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March 12, 2018, 12:12:23 AM
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When you're trying to mitigate sound from an ASIC you need a) to reflect sounds back into the box and b) absorb sounds within the box. I've contructed a box from 25 mm MDF and lined it with 30 mm closed-cell foam marketed for vehicle sound-deadening but I'd like to do a better job and I was wondering what else I could construct the box from that would improve performance. I've read that bathroom tiles are good at reflecting sounds because they're hard and very smooth (not the textured ones, obviously) so I was considering attaching them to the inside of the box between the MDF and the foam to improve sound absorption. Does anyone think this makes sense or is a waste of time?

I'd actually really like to make something from concrete like this but it would be really heavy (kind of why I think it would be effective).
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March 12, 2018, 01:52:58 AM
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When you're trying to mitigate sound from an ASIC you need a) to reflect sounds back into the box and b) absorb sounds within the box. I've contructed a box from 25 mm MDF and lined it with 30 mm closed-cell foam marketed for vehicle sound-deadening but I'd like to do a better job and I was wondering what else I could construct the box from that would improve performance. I've read that bathroom tiles are good at reflecting sounds because they're hard and very smooth (not the textured ones, obviously) so I was considering attaching them to the inside of the box between the MDF and the foam to improve sound absorption. Does anyone think this makes sense or is a waste of time?

I'd actually really like to make something from concrete like this but it would be really heavy (kind of why I think it would be effective).


no concrete  mdf is good but I have a series of  youtube videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6soWakwmK5M

shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THQHtFPkzuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X15H0qLNyI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thH3vMx28RM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DySrCBras3w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-9sGDZAWEM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mqxy28jPvw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlB5LikKeiw


you want this from home depot


https://www.homedepot.com/p/UltraTouch-48-in-x-6-ft-Radiant-Barrier-30000-11406/100656748
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N1F737R/ref=twister_dp_update?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

1)go mdf
2)then the foam you have
3)then the home depot product
4)then the amazon blanket

 to prevent shorts and fires even more use the large fire proof blanket from amazon.


also realize  you need to let air in and air out of that box.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/10-in-x-25-ft-Insulated-Flexible-Duct-R6-Silver-Jacket-F6IFD10X300/100142376

2x  6 foot tubes out  or 3x 4 foot tubes out

2x  6 foot tubes in  or 3x 4 foot tubes in

it is 25 feet long.

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March 12, 2018, 02:27:53 AM
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I think your construct could be improved by adding ducts to the outlet so the heat isn't getting trapped inside the construct. Some of it will be recirculating. (I only watched the last video).

I'm aware that air needs to get in and out of the box. Anyone who puts their ASIC in a seal box is dumbass!

MDF isn't that good; it's just easy to work with and better than nothing.

I'll look into using a fireblanket inside the box though. Thanks.
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March 12, 2018, 02:35:48 AM
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I think your construct could be improved by adding ducts to the outlet so the heat isn't getting trapped inside the construct. Some of it will be recirculating. (I only watched the last video).

I'm aware that air needs to get in and out of the box. Anyone who puts their ASIC in a seal box is dumbass!

MDF isn't that good; it's just easy to work with and better than nothing.

I'll look into using a fireblanket inside the box though. Thanks.

yeah  they are short proof and very fire resistant.  they will melt at about 1100 f  but they never burn.

Yeah  that  was a fast  build  it  worked but I ended up putting 3 of these fans on the exhaust end

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835345040

this helped get all  hot air out and did not add to the noise.

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March 12, 2018, 12:47:55 PM
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mdf is actually  really good for sound control.

I built  a few recording studios  with

 sheetrock/aspahlt/mdf/asphalt/mdf/mixed foam/fireblankets 

the rooms are very dead


https://www.homedepot.com/p/Sheetrock-Firecode-Core-5-8-in-x-4-ft-x-8-ft-Gypsum-Board-14211011308/100321591

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Owens-Corning-225-sq-ft-WeatherLock-Flex-Flexible-Self-Sealing-Ice-and-Water-Shield-Barrier-WLFL/206820553

https://www.homedepot.com/p/MDF-Panel-Common-1-2-in-x-4-ft-x-8-ft-Actual-1-2-in-x-49-in-x-97-in-M31240849097000000A/202332602

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Owens-Corning-225-sq-ft-WeatherLock-Flex-Flexible-Self-Sealing-Ice-and-Water-Shield-Barrier-WLFL/206820553

https://www.homedepot.com/p/MDF-Panel-Common-1-2-in-x-4-ft-x-8-ft-Actual-1-2-in-x-49-in-x-97-in-M31240849097000000A/202332602

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Auralex-2-ft-W-x-2-ft-L-x-2-in-H-Studio-Foam-Wedge-Panels-Charcoal-Half-Pack-12-Panels-per-Box-2SF22CHA-HP/203468284
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Auralex-2-ft-W-x-2-ft-L-x-2-in-H-Studio-Foam-Pyramid-Panels-Charcoal-Half-Pack-12-Panels-per-Box-2PYR22CHA-HP/203468292

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N1F737R/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?


seven layers above  the foam panels were mixed.

we added the fire blankets after  this  happened

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Station_nightclub_fire

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December 02, 2021, 11:40:55 AM
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There is a whole industry for sound isolation in buildings, you could build a box or retrofit a closet with the products and techniques described at these sites:

https://www.soundproofingcompany.com/soundproofing-101
https://www.soundisoco.com/
https://www.acousticalsurfaces.com/


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