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March 10, 2018, 12:48:58 PM
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The amount of spamming in the forum so must be KYC for verification. Now many people have kept 4 to 5 accounts to earn money in the bounty. It does not really help anyone. Those who are bringing good projects to the market, their projects also facing problem. This creates the image of the crypto market. I am requesting the moderators to shutdown more than one account please open KYC system
I think it will bring something good for everyone.


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March 10, 2018, 01:00:00 PM
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This isn't going to happen for numerous reasons and if you did a search you would see people have already suggested this. It would be far easier just to remove signatures and problem solved and that's likely what will happen if the merit system doesn't curb this sort of behaviour.

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March 10, 2018, 01:00:49 PM
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How do you propose mods do this (recognise alt accounts).

1. You could use IP addresses but I've seen a few times where a sibling/spouse is using the forum as well as them. They're probably on the same IP.
2. MAC addresses, but these run into the same issues as above as people might use the same devices, however, similarly, a spammer might just buy another computer each time (a cheap one wouldn't cause them too much harm).

Also, I think people might have an issue with a sudden rule change. Unless something like (all new accounts can't be alts, but the people would be starting to sell bulk newbie accounts to spammers that they've acquired over their time here).

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March 10, 2018, 01:25:52 PM
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The amount of spamming in the forum so must be KYC for verification. Now many people have kept 4 to 5 accounts to earn money in the bounty. It does not really help anyone. Those who are bringing good projects to the market, their projects also facing problem. This creates the image of the crypto market. I am requesting the moderators to shutdown more than one account please open KYC system
I think it will bring something good for everyone.



What will you require for this KYC ?

1) An address proof

2) Proof of  identitiy

If you are smart enough , you can find thousands of such documents for free online. The spammers are smart enough to use while verifying multiple accounts. And do not forgot about the time consumed in verifying all this. It will take months for the mods to verify this data for the existing members and thousands of new members are joining everyday.

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March 10, 2018, 06:13:58 PM
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The amount of spamming in the forum so must be KYC for verification. Now many people have kept 4 to 5 accounts to earn money in the bounty. It does not really help anyone. Those who are bringing good projects to the market, their projects also facing problem. This creates the image of the crypto market. I am requesting the moderators to shutdown more than one account please open KYC system
I think it will bring something good for everyone.



What will you require for this KYC ?

1) An address proof

2) Proof of  identitiy

If you are smart enough , you can find thousands of such documents for free online. The spammers are smart enough to use while verifying multiple accounts. And do not forgot about the time consumed in verifying all this. It will take months for the mods to verify this data for the existing members and thousands of new members are joining everyday.
So how do the nitellar and the scroll company make a fair verification. I think this information is enough. Everyone will be given an opportunity to change the name once they will prove their information, who fail to prove their account will be suspended. There will be information associated with your ID card. I think that many smamming IDs will be lost.

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March 10, 2018, 06:16:38 PM
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The amount of spamming in the forum so must be KYC for verification. Now many people have kept 4 to 5 accounts to earn money in the bounty. It does not really help anyone. Those who are bringing good projects to the market, their projects also facing problem. This creates the image of the crypto market. I am requesting the moderators to shutdown more than one account please open KYC system
I think it will bring something good for everyone.



What will you require for this KYC ?

1) An address proof

2) Proof of  identitiy

If you are smart enough , you can find thousands of such documents for free online. The spammers are smart enough to use while verifying multiple accounts. And do not forgot about the time consumed in verifying all this. It will take months for the mods to verify this data for the existing members and thousands of new members are joining everyday.
So how do the nitellar and the scroll company make a fair verification. I think this information is enough. Everyone will be given an opportunity to change the name once they will prove their information, who fail to prove their account will be suspended. There will be information associated with your ID card. I think that many smamming IDs will be lost.
And their personal information will remain hidden. They will have an alias which we see. And all the rest of the information will prove them.

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March 10, 2018, 06:46:00 PM
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Please use regular font size, your thread is looking quite ugly.

Complete shutdown of signature campaign is the only solution for the problem of spamming and multiple accounts. But, with the introduction of merit system, this problem will be resolved by the time.

KYC has been already discussed in the past and was found impractical. It will increase the moderator's work and they may also required additional staff to roll out and complete such process. Furthermore, there are many chances that users will manage to abuse this kyc process by providing the fake documents.
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March 10, 2018, 07:13:54 PM
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Are you sure about having more than one accounts because the moderators have already notice this and enabling merit system. It is very hard to operate one account at a time because getting merit is way tougher. If you have the courage to do any thing. You probably get your way to that path.

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March 10, 2018, 07:27:21 PM
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This is ridiculous idea, we're in Bitcoin forum where privacy/anonymity is one of important things. I'm sure some members don't want to give their personal info even if the admin really keep the data secure.

From bounty/signature manager side, they should strictly select their participants (and use SMAS if it's too much for them). Requiring user to have high rank and higher merit also helps.
From forum side, simply disable signature or force user to be VIP/Copper member to enable signature.


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March 10, 2018, 07:37:53 PM
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Yeah, let's kick anyone getting multiple accounts (bounties spammers) so the others can join ICO easier? Let's kick all family members & friends sharing the same connection for this reasonable reason?
Why don't you simply ask ICO managers to take a look on your ids and faces before you join? This could help everyone...



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March 10, 2018, 07:50:51 PM
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The amount of spamming in the forum so must be KYC for verification. Now many people have kept 4 to 5 accounts to earn money in the bounty. It does not really help anyone. Those who are bringing good projects to the market, their projects also facing problem. This creates the image of the crypto market. I am requesting the moderators to shutdown more than one account please open KYC system
I think it will bring something good for everyone.


I once got laughed at for suggesting that users should have the option to verify their account using their phone number, and not to combat spam, mind you, just for security reasons. I can't imagine what some of these people will think once they read this.

I think it's a preposterous idea, by the way. Especially when we're talking about a cryptocurrency forum. A lot of members here value their privacy so much that they'd rather quit it than give any personal information.

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March 10, 2018, 08:01:56 PM
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The amount of spamming in the forum so must be KYC for verification. Now many people have kept 4 to 5 accounts to earn money in the bounty. It does not really help anyone. Those who are bringing good projects to the market, their projects also facing problem. This creates the image of the crypto market. I am requesting the moderators to shutdown more than one account please open KYC system
I think it will bring something good for everyone.



Thats not even close to happening. I don't think we re running an institution here which needs verified users and stuff like that. That will turn the BCT into giant data pool of KYC. What we are running here a government back office? Come on man! You are thinking all this because you think that every person that is present on the forum is here to earn money! But no its not like that. They all are not here to earn money like you, many of them are here to earn knowledge as well. If you keep the money thing on your mind then you will get thoughts of spamming and junk account all. over. Thats because you are thinking about it every other seconds. 

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With all due respect, but I think it's a real nonsense. It's an exaggeration to request the KYC to avoid multi accounts. Among other reasons, because I don't think it would work. For example, they can use the ID of family members, friends or another methods.

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March 10, 2018, 08:45:01 PM
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This has been discussed before, Theymos values privacy and anonymitiy and he's never going to add mandatory KYC to the forum.
Not only he values privacy and anonymity, there's also a problem in storing the KYC's data from the hands of meddling hackers.
There's also a problem with trust, I personally wouldn't trust anyone with my info, that's why I never verified my account on Wire-x or Cryptopay.

All in all, KYC on forum will be impossible to maintain and implement.
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With all due respect, but I think it's a real nonsense. It's an exaggeration to request the KYC to avoid multi accounts. Among other reasons, because I don't think it would work. For example, they can use the ID of family members, friends or another methods.
Well every system has a loophole, and what you cited as an example is one of the loopholes in KYC. For now I think the current system where DT2 tagging those who have alts red trust is better than requesting KYC for it might compromise the anonymity and privacy of everyone here. Those who doesn't contribute anything in the forum will be banned sooner or later anyway OP so just let them be.

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March 11, 2018, 12:21:53 AM
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This has been discussed before, Theymos values privacy and anonymitiy


but he does do extensive logging and archiving.  Sad

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I'll get right on that, just as soon as hell freezes over.

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March 11, 2018, 02:13:26 AM
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Have you been on forums especially on big forums like reddit and 4chan? They don't perform kyc or some stuff that requires to submit your documents to prove your identity, and also these will pose a risk why? If the forum's database was hacked all of account detail and personal information will be comprimised and these will be used on criminal activities.
This isn't going to happen for numerous reasons and if you did a search you would see people have already suggested this. It would be far easier just to remove signatures and problem solved and that's likely what will happen if the merit system doesn't curb this sort of behaviour.
Indeed removing the signatire in forum will be the best option to prevent spam in this forum if the merit system didn't work to prevent spam.

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This has been discussed before, Theymos values privacy and anonymitiy


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+ maintaining and adding another security for the database of the identity of the members. The forum can be target by most of the hacker if kyc is implemented.


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March 11, 2018, 07:55:22 AM
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At first you should know that anyone in this forum is allowed to have more than 1 account but all of your account can't be able to join the same campaign if you don't want to get your account tagged. Beside I don't think account KYC will work in here cause nobody will share their real identity for just an account in this forum. Beside it's really easy to find out fake identity on the internet so I think Bitcoin account KYC is not possible.

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