S4C.

When the wallet sends coins to your S4C adres, it not automatically chooses one of the 2 blocks that were just created by the staking process. In my case it chose a 3,5 days old big block to do so. Destroying an unfortunate amount of stake...
I think it chose this block because it was a little smaller than the ones just produced. I don't know how the wallet decides to pick a certain block but the way its done now forces me to stop using S4C.

I think to solve it, the wallet when looking for blocks to send, needs an extra category called priority none, which consists of any block, regardless of size, with an amount of confirmations lower than 100. That way the just produced blocks will be first in line.

Is that a possibility?

PS. since CAP is pretty much the same, I guess this problem exists there as well.

Hello PressF1, yes this is a known risk of S4C in its current form.  The full write-up when I originally coded S4C can be found here: https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/9606-hbn-trouble-shooting-and-user-guide-stake-for-charity/ see the Risk section.

Generally if the wallet has a lot of smaller blocks, it will pick them. But it may pick one that more closely matches the amount being sent, rather then 1 that is lower confirms.

I do think I can tweak this and make it choose lower confirms first.

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October 28, 2014, 08:04:20 AM
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Problem with S4C.

When the wallet sends coins to your S4C adres, it not automatically chooses one of the 2 blocks that were just created by the staking process. In my case it chose a 3,5 days old big block to do so. Destroying an unfortunate amount of stake...
I think it chose this block because it was a little smaller than the ones just produced. I don't know how the wallet decides to pick a certain block but the way its done now forces me to stop using S4C.

I think to solve it, the wallet when looking for blocks to send, needs an extra category called priority none, which consists of any block, regardless of size, with an amount of confirmations lower than 100. That way the just produced blocks will be first in line.

Is that a possibility?

PS. since CAP is pretty much the same, I guess this problem exists there as well.

Hello PressF1, yes this is a known risk of S4C in its current form.  The full write-up when I originally coded S4C can be found here: https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/9606-hbn-trouble-shooting-and-user-guide-stake-for-charity/ see the Risk section.

Generally if the wallet has a lot of smaller blocks, it will pick them. But it may pick one that more closely matches the amount being sent, rather then 1 that is lower confirms.

I do think I can tweak this and make it choose lower confirms first.

That would make it more robust I think. Although normally I suspect it wouldn't be much of a problem. Usually a split block with very few confirms hasn't got the highest priority straight away but in this case it was so big I suspect it had.

And thanks for the link. Useful info indeed!
 

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October 28, 2014, 11:41:54 PM
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Without wishing to detract too much from the great work going on here in this thread, I'd like to ask whether we are being too dependent in having just one exchange on which to trade HBN? Over the last two weeks Cryptsy has come through a rather traumatic time. First the server malfunction/"outrage", which led to a shut-down, and then the highly publicised news of a pending lawsuit.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/cryptocurrency-exchange-cryptsy-owner-paul-vernon-face-lawsuit/

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/silver-law-group-files-lawsuits-against-cryptocurrency-exchanges-bitcoin-savings-trust-and-cryptsy-2014-10-23

Cryptsy seems to have handled both crises remarkably well. Apparently the action hadn't even been filed while all the bad publicity was going on. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the case are, to attempt to apply pressure in that way, is, to my mind, a form of blackmail. Despicable. Paul Vernon, to his credit, has posted a vigorous defence:

http://blog.cryptsy.com/post/100831839452/response-regarding-lawsuit

Cryptsy is one of my favourite exchanges and hopefully should ride through this adversity with little difficulty. Touch wood. However, it does highlight the possible vulnerability of HoboNickels in being reliant too much on one exchange. Perhaps now is a good time to make efforts to be listed on other exchanges.

If there is agreement here on this, the question becomes: which exchanges should we target? Besides the US exchanges, I think that we should look at the Chinese and European exchanges too. There is a comprehensive list of exchanges on this website:

http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/markets/info

Any suggestions?
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October 29, 2014, 01:49:22 AM
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Poloniex or Bittrex.
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October 29, 2014, 03:22:35 AM
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I think you're not doing enough to emphasize HBN's selling points. Wink

Such as.. this is an inhouse, instamined, crapcoin, dreamt up by a Cryptsy admin (Horus) who impersonated the hobo (jdtmp4) that got this pile of shit rolling.

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October 29, 2014, 02:31:02 PM
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I think you're not doing enough to emphasize HBN's selling points. Wink

Such as.. this is an inhouse, instamined, crapcoin, dreamt up by a Cryptsy admin (Horus) who impersonated the hobo (jdtmp4) that got this pile of shit rolling.


hahahahaa, that's like saying to a supreme court judge, "so what you are a famous judge in the highest court in the land, your great grand father was a slave."  

That was a long time ago and qualifies to be called 'history', this is a new day, present leadership is the ONLY true leader the CURRENT community
knows and are very happy with.  

How old are you anyway, like 800?
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October 29, 2014, 10:28:54 PM
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Poloniex or Bittrex.

I have opened a ticket to Poloniex https://poloniex.com/coinRequest I encourage others to do the same.

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October 30, 2014, 07:15:03 AM
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Poloniex or Bittrex.

I have opened a ticket to Poloniex https://poloniex.com/coinRequest I encourage others to do the same.


"Your coin request has been recorded and will be reviewed by Poloniex staff. Thank you. Please only submit this form once per user per coin."

Same here.
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October 30, 2014, 07:06:42 PM
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Poloniex or Bittrex.

I have opened a ticket to Poloniex https://poloniex.com/coinRequest I encourage others to do the same.


HoboNickels is so well known and well regarded they likely know you by name and reputation.   I would suggest you go to the Poloniex thread and issue a direct plea for an exception to the rule via post and PM.    If I had an exchange I would easily expedite the request.
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November 01, 2014, 02:49:00 PM
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Hi everyone,

I am calculating the inflation rate again but I need some help the the HBN money supply at block 1357005. The abe Block explorer is not up to date so I can't figure it out. Tranz, you added this recently to the CAP wallet if you can remember, would that be an option too for HBN?

But just the money supply at 1357005 helps me out for now too. Or is there a command in the debug window that I can use?

thanks!

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November 01, 2014, 02:55:22 PM
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Hi everyone,

I am calculating the inflation rate again but I need some help the the HBN money supply at block 1357005. The abe Block explorer is not up to date so I can't figure it out. Tranz, you added this recently to the CAP wallet if you can remember, would that be an option too for HBN?

But just the money supply at 1357005 helps me out for now too. Or is there a command in the debug window that I can use?

thanks!

I don't think there is a RPC command that will give you historical value.  I can give you an estimate right now(6,990,000), and an exact later. I'll add that money supply to the block explorer as well for 1.5

I had a very busy week outside of Crypto, so I haven't been able to get much done. But I should be able to get the hard fork coded up here, as it looks like the wallet is working pretty good. At least I haven't see many issues.

HBN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303749.0 hobonickels.info
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Hi everyone,

I am calculating the inflation rate again but I need some help the the HBN money supply at block 1357005. The abe Block explorer is not up to date so I can't figure it out. Tranz, you added this recently to the CAP wallet if you can remember, would that be an option too for HBN?

But just the money supply at 1357005 helps me out for now too. Or is there a command in the debug window that I can use?

thanks!

I don't think there is a RPC command that will give you historical value.  I can give you an estimate right now(6,990,000), and an exact later. I'll add that money supply to the block explorer as well for 1.5

I had a very busy week outside of Crypto, so I haven't been able to get much done. But I should be able to get the hard fork coded up here, as it looks like the wallet is working pretty good. At least I haven't see many issues.

Thanks, your estimate fits the data so I guess it's already pretty accurate. And as far as issue's I haven't encountered any actually. I am following two wallets with very small blocks to see the splitting and recombining at work and I came to the conclusion that it works just fine. I'll continue to do so, it's fun to see it happen.


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November 02, 2014, 11:52:54 PM
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High POS HBN-CAP-TEK-HYP Inflation update

So how are we doing inflation-wise in October? Are thing evolving as expected or not?

I posted an update, check it out if you like.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=241445.msg9417938#msg9417938


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November 03, 2014, 03:31:43 AM
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love stacking HBNs Wink

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November 04, 2014, 04:25:56 AM
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Hi everyone,

I am calculating the inflation rate again but I need some help the the HBN money supply at block 1357005. The abe Block explorer is not up to date so I can't figure it out. Tranz, you added this recently to the CAP wallet if you can remember, would that be an option too for HBN?

But just the money supply at 1357005 helps me out for now too. Or is there a command in the debug window that I can use?

thanks!

I don't think there is a RPC command that will give you historical value.  I can give you an estimate right now(6,990,000), and an exact later. I'll add that money supply to the block explorer as well for 1.5

I had a very busy week outside of Crypto, so I haven't been able to get much done. But I should be able to get the hard fork coded up here, as it looks like the wallet is working pretty good. At least I haven't see many issues.

Thanks, your estimate fits the data so I guess it's already pretty accurate. And as far as issue's I haven't encountered any actually. I am following two wallets with very small blocks to see the splitting and recombining at work and I came to the conclusion that it works just fine. I'll continue to do so, it's fun to see it happen.


Added the money supply to the BE. The exact amount is......................................6990701.974698 HBN

HBN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303749.0 hobonickels.info
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November 04, 2014, 04:33:06 AM
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love stacking HBNs Wink

Me 2!. My main client, with 7 loaded wallets is up to 33,000 transactions.  Shocked

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Thanks, your estimate fits the data so I guess it's already pretty accurate. And as far as issue's I haven't encountered any actually. I am following two wallets with very small blocks to see the splitting and recombining at work and I came to the conclusion that it works just fine. I'll continue to do so, it's fun to see it happen.


Added the money supply to the BE. The exact amount is......................................6990701.974698 HBN

Good guessing! thanks

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I think you're not doing enough to emphasize HBN's selling points. Wink

Such as.. this is an inhouse, instamined, crapcoin, dreamt up by a Cryptsy admin (Horus) who impersonated the hobo (jdtmp4) that got this pile of shit rolling.


hahahahaa, that's like saying to a supreme court judge, "so what you are a famous judge in the highest court in the land, your great grand father was a slave."  

That was a long time ago and qualifies to be called 'history', this is a new day, present leadership is the ONLY true leader the CURRENT community
knows and are very happy with.  

How old are you anyway, like 800?

Armis: I like your response to Hippie Tech. It is measured and puts the whole thing into a nutshell.

To Hippie Tech:

I'm not sure whether your question was to me, or through me.  I take it that your post was made in good humour, although I do detect a certain element mischief. Armis has responded to you with equal good humour and has given you what seems to be a good reply.

Nevertheless, I found your post interesting. If anything it strengthened the degree of my trust in HoboNickels, which was quite high to begin with. I quickly read through some of your posts elsewhere. Am I right in assuming that Cryptsy won't be at the top of your Christmas card list this year? One thing that I like about Cryptsy is that, in Paul Vernon, it has the name of someone who is tangible and exists. A face. Someone who is accountable. Someone who attends and speaks at cryptocoin conferences. Someone who obviously believes in what he is doing. Someone who is pushing the boundaries.

The HBN price went down slightly shortly after you posted, so I decided that it might be a good time to buy. I found it very difficult because HBN currently has an aggressive buy wall, which at the same time is trying to buy at the lowest prices possible. Every time I put in a top buy order, someone came in immediately with a higher bid. This went on for a period of days. I had to plough into the sell wall to get all the HBNs I wanted. The price went up and the buy wall followed. Perhaps somebody knows something?

Cryptsy inhouse vs Cryptsy Chat conception? If you are right that HoboNickels is a Cryptsy inhouse developed coin, then that would tend to bolster my confidence, in that it was developed by professionals who know how coins work and have all the experience and resources at the disposal of a professional organisation. Regardless of whether it was a Cryptsy inhouse coin, or developed by enthusiastic amatuers simply using the Cryptsy Chat facility to communicate with the intention of creating a coin in reverence to the mysterious 'CryptoHobo', there can be little doubt that HoboNickels is an innovative, well-established, well-developed and well-maintained cryptocoin.

Instamining? I have no fundamental problem with a coin being 'instamined' by its creator, or creators. Instamining is mining during the immediate period when a coin is released and the difficulty in harvesting coins is very low. I think it 'fair' that the creator receives an abundant, fair share. It helps cover the cost of creating and issuing the coin. It gives the creator useful resources and an interest in ongoing maintenance and development. In the fiat world it is called seignorage. Neither do I have a problem with 'instabuying' by savvy investors who also have a genuine interest in the coin.

I'm going to rise to your bait and list what I consider to be some of HBN's selling points:

  • well-established, and is based on well-developed coding;
  • innovative e.g. the first coin with multi-wallet functionality;
  • enthusiastic, knowledgeable, responsive and vigilant developers;
  • accountability. The lead developer has a face!;
  • HoboNickels has a backstory. Depth. Semiotics: symbolising freight trains, an alternative lifestyle, the real-world hobo nickel - a physical coin transformed into something of greater value as an alternative medium of exchange etc. With an Android wallet this imagery would be reinforced;
  • HBN does exactly what it says on the tin. It focuses on its main purpose. It is a well-intentioned, alternative form of currency. It does not diffuse its energy by pretending to be a cure for all the World's ills;
  • high POS rate of interest, although the difficulty is increasing (some would see that as a good thing);
  • advanced coin control;
  • current price stability within a predictable range of variation, although I do think that there is an imminent price rise waiting in the wings; and
  • security e.g. the ability for the new wallet to internally combine amounts is not only convenient, but also improves the security of the network.

I'm sure that others could add more.

But then, Hippie Tech ... you knew all that already, ... didn't you?  Wink
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November 04, 2014, 05:12:51 PM
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I think you're not doing enough to emphasize HBN's selling points. Wink

Such as.. this is an inhouse, instamined, crapcoin, dreamt up by a Cryptsy admin (Horus) who impersonated the hobo (jdtmp4) that got this pile of shit rolling.


hahahahaa, that's like saying to a supreme court judge, "so what you are a famous judge in the highest court in the land, your great grand father was a slave."  

That was a long time ago and qualifies to be called 'history', this is a new day, present leadership is the ONLY true leader the CURRENT community
knows and are very happy with.  

How old are you anyway, like 800?

Armis: I like your resonse to Hippie Tech. It is measured and puts the whole thing into a nutshell.

To Hippie Tech:

I'm not sure whether your question was to me, or through me.  I take it that your post was made in good humour, although I do detect a certain element mischief. Armis has responded to you with equal good humour and has given you what seems to be a good reply.

Nevertheless, I found your post interesting. If anything it strengthened the degree of my trust in HoboNickels, which was quite high to begin with. I quickly read through some of your posts elsewhere. Am I right in assuming that Cryptsy won't be at the top of your Christmas card list this year? One thing that I like about Cryptsy is that, in Paul Vernon, it has the name of someone who is tangible and exists. A face. Someone who is accountable. Someone who attends and speaks at cryptocoin conferences. Someone who obviously believes in what he is doing. Someone who is pushing the boundaries.

The HBN price went down slightly shortly after you posted, so I decided that it might be a good time to buy. I found it very difficult because HBN currently has an aggressive buy wall, which at the same time is trying to buy at the lowest prices possible. Every time I put in a top buy order, someone came in immediately with a higher bid. This went on for a period of days. I had to plough into the sell wall to get all the HBNs I wanted. The price went up and the buy wall followed. Perhaps somebody knows something?

Cryptsy inhouse vs Cryptsy Chat conception? If you are right that HoboNickels is a Cryptsy inhouse developed coin, then that would tend to bolster my confidence, in that it was developed by professionals who know how coins work and have all the experience and resources at the disposal of a professional organisation. Regardless of whether it was a Cryptsy inhouse coin, or developed by enthusiastic amatuers simply using the Cryptsy Chat facility to communicate with the intention of creating a coin in reverence to the mysterious 'CryptoHobo', there can be little doubt that HoboNickels is an innovative, well-established, well-developed and well-maintained cryptocoin.

Instamining? I have no fundamental problem with a coin being 'instamined' by its creator, or creators. Instamining is mining during the immediate period when a coin is released and the difficulty in harvesting coins is very low. I think it 'fair' that the creator receives an abundant, fair share. It helps cover the cost of creating and issuing the coin. It gives the creator useful resources and an interest in ongoing maintenance and development. In the fiat world it is called seignorage. Neither do I have a problem with 'instabuying' by savvy investors who also have a genuine interest in the coin.

I'm going to rise to your bait and list what I consider to be some of HBN's selling points:

  • well-established, and is based on well-developed coding;
  • innovative e.g. the first coin with multi-wallet functionality;
  • enthusiastic, knowledgeable, responsive and vigilant developers;
  • accountability. The lead developer has a face!;
  • HoboNickels has a backstory. Depth. Semiotics: symbolising freight trains, an alternative lifestyle, the real-world hobo nickel - a physical coin transformed into something of greater value as an alternative medium of exchange etc. With an Android wallet this imagery would be reinforced;
  • HBN does exactly what it says on the tin. It focuses on its main purpose. It is a well-intentioned, alternative form of currency. It does not diffuse its energy by pretending to be a cure for all the World's ills;
  • high POS rate of interest, although the difficulty is increasing (some would see that as a good thing);
  • advanced coin control;
  • current price stability within a predictable range of variation, although I do think that there is an imminent price rise waiting in the wings; and
  • security e.g. the ability for the new wallet to internally combine ammounts is not only convenient, but also improves the security of the network.

I'm sure that others could add more.

But then, Hippie Tech ... you knew all that already, ... didn't you?  Wink


LOL i think this was:

"BumPay"

we came up with an idea for a viral App what it done was track your favorite homeless person, how it woudl work is by setting up little solar nodes.

the homeless guy would create a profile and claim a geographic location, then update his like bum blog etc.

people could contribute to their favorite bum with "Bumpay" , then there would be featured bums and like Bum of the month.

ultimately though it would need to have a fairly good verification system what with he USSA heading towards the hard end of Oligarchy if it was shown to be profitable you would find "fake bums" popping up on every street corner.

but this could be viable with a VeriBum system in which users of the Bumpay app (tm) could go and walk to the location and physically verify that the person was:

1. Present and
2. a Bum.

(there could be a number of different scores) like:

A. pungent burnt smell
B. Sick looking
C. Dog with 3 legs in basket.
D. scabs or obvious disease

with this done then they just Bum-rate the Bum and that update goes on the Bum's profile .

its a complete Bum social service and payment system, obviously each bum can update a Bumpic profile Pic in which users can keep track of their plight and endeavors.

the heading could be something like:

being a Bum has never been so attractive !

"as a Bum in 2014 i need to make sure my eyeballs are their whitest. yellowest"

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