Smoothie's attacks the Litecoin Foundation.

[El Cabron]

@ Goat,

Perhaps you should address these concerns on the Litecoin forum concerning "The Litecoin Foundation":


https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,997.msg39610.html#msg39610

So what is the current status of this "Litecoin Foundation"? Is it incorporated somewhere as a non-profit org? If so, where is the paperwork for us to examine?

Legally a foundation is a non-profit entity so you can't start a for-profit business and call it a foundation (at least not in any country where the rule of law applies). If this "foundation" is actually a for-profit business then it is 100% a scam designed to confuse people into lining someone's pockets in the mistaken belief that they are helping out some sort of charity dedicated to promoting and enhancing Litecoin.

If that is the case this "foundation" is actually hurting LTC and this business should not only be banned from promoting anything on these forums but should be actively denounced by the LTC community for what it is.

I bring this up as there is no real information here on the so-called "Litecoin Foundation" yet there is another thread where they are looking to sell physical Litecoin coins. Where is this money (received from the sale of the coins) going and what is it being spent on?

As well as others in that thread. Its been over 2 months and you (The Litecoin Foundation) have not addressed these concerns.

Thanks in advance for addressing their concerns.

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[smoothie]

It's not an attack by linking ACTUAL community members' concerns regarding the Litecoin Foundation.

Your lack of addressing those concerns is alarming. I've been unbiased and have not commented on whether or not your entity is indeed a scam. At the same time you not addressing the concerns is somewhat of an issue in the eyes of the community, not by me, but by actual members of the Litecoin forum and community.

Let's get that straight. Thanks.

[smoothie]

https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,997.msg49989.html#msg49989

[smoothie]

Smoothie went off topic in a different thread and I do not want to derail it so I will respond here. If this should go in a different sub-forum mods please move it.

Smoothie is a well known troll and the author of this attack thread thread here... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119490.100

Smoothie also is making a product that competes with a coin I am producing so he has everything to gain from attacking me and LTC at large if it will make him money.

This is not the first attack on the Litecoin Foundation and it will not be the last. However to clear a few things up I will do so. I'm limited in what I can say but I can talk about what is known to be public knowledge.

Smoothie seems to hint that the Litecoin foundation has committed fraud. This is silly as the Litecoin Foundation has never received nor asked for donations. The Litecoin Foundation has never sold anything. In fact the only four public actions of the Litecoin Foundation have been:

1. Help get rid of Greedi
2. 2,000 LTC donation to the LTC project aka LTC Dev fund. (No strings attached)
3. 200 LTC donation to the LTC Association. (no strings attached other than for them to ask for more LTC when they need it)
4. A significant loan to me (Goat) to make a physical litecoin that correctly reflects the production costs. They felt it unjust that Smoothie was charging such a high amount for the coins. A few of them also feared that Smoothie was keeping a back up of the keys so he could steal the LTC later. This would have a significant bad effect on the image of LTC and smoothie being a well known troll and nothing else it seemed logical. The reason why I was trusted is because of my significant holdings of LTC and they assumed that I (goat) would not harm the image of LTC for such a relatively small amount of coin. Please note the production of the coin is not being done by the LTC foundation but by me personally and a few member of the community. The end result of the coin should not be a reflection of the Litecoin Foundation but of my work. The loan has already been paid back in full. 

Suggesting that we have defrauded anyone is just silly. The only people we could have even potentially defrauded would be our own members. They are welcome to complain if they feel that is the case.

We are not the same as the BTC foundation. Our goal is to protect LTC. We formed in a dark time for LTC and we were able to accomplish our goals. We are very happy with the Litecoin Project and the Litecoin Association. We hope that they are able to carry on the work and we will jump in when needed. We hope that we will not be needed any time soon.

[smoothie]

Goat I am a free-market type of guy. If you want to create physical litecoins. That is okay with me. I have no problem as you are suggesting I have with your venture.

Your lack of addressing those issues in this thread (https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,997.msg39610.html#msg39610) is on you, not me. I've merely just tried to get some form of communication moving given you so thoughtfully attempted to put the same standards on Dobzombie today in the other thread you created.

Attacking me by claiming that I have attacked the Litecoin Foundation only makes you look silly as you have no evidence to backup your claim.

Everything is out in the open on that.

[smoothie]

You posted your attack in a thread and you knew it was off topic. I took the time and responded to you in the correct place, a new thread.

You are welcome.

Hardly an "attack" as you claim.

You do like to play the victim often, huh?

It's actually amusing that you try to do that as often as you do. It makes me laugh, honestly.  

[Atruk]

You posted your attack in a thread and you knew it was off topic. I took the time and responded to you in the correct place, a new thread.

You are welcome.

Hardly an "attack" as you claim.

You do like to play the victim often, huh?

It's actually amusing that you try to do that as often as you do. It makes me laugh, honestly.  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119490.0

I'm going to guess this was also not a personal attack? A whole thread of personal attacks? I guess I am just playing the victim 

Keep it up, you are one class act.

You two are still playing footsies?

On one hand there is smoothie who has been a troll at times to understate things. On the other there is Goat who shilled for Pirateat40 and continues to shill for Garr, the would be auction scammer.

I care little for litcoins or foundations. Reading this though smoothie has merely been a pain in people's asses. on the other hand Goat has shilled for scams. May the wisdom, or lack thereof of the crowd pick a weiner.

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[Atruk]

Shill eh? Yeah I made a bad investment with Pirate. I paid a huge price for that. I also covered all of my debts and did not run away.

Shill for Garr? lol. Just cuz I am open about where I place my BTC does not mean you should do it too. I have never told anyone to invest in Garr. Yeah, I might lose everything I invested with him but that is my risk, not yours.

Also I had left smoothie alone for half a year. He jumped in on a different thread and started posting off topic stuff. To get to shut up in that thread I made this one. I really wish he would just put me on ignore, would be better for the whole community.

Thanks.

It is a start, but at least you are learning.

[jasinlee]

Clueless Morgan strikes again!

[smoothie]

You posted your attack in a thread and you knew it was off topic. I took the time and responded to you in the correct place, a new thread.

You are welcome.

Hardly an "attack" as you claim.

You do like to play the victim often, huh?

It's actually amusing that you try to do that as often as you do. It makes me laugh, honestly.  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119490.0

I'm going to guess this was also not a personal attack? A whole thread of personal attacks? I guess I am just playing the victim  

Keep it up, you are one class act.

Okay so I presume you want to rabbit trail?

Let's discuss your pirate ponzi pass-through where you operated as an associate to help Pirate's so called "trust" that ultimately scam many users out of 10's of thousands of BTC.

Of course you will claim you lost BTC in that debacle as well. But didn't you get a cut for your "services" of merely sending bitcoins to Pirateat40? Hence how is that your wealth you "lost"?

Just because you weren't the mastermind there does not make you completely innocent. But of course you will believe so, it's human nature.

You're not the only one that can keep diverting attention when a topic gets addressed.

In any case please keep playing the victim, it suits you.

[smoothie]

Clueless Morgan strikes again!

Ha, I wonder which one is me and which one is smoothie  

  Haha you wish you could claim that to be true.

Sorry i'm not that dumb to fall for such a scheme that Pirateat40 ran. You are another story though. 

[Atruk]

Shill eh? Yeah I made a bad investment with Pirate. I paid a huge price for that. I also covered all of my debts and did not run away.

Shill for Garr? lol. Just cuz I am open about where I place my BTC does not mean you should do it too. I have never told anyone to invest in Garr. Yeah, I might lose everything I invested with him but that is my risk, not yours.

Also I had left smoothie alone for half a year. He jumped in on a different thread and started posting off topic stuff. To get to shut up in that thread I made this one. I really wish he would just put me on ignore, would be better for the whole community.

Thanks.

It is a start, but at least you are learning.

I have been caught up in just about every scam out there. It sucks hard trust me.

Eh, some people read more than others. Hell, some people even gamble better than others.

You and smoothie both seem to love Litecoin. Maybe you can see a marriage counselor or divorce lawyer together?

[Atruk]

Shill eh? Yeah I made a bad investment with Pirate. I paid a huge price for that. I also covered all of my debts and did not run away.

Shill for Garr? lol. Just cuz I am open about where I place my BTC does not mean you should do it too. I have never told anyone to invest in Garr. Yeah, I might lose everything I invested with him but that is my risk, not yours.

Also I had left smoothie alone for half a year. He jumped in on a different thread and started posting off topic stuff. To get to shut up in that thread I made this one. I really wish he would just put me on ignore, would be better for the whole community.

Thanks.

It is a start, but at least you are learning.

I have been caught up in just about every scam out there. It sucks hard trust me.

Eh, some people read more than others. Hell, some people even gamble better than others.

You and smoothie both seem to love Litecoin. Maybe you can see a marriage counselor or divorce lawyer together?

I thought we had an understanding where he would just leave me alone. He broke that today in this thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=313116.0

He likes the attacks as you know. I would be fine if he would just stop but you know him.

Of course, but...

You have to understand that his reputation is rather clean other than that trolling business and you are still rebuilding. It could be worse. You could be Amir or Jay Shore.

[mufa23]

Yeah, forgive my french, but fuck smoothie. I added him to my ignore list a long time ago. I bet it pisses him off whenever I mention it. And I bet he's gonna pounce on me and quote some lame-ass media meme. He's a waste, and doesn't contribute to anything. Perhaps he's one of those kissless virgin fuckups that gets off at getting people mad. Goat, just hit the ignore button to all those that piss you off. You'll be a much happier man.

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[smoothie]

Wow so much hate in this thread. Where is the love?

Didn't realize posting a link to address community concerns was such a big deal. Someone seems touchy. 

[smoothie]

Wow so much hate in this thread. Where is the love?

Didn't realize posting a link to address community concerns was such a big deal. Someone seems touchy.  

Yes, we are the ones with the problem.  

Obviously the OP of this thread has one. Don't know about anyone else.  

[Atruk]

He keeps going on in this one too.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=312732.0


Yet he has to have his threads moderated. Honestly anyone who trusts this guy is almost asking to be scammed.

Well, the historical record and you own pain show trusting people you trust can be at least as painful.

[Chuck Finley]

LOL @ "THE LITECOIN FOUNDATION"

I asked some basic but fundamental questions about "The Litecoin Foundation" over TWO AND A HALF MONTHS AGO.

Goat has not answered and continues to ignore these questions. This only further reinforces the appearance that "The Litecoin Foundation" is nothing more than a scam designed to trick unsuspecting users into paying for physical Litecoins under the guise of a "foundation" that is really a for-profit business and not a "foundation" at all.

Instead he comes to the Bitcoin forums to cry like a baby because he doesn't like some posts Smoothie made whining that his reputation has been damaged. The "funny" part is that goat does far more damage to his own reputation than anyone else does by acting like some sort of scam-artist and then passing up opportunities to tell his side of the story and clear the air.

[Raoul Duke]

Where is The Litecoin  Foundation registered? La-la-land?