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Author Topic: [ANN][BTCZ] BitcoinZ - zkSNARKs 21b max POW-Zhash No-Premine No-Dev Tax  (Read 72101 times)
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May 10, 2018, 02:27:08 PM
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All three clients, Telegram, Discord, Slack, connected together to the one BTCZ group.
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May 10, 2018, 03:15:14 PM
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To Show You, I'm Unselfish! I going to Gift you from my pocket with #BitcoinZ $BTCZ every end of the month for most active members (comments under my twitter posts, retweets)!!!
Howabout you doing it for free, I want to give back my love too!
You can comment or retweet under my older posts too! Lets reach as many ppl as we can!
I pinned the above message, till that is pinned, I gonna gift the most active member - follower!
In #Decentralization what We Trust!
#BitcoinZ is a gift for the World!

https://twitter.com/FollowWings8/status/994535628539908096?s=19

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May 10, 2018, 03:18:16 PM
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Give a look on our forum, to get
Know better BitZ proposal- vote - listings!
And please vote to deal:
https://forum.btcz.rocks/t/bit-z-com-exchange-enter-voting-1btc-fundraising/424

Also dont forget our new announcement, set reminder!!!!
Here: https://youtu.be/0dOBuHVwJ5s
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May 10, 2018, 04:14:58 PM
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Why is everyone interested in getting BTCz on exchanges? That has never helped any coin's adoption. BTCP lost 40% in 5 days after being listed on HitBTC. Come on guys, wake up and stop spending 10BTC on crap like Coinbene and spend that on the devs who are working so hard on this project.

We don't need more exchanges. Exchanges make money off of fees so its their loss if they dont list us.



Bigger exchange means higher liquidity and visibility. BTCP is a pump and dump coin, it can not be compared with BTCZ. The fundamental idea of these are totally different, BTCP has huge marketing budget but is also more centralised than BitcoinZ. Also in price is a huge difference, BitcoinZ is far more undervalued compared to BTCP. What is the reason why BTCP worth 30 USD meanwhile BTCZ only 0,0035 USD?
The over 8500 times difference can not be explained with fundamentals, not even with the difference in maximum coin supply of 21M/21B.

So we need more exchanges for decentralisation and bigger exchanges for higher volume and visibility.

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BitcoinZ: Deserves to be listed on top exchanges!


BTC was on 100 exchanges when it was $19,500 and now its less than half of that. BTCP dropped 40% after getting listed on HitBTC which is a well known exchange. Exchanges don't help a coin. Exchanges add liquidity for big whales to dump without moving the price too far down. Specially when we target garbage like Bit-z, Coinbene and Exrates for our exchanges.

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@brooklynite/btcz-and-how-it-is-a-distinguished-crytocurrency-bitcoinz-or-bitcoin-2-0
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May 10, 2018, 04:44:47 PM
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Give a look on our forum, to get
Know better BitZ proposal- vote - listings!
And please vote to deal:
https://forum.btcz.rocks/t/bit-z-com-exchange-enter-voting-1btc-fundraising/424

Also dont forget our new announcement, set reminder!!!!
Here: https://youtu.be/0dOBuHVwJ5s

Please stop with the Bit-Z thing. We are not buying their dumpa$$ token to just vote.

All the budget should go to the devs who are working so hard to make BTCz better. Not to exchanges.

If we make an application with a 10BTC fee for exchanges to apply to devs for permission to list BTCz I bet you many exchanges will line up and send the money.

https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@brooklynite/btcz-and-how-it-is-a-distinguished-crytocurrency-bitcoinz-or-bitcoin-2-0
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May 10, 2018, 05:43:19 PM
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Why is everyone interested in getting BTCz on exchanges? That has never helped any coin's adoption. BTCP lost 40% in 5 days after being listed on HitBTC. Come on guys, wake up and stop spending 10BTC on crap like Coinbene and spend that on the devs who are working so hard on this project.

We don't need more exchanges. Exchanges make money off of fees so its their loss if they dont list us.



Bigger exchange means higher liquidity and visibility. BTCP is a pump and dump coin, it can not be compared with BTCZ. The fundamental idea of these are totally different, BTCP has huge marketing budget but is also more centralised than BitcoinZ. Also in price is a huge difference, BitcoinZ is far more undervalued compared to BTCP. What is the reason why BTCP worth 30 USD meanwhile BTCZ only 0,0035 USD?
The over 8500 times difference can not be explained with fundamentals, not even with the difference in maximum coin supply of 21M/21B.

So we need more exchanges for decentralisation and bigger exchanges for higher volume and visibility.

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BitcoinZ: Deserves to be listed on top exchanges!


BTC was on 100 exchanges when it was $19,500 and now its less than half of that. BTCP dropped 40% after getting listed on HitBTC which is a well known exchange. Exchanges don't help a coin. Exchanges add liquidity for big whales to dump without moving the price too far down. Specially when we target garbage like Bit-z, Coinbene and Exrates for our exchanges.

ZCL was around 2,5 USD half year ago. Who kept that after the BTCP fork and still keeping it, right now 1 ZCL + 1 BTCP cost 13 USD + 28 USD = 41 USD all together. This means that in half year the price increased 16,4 times, without any fundamental value added, or any state of the art features.
(while comparing with pumped prices in the beginning of January when ZCL was 235 USD, the difference is over 90 times)

So taking into account all of these ZCL and BTCP are still highly overvalued compared to their intrinsic value, driven only by good marketing and centralised pump and dump strategy. Ony the efficient marketing is what we should learn from them. Sooner or later the advantages of BitcoinZ will be appreciated by the investors, and that will be reflected also in a much higher volume and price.

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BitcoinZ: The intrinsic value of this coin is significantly higher than the market price. It's time to buy!
 
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May 10, 2018, 05:44:05 PM
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Maybe Coinbene did it wrong, but don't blame on BitZ we dont know them yet!
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May 10, 2018, 06:06:36 PM
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Miners We NEED YOU!

http://mining4.co.uk/ is now running with 0% fee on all pools until 15/6/18

in light of the recent asic releases we WILL support any fork deemed fit by the community to help keep crypto decentralised!

we have PPLNT and SOLO payout systems!

Come join us and hop in our discord for the latest pool news/info https://discord.gg/5v5QT3W

 
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May 10, 2018, 09:39:53 PM
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BitZ  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Did anyone here read what BitZ is asked for? At least 2k User that Buy this stupid tokens for the Vote, each must Buy Vote Tokens for $100 to get the 2 Million Target Votes. So we Talk about 200k Dollars and all this in 7 Days! Now we look at this https://bitcoinz-sites.github.io/cryptopiatracker/ more then 120 Days Result = 0.002710 BTC  Grin and the same here https://bitcoinz-sites.github.io/binancetracker/ Result = 0.033196 BTC  Grin  or this https://forum.btcz.rocks/t/proposal-to-list-btcz-on-exvo-io-exchange/345 where 110k BTCZ where asked and not reach! This 110K BTCZ are less then $400 and this strong Community  Grin not get it done. Now there is one Person that have this brilliant BitZ Idea and they Burn 1 BTC for nothing. Sorry but it looks if some Fan Boys here already life in an decentralized World..
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May 10, 2018, 10:55:38 PM
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Why we cant go with 5 BTC with some top 30 exchange and 5 BTC with the promotion. Check Ravencoin.. they promote and that is why they have daily volume so big comparing to btcz. We need more pro promotion on CMC and others. Simple.
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May 11, 2018, 05:47:38 AM
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All the budget should go to the devs who are working so hard to make BTCz better. Not to exchanges.
If we make an application with a 10BTC fee for exchanges to apply to devs for permission to list BTCz I bet you many exchanges will line up and send the money.

This sound cool. How would it be, if we would have our own exchange with BTCZ on top and all other exchanges needs to pay us fee to get listed on their exchange.
It is opposite of where the world is going, but what would happen in this scenario? ^^
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May 11, 2018, 11:59:49 AM
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Sorry for saying this, but we are not ready for establishing our own exchange. Currently this is not the purpose of this coin and community.

Before debating about spending the 10 BTC donation for listing BitcoinZ on top 10 exchange, or giving it for developers, or spending on promotions and marketing in order to increase our visibility,
probably first we should know what is the donator's wish, so how he/she would like to spend it. 

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May 11, 2018, 12:34:51 PM
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Personally I don't think that 2000 of us paying $100 each to get on an exchange will happen.
I'd rather see our efforts go into finding a more suitable deal.
I have votecoins anyway and every other vote in aware of you don't give up the coins upon voting.  Hence this seems expensive and suspicious to me.

Btcz having its own exchange will make us look centralised even if the exchange isn't.  Our efforts would be better placed raising awareness of btcz.
I would even speculate that if we put the effort into raising awareness the exchanges may come to us instead.
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May 11, 2018, 12:56:33 PM
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If you knew how complicated creating and even harder running an exchange is, you wouldn't suggest it here.
BitcoinZ doesn't need its own exchange, and if the developers for some stupid reason decide to create it, it's going to die a miserable death and take BitcoinZ with it.

So focus on using that donation for a medium-top size exchange and the rest for promoting BitcoinZ.

BitcoinZ - community driven, no premine, no dev-tax, developers always welcome
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3086664
https://btcz.rocks/
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May 11, 2018, 12:57:06 PM
Last edit: May 11, 2018, 01:32:49 PM by genltc
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Personally I don't think that 2000 of us paying $100 each to get on an exchange will happen.
I'd rather see our efforts go into finding a more suitable deal.
I have votecoins anyway and every other vote in aware of you don't give up the coins upon voting.  Hence this seems expensive and suspicious to me.

Btcz having its own exchange will make us look centralised even if the exchange isn't.  Our efforts would be better placed raising awareness of btcz.
I would even speculate that if we put the effort into raising awareness the exchanges may come to us instead.

All write nonsense about 2000 from the community, when all users of the exchange will vote.
In the event of a victory, 30 million btcz will be distributed among those who voted.
votecoin is the internal coin of the exchange bit-z.com/exchange/vtc_dkkt
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May 11, 2018, 01:10:31 PM
Last edit: May 16, 2018, 10:25:47 AM by Trafo
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Things are messed up a bit.
VoteCoin is VOT, while the voting coin of Bit-Z exchange is Vertcoin VTC? Am I right?
There is also a huge price difference between VOT and VTC (VoteCoin is only 0,018 USD, while Vertcoin is 2 USD).

Please clarify this! Thanks!


Update: I was totally wrong. Even if the VTC abbreviation is the same in case of Vertcoin as well as in case of the voting coin of Bit-Z exchange, they are totally different coins. The Bit-Z version of VTC is used only on their exchange for voting purposes (currently it cost 0,13 USD).
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May 11, 2018, 03:30:33 PM
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BITCOINZ COMMUNITY BOUNTY PROGRAM
EARN 6000 BTCZ BY INTRODUCING A BUISNESS TO BITCOINZ

https://easybtcz.com/
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May 11, 2018, 05:49:48 PM
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Sooner or later, BitcoinZ WILL NEED its own identity.
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May 11, 2018, 06:35:45 PM
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Things are messed up a bit.
VoteCoin is VOT, while the voting coin of Bit-Z exchange is Vertcoin VTC? Am I right?
There is also a huge price difference between VOT and VTC (VoteCoin is only 0,018 USD, while Vertcoin is 2 USD).

Please clarify this! Thanks!
Vote coin of BitZ is BitZ vote token, it is not listed any other exchange. Please visit their site My Friends! Wink
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May 11, 2018, 07:58:42 PM
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Someone talk about Ravencoin... My God! This is to different project. We drive all together. We are community coin. Nowhere to find something more than BitcoinZ. And hey! Where is info of this bounty for real business? We have ultra community, but zero marketing. When other coins release mobile wallets, we are far far away.
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