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March 10, 2018, 02:45:05 AM
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I think making the amount of reports that a user has reported should be displayed somewhere in the users summary page on their profile. This should be optional and isn't enabled by default to prevent people who are subconscious about their report count or possibly accuracy being displayed publicly.

It seems that this stat is requested from time to time, and by allowing this information to be presented publicly could offer rewards for reporting driven by the community. For example, if someone opened a thread which encouraged users to report posts accurately and reward them with either merit points or some sort of other reward we may be able to clean up the forum and take a little workload off the moderators at the same time, though with the increase of reports this may actually create more workload though if it makes the forum cleaner and more infringing posts being removed then I think it's worth it.

Not only does this open the possibly of community driven projects to increase report count across all users by offering incentives, it also encourages users who are statistic centric. Whatever the reason for the user reporting, as long as they are reporting accurately it doesn't really matter.

I think a system like this could well be the answer to sections such as the altcoin board which is frequently overrun by spam. I don't think adding new moderators is the solution, rather it's increasing the amount of people reporting the posts when they see them and then having the existing moderators deal with it. Obviously, some input from the current moderators about workload would be appreciated and if it's the lack of reports which is the problem.

If there's any other ideas on how we can get more people reporting and helping maybe we can get this forum a lot cleaner and get some of the readability back that I'm afraid we've lost in certain sections of the forum. If this is too resource heavy have it update every so often instead of instantly even if it updates every 2 weeks or month it should be sufficient enough.

Edit: On a slightly unrelated note could we also know how many posts in total are reported a day? Good and bad if possible.

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March 10, 2018, 03:07:42 AM
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If there's any other ideas on how we can get more people reporting and helping maybe we can get this forum a lot cleaner and get some of the readability back that I'm afraid we've lost in certain sections of the forum. If this is too resource heavy have it update every so often instead of instantly even if it updates every 2 weeks or month it should be sufficient enough.

I think any hero and legendary member with a good trust and merit score should be given some privileges to immediately ban users which they find are spamming or posting comments which are less than a certain character limit or are not helpful.

For ranks member above, legendary members can take the call while for newbies and jr. members hero members and above can take the call for ban.

If someone is wrongly banned, the user should be allowed to file a claim where if the user is found not guilty, then the merit score and the trust score of the person who banned will drop down! The claim can be handled by one admin and few of the trusted legendary members! 

Mods can include 1 merit point for every x posts correctly reported and take away merits for incorrectly reported too.

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March 10, 2018, 03:16:56 AM
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Nah, I don't agree with handing out special privileges based on users who have high ranks or even high statistics. I don't think merit is the perfect option either as it was introduced as a incentive and reward system for constructive posts, but just gave that as an example for rewards. It would make much more sense for users to receive Bitcoin/altcoin what ever for their contributions somewhat like how signature campaigns are run. Though, this wouldn't be a great pay and wouldn't be anywhere near the signature campaign rates, just an incentive.

To my knowledge once posts are reported they are dealt with within a few hours at the most. Of course this depends on what time zone you are in and when the moderators are available but, judging by how quick reports are dealt with I don't think it's an issue of not having enough moderators able to act on the reports it's the fact that not a lot of people report.

Take for example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2166379.msg21740582#msg21740582

If we have a look at the last 120 days from that update we have some very big drops between users. Generally speaking if we had more users reporting then we would probably not see such big drops. I'm not trying to make those who had reported the lesser amounts on that list sound bad either 50 posts is awesome in the last 120 days, but I think if we had a list of the top 100 we would see a few users only reporting a couple of reports in 120 days. This is based on assumption, but that's why it would be nice to have a response on how many reports are posted a day and how many of those are good reports. If there's a lot of posts which are bad then it might be beneficial to post a topic with advise on reports. Again, I'm not saying those that only report a couple of posts are bad, as it's awesome that they are reporting at all.

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March 10, 2018, 03:29:22 AM
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Nah, I don't agree with handing out special privileges based on users who have high ranks or even high statistics. I don't think merit is the perfect option either as it was introduced as a incentive and reward system for constructive posts, but just gave that as an example for rewards. It would make much more sense for users to receive Bitcoin/altcoin what ever for their contributions somewhat like how signature campaigns are run. Though, this wouldn't be a great pay and wouldn't be anywhere near the signature campaign rates, just an incentive.

To my knowledge once posts are reported they are dealt with within a few hours at the most. Of course this depends on what time zone you are in and when the moderators are available but, judging by how quick reports are dealt with I don't think it's an issue of not having enough moderators able to act on the reports it's the fact that not a lot of people report.

Take for example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2166379.msg21740582#msg21740582

If we have a look at the last 120 days from that update we have some very big drops between users. Generally speaking if we had more users reporting then we would probably not see such big drops. I'm not trying to make those who had reported the lesser amounts on that list sound bad either 50 posts is awesome in the last 120 days, but I think if we had a list of the top 100 we would see a few users only reporting a couple of reports in 120 days. This is based on assumption, but that's why it would be nice to have a response on how many reports are posted a day and how many of those are good reports. If there's a lot of posts which are bad then it might be beneficial to post a topic with advise on reports.

The current moderators are few in number and might have to deal with a lot of posts being reported on a daily basis. Having special privileges doled out to some legendary users and hero members for a start would lessen the load from those moderators and make up for some increased oversight of the reported activity. Since the members who are given privileges also faces risk of losing out on their ranks and merits, it won't be abused by them to carry out any personal vendetta against users who differ with their opinion.

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March 10, 2018, 03:39:26 AM
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The current moderators are few in number and might have to deal with a lot of posts being reported on a daily basis.

Although, it has been stated by a few moderators recently that their workload is high right now I'm not sure whether they mean that their queues are large or that there just isn't enough time in the day to actually deal with all the posts are they come across. I think it was hilariousandco that recently said he's only dealing with reports in the queue these days rather than finding and dealing with posts himself. I may be mistaken in this though and I'll try to find the post in which he stated this.

Having special privileges doled out to some legendary users and hero members for a start would lessen the load from those moderators and make up for some increased oversight of the reported activity. Since the members who are given privileges also faces risk of losing out on their ranks and merits, it won't be abused by them to carry out any personal vendetta against users who differ with their opinion.
Being a higher ranked member doesn't really mean you know the rules enough in order to enforce them and doesn't make you trustworthy either. The same as reporting a lot doesn't make you trustworthy and judging by how long it takes to handle the reports that I put in it doesn't seem there's too much of a issue with dealing with reports that are in the queue, because it's much less time consuming than the moderators looking for them and dealing with them that way. This could just be because my timezone overlaps with a few others too but, at the most it's a few hours for myself.

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March 10, 2018, 06:00:34 AM
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The current moderators are few in number and might have to deal with a lot of posts being reported on a daily basis. Having special privileges doled out to some legendary users and hero members for a start would lessen the load from those moderators and make up for some increased oversight of the reported activity. Since the members who are given privileges also faces risk of losing out on their ranks and merits, it won't be abused by them to carry out any personal vendetta against users who differ with their opinion.

I wouldn't ban somebody if I could get negative merits, rank. if merit sources could temporarily ban garbage posters, I would do it. if there is a thread asking for ways to earn Bitcoin and 200 members posting to suggest joining signature campaigns, they should get banned.

If there's any other ideas on how we can get more people reporting and helping maybe we can get this forum a lot cleaner.

When you say making the forum cleaner, you have seen the garbage, report them. if there are too many for you to handle, convince administration to charge a fee per post if a member has 10 consecutive garbage posts. who would determine if they are garbage or not? merit sources. if merit sources are trusted to reward quality, you should trust them with stopping the ones posting garbage.

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When you say making the forum cleaner, you have seen the garbage, report them. if there are too many for you to handle, convince administration to charge a fee per post if a member has 10 consecutive garbage posts. who would determine if they are garbage or not? merit sources. if merit sources are trusted to reward quality, you should trust them with stopping the ones posting garbage.

This would limit too many legitimate users I think personally not everyone can come out with quality replies straight off the bat having just entered the world of cryptocurrencies. If it's literally just posting "Thanks" or "Great project" I would hope that if they had 10 consecutive posts like that they would already be banned. If they have 10 poor quality posts as a newbie I don't think we should be that harsh on them and require them to pay a fee. I've certainly made poor posts in my time here and so as many others.

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