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August 17, 2018, 06:35:01 AM
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It does not require large capital and does not need to wait a long time, if invest property or real estate would need big capital and I do not have the capital to invest in property.
Yeah if you are agree to invest in bitcoin you don’t need to have high amount of money or a lot of property you even can be an investors working with bitcoin having no capital. So I think for me the best choice is bitcoin not the real estate, I will keep my money safe and will see it growing when I invest my money to bitcoin but my real estate won’t be able to give me the profit I get from bitcoin.

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August 20, 2018, 06:46:23 AM
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if you have a guarantee of such profitability for a year, then why haven't you done it yet? I mean, it's a very good yield.

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August 20, 2018, 07:42:35 AM
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I've come to realize many have a negative opinion of zerohedge. Having read their articles over the last 10-15 years, I think I have a different perspective from most and know that some of the things zerohedge has published over the years have turned out to be true. Their opinion is often dissenting as they were one of the few independent publications and there were campaigns waged against their credibility in the past.

As this ZH article says, the value of real estate worldwide may be likely to diminish due to wages not growing at a fast enough rate to sustain rapidly accelerating rent or real estate prices. Demand may inevitably decline which could lead to another massive drop in value across the board once government funded home loan programs and foreign demand for real estate dry up.

Real estate may not be a good investment. Who knows for certain?

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London's Property Crash Has Begun

Authored by Damian Reilly via Medium.com,

The average age of a first time mum at London’s Chelsea and Westminster hospital is 37, a statistic that tells you everything you need to know about the choices supposedly affluent city dwellers are being forced to make in the capital. For the middle classes, the cost of living in London — the cost of getting by — long ago went past insane (£17,040: the cost per year of educating a four year-old child at Thomas’s school in Fulham, not including uniform). It’s the incredible price of property, of course, that’s been the engine driving this madness, ratcheting the pressure ever higher on Londoners who don’t own a home while making very wealthy, on paper at least, those who do.

For the last two decades and more, the capital’s property market to all intents and purposes has behaved like a giant Ponzi scheme played on a global scale. Money from all over the world has poured into London bricks, inflating values unrealistically in relation to wages, while the lavish bonuses paid to European bankers working in the City have also stoked momentum responsible for pushing up, for example, the average price of a London semi-detached house by 553 per cent between January 1995 and November 2017, from £133,820 to £873,603.

Over the same period, the average cost of a detached house in the capital went from £257,748 to £1,453,271
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At last, however, the party is over. London property prices, now still flailing cartoonishly in mid-air despite being well over the edge of a cliff, are at the start of what we can call, for want of a better term, a death plunge. Although the carnage is only just beginning in earnest, desperate homeowners looking to sell are already dropping asking prices by tens of thousands of pounds and more. They know the tide is going out quickly.

The reasons you would have to be clinically insane to buy property in London today are blessedly easy to understand. Describing a modern financial disaster normally requires some pretence of understanding, say, derivatives markets or the myriad immensely complex ways international banks package and trade debt. Not this time.

This time the four horsemen of the capital’s property apocalypse  -  Brexit, knackered oil prices, the threat of a socialist government and absolutely astonishing levels of personal debt  -  are so obvious and easy to see coming they might as well be arriving on bright red London buses.

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1. Brexit is the most obvious factor frightening away potential buyers. Why would anyone purchase a property now in the capital when such an enormous and ominous question mark hangs in the sky? International investors keen to use London as a glamorous base from which to access European markets are understandably cautious — despite some misleadingly high profile 2017 Chinese investments into landmark London buildings — while the threat of a banker exodus is very real (property prices in Frankfurt are spiking as I type). According to the latest report by property data experts Molior London, sales of homes in the capital dropped by 20 percent in the last quarter of 2017. The report added some 15,000 recently completed luxury apartments remain unsold. For market watchers this is an amazing departure from the status quo, when London new builds were snapped up by global investors often before a brick had been laid.

2. The sustained low oil price is also very bad news for London property, chiefly because it means wealthy Arabs — traditionally big-time investors in the capital — are no longer so wealthy. Since Saudi Arabia went tonto on American shale producers in 2015, opening all the spigots to flood the market with cheap oil in an effort to drive them out of business, Gulf Arabs have had a lot fewer disposable petrodollars to put into Mayfair and Knightsbridge pied-a-terres. In fact, virtually all Gulf states are currently running heavy budget deficits, meaning there is significantly less cash washing about at the top of the London property market — bad news for property sellers down the ladder.

Dr Eckart Woertz, an expert in Gulf economies and senior researcher at the Barcelona Centre for International Affairs, explains: “The low oil price means there is less money to invest. In fact, most Gulf countries are now repatriating money. Look at Saudi Arabia — they have repatriated $200bn of their foreign reserves. The appetite to invest large-scale in London real estate by the big sovereign wealth funds and wealthy individuals is much reduced, which is unsurprising given the yields that are available.”

He adds the recent Riyadh Ritz sheikhdown by Saudi Arabia’s de facto ruler Mohammed bin Salman of 100 or so of the kingdom’s richest men has sent a powerful message to other wealthy Saudis considering investing abroad. “They cannot do it as much now — they cannot wire big amounts. I know someone who has set up a real estate development in a European capital… he has Saudi clients who are telling him they cannot get more than ten million dollars out of the country. Wiring money now raises suspicion.”

3. For those of us who would love to be worried about the difficulty of wiring ten million dollars, the prospect of Jeremy Corbyn waiting in the wings to become Britain’s next Prime Minister is a rather more relatable bad omen for London property values. Corbyn, who at the time of writing was priced at 3–1 to be Britain’s next leader, would head up a socialist government very different in outlook to the nakedly capitalist ones that have presided over the capital’s property boom. Corbyn, for example, has openly advocated large-scale “requisitioning” of homes owned and left empty by wealthy investors in order to give them to the poor. “It cannot be acceptable that in London you have luxury buildings and luxury flats kept as land banking for the future while the homeless and poor look for somewhere to live,” he has said. While undoubtedly a lovely sentiment, Jez, making state confiscation threats out loud isn’t great for shifting houses to minted foreigners.

4. And then there’s perhaps the most overlooked factor affecting the market: after years and years of being squeezed relentlessly, the indigenous London middle class, as it is in the wider UK, is largely skint. According to a recent survey by comparethemarket.com, a person in Britain is on average £8,000 in debt, not including mortgage repayments. Last June, the Bank of England announced UK unsecured consumer credit had gone over £200bn. It’s not all skagheads in tenement blocks running up these debts. Research has repeatedly found that more than a third of people using credit cards on a monthly basis to make ends meet earn between £50k and £70k a year. In London, where living costs are highest, the pain is felt as keenly, if not moreso, as it is anywhere else in the country. With interest rates expected to start rising in earnest this year, that pain can be expected to intensify horribly.
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Over the coming months you will read and hear plenty of commentary from interested parties talking up the prospects for London’s property market. All of it will be bull.

London’s property market has not “plateaued”, nor has growth “cooled”. London property values are right now dropping like a stone and there is little to break the fall. Whisper it: 2018 will be the year smug Londoners finally stopped boring on about basement and loft conversions at smart dinner parties.

By the late summer, these same people will be weeping hot tears into cold gazpacho starters and moaning to anyone who’ll listen about negative equity. At long last, the crash has arrived.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-19/londons-property-crash-has-begun

Yeah actually I think people have a negative perception about zerohedge because they are quite ruthless about their opinion and nearly always bearish. That's not necessarily a bad thing in the modern "this time is different" crash cycles we keep going through as the mainstream media charges blindly into recession after recession.

There are similar symptoms in housing markets around the world right now. Too much money came into it too quickly, and now it's showing signs of faltering. There's not a guarantee anymore and I personally would stay out of it. Maybe a nice holiday home on the coast somewhere quiet might be a good investment, just because there are no other people around there.
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August 20, 2018, 09:35:39 AM
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Must be an investment cryptocurrency. Because real estate is afraid of the crisis, the financial crisis has been quietly shaped. This is very dangerous.
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August 20, 2018, 11:51:19 AM
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if I can choose, I would agree if we buy a small portion of Cripto profits to buy assets or shares in the real world, in anticipation, however in life we have to have reserves, the absence of cripto guarantees can last a long time and continue to give us profit a little on guard, after all it doesn't hurt that we spend it not the capital used so it won't interfere with our investment in the crypto world
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August 20, 2018, 12:29:47 PM
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It does not require large capital and does not need to wait a long time, if invest property or real estate would need big capital and I do not have the capital to invest in property.
Yeah if you are agree to invest in bitcoin you don’t need to have high amount of money or a lot of property you even can be an investors working with bitcoin having no capital. So I think for me the best choice is bitcoin not the real estate, I will keep my money safe and will see it growing when I invest my money to bitcoin but my real estate won’t be able to give me the profit I get from bitcoin.
but investing in real estate is safer. but i agree, investing in real estate must have a lot of funds, in contrast to bitcoin. at the moment what i am doing is investing in btc, because results of bounty can be allocated there

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August 20, 2018, 01:07:49 PM
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in terms of security and profit certainty, I chose real estate investment, but if you dare to take greater risks with greater profit or loss then bitcoin is the choice
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August 20, 2018, 02:22:13 PM
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Bitcoins can be called the million dollar market as many changed their lives to richness through investing in bitcoins. Bitcoins has good potential to grow even higher than $ 50000 USD soon where as if you invest in real estate business it will many years to get good profits from investing on real estate but cannot reach up to bitcoin investing gains.
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August 20, 2018, 02:52:13 PM
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I think investing real-estate is still better than bitcoin. This is because Real-estate has been predicted not to die and even increase its value in the future.
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I think investing real-estate is still better than bitcoin. This is because Real-estate has been predicted not to die and even increase its value in the future.
you're right, it's just that, some people like me try to use bitcoin, or altcoin to make real esetate bigger. Well, we know that the velocity of money on real estate is slow, but that is a very good investment for the future.

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August 23, 2018, 04:20:32 PM
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in terms of security and profit certainty, I chose real estate investment, but if you dare to take greater risks with greater profit or loss then bitcoin is the choice
Well if you are feeling safe to invest in real estate then you can go for it but as according to me it is not good to invest your money anywhere else than bitcoin, if we look at the growth of investment in that matter I think bitcoin is unbeatable as nothing makes profit bigger than bitcoin, for me only choice I am happy to choose is bitcoin, after that saving I will be able to buy a lot of estates.

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August 23, 2018, 04:25:27 PM
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Bitcoin chart is going up and down some times I am thinking maybe I should invest part of my BTC (at least the part of the profit  I’ve made on crypto) into something real?!
Let’s say I can buy share of real estate company and get the part of profit (50-100% per Year).
  
Should I
                Spend all my BTC on that shares?
                Spend small (profit) part?
                Or just do nothing and wait?

Huh?!

I’ll do appreciate for answers with any suggestions and recommendations!

In making investment with real estate, you need a high capital while in making investment with bitcoins; small capital is enough to start investment. There are a lot of differences in making investment between real estate and bitcoin like risks and opportunities.

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August 23, 2018, 05:21:01 PM
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Everyone decides for himself what to invest to. I think most people invest in real estate and this is a good decision. If you know much about trading, then you can try your luck , buy bitcoin and control the market Smiley Smiley
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September 11, 2018, 06:15:59 PM
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Select both is a good thing, if we have big finances then putting money into many places of investment is a good thing, and now there are many options for investments that make us selective, and the presence of bitcoin can be a great choice to make money growing faster.
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September 13, 2018, 12:32:30 PM
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Starting real estates from the scratch needs some monumental efforts unlike bitcoin. You can start with as little as $100 and still have a good short at bitcoin investment. I doubt you can do same with real estate investment.
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September 13, 2018, 12:45:03 PM
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Investing in bitcoin has more risks than investing in real estate, but you can earn more in bitcoin if you have good knowledge and patience.


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September 13, 2018, 01:28:05 PM
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If I have enough I'll go for both investments: Bitcoin and Real Estate. You can start bitcoin with just a little amount and you can have real estate investment also with higher profits. Since I can't afford in Real Estate investment, so I'll go with bitcoin and other digital currency investment.
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September 13, 2018, 01:42:41 PM
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I love to invest in real estate property and if only have that money i should choose to invest on property. Practicality since property will not be taken away from you especially if you have the documents being transferred on your name after investing on it. However, i am not that rich so i should make.more money here in bitcoin investment and will buy property next.
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September 13, 2018, 02:14:17 PM
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What you want to do, I have applied for a long time. I bought Gold from my work at this Cryptocurrency. Even though real estate investment cannot provide benefits like Bitcoin, I think investing in Gold and Land Real estate is much safer than Bitcoin.
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September 13, 2018, 02:14:53 PM
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if I can choose, I would agree if we buy a small portion of Cripto profits to buy assets or shares in the real world, in anticipation, however in life we have to have reserves, the absence of cripto guarantees can last a long time and continue to give us profit a little on guard, after all it doesn't hurt that we spend it not the capital used so it won't interfere with our investment in the crypto world
Playing safe n chosing between investments will not guarantee you to get a profitable investment. Most of the time for those who really invest in cryptocurrency or in real estate property and taking its risk are more victorious on the investment. One should have a sweet success on chosing the way he wanted to have and endure the pain. The following choices are good for profitable investments.
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