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March 04, 2018, 02:17:08 AM
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Wait and fucking watch, you braindead scumbag. I will make 21,000,000 BTC within the next 24 hours.

You sound unhappy. Maybe you should take a break from gambling.

No. I will win all the bitcoins in existence. Even satoshi's coins. You will ALL SEE

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March 04, 2018, 03:12:52 AM
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So, as you ready to take RGBKey up on his offer of an independent audit?

Jeez... you don't get it do you? Auditing means giving the script for free. Not interested.

Keeping focus on the top-line and bottom-line issue:  No, an audit does not mean “giving the script for free”.

Multi-billion-dollar software companies entrust their proprietary source code to independent auditors.  Do you really think your precious script is more valuable than that?

Now, I repeat:  Alia, you yourself made this an issue:

Like I said, many, many times... not everything has to be 100% math based. My aim is to make profit for people, and I am doing it. That is my end goal. Not to fit your stupid equations (which are not even relevant since you don't know the intricacies of how my script works)

If your ultimate answer is that your critics lack sufficient knowledge to judge your script because they haven’t seen it, then it is incumbent on you to grant such knowledge.

You can’t have your cake and eat it, too, by claiming that secret knowledge overrides the known laws of mathematics, refusing to let anybody else examine it, and then claiming to “prove” that your script works based on statistically, scientifically invalid experimentation performed in an unverifiable manner.

Really, this secret knowledge is beginning to take on a quasi-mystical edge.


Wait and fucking watch, you braindead scumbag. I will make 21,000,000 BTC within the next 24 hours.

You sound unhappy. Maybe you should take a break from gambling.

No. I will win all the bitcoins in existence. Even satoshi's coins. You will ALL SEE

The precise amount of total Bitcoin which will ever exist is 20,999,999.9769 BTC, the final satoshi of which will be mined with block 6,929,999.  Thus, that must be some magical script you’ve got if you will win 21,000,000 BTC within the next 24 hours, including Satoshi’s coins.  It involves time travel, and also cryptographic breakage of all private keys required to release all UTXOs, including those controlled by burn addresses.  Magic!

That said, I agree with suchmoon.  And I am leaning back toward the theory that you sincerely believe in, and are obsessed with your script.  Take a break.  Please.


The aim of this thread is to prove everyone wrong and thus salvaging my reputation

You will not be able to prove everyone else wrong, because you are wrong and they are right.  You would do much better for your reputation if you were to admit you’re wrong, and learn something.  I admit when I’m wrong—which is exceedingly rare, but it happens.

The aim of the script is to make profit for investors and myself. I have not done mathematical audits and I know for a fact the script will fail if you run it for too long. But in the short term is is very profitable. Plain and simple

Wait.  I thought you weren’t selling it now—right?

Please do realize, nobody here is personally concerned with proving you wrong.  The motive of people arguing with you in this thread is to make sure that nobody else loses money by buying or investing in a mathematical impossibility.  If you were claiming something wacky which could not foreseeably cost others money (as Jude Austin with his alleged address collision), then I would have shrugged and gone away by about midway through page 2 of this thread.  For my part, I don’t have time for more than casual debunking of such things.


Also, all of my major investors have withdrawn from the script program and I'm in a really bad state financially. I'm requesting those who made profit from my script to donate a portion of the profit to me. @nullius you made 0.01 btc profit from me, so sending a little piece back in my time of need would be really appreciated. If you don't want to do it that is okay too

I’ve already offered to give the equivalent amount (in local fiat0) to a dear friend of mine IRL who was abandoned by her husband, and has struggled with multiple jobs to feed her young children while trying to somehow also take care of them.  Much though I’ve been able to console her loneliness some nights, I am in no financial position to really help her the way she really needs it—even if she’d let me.  I’ve been waiting to hear back.  She’s busy; and from prior experience trying to slip her enough cash for some groceries, I know that she is prickly about being treated as if a charity case.  If she refuses it, then I will probably donate it to the GPG project or similar.  I don’t want to profit from this affair.


0. Nobody IRL knows that I do Bitcoin.


Also, I did not want to discuss the details of our transaction; but since you raise it:

You told me that you initially lost all my money.  You said you covered it with your own funds, then recovered, won, and split the profit with me.  Beforehand, when you told me that you would not set a stop-loss as I requested, you said (of your own initiative) that you would instead insure my funds; but you did not say that insurance included continued gambling with a split of profits.

FWIW / at face value:

Quote from: Alia
The story is, I lost your initial deposit, so I loaded 0.1 BTC of my own to make it back. Now I'm 0.2 BTC in the green, withdrew a bit of profit, and playing with house money, so thank you xD

Code:
gpg: Signature made Fri Feb 23 06:35:49 2018 UTC
gpg:                using RSA key 857D1532A793AAAA0247DE92CED5586964477E72
gpg: Good signature from "Alia <...>"
Primary key fingerprint: 857D 1532 A793 AAAA 0247  DE92 CED5 5869 6447 7E72

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That said, I agree with suchmoon.  And I am leaning back toward the theory that you sincerely believe in, and are obsessed with your script.  Take a break.  Please.

That is bullshit.  You really could not believe that there is any level of sincerity left in alia about this financial poverty story.. a script that supposedly can make you rich, but you are employing such script while being in a state of desperation.  S/he/it already shown enough sophistication in thread posts and does not believe that crap.   

S/he/it is only blowing smoke about some fictional script, and if s/he/it gambles using such supposedly existing script, then s/he/it deserves to lose whatever remaining finances that s/he/it is betting on these kinds of nonsensical plays.

We are getting past any kind of empathy stage and into the absurd, no?  Sure, some of the alia claims are funny, but you really cannot be taking any of them seriously, at this point, right?

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March 04, 2018, 03:34:48 AM
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Lmao I was clearly being sarcasting about the 21m btc thing.

Fine, if nullius donates exactly 0.00673625 of the profit that I gave him to 3HcEB6bi4TFPdvk31Pwz77DwAzfAZz2fMn (the Pirate Bay donation address) then I'll state that I am a loon, I was wrong and stupid to thing I had a profitable script, and I will admit defeat to all my haters.

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Edit:  Fix typo (s/to/by/); post archived:
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Lmao I was clearly being sarcasting about the 21m btc thing.

Fine, if nullius donates exactly 0.00673625 of the profit that I gave him to 3HcEB6bi4TFPdvk31Pwz77DwAzfAZz2fMn (the Pirate Bay donation address) then I'll state that I am a loon, I was wrong and stupid to thing I had a profitable script, and I will admit defeat to all my haters.

Done.  (Before I started writing this post.)  And if my friend takes me up on my offer, then this is money out of my pocket.

I’m not you, Alia.

txid:
b1f07dc051f2f34c2c2c0bb458e5a865d1b6e7c3c888fda8a0740200682c2d76

LockTime: Block 511907

Confirmed: Block 511908

I far overpaid the fee in hope of a fast confirmation in hopes that without undue delay, I could post this as confirmed.

The txids of our transactions were disclosed by me before, so people can trace this throught the blockchain:

Per my standard procedure, I requested that all info (addresses, amounts, etc.) be handled with PGP encryption.  I want at least one tiny shred of blockchain privacy.  However, I think after this, I will need to thoroughly anonymize this coin anyway.  (And if you wonder where it came from:  Thorough anonymization.  Knock yourself out looking.)

txid for 0.01101346 BTC sent nullius → alia:
554962af97ea469ade363e4f6e402de37e9270a242e81b45c5dfa7b21e8fcc0b

txid for 0.021 BTC (exactly) received alia → nullius:
44e3aeed8ba068f52e048d76776205bcee05902af7db1eecbd697e7ac819c1ec

I took about a zillion archives from that thread, so that may already be up on archive.org somewhere; and I will promptly archive this.  Also, I request that somebody please quote me here.

The only reason why I let you pick the charity was that I had already intended to donate to TPB after LoyceV pointed out their “BCH: Bcash. LOL” stance.  I only didn’t do it before, because I really don’t have the money to spare.

This thread is self-moderated, because it seems sure to be a troll magnet.
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That said, I agree with suchmoon.  And I am leaning back toward the theory that you sincerely believe in, and are obsessed with your script.  Take a break.  Please.

That is bullshit.  You really could not believe that there is any level of sincerity left in alia about this financial poverty story.. a script that supposedly can make you rich, but you are employing such script while being in a state of desperation.  S/he/it already shown enough sophistication in thread posts and does not believe that crap.  

S/he/it is only blowing smoke about some fictional script, and if s/he/it gambles using such supposedly existing script, then s/he/it deserves to lose whatever remaining finances that s/he/it is betting on these kinds of nonsensical plays.

We are getting past any kind of empathy stage and into the absurd, no?  Sure, some of the alia claims are funny, but you really cannot be taking any of them seriously, at this point, right?

Empathy?  I’m on record as being so strongly in principle against empathy [see midway through post] that I’ve been accused of psychopathy.  I replied by dropping Nietzsche on all the bleeding hearts.  You may rest assured that I am not motivated by “empathy” for Alia.

(I also have another polemic in my drafts box against empathy.  Too much forum drama.  Too much distraction.)



Now, again:  How about that audit?

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March 04, 2018, 04:35:48 AM
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Lmao I was clearly being sarcasting about the 21m btc thing.

Fine, if nullius donates exactly 0.00673625 of the profit that I gave him to 3HcEB6bi4TFPdvk31Pwz77DwAzfAZz2fMn (the Pirate Bay donation address) then I'll state that I am a loon, I was wrong and stupid to thing I had a profitable script, and I will admit defeat to all my haters.

Done.  (Before I started writing this post.)  And if my friend takes me up on my offer, then this is money out of my pocket.

I’m not you, Alia.

txid:
b1f07dc051f2f34c2c2c0bb458e5a865d1b6e7c3c888fda8a0740200682c2d76

LockTime: Block 511907

Confirmed: Block 511908

I far overpaid the fee in hope of a fast confirmation in hopes that without undue delay, I could post this as confirmed.

The txids of our transactions were disclosed to me before, so people can trace this throught the blockchain:

Per my standard procedure, I requested that all info (addresses, amounts, etc.) be handled with PGP encryption.  I want at least one tiny shred of blockchain privacy.  However, I think after this, I will need to thoroughly anonymize this coin anyway.  (And if you wonder where it came from:  Thorough anonymization.  Knock yourself out looking.)

txid for 0.01101346 BTC sent nullius → alia:
554962af97ea469ade363e4f6e402de37e9270a242e81b45c5dfa7b21e8fcc0b

txid for 0.021 BTC (exactly) received alia → nullius:
44e3aeed8ba068f52e048d76776205bcee05902af7db1eecbd697e7ac819c1ec

I took about a zillion archives from that thread, so that may already be up on archive.org somewhere; and I will promptly archive this.  Also, I request that somebody please quote me here.

The only reason why I let you pick the charity was that I had already intended to donate to TPB after LoyceV pointed out their “BCH: Bcash. LOL” stance.  I only didn’t do it before, because I really don’t have the money to spare.

This thread is self-moderated, because it seems sure to be a troll magnet.
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That said, I agree with suchmoon.  And I am leaning back toward the theory that you sincerely believe in, and are obsessed with your script.  Take a break.  Please.

That is bullshit.  You really could not believe that there is any level of sincerity left in alia about this financial poverty story.. a script that supposedly can make you rich, but you are employing such script while being in a state of desperation.  S/he/it already shown enough sophistication in thread posts and does not believe that crap.   

S/he/it is only blowing smoke about some fictional script, and if s/he/it gambles using such supposedly existing script, then s/he/it deserves to lose whatever remaining finances that s/he/it is betting on these kinds of nonsensical plays.

We are getting past any kind of empathy stage and into the absurd, no?  Sure, some of the alia claims are funny, but you really cannot be taking any of them seriously, at this point, right?

Empathy?  I’m on record as being so strongly in principle against empathy [see midway through post] that I’ve been accused of psychopathy.  I replied by dropping Nietzsche on all the bleeding hearts.  You may rest assured that I am not motivated by “empathy” for Alia.

(I also have another polemic in my drafts box against empathy.  Too much forum drama.  Too much distraction.)



Now, again:  How about that audit?

Excellent. Thank you!

I hereby state that I am a dumbass, I was wrong about the script. It may have made money but I'm sure that was just dumb luck. I shall exit this thread and this account with my head bowed down in shame! Well, at least I could help tpb

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Quote from: Alia
The story is, I lost your initial deposit, so I loaded 0.1 BTC of my own to make it back. Now I'm 0.2 BTC in the green, withdrew a bit of profit, and playing with house money, so thank you xD

Code:
gpg: Signature made Fri Feb 23 06:35:49 2018 UTC
gpg:                using RSA key 857D1532A793AAAA0247DE92CED5586964477E72
gpg: Good signature from "Alia <...>"
Primary key fingerprint: 857D 1532 A793 AAAA 0247  DE92 CED5 5869 6447 7E72
This is exactly what I meant here:
This is how (almost) all gamblers turn their profit into a loss, and then start "chasing losses", which is a great way to lose more money. Do you really think casinos would still exist if if would be possible to consistently beat them?
The long list of positive returns seemed very unlikely to happen, and this makes it a lot more likely.
What alia is doing is basically Martingale: if you lose, you do the same with a much higher bankroll. You can keep doing that, until you run out of bankroll.

I was wrong about the script. It may have made money but I'm sure that was just dumb luck. I shall exit this thread and this account with my head bowed down in shame! Well, at least I could help tpb
I'm not sure if it's sarcasm or you really mean it, but I'm confident it's the right decision. I've seen many gamblers bust large amounts of money thinking they're invincible.

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I was wrong about the script. It may have made money but I'm sure that was just dumb luck. I shall exit this thread and this account with my head bowed down in shame! Well, at least I could help tpb
I'm not sure if it's sarcasm or you really mean it, but I'm confident it's the right decision. I've seen many gamblers bust large amounts of money thinking they're invincible.
I don't think she was sarcastic.
Something everyone said happened:


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Quote from: Alia
The story is, I lost your initial deposit, so I loaded 0.1 BTC of my own to make it back. Now I'm 0.2 BTC in the green, withdrew a bit of profit, and playing with house money, so thank you xD

Code:
gpg: Signature made Fri Feb 23 06:35:49 2018 UTC
gpg:                using RSA key 857D1532A793AAAA0247DE92CED5586964477E72
gpg: Good signature from "Alia <...>"
Primary key fingerprint: 857D 1532 A793 AAAA 0247  DE92 CED5 5869 6447 7E72
This is exactly what I meant here:
This is how (almost) all gamblers turn their profit into a loss, and then start "chasing losses", which is a great way to lose more money. Do you really think casinos would still exist if if would be possible to consistently beat them?
The long list of positive returns seemed very unlikely to happen, and this makes it a lot more likely.
What alia is doing is basically Martingale: if you lose, you do the same with a much higher bankroll. You can keep doing that, until you run out of bankroll.

I was wrong about the script. It may have made money but I'm sure that was just dumb luck. I shall exit this thread and this account with my head bowed down in shame! Well, at least I could help tpb
I'm not sure if it's sarcasm or you really mean it, but I'm confident it's the right decision. I've seen many gamblers bust large amounts of money thinking they're invincible.

I don't mean it, but I'm sure I will some day. i'm just deluded right now. Only reason I said that was because I promised I would. Props to nully for the donation

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I was wrong about the script. It may have made money but I'm sure that was just dumb luck. I shall exit this thread and this account with my head bowed down in shame! Well, at least I could help tpb
I'm not sure if it's sarcasm or you really mean it, but I'm confident it's the right decision. I've seen many gamblers bust large amounts of money thinking they're invincible.
I don't think she was sarcastic.
Something everyone said happened:



Was that before or after she asked nullius to donate to TPB? Not that it matters much though.

Edit: it looks like alia requested the donation and 10 minutes later started betting; nullius' post was made after alia's losing streak. Not quite a scam but sneaky as shit.

This degen thing explains some aspects of alia's increasingly desperate scam attempts and the belligerent rants after getting caught.

Still at it:



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Was that before or after she asked nullius to donate to TPB? Not that it matters much though.

Was that a question about the mystical judgment of the cosmos, as expressed through random events?  I am a certified cult leader; thus, I am qualified to speak on such matters.

This degen thing explains some aspects of alia's increasingly desperate scam attempts and the belligerent rants after getting caught.

Alia, you have told me privately of some studies in psychology.  Therefrom, you should realize that you are not immune to the vagaries of human nature; and if you’re smart enough to master the difficult task of truly objective introspection, then you will realize that this is a textbook example of a gambler obsessed with discovering a secret way to win.

You’re far from the first or the last; and the result is always the same:

This is exactly what I meant here:
This is how (almost) all gamblers turn their profit into a loss, and then start "chasing losses", which is a great way to lose more money. Do you really think casinos would still exist if if would be possible to consistently beat them?
The long list of positive returns seemed very unlikely to happen, and this makes it a lot more likely.
What alia is doing is basically Martingale: if you lose, you do the same with a much higher bankroll. You can keep doing that, until you run out of bankroll.

[...]

I've seen many gamblers bust large amounts of money thinking they're invincible.

Whereupon I think this is a good step in the right direction:

I was wrong about the script. It may have made money but I'm sure that was just dumb luck. I shall exit this thread and this account with my head bowed down in shame! Well, at least I could help tpb
I'm not sure if it's sarcasm or you really mean it, but I'm confident it's the right decision. I've seen many gamblers bust large amounts of money thinking they're invincible.

I don't mean it, but I'm sure I will some day. i'm just deluded right now. Only reason I said that was because I promised I would. Props to nully for the donation

Whereas this is not—and it is inevitable over the course of time:

Still at it:



Edit: busted at 1x:



OUCH!  No, I’m not enjoying that.  Get out now!

I think you have sufficient intelligence to understand what is happening here, if only you will be sufficiently objective in your examination of your own actions.  I do realize that true objectivity toward oneself, objectivity from within, is a rare ability and impossible for most people (as well as being almost a tautological contradiction).  But you have been repeatedly shown, by people who do not hate you personally, that you are indeed “deluded” (at least in the colloquial sense).  Now, those charts really drive home the point.

I don't mean it, but I'm sure I will some day. i'm just deluded right now. Only reason I said that was because I promised I would. Props to nully for the donation

Props to you for a tentative indication that you might actually admit you’re wrong here.  Admit it first to yourself—that’s oftentimes the hardest part.  Yes, I’m also sure you “will some day”.  But it would be better now—rather than someday after you’ve irreparably ruined yourself financially and in other ways, such as with reputational (and worse) consequences somewhere other than an Internet forum.  You could totally wreck yourself with this stuff, IRL, all around.  And you know it.

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March 04, 2018, 02:42:28 PM
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P.S., on a personal note:

One reason why I’m fascinated with recursive compressor cases is that I myself once invented a lossless recursive compressor which would work on any data, even random data.

I was dumbfounded at my own brilliance!  I knew that what I had just done was mathematically impossible.

Since I knew that it was mathematically impossible, I painstakingly double-checked myself before telling anyone else.  Of course, I found that I had made a severe error in logic.  My invention would not work, could not be made to work, would never work.  It was actually quite stupid, albeit in a seductive “gotcha” way similar to those comedic paradoxical “proofs” that 1=2.

Oops.  So much for my dreams of backing up the entire Internet on a 5.25" floppy.  There goes my Fields Medal.  I chucked it into /dev/null, and life went on.  (I also resolved to triple-check any other brilliant ideas I conceived late at night, while more than slightly drunk.)

For the record, I have also invented a perpetual motion machine.  But for that, I have the excuse that it happened when I was about four years old.

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March 04, 2018, 02:49:56 PM
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Was that before or after she asked nullius to donate to TPB? Not that it matters much though.

Was that a question about the mystical judgment of the cosmos, as expressed through random events?  I am a certified cult leader; thus, I am qualified to speak on such matters.

See my edit:

Edit: it looks like alia requested the donation and 10 minutes later started betting; nullius' post was made after alia's losing streak. Not quite a scam but sneaky as shit.

It looks like by the time you sent the donation alia might have already lost more than 9 out of 10 thus proving the script doesn't work.

This is the losing streak around that time:

https://www.bustabit.com/game/137112
https://www.bustabit.com/game/137114
https://www.bustabit.com/game/137115
https://www.bustabit.com/game/137116
https://www.bustabit.com/game/137129

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Whoa your trust though OP, how come you gained so much?
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Well, I'm sure it's pretty obvious that I stopped using the script after nully made the donation... I was just making random yolo bets from the faucet.

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Well, I'm sure it's pretty obvious that I stopped using the script after nully made the donation... I was just making random yolo bets from the faucet.

Of course. I mean why would you use a winning script if you can gamble away money that you don't have. Makes perfect sense.

Weren't you supposed to exit this thread and this account?

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March 04, 2018, 03:18:21 PM
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Well, I'm sure it's pretty obvious that I stopped using the script after nully made the donation... I was just making random yolo bets from the faucet.

Of course. I mean why would you use a winning script if you can gamble away money that you don't have. Makes perfect sense.

Weren't you supposed to exit this thread and this account?

Clearly hyperbole. And I'm gambling faucet money like I said 6 times

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March 04, 2018, 07:43:48 PM
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Clearly hyperbole. And I'm gambling faucet money like I said 6 times

If the script really works you should be ready to gamble real money instead of playing with faucets.
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March 04, 2018, 07:53:28 PM
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Back when I was new to the markets and trading I took a look at the various trading bots and such.

They were mostly Forex oriented and they had great past gains. However the gains were usually followed by huge busts thereafter.

Basically they worked good in certain markets but with irrational markets they didn't work at all.

So you could start with $1000 and make $5000 and then lose everything.

This thread kind of reminds me of those bots. People were trying to make it work, but couldn't.

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