Official Thread: AMT

[Phinnaeus Gage]

While the pictures aren't very focused, I appreciate some sort of update.

Unfortunately I think by the time these things get out the door, they will be vaporware. ISAWHIM is trying to stay positive about mining alternative coins with the miner, but for most I doubt they will see a return.

We still need users to receive them and run them successfully. We aren't out of the woods yet.

And Bulgaria is a very nice country and very beautiful country.  we enjoyed our time there, we respect the Bulgarian people and think in the technical fields, there are some absolutely brilliant individuals that are not recognized for their greatness. The only downside in your nation, and it has always been that way, is that Bulgarians do not confirm or unit as one, they don't work together well. They are brilliant, but must do everything alone if its possible.

Their lack of unification has caused them to suffer through years of bad political choices which led to a century enslavement, communism and now, well you watch the news.  Their culture almost teaches the average Bulgarian person -  to not trust anyone so quick. - and even when you've known him for years, still think twice about trusting him.

But more over, why Bulgaria wins this round. It would be the social life in Bulgaria, how people relax, sit on a table for 5 hours, drink and eat, the whole European thing, that's where they got it right.

Oh and the black sea. Anywhere along the bulgarian black sea coast is worth visiting. Sozopol/Nessebur.. its a nice one.

AMT_Miners = Joshua Zipkin.

AGAIN WE ARE AMT - THE USERNAME AMT_MINERS IS USUALLY ALYSSA OR JIM, BUT OCCASIONALLY HANNA, EMANUAL , CHRIS OR JENNA MAY WRITE FROM THIS USERNAME AS WELL.  JOSH IS OFTEN TOO DISGUSTED BY THIS THREAD TO EVEN READ IT.

Josh wasn't too disgusted by this thread when he was making bank, now was he?

Go fuck yourself!

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Mr. Opeum2

Your call for the community to come together sounds good but then proclaiming that you are out of here as soon as you get your miner seems a little hypocritical. being from NYC maybe you don't understand the term community. I find a lot of people from the big city feel alone in a crowd.

Also remember, CLennel was once an overeager fanboy much like yourself and AMT turned on him.

nothing personal, just thought I would point out that the community will be here for you in the end if you don't trash the community in the beginning.

Well with the amount of crap being slung around and the unceasing amount of it yea. My goal actually is to start a community that is better moderated. You have a valid point. It is hypocritical of me. BUT when there is ZERO moderation of the community then yea most people including myself will walk away. Gotta pick my battles so to speak. From this particular thread I would have no motivation to stay on it once I got my miners. Point is stick to the topic which is trying to get AMT to post updates while keeping the flamer/trolls away or ignored. that will help this thread get the updates it needs. That is from my understanding the original intent of this thread for updates. Not AMT bashing. There are plenty of other threads and a scam section for that. I like numerous others just want updates. Not ceaseless conspiracies and other things that provide little information on when the miners are arriving.

Probably not a bad idea, like YourPalToots did with the "order" thread. Maybe make an AMT Users  thread for when/if people start getting their miners.

I find it disturbing that so few people (even on other fora) have confirmed getting even the bitfury units. Yeah, I know that people are not under any obligation to do so, but for just about every other mfg/brand that has shipped, there are dozens of people talking about their shiny (or not so shiny) machine. THIS is where my problme lies. The machine they gave me (for which I'm grateful) is obsolete. They should have delivered a boatload of 'em, as the price was decent for what it was and they advertised a lot. Where are the wild machines? I've seen about ten from members here, found ref to maybe ten more using google and other fora.

I would very much like to be wrong on this. I WANT AMT to be a good outfit.

As amt compared them selfs with apple   and they silently admitted most of the work is subcontracted. The only hope for you is they to find right people for the job. Meanwhile time is ticktackingng away. So time will tell if they will found appropriate people at all.
I am starting to wander how they were chosen  to be bitmine partners because:
1. They sold zero coincraft chips
2. They have added Zero to bitmine business in terms of engineering programing or designing terms. Famous AMT engenders are josh and his father probably well known with their engineering skills
3. They have waited long enough to copy bitmine design and despite of bitmine they have not shipped a single nut  
4. While all this happens china borders will flood market with miners ready to mine for 5k almost at chip price. Yeah I know the stolen/legal chip rumors but it will not stop them. Mans this will not stop customers to buy them
5. All the above will drawn their customers and probably amt also. Rio is a fiction
So who cares that reputable US company will be able to make domestic miner delivery in near feature  
Conclusion  .... They a good at Bulgarian psychology and habits, parking tickets and a free stakes
AMT you can make a survey asking the forum members who are most UNsatisfied ASIC customers around the forum
And winner is? BFL or AMT  
All what is left is a good hope and a good will that something gona happen someday

1. WE'VE SOLD MANY COINCRAFT CHIPS TO AMERICAN CUSTOMERS, AND ARE STILL SHIPPING THEM ALL THE TIME. MOSTLY BUSINESSES STARTING TO OR TRYING MAKE MINERS, OR PCB HOUSE THAT ARE MAKING MINERS FOR OTHER CLIENTS. MOST QUANTITIES SOLD ARE IN THE 100-500 RANGE AND NOT LESS.

WE ARE BITMINE'S PARTNER AND THEIR US CHIP DISTRIBUTOR - THIS OUR JOB! YOU CAN BUY THESE CHIPS FROM BITMINE - AMT - AND ZEFIR. WE'RE SURE BOTH BITMINE AND ZEFIR WILL BOTH VERIFY THAT!

2. WE'VE ADDED A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF RESOURCES TO BITMINE, LISTING THEM ONE BY IN THIS THREAD IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS AND NOT APPROPRIATE IN GENERAL.

3. WE HAVE SHIPPED UNITS. WE JUST HAVE NOT SHIPPED YOU A FREE MINER. AND BECAUSE WE DID NOT SHIP YOU A FREE MINER TO REVIEW, YOU SIT ON THIS FORUM AND TALK TRASH ON THREAD. - ITS BASICALLY BLACKMAIL LOSHIA.

4. THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY NO COUNTERFEIT CHIPS IN CHINA, THESE ARE ONLY RUMORS AND THE PEOPLE THAT BUY INTO THEM WILL BE BADLY BURNT.  THE CHINESE DO NOT HAVE WORKING TERRAHASH MINERS - THEY SIMPLY DONT EXIST, THEY ARE ALL LIES LIKE THE SEVERAL OTHER LIES IN THE FORUM IN THE PAST - LIKE PHEONIX TECHNOLOGIES FOR EXAMPLE. IF THE CHINESE PURCHASED CHIPS FROM BITMINE, US OR ZEFIR - MAYBE THEY'VE BUILT A BOARD AND PUT IT INTO A MINER - BUT THAT HAS YET TO BE SEEN.

5. WE ARE ROUNDING UP OTHER FORUM MEMBERS, THEY WILL COME TO OUR BUILD SHOP AND HELP US ASSEMBLE FASTER - THIS WILL ENSURE THAT OUR LEGITIMACY IS FACILITATED IN STONE ON THIS THREAD. NO OTHER MANUFACTURER HAS DONE THIS BECAUSE OF SECURITY REASONS - BUT AGAIN WE'LL TAKE MORE RISKS AND SHOW THIS THREAD AND THIS COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE BUILT, CURRENTLY BUILD, AND ARE NOW USING THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO BUILD - BITCOIN MINERS.

I stand corrected! You're worst than a piece of shit.

[giorgiotheclown]

the problem with amt is the same as bitmine, they are fraudsters!

look at the bitmine thread, the closed and inofficial and you understand whats going on...

incompetent and greedy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Q5ECkaHiM

[sirminesalot]

the problem with amt is the same as bitmine, they are fraudsters!

look at the bitmine thread, the closed and inofficial and you understand whats going on...

incompetent and greedy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Q5ECkaHiM

Well when you have guys here like ISAWHIM that will pay full amount for a miner, get lied to constantly, then consider bending over backwards to ASSEMBLE THE MINERS FOR THEM - some people just can't be helped.

I doubt any of that will pan out, and if it does - no offense ISAWHIM, but you're going to work for a bunch of fraudsters/shoddy business owners. Not sure why you'd want to be a part of that...wait, I know: they have your MONEY.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

the problem with amt is the same as bitmine, they are fraudsters!

look at the bitmine thread, the closed and inofficial and you understand whats going on...

incompetent and greedy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Q5ECkaHiM

Remember that video I linked yesterday and is now down? Tyler Lummis, Josh's friend in the video, is a confirmed Mason: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10101974366854914&set=a.856693806704.2498024.12315152&type=1&theater

Josh and Tyler signed up to the following site at the same time: http://takepin.com/catalog.php?first=22264

I am providing the above to prove that Joshua Zipkin lied when he said there is no Mason connection to AMT, in spite of the fact that the following pic shows his Daddy-O, Harrison Z. Zipkin, on the far left, during some Masonic Circle Jerk.



You want to lie some more, you Bulgarian pieces of shit?

[clenell]

wait... this is at least the second posts AMT has made stating they are going to hire people. they didnt do it last time so what leads me to believe they will do it this time?

AMT... where is my refund?

[MrTeal]

WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF YOU STOPPED THIS CRAP, OTHERWISE PEOPLE MIGHT FIND OUT WHERE YOUR BUSINESS IS LOCATED, AND WHERE YOUR HOME IS LOCATED. AND WE'LL BET THERE ARE SEVERAL PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM THAT WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT INFORMATION BASED ON OTHER THREADS YOU'VE POSTED IN.

YOU SHOULD KNOW BY NOW THAT WE ARE NOT THE AVERAGE AMERICAN POLITICALLY CORRECT COMPANY. YOU SHOULD KNOW AND REALIZE WE HAVE RESOURCES THAT MOST DONT, AND THAT WE GO ABOVE AND BEYOND TO GET THINGS DONE.

That's awesome news! Rather than blathering on their threatening someone who obviously doesn't give a shit, why not use some of those amazing resources that GO ABOVE AND BEYOND TO GET THINGS DONE to maybe knock a couple 1.2TH/s units off this list. Or at least one. Baby steps, you know.

[Syke]

so what should i do? 
Order: #492

Let's play, Shipped or Not Shipped!

ORDER 400 TO 500 HAVE BEEN SHIPPED OUT ALREADY!

Shipped out before 2/21...

Tue 2/25/2014 3:46 AM
Hi Amit,

our entire team is in the manufacturing facility testing and assembling.
Your miner will be shipping anytime now. I will send you the tracking number the moment when I get heads up from the assembly team. It will be any day now.

Many thanks,
Alyssa

Not shipped out by 2/25.

What's your vote? Shipped or Not Shipped?

[MrTeal]

so what should i do? 
Order: #492

Let's play, Shipped or Not Shipped!

ORDER 400 TO 500 HAVE BEEN SHIPPED OUT ALREADY!

Shipped out before 2/21...

Tue 2/25/2014 3:46 AM
Hi Amit,

our entire team is in the manufacturing facility testing and assembling.
Your miner will be shipping anytime now. I will send you the tracking number the moment when I get heads up from the assembly team. It will be any day now.

Many thanks,
Alyssa

Not shipped out by 2/25.

What's your vote? Shipped or Not Shipped?

It's more complicated than your black and white view of the world. Part of the added value AMT brings to the table is that their units bring quantum effects to the macroscopic world. An AMT miner is a superposition of many possible states, include "shipped" and "not shipped".

[Phinnaeus Gage]

"Now, watch what happens when I push the AMT rendering button."

[Casiriahmine]

AMT_miners,

I don't want to play games with you, you talk about helping to ASSEMBLE miners. That is all speculation.

If you wish for proper business market propagation, you need a product.

You have 21 days to get me a PRODUCT.

I don't care what you have to do. I am coming in person again on the week of the 26, 27, 28th of MAR.



I will expect 1 of 2 things:

Option 1: (x2) 1.5TH/s miners (6 slots), since the difficulty has skyrocketed since you advertised. Miner Protection Plan.

Option 2: 12K refund in a check, that I can cash at that day.

[freddyfarnsworth]

"I AM NOW BACK TO WORK ON A SUNDAY, HANDS COVERED IN HEATSINK GREASE"

Messy - Do not touch anything, until you clean up that stuff from your hands... It spreads like... Lactobacillus Bulgaricus !

New paper napkin for each wipe

[loshia]

Mr. Opeum2

Your call for the community to come together sounds good but then proclaiming that you are out of here as soon as you get your miner seems a little hypocritical. being from NYC maybe you don't understand the term community. I find a lot of people from the big city feel alone in a crowd.

Also remember, CLennel was once an overeager fanboy much like yourself and AMT turned on him.

nothing personal, just thought I would point out that the community will be here for you in the end if you don't trash the community in the beginning.

Well with the amount of crap being slung around and the unceasing amount of it yea. My goal actually is to start a community that is better moderated. You have a valid point. It is hypocritical of me. BUT when there is ZERO moderation of the community then yea most people including myself will walk away. Gotta pick my battles so to speak. From this particular thread I would have no motivation to stay on it once I got my miners. Point is stick to the topic which is trying to get AMT to post updates while keeping the flamer/trolls away or ignored. that will help this thread get the updates it needs. That is from my understanding the original intent of this thread for updates. Not AMT bashing. There are plenty of other threads and a scam section for that. I like numerous others just want updates. Not ceaseless conspiracies and other things that provide little information on when the miners are arriving.

Probably not a bad idea, like YourPalToots did with the "order" thread. Maybe make an AMT Users  thread for when/if people start getting their miners.

I find it disturbing that so few people (even on other fora) have confirmed getting even the bitfury units. Yeah, I know that people are not under any obligation to do so, but for just about every other mfg/brand that has shipped, there are dozens of people talking about their shiny (or not so shiny) machine. THIS is where my problme lies. The machine they gave me (for which I'm grateful) is obsolete. They should have delivered a boatload of 'em, as the price was decent for what it was and they advertised a lot. Where are the wild machines? I've seen about ten from members here, found ref to maybe ten more using google and other fora.

I would very much like to be wrong on this. I WANT AMT to be a good outfit.

As amt compared them selfs with apple   and they silently admitted most of the work is subcontracted. The only hope for you is they to find right people for the job. Meanwhile time is ticktackingng away. So time will tell if they will found appropriate people at all.
I am starting to wander how they were chosen  to be bitmine partners because:
1. They sold zero coincraft chips
2. They have added Zero to bitmine business in terms of engineering programing or designing terms. Famous AMT engenders are josh and his father probably well known with their engineering skills
3. They have waited long enough to copy bitmine design and despite of bitmine they have not shipped a single nut  
4. While all this happens china borders will flood market with miners ready to mine for 5k almost at chip price. Yeah I know the stolen/legal chip rumors but it will not stop them. Mans this will not stop customers to buy them
5. All the above will drawn their customers and probably amt also. Rio is a fiction
So who cares that reputable US company will be able to make domestic miner delivery in near feature  
Conclusion  .... They a good at Bulgarian psychology and habits, parking tickets and a free stakes
AMT you can make a survey asking the forum members who are most UNsatisfied ASIC customers around the forum
And winner is? BFL or AMT  
All what is left is a good hope and a good will that something gona happen someday

1. WE'VE SOLD MANY COINCRAFT CHIPS TO AMERICAN CUSTOMERS, AND ARE STILL SHIPPING THEM ALL THE TIME. MOSTLY BUSINESSES STARTING TO OR TRYING MAKE MINERS, OR PCB HOUSE THAT ARE MAKING MINERS FOR OTHER CLIENTS. MOST QUANTITIES SOLD ARE IN THE 100-500 RANGE AND NOT LESS.

WE ARE BITMINE'S PARTNER AND THEIR US CHIP DISTRIBUTOR - THIS OUR JOB! YOU CAN BUY THESE CHIPS FROM BITMINE - AMT - AND ZEFIR. WE'RE SURE BOTH BITMINE AND ZEFIR WILL BOTH VERIFY THAT!

2. WE'VE ADDED A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF RESOURCES TO BITMINE, LISTING THEM ONE BY IN THIS THREAD IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS AND NOT APPROPRIATE IN GENERAL.

3. WE HAVE SHIPPED UNITS. WE JUST HAVE NOT SHIPPED YOU A FREE MINER. AND BECAUSE WE DID NOT SHIP YOU A FREE MINER TO REVIEW, YOU SIT ON THIS FORUM AND TALK TRASH ON THREAD. - ITS BASICALLY BLACKMAIL LOSHIA.

4. THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY NO COUNTERFEIT CHIPS IN CHINA, THESE ARE ONLY RUMORS AND THE PEOPLE THAT BUY INTO THEM WILL BE BADLY BURNT.  THE CHINESE DO NOT HAVE WORKING TERRAHASH MINERS - THEY SIMPLY DONT EXIST, THEY ARE ALL LIES LIKE THE SEVERAL OTHER LIES IN THE FORUM IN THE PAST - LIKE PHEONIX TECHNOLOGIES FOR EXAMPLE. IF THE CHINESE PURCHASED CHIPS FROM BITMINE, US OR ZEFIR - MAYBE THEY'VE BUILT A BOARD AND PUT IT INTO A MINER - BUT THAT HAS YET TO BE SEEN.

5. WE ARE ROUNDING UP OTHER FORUM MEMBERS, THEY WILL COME TO OUR BUILD SHOP AND HELP US ASSEMBLE FASTER - THIS WILL ENSURE THAT OUR LEGITIMACY IS FACILITATED IN STONE ON THIS THREAD. NO OTHER MANUFACTURER HAS DONE THIS BECAUSE OF SECURITY REASONS - BUT AGAIN WE'LL TAKE MORE RISKS AND SHOW THIS THREAD AND THIS COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE BUILT, CURRENTLY BUILD, AND ARE NOW USING THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO BUILD - BITCOIN MINERS.

Dear AMT,

There is a Bulgarian saying that a lie repeated constantly became true. There is another Bulgarian one saying that when rumor arouses telling your sister is a hore you can not explain that you do not have a sister.  No matter how big is your FONT and how loud you are shouting please calm down a little bit As you put me in position to explain that I do not have a sister here are the facts that my sister does not exist:

About your lies
1.   I own you 10 btc of a lost bet about power consuption
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=304605.msg5104501;topicseen#msg5104501
As we can clearly see you wrote some stupid excuses once again and after that you silently changed your website specs.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=304605.msg5111538#msg5111538
Can you belie it? You lost a bet never made and you are telling everyone I own you 10 BTC – Call you shrink guy’s. lies lies and more lies. You can continue to repeat them as much as you want
2.   I was asking for a FREE MINER to REVIEW
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=304605.msg5104501;topicseen#msg5104501
In the same post the GENEROUS FREE offer was made by you I replied as follows
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=304605.msg5104501#msg5104501

I would be glad to make an review with miner in hand. I know that there is no free lunch so I would like to know what shall I pay in btc and when I will be getting my miner
Do you see me asking or begging a FREE GENNO STAKE?

About your business

1. You have not sold a single bare chip and you have not shipped a single working miner that is all. You are adding zero VALUE to bitmine business. If you think you are adding something in terms of sales or engendering inventories to bitmine business visit you shrink once again and change your pills immediately
2. So get you ass back to work before your positive thinking US customers bring your ass to court
3. As long as you are answering only to my trolling I will ask you to give clear update to your customers and to answer to all of the bellow questions one by one so you can give "some new attitude" of yours posts as suggested by captin crunch

1. Delivery date of your miner? Be so kind and skip the part with lies that you are shipping from two weeks now since no one has received it JUST TELL THE TRUTH! Are you hasshing with customer miners or your are so dum and you can not make them work
2. Will it be 5 or 6 module unit. How much TH will you get
3. How much power will it consume very important if you plan to run it at home and you are in US. What psu(s) will be inside over clocking options if any
4. How stable is it
5. Does it work at all - that will be a first thing to ask

[loshia]

so what should i do?  
Order: #492
Product   Quantity   Price
1.2TH/s Coin Miner   1   $5,299
Cart Subtotal:   $5,299
Shipping:   $90 via USA Domestic ( 5 To 7 Business Days )
Order Total:   $5,389

the site says its been shipped.  but nothing has come in.  i live in Texas i just want my money back or the 1.2ths miner.  this is my order if someone is suing i think we can do a large case suet.  but i am not a lawyer.  please any help would be greatly appreciated

You have two optiions
1. Visit them in person and have a free GENNO Steak As a bonus consider generous offer for a month delay and free rakia drink
2. Bring them to court immediately
The choice is yours always AMT

[raydeeyo]

I've been reading this thread since last week, took me a week since my last catch up at page 86..... calm down AMT, it doesn't need to reply all negatives which is quite stressing and it never helps any of it. From the beginning, people demand for pictures (picture at pg 80~90, somewhere at 130 & latest at 155), then video, location & so on... eventually they will just non-stop bashing... so just ignore them, and keep up posting the progress like what others official companies do, hopefully with more photos, video, tracks & etc... replying the thread with long post(& caplocks) is painful to read... 

Sorry guys, i just hope to see updates on my miners in this thread instead of spams... 

[rik_khaos]

I've been reading this thread since last week, took me a week since my last catch up at page 86..... calm down AMT, it doesn't need to reply all negatives which is quite stressing and it never helps any of it. From the beginning, people demand for pictures (picture at pg 80~90, somewhere at 130 & latest at 155), then video, location & so on... eventually they will just non-stop bashing... so just ignore them, and keep up posting the progress like what others official companies do, hopefully with more photos, video, tracks & etc... replying the thread with long post(& caplocks) is painful to read... 

Sorry guys, i just hope to see updates on my miners in this thread instead of spams... 

Name:   raydeeyo
Posts:   3
Activity:   3
Position:   Newbie
Date Registered:   February 20, 2014, 02:12:25 AM
Last Active:   Today at 08:39:20 AM

saving some other people some time since this is a big deal to them.

[Biomech]

I've been reading this thread since last week, took me a week since my last catch up at page 86..... calm down AMT, it doesn't need to reply all negatives which is quite stressing and it never helps any of it. From the beginning, people demand for pictures (picture at pg 80~90, somewhere at 130 & latest at 155), then video, location & so on... eventually they will just non-stop bashing... so just ignore them, and keep up posting the progress like what others official companies do, hopefully with more photos, video, tracks & etc... replying the thread with long post(& caplocks) is painful to read... 

Sorry guys, i just hope to see updates on my miners in this thread instead of spams... 

Name:   raydeeyo
Posts:   3
Activity:   3
Position:   Newbie
Date Registered:   February 20, 2014, 02:12:25 AM
Last Active:   Today at 08:39:20 AM

saving some other people some time since this is a big deal to them.

You play both sides of the street remarkably well! This is the mark of a true Smartass. Where I come from that's a compliment, given the alternative

[rik_khaos]

I've been reading this thread since last week, took me a week since my last catch up at page 86..... calm down AMT, it doesn't need to reply all negatives which is quite stressing and it never helps any of it. From the beginning, people demand for pictures (picture at pg 80~90, somewhere at 130 & latest at 155), then video, location & so on... eventually they will just non-stop bashing... so just ignore them, and keep up posting the progress like what others official companies do, hopefully with more photos, video, tracks & etc... replying the thread with long post(& caplocks) is painful to read... 

Sorry guys, i just hope to see updates on my miners in this thread instead of spams... 

Name:   raydeeyo
Posts:   3
Activity:   3
Position:   Newbie
Date Registered:   February 20, 2014, 02:12:25 AM
Last Active:   Today at 08:39:20 AM

saving some other people some time since this is a big deal to them.

You play both sides of the street remarkably well! This is the mark of a true Smartass. Where I come from that's a compliment, given the alternative

I've been training for 30 years, thanks!

[clenell]

so what should i do? 
Order: #492

Let's play, Shipped or Not Shipped!

ORDER 400 TO 500 HAVE BEEN SHIPPED OUT ALREADY!

Shipped out before 2/21...

Tue 2/25/2014 3:46 AM
Hi Amit,

our entire team is in the manufacturing facility testing and assembling.
Your miner will be shipping anytime now. I will send you the tracking number the moment when I get heads up from the assembly team. It will be any day now.

Many thanks,
Alyssa

Not shipped out by 2/25.

What's your vote? Shipped or Not Shipped?

It's more complicated than your black and white view of the world. Part of the added value AMT brings to the table is that their units bring quantum effects to the macroscopic world. An AMT miner is a superposition of many possible states, include "shipped" and "not shipped".

ROFL!

[clenell]

I've been reading this thread since last week, took me a week since my last catch up at page 86..... calm down AMT, it doesn't need to reply all negatives which is quite stressing and it never helps any of it. From the beginning, people demand for pictures (picture at pg 80~90, somewhere at 130 & latest at 155), then video, location & so on... eventually they will just non-stop bashing... so just ignore them, and keep up posting the progress like what others official companies do, hopefully with more photos, video, tracks & etc... replying the thread with long post(& caplocks) is painful to read... 

Sorry guys, i just hope to see updates on my miners in this thread instead of spams... 

rofl... another newbie coming to the defense of AMT. How many accounts does AMT have?