Playing chess online for money/bitcoins is illegal?

[BitCoinNutJob]

how can anyone play chess online for money surely you can just use computers to play for you so its just who has the best computer player. 

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[BBmmBB]

I also found on Yahoo answers a question where the person said he made over $1000 on PlayE4 chess but couldn't withdraw the money because playing chess for money is illegal in Washington state.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090210183008AADK6Dy
 

Your right. The only solution is change residence of your location to allowed State and then request the withdraw

Can you point to which Washington law disallows playing skilled games for money? As well as point to which law in those states that disallow playing skilled games for money. I tried searching but couldn't find anything.

The host could take some steps if they were inclined to do more in Washington State.

Provided "bitcoins" are determined to be "merchandise" and not "money"
There is a process for being authorized in Washington State to host "Amusement Games" provided it is hosted for some social good (the hoster has to have some charitable purpose):

The full law for Washington State is here:
[Suspicious link removed]gc.wa.gov/rules/rules_manual_1211.pdf

The relevant part is here:

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RCW 9.46.0201
"Amusement game."

"Amusement game," as used in this chapter, means a game played for entertainment in which:

     (1) The contestant actively participates;

     (2) The outcome depends in a material degree upon the skill of the contestant;

     (3) Only merchandise prizes are awarded;

     (4) The outcome is not in the control of the operator;

     (5) The wagers are placed, the winners are determined, and a distribution of prizes or property is made in the presence of all persons placing wagers at such game; and

     (6) Said game is conducted or operated by any agricultural fair, person, association, or organization in such manner and at such locations as may be authorized by rules and regulations adopted by the commission pursuant to this chapter as now or hereafter amended.

     Cake walks as commonly known and fish ponds as commonly known shall be treated as amusement games for all purposes under this chapter.


[1987 c 4 § 2. Formerly RCW 9.46.020(1), part.]

bitcoin cakewalk! *nice

[NewLiberty]

I also found on Yahoo answers a question where the person said he made over $1000 on PlayE4 chess but couldn't withdraw the money because playing chess for money is illegal in Washington state.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090210183008AADK6Dy
 

Your right. The only solution is change residence of your location to allowed State and then request the withdraw

Can you point to which Washington law disallows playing skilled games for money? As well as point to which law in those states that disallow playing skilled games for money. I tried searching but couldn't find anything.

The host could take some steps if they were inclined to do more in Washington State.

Provided "bitcoins" are determined to be "merchandise" and not "money"
There is a process for being authorized in Washington State to host "Amusement Games" provided it is hosted for some social good (the hoster has to have some charitable purpose):

The full law for Washington State is here:
[Suspicious link removed]gc.wa.gov/rules/rules_manual_1211.pdf

The relevant part is here:

=========================
RCW 9.46.0201
"Amusement game."

"Amusement game," as used in this chapter, means a game played for entertainment in which:

     (1) The contestant actively participates;

     (2) The outcome depends in a material degree upon the skill of the contestant;

     (3) Only merchandise prizes are awarded;

     (4) The outcome is not in the control of the operator;

     (5) The wagers are placed, the winners are determined, and a distribution of prizes or property is made in the presence of all persons placing wagers at such game; and

     (6) Said game is conducted or operated by any agricultural fair, person, association, or organization in such manner and at such locations as may be authorized by rules and regulations adopted by the commission pursuant to this chapter as now or hereafter amended.

     Cake walks as commonly known and fish ponds as commonly known shall be treated as amusement games for all purposes under this chapter.


[1987 c 4 § 2. Formerly RCW 9.46.020(1), part.]

bitcoin cakewalk! *nice

Yes, law is so weird and full of old stuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cakewalk_(carnival_game)

Who's up for a Bitcoin Cake Walk?

[BBmmBB]

I also found on Yahoo answers a question where the person said he made over $1000 on PlayE4 chess but couldn't withdraw the money because playing chess for money is illegal in Washington state.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090210183008AADK6Dy
 

Your right. The only solution is change residence of your location to allowed State and then request the withdraw

Can you point to which Washington law disallows playing skilled games for money? As well as point to which law in those states that disallow playing skilled games for money. I tried searching but couldn't find anything.

The host could take some steps if they were inclined to do more in Washington State.

Provided "bitcoins" are determined to be "merchandise" and not "money"
There is a process for being authorized in Washington State to host "Amusement Games" provided it is hosted for some social good (the hoster has to have some charitable purpose):

The full law for Washington State is here:
[Suspicious link removed]gc.wa.gov/rules/rules_manual_1211.pdf

The relevant part is here:

=========================
RCW 9.46.0201
"Amusement game."

"Amusement game," as used in this chapter, means a game played for entertainment in which:

     (1) The contestant actively participates;

     (2) The outcome depends in a material degree upon the skill of the contestant;

     (3) Only merchandise prizes are awarded;

     (4) The outcome is not in the control of the operator;

     (5) The wagers are placed, the winners are determined, and a distribution of prizes or property is made in the presence of all persons placing wagers at such game; and

     (6) Said game is conducted or operated by any agricultural fair, person, association, or organization in such manner and at such locations as may be authorized by rules and regulations adopted by the commission pursuant to this chapter as now or hereafter amended.

     Cake walks as commonly known and fish ponds as commonly known shall be treated as amusement games for all purposes under this chapter.


[1987 c 4 § 2. Formerly RCW 9.46.020(1), part.]

bitcoin cakewalk! *nice

Yes, law is so weird and full of old stuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cakewalk_(carnival_game)

Who's up for a Bitcoin Cake Walk?

NEXT SATOSHI SQUARE ===> IT'S ON FOOL!!!    LOL

[spazzdla]

You are a debt slave this means anytime you spend money and do not pay tax it is HIGHLY Illegal.

Now remeber just because it is Illegal does not mean it is "evil".

[spazzdla]

how can anyone play chess online for money surely you can just use computers to play for you so its just who has the best computer player. 

This is a good point.

[BBmmBB]

~this ain't no cake walk!!! 

[ChessMillionaires]

IS there any place to play chess betting Bitcoins? If so, whoever can beat crazy bishop can probably make a lot of money. Using that to choose your moves seems like something every Bitcoiner would do.

More likely you'd have to beat Rybka, Fritz, or whatever software your opponent is using to play against you.

We're going to solve this problem and revolutionize the chess  game online for money. Check this out http://chessmillionaires.com and subscribe if you're interested. Cheers

[botany]

IS there any place to play chess betting Bitcoins? If so, whoever can beat crazy bishop can probably make a lot of money. Using that to choose your moves seems like something every Bitcoiner would do.

More likely you'd have to beat Rybka, Fritz, or whatever software your opponent is using to play against you.

We're going to solve this problem and revolutionize the chess  game online for money. Check this out http://chessmillionaires.com and subscribe if you're interested. Cheers

This has been a problem for more than 3+ years. I don't see how you can remove the problem of bots/engines in online chess.
If you do manage to do it, it would be revolutionary.

[kolloh]

IS there any place to play chess betting Bitcoins? If so, whoever can beat crazy bishop can probably make a lot of money. Using that to choose your moves seems like something every Bitcoiner would do.

More likely you'd have to beat Rybka, Fritz, or whatever software your opponent is using to play against you.

We're going to solve this problem and revolutionize the chess  game online for money. Check this out http://chessmillionaires.com and subscribe if you're interested. Cheers

This has been a problem for more than 3+ years. I don't see how you can remove the problem of bots/engines in online chess.
If you do manage to do it, it would be revolutionary.

Yeah, smart bots will always win at chess and therefore betting with chess online isn't really a good idea. I'm not sure there is any good way to verify you aren't playing with a bot or someone using a bot to pick their moves. At least when playing a game like poker, your cards are hidden so bots can't always analyze the best move as they can in chess.

[faithupgrade]

Chess associations around the world united to safe guard the reputation of Chess, and not to be linked as a gambling game. I am also a Chess player, and I dont want to participate with Chess gambling activities.