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SECURING THE WORLD'S BLOCKCHAINS USING BITCOIN


After Nearly Three Years of Development, We're Thrilled
to Announce the VeriBlock Blockchain Testnet!



The VeriBlock Blockchain Extends Bitcoin's Full
Proof-of-Work Security to Every Blockchain in the World
Using our Novel Proof-of-Proof (PoP) Consensus Protocol
In the Most Cost-Effective, Secure, and Easy-To-Use Manner.




NOTE: The software available for download below is for the VeriBlock testnet blockchain.
The network (and all address balances) will be reset prior to official mainnet launch.




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LATEST ANNOUNCEMENTS
March 15, 2018: VeriBlock Testnet Launched at Tokenfest!


TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS
Name: VeriBlock
Symbol: VBK
Security Inheritance Protocol: Proof-of-Proof (PoP) Mining
Block Generation Protocol: Proof-of-Work (PoW) Mining w/ vBlake
Signature Algorithm: ECDSA (secp256k1 curve)
Block Time: 2 Minutes
P2P Port: 6500
RPC Port: 10500



Download VeriBlock Core Software: Github







About VeriBlock
VeriBlock serves as the world's first blockchain which allows every blockchain in the world to inherit the full Proof-of-Work security of Bitcoin in a completely decentralized, trustless, transparent, and permissionless (or "DTTP") manner. The VeriBlock blockchain is built 100% from scratch, and has been engineered from the ground up to provide the most cost-effective, secure, and easy-to-use way for the world's blockchains to enjoy the unparalleled immutability of Bitcoin itself.


About Proof-of-Proof (PoP)
Proof-of-Proof is a novel consensus protocol invented by VeriBlock, Inc. which allows any blockchain (including sidechains and permissioned ledgers) to inherit the full security of Bitcoin in a truly decentralized, trustless, transparent, and permissionless (or "DTTP") manner.

It does so by gamifying the publication of data representing a blockchain's present state to Bitcoin (directly or indirectly) such that any user can participate and receive compensation for enabling blockchains to inherit Bitcoin's security. If you'd like to dive into the technical details, please check out our whitepaper.


DTTP
DTTP stands for Decentralized, Trustless, Transparent, and Permissionless; the core attributes which allow Bitcoin to achieve true security. We designed the VeriBlock blockchain and the Proof-of-Proof protocol with strict adherence to the properties which made Bitcoin what it is today, and believe that for any blockchain to truly inherit Bitcoin's security, it must do so in the same manner.


How is VeriBlock Mined?
The VeriBlock blockchain is mined in two different ways: PoW and PoP mining. PoW miners are responsible for creating the blocks, providing the blockchain with intermediate consensus, and providing blockchains inheriting security through VeriBlock with a PoW-powered first line of defense.

PoP miners are responsible for publishing a representation of the current state of the VeriBlock blockchain (and by proxy, all blockchains secured by VeriBlock) to Bitcoin in a fully DTTP manner.


How does VeriBlock Help Blockchains?
The use of Proof-of-Proof through the VeriBlock ecosystem enables any blockchain to inherit the consensus security of Bitcoin in a way which makes consensus attacks (rewriting agreed-upon history to perform attacks like double-spends) far harder to execute. This additional security significantly increases trust, allowing the blockchain's token to be listed on more exchanges, reduce confirmation waiting times for existing exchanges, and participate in fiat markets, due to the drastically reduced risk of consensus-related token theft. Consumers now have more confidence in the blockchain, and the project's developers can focus on creating a rich feature profile rather than inventing and implementing exotic and untested security mechanisms.


How does VeriBlock Help Exchanges and Merchants?
Due to the proliferation of secure blockchains, exchanges and merchants can list coins from more blockchains while generally requiring fewer confirmations, due to their dramatically reduced risk of double-spends.


How does VeriBlock Help Bitcoin?
PoP miners securing the VeriBlock blockchain spend Bitcoin to publish information regarding VeriBlock's present state, thereby increasing buy pressure for the Bitcoin coin while paying Bitcoin miners higher fees. VeriBlock also gives Bitcoin's PoW an eco-friendly image because it's PoW can be reused to secure a limitless number of blockchains.


How Hard is it to Attack a Blockchain Secured by VeriBlock?
Once a given block on a VeriBlock-secured blockchain reaches full security (after a period of time dependent on the aggression of the weighting algorithm employed by the blockchain and the absence of conflicting data, which is seen in real time), reversing consensus on that block would require forking Bitcoin, VeriBlock, and the VeriBlock-secured blockchain simultaneously.


How is VeriBlock Different From Sidechains/Drivechain?
VeriBlock Proof-of-Proof is a complementary technology to sidechains/Drivechain. Provided a sufficient security budget, a sidechain can adopt VeriBlock consensus technology just like any other public blockchain.


Why does VeriBlock Require a Coin?
The VeriBlock blockchain provides an aggregation layer of proof, and its coin provides a means for paying the decentralized VeriBlock PoW and PoP miners in a way controlled completely by the VeriBlock blockchain protocol. As such, the VeriBlock coin serves as a price discovery mechanism that allows the efficient allocation of the scare resource of proof, allowing all blockchains to inherit Bitcoin's PoW security.


What is Required for Proof-of-Proof Mining?
In order to earn VeriBlock testnet coins for PoP mining, you will need a running instance of Bitcoin Testnet (Mainnet VeriBlock will require Mainnet Bitcoin), with an address containing a positive Bitcoin balance. In addition, you will need the free VeriBlock Core Software (NodeCore, the CLI, and the PoP Miner).


What is Required for Proof-of-Work Mining?
In order to earn VeriBlock testnet coins for PoW mining, you will need a computer with unused CPU (or later, GPU) power. In addition, you will need the free VeriBlock Core Software (NodeCore, the CLI, and the PoW Miner).


What is vBlake?
vBlake is the Proof-of-Work hashing algorithm used by the VeriBlock blockchain. It is a tweaked version of BLAKE2b optimized for use as a PoW algorithm.


Note: This project is not related to VeriCoin/Verium.

VeriBlock: Securing The World's Blockchains Using Bitcoin
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Everyone please note: this is a testnet launch of VeriBlock; the coins on this network are not meant to be of any value. This is for community testing and feedback, the actual Mainnet VeriBlock network will launch in the future. Smiley

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Is this official thread?  What was wrong with the first one, why did you decide you needed a self-moderated thread instead?

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How do we mine this?

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How do we mine this?

They answered this question in the original post.

Cpu/gpu along with the VeriBlock Core Software (NodeCore, the CLI, and the PoW Miner).
Modified blake2b algo (vblake2b)
Testnet ONLY right now, mainnet in the future.
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How do we mine this?

They answered this question in the original post.

Cpu/gpu along with the VeriBlock Core Software (NodeCore, the CLI, and the PoW Miner).
Modified blake2b algo (vblake2b)
Testnet ONLY right now, mainnet in the future.

So asic. No point to mine with cpu/gpu...

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How do we mine this?

They answered this question in the original post.

Cpu/gpu along with the VeriBlock Core Software (NodeCore, the CLI, and the PoW Miner).
Modified blake2b algo (vblake2b)
Testnet ONLY right now, mainnet in the future.

So asic. No point to mine with cpu/gpu...

Will the blake2b asics work on this modified version of the algo?
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SECURING THE WORLD'S BLOCKCHAINS USING BITCOIN

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What is Required for Proof-of-Work Mining?
In order to earn VeriBlock testnet coins for PoW mining, you will need a computer with unused CPU (or later, GPU) power. In addition, you will need the free VeriBlock Core Software (NodeCore, the CLI, and the PoW Miner).


What is vBlake?
vBlake is the Proof-of-Work hashing algorithm used by the VeriBlock blockchain. It is a tweaked version of BLAKE2b optimized for use as a PoW algorithm.




Not sure what optimizations the vBlake is meant to have, but if it is Asic mineable, then you might want to remove the reference to CPU/GPU in the "What is Required for POW"

Will be watching this ANN
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Interesting project,I goin to give a try to the testnet. Smiley

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Watching this thread, looks cool

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Hello .
Ccminer support Signature Algorithm: ECDSA (secp256k1 curve) Huh
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Plz add discord sns
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Algorithm: ECDSA (secp256k1 curve)
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Algorithm: ECDSA (secp256k1 curve)

Is it possible to mine with GPU?

it's first time to hear New algorithm..
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will be watching and waiting for the mainnet   Grin
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Looks like I see a new coin here with an new type algo. It's on my watchboard now.

Does this coin have something to do with vericoin?

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Ok, started reading through the whitepaper, and have some questions. Before I raise them however, given this is a new consensus protocol, it might be best to present a simple example using imaginary coins and people, so that we can all visualize how this works.

Now the questions:

1. If I understand this correctly, every PoP miner would need to transact on the BTC network and embed in their transaction the entire block header of the SI chain, which is being mined by the PoW miners. The two issues I see are a) You are asking PoP miners to pay BTC transaction fees, b) It becomes a race of who does it first so some PoP miners might opt to pay higher fees for their transaction to be mined first and c) The financial incentive would need to be significant for a PoP miner to do so, and cover the BTC fees

2. While you are saying that it would not be practical for someone who forks the BTC chain to take over (re-write) the SI chain, considering that the SI chain would probably be made up of a small amount of hashing power (otherwise, why would you need the hashing power of BTC), and there would already be large pools in play, all they would need to do is also fork the SI chain and provide a solution for the next block faster.

Generally, chapter 6 which deals with #2 above reads very weak, there seems to be some wishful thinking and statements along the lines of "As such, anyone watching the SP blockchain would see what block(s) are at risk for the fork, how much stronger (or weaker) the current chain is compared to the adversarial party’s chain, and could potentially use some means (like balance-based voting) to invalidate the adversarial chain before it is released to the network." don't inspire confidence.

It is ok if you haven't figured everything out yet, be upfront and work with the community. Right now this seems like an overcomplicated solution looking for problem though.

Don't mean to sound critical, and apologies if I have misunderstood anything.
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Ok, started reading through the whitepaper, and have some questions. Before I raise them however, given this is a new consensus protocol, it might be best to present a simple example using imaginary coins and people, so that we can all visualize how this works.

Now the questions:

1. If I understand this correctly, every PoP miner would need to transact on the BTC network and embed in their transaction the entire block header of the SI chain, which is being mined by the PoW miners. The two issues I see are a) You are asking PoP miners to pay BTC transaction fees, b) It becomes a race of who does it first so some PoP miners might opt to pay higher fees for their transaction to be mined first and c) The financial incentive would need to be significant for a PoP miner to do so, and cover the BTC fees

2. While you are saying that it would not be practical for someone who forks the BTC chain to take over (re-write) the SI chain, considering that the SI chain would probably be made up of a small amount of hashing power (otherwise, why would you need the hashing power of BTC), and there would already be large pools in play, all they would need to do is also fork the SI chain and provide a solution for the next block faster.

Generally, chapter 6 which deals with #2 above reads very weak, there seems to be some wishful thinking and statements along the lines of "As such, anyone watching the SP blockchain would see what block(s) are at risk for the fork, how much stronger (or weaker) the current chain is compared to the adversarial party’s chain, and could potentially use some means (like balance-based voting) to invalidate the adversarial chain before it is released to the network." don't inspire confidence.

It is ok if you haven't figured everything out yet, be upfront and work with the community. Right now this seems like an overcomplicated solution looking for problem though.

Don't mean to sound critical, and apologies if I have misunderstood anything.

Hey Aris, thanks for taking a look at the whitepaper! For clarification, the PoP whitepaper describes the consensus protocol itself, not specifically the utility of the VeriBlock blockchain (except in a short aside near the end), so my example case is going to speak below about the most simple PoP implementation for clarity: one blockchain securing directly to Bitcoin, without using the VeriBlock blockchain as an intermediate aggregation layer. However, I get into the utility of the VeriBlock blockchain as well later in the post.

For your inquiry about an example case with fictitious coins and people:
Say you launch ArisCoin tomorrow (for simplicity, say it's a PoW blockchain with a 10 minute blocktime), and you use PoP to secure to Bitcoin (directly, in the simplified case).

Your PoW miners bundle transactions on the network into blocks and mine them using traditional PoW, and your PoP miners take the latest 'fingerprint' of ArisCoin (which in the case of a PoW blockchain is the most recent block header), and they publish this block header to Bitcoin (paying a Bitcoin transaction fee). Let's say your total block reward is worth $100 at current market value, and you dedicate 20% of the block reward to PoP miners. This means that, every block, your network pays $20 to PoP miners collectively. Similar to how PoW provides a total bounty and many people compete for slices of that reward, so too do PoP miners compete for the total PoP miner reward (and PoP mining can be done in a pool similar to PoW, so we can conclude that the variability risk can be dramatically reduced). Simplistically, if a high-priority Bitcoin transaction costs $4, we would expect slightly less than 5 transactions on average per block of ArisCoin to Bitcoin on behalf of PoP miners (there are more complexities at play here too, which we'll table for brevity).

PoP miners, to receive their reward, must complete a full cycle of PoP mining: they must publish the fingerprint of ArisCoin to Bitcoin, and then (after waiting for a period of time) must construct a proof that they successfully published this data to Bitcoin (Bitcoin transaction including the data, Merkle path to the Merkle root of the containing block, the header of the containing block, and (if required), additional contextual Bitcoin block headers to link the block the PoP miner published data in to the latest Bitcoin block known about by ArisCoin from previous PoP publication data.

Once a PoP miner completes this full cycle, the ArisCoin PoW miners can include the PoP miner's proof-of-publication in their blocks (and can be incentivized to do so in a variety of means). Once these proof-of-publications are included in the blockchain, they can be referenced in the event that a blockchain fork is presented to the network, and the fork resolution algorithm for ArisCoin determines which version of the blockchain's history is valid based on which one has the highest PoP score (which is calculated as a combined metric of the relative timeliness and volume of publications of each fork's blocks in Bitcoin itself). As a result, anyone wanting to make a fork which will be accepted as valid (they can perform a valid double-spend attack) must publish data to Bitcoin in a timely manner (in-step with the building of the "legitimate" or "original" history), thereby announcing their attack to the world, and allowing merchants/exchanges/users to respond by simply waiting until they can see with mathematical certainty that the state of the forking blockchain has been abandoned according to its presence in the Bitcoin blockchain (in other words, its presence in Bitcoin is not sufficient for it to be accepted as a more valid history than the history the exchange/merchant/user is currently aware of).

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1. If I understand this correctly, every PoP miner would need to transact on the BTC network and embed in their transaction the entire block header of the SI chain, which is being mined by the PoW miners. The two issues I see are a) You are asking PoP miners to pay BTC transaction fees, b) It becomes a race of who does it first so some PoP miners might opt to pay higher fees for their transaction to be mined first and c) The financial incentive would need to be significant for a PoP miner to do so, and cover the BTC fees

PoP miners need to transact on the BTC network if they are securing a blockchain directly to Bitcoin. If the security-inheriting blockchain pays (at current exchange rates) $x to PoP miners per block and Bitcoin transaction fees are $y, then we expect on average for slightly less than y/x Bitcoin transactions to be done by PoP miners on behalf of the blockchain they're securing per block. If a blockchain is secured to VeriBlock, then PoP miners of that blockchain need to transact on the VBK network, and similar math applies, although in general VeriBlock will have far lower per-transaction fees because it has more space for PoP transactions, PoP transactions can be much smaller on VeriBlock than on Bitcoin, and PoP transactions on VBK aren't competing with as many use cases as they are on Bitcoin. If a PoP miner expects to spend $x to earn $y on average, and y>x, then the incentive model functions correctly. and if y<=x, then some PoP miners will stop PoP mining, and y will quickly become bigger than x again.

Part of the mining process is competitive behavior in the Bitcoin fee market; similar to how a PoW miner who buys higher performance hardware has a higher chance of mining a block, a PoP miner who pays a higher fee has a higher chance of claiming a portion of the PoP reward for the  block they secure.


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2. While you are saying that it would not be practical for someone who forks the BTC chain to take over (re-write) the SI chain, considering that the SI chain would probably be made up of a small amount of hashing power (otherwise, why would you need the hashing power of BTC), and there would already be large pools in play, all they would need to do is also fork the SI chain and provide a solution for the next block faster.

To clarify, are you referring to the following section of the whitepaper:
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In the event that an adversarial party successfully forks the SP blockchain, they can re-write the forked SP blockchain blocks with new PoP data, enabling them to produce a SI blockchain with a higher PoP weight. The amount/length (measured in real-world time, not blocks) of the SI blockchain they are able to rewrite is approximately equal to the distance they successfully fork the SP blockchain for.
Note that a fork of the SP blockchain without specific intention to fork the SI blockchain won’t result in a SI blockchain fork. However, such a reorganization of the SP blockchain will cause the SI blockchain’s PoP mining transactions which occurred in the forked SP blockchain blocks to no longer exist in the SP blockchain, and thus hold no weight.

If so, this is referring to the fact that, even *if* the security-providing blockchain is forked, this doesn't necessarily mean that the security-inheriting blockchains are forked. For example, if 100 blockchains all secured with PoP to "SecureChain" (a generic high-security PoW blockchain, such as Bitcoin) and SecureChain suffered a PoW reorganization for a significant depth (say, 6 blocks), this doesn't directly cause those 100 blockchains to also reorganize at all. They still have their own native security in this instance, so the adversary who forked SecureChain would have to also perform the work required to override the intermediate consensus algorithms of any of those 100 blockchains that they also want to reorganize. While the security profile of these 100 blockchains is that, to fork them beyond a certain depth would require also forking SecureChain itself, simply the difficult act of forking SecureChain doesn't fork those blockchains without additional extra effort being spent on each blockchain the attacker wishes to manipulate.


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Generally, chapter 6 which deals with #2 above reads very weak, there seems to be some wishful thinking and statements along the lines of "As such, anyone watching the SP blockchain would see what block(s) are at risk for the fork, how much stronger (or weaker) the current chain is compared to the adversarial party’s chain, and could potentially use some means (like balance-based voting) to invalidate the adversarial chain before it is released to the network." don't inspire confidence.

Normally, the security against double-spend attacks comes from the ability of exchanges/merchants/users to see in real-time whether there is a potential pending fork brewing for the security-inheriting blockchain in question: for an attacker to propose a potential fork later, they have to include fingerprints of their attacking chain in the security-providing blockchain in a timely fashion relative to the publications of the "legitimate" chain, thereby announcing their fork to the world. These exchanges/merchants/users now simply wait until they get mathematically sound confirmation that the purported attacking chain has withered away (is no longer being published in a timely fashion relative to the "legitimate" chain). Assuming exchanges/merchants/users listen to the available security metrics, this downgrades the potential for a forking attack which doesn't fork the security-providing blockchain itself from being able to perform a double-spend to simply delaying confirmation of transactions on the network while the security issue resolves itself.

The statement that some kind of voting mechanism may be employed to invalidate a chain is in reference to a blockchain, if it so chooses, to allow users on the "legitimate" chain to vote with their balances (or some other resource) that the brewing "illegitimate" chain should not be accepted. This is not an important/required part of the PoP consensus protocol, but simply a potential direction for adoption of PoP by some systems to explore (the VeriBlock blockchain itself will not implement this, and we don't plan to recommend such a voting system to be used on any other blockchain using PoP through VeriBlock). I'll look into updating the PoP whitepaper to make this clear.



Thanks for looking into the tech behind PoP! If you have any other questions or if the above answers didn't completely address your questions, I'd love to continue the conversation Smiley

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I would like to consider purchasing after thinking carefully, Thank you for the information
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Hi Dev! tell me what I'm doing wrong?

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Interesting Project and can you explain a bit more about how PoP is going to works?
Since this is my first time heard about PoP

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Hi Dev! tell me what I'm doing wrong?

Hi albanes, you have to type "connect 127.0.0.1:10500" first to connect to your local instance of NodeCore, and then you can run "getinfo" and other commands (which can be viewed by typing "help" after you connect).

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Interesting Project and can you explain a bit more about how PoP is going to works?
Since this is my first time heard about PoP

Here is a brief example explanation from earlier, using 'ArisCoin' (a fictitious coin) as a blockchain secured using PoP directly to Bitcoin (simplified, not benefitting from VeriBlock's offer of improved PoW security in an easier-to-implement package in a more cost-effective manner):
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Say you launch ArisCoin tomorrow (for simplicity, say it's a PoW blockchain with a 10 minute blocktime), and you use PoP to secure to Bitcoin (directly, in the simplified case).

Your PoW miners bundle transactions on the network into blocks and mine them using traditional PoW, and your PoP miners take the latest 'fingerprint' of ArisCoin (which in the case of a PoW blockchain is the most recent block header), and they publish this block header to Bitcoin (paying a Bitcoin transaction fee). Let's say your total block reward is worth $100 at current market value, and you dedicate 20% of the block reward to PoP miners. This means that, every block, your network pays $20 to PoP miners collectively. Similar to how PoW provides a total bounty and many people compete for slices of that reward, so too do PoP miners compete for the total PoP miner reward (and PoP mining can be done in a pool similar to PoW, so we can conclude that the variability risk can be dramatically reduced). Simplistically, if a high-priority Bitcoin transaction costs $4, we would expect slightly less than 5 transactions on average per block of ArisCoin to Bitcoin on behalf of PoP miners (there are more complexities at play here too, which we'll table for brevity).

PoP miners, to receive their reward, must complete a full cycle of PoP mining: they must publish the fingerprint of ArisCoin to Bitcoin, and then (after waiting for a period of time) must construct a proof that they successfully published this data to Bitcoin (Bitcoin transaction including the data, Merkle path to the Merkle root of the containing block, the header of the containing block, and (if required), additional contextual Bitcoin block headers to link the block the PoP miner published data in to the latest Bitcoin block known about by ArisCoin from previous PoP publication data.

Once a PoP miner completes this full cycle, the ArisCoin PoW miners can include the PoP miner's proof-of-publication in their blocks (and can be incentivized to do so in a variety of means). Once these proof-of-publications are included in the blockchain, they can be referenced in the event that a blockchain fork is presented to the network, and the fork resolution algorithm for ArisCoin determines which version of the blockchain's history is valid based on which one has the highest PoP score (which is calculated as a combined metric of the relative timeliness and volume of publications of each fork's blocks in Bitcoin itself). As a result, anyone wanting to make a fork which will be accepted as valid (they can perform a valid double-spend attack) must publish data to Bitcoin in a timely manner (in-step with the building of the "legitimate" or "original" history), thereby announcing their attack to the world, and allowing merchants/exchanges/users to respond by simply waiting until they can see with mathematical certainty that the state of the forking blockchain has been abandoned according to its presence in the Bitcoin blockchain (in other words, its presence in Bitcoin is not sufficient for it to be accepted as a more valid history than the history the exchange/merchant/user is currently aware of).

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How do we mine this?

They answered this question in the original post.

Cpu/gpu along with the VeriBlock Core Software (NodeCore, the CLI, and the PoW Miner).
Modified blake2b algo (vblake2b)
Testnet ONLY right now, mainnet in the future.

So asic. No point to mine with cpu/gpu...

It is possible for an ASIC to be created for vBlake, but at the moment (and on launch of Mainnet, and for a while thereafter), the only way to mine will be with a GPU (or a CPU at lower efficiency), as no ASIC will have been created yet.

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How do we mine this?

They answered this question in the original post.

Cpu/gpu along with the VeriBlock Core Software (NodeCore, the CLI, and the PoW Miner).
Modified blake2b algo (vblake2b)
Testnet ONLY right now, mainnet in the future.

So asic. No point to mine with cpu/gpu...

Will the blake2b asics work on this modified version of the algo?

No, new ASICs will need to be created, although a lot of the preliminary work in designing the BLAKE2b ASICs may be able to be reused in creating vBlake ASIC chips.

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Algorithm: ECDSA (secp256k1 curve)

Is it possible to mine with GPU?

it's first time to hear New algorithm..

The mining algorithm itself is vBlake (which is also new, and will be mineable with GPUs once we launch our mainnet). ECDSA is our signature algorithm, which is not related to PoW or PoP mining.

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VeriInteresting coin.
When official mainnet launch ?

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Dev tell me why so ??

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This looks like a decent project; leaving a comment so I don't forget to read up later on  Smiley

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I'm mining on the testnet now. I want to know is there any airdrop for the testnet mining participants. After all, we are people who support the project from beginning. By the way, I can provide Chinese translation. Please PM me if you need Chinese translation. Smiley

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Dev tell me why so ??

Hi albanes, looks like your instance of Nodecore ran into a hiccup. If you could zip up your nodecore folder and send it to me, I can figure out what went wrong.

Thanks!

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There are no nodecore zip files available on the github page, only read.md?
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hi
will you premine some coins or it will be a fair launch ?
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need to pay 0.001 btc for make it work ?
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Looks cool. Definitely stands out compared to the majority of new coins coming. Will be watching.
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need to pay 0.001 btc for make it work ?

what do you mean by that ? as far as i know it was a testnet,the balance and everything will be reset in the future
please read it;
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NOTE: The software available for download below is for the VeriBlock testnet blockchain.
The network (and all address balances) will be reset prior to official mainnet launch.

so you do not need to pay anything because it's testnet for Veriblock blockchain.
or i might be wrong in here ?



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This project looks really interesting.
Do you have any est time for main net launch?
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need to pay 0.001 btc for make it work ?

what do you mean by that ? as far as i know it was a testnet,the balance and everything will be reset in the future
please read it;
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NOTE: The software available for download below is for the VeriBlock testnet blockchain.
The network (and all address balances) will be reset prior to official mainnet launch.

so you do not need to pay anything because it's testnet for Veriblock blockchain.
or i might be wrong in here ?





I believe you still need an address with a balance.

@Dev do you have any ETA on the launching of your main net so we can setup our mining pool?

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need to pay 0.001 btc for make it work ?

what do you mean by that ? as far as i know it was a testnet,the balance and everything will be reset in the future
please read it;
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NOTE: The software available for download below is for the VeriBlock testnet blockchain.
The network (and all address balances) will be reset prior to official mainnet launch.

so you do not need to pay anything because it's testnet for Veriblock blockchain.
or i might be wrong in here ?






that was for the step in POW where he say press enter for pay 0.001 btc or Q to exit

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Looks promising project. Try to understand the tech behind. Keep watching and Good luck

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Looks like I see a new coin here with an new type algo. It's on my watchboard now.

Does this coin have something to do with vericoin?

IT DOES NOT.

Cool thing dev but please specify that this has nothing to do with VRC/VRM. Because peoples in slack are gettin pretty confused and just started come over us! Thanks!  Smiley
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will watch more longer Grin

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i will keep this thread. waiting new update for mainnet launching. good luck dev

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Thank you!

To the devs: I've got everything working with a CPU. When will GPU-mining be activated?
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looks interesting, keep sharing updates

discord would be helpful for the community
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Guys now it is testnet. it is useless coins before mainnet Cry  think before you start mine it for long time and profit

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Extraction on the processor is working, it is not clear how pop in the test network to check and extract on video cards.

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There are no nodecore zip files available on the github page, only read.md?

Check out https://github.com/VeriBlock/nodecore-releases/releases and click on the latest .zip "all" release (nodecore-all-testnet-0.1.0.zip)


need to pay 0.001 btc for make it work ?

This is for PoP mining, which is the mechanism by which the VeriBlock blockchain secures itself to the Bitcoin blockchain. VeriBlock testnet is secured to Bitcoin testnet, and anyone can act as a PoP miner on VeriBlock testnet by spending a nominal quantity of testnet Bitcoin coins in order to publish the current state of the VeriBlock testnet blockchain to the Bitcoin testnet blockchain. Right now, Bitcoin testnet transaction fees are incredibly low.

Do not spend any 'real'/mainnet Bitcoin on PoP mining VeriBlock testnet; not only are testnet coins considered to be devoid of value, but testnet VeriBlock tracks the testnet Bitcoin chain rather than the mainnet Bitcoin chain (so PoP transactions done to mainnet Bitcoin on behalf of testnet VeriBlock will not be accepted by VeriBlock testnet anyway).

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need to pay 0.001 btc for make it work ?

what do you mean by that ? as far as i know it was a testnet,the balance and everything will be reset in the future
please read it;
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NOTE: The software available for download below is for the VeriBlock testnet blockchain.
The network (and all address balances) will be reset prior to official mainnet launch.

so you do not need to pay anything because it's testnet for Veriblock blockchain.
or i might be wrong in here ?

Javi is correct in that the VeriBlock blockchain is currently in testnet. However, anyone wanting to test the new consensus feature introduced by VeriBlock (Proof-of-Proof mining) needs to spend testnet Bitcoin (not mainnet Bitcoin) to do PoP mining on behalf of VeriBlock testnet (thereby securing VeriBlock testnet to Bitcoin testnet).


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Did you start a local instance of NodeCore and  type "connect 127.0.0.1:10500" to connect to that local instance first?



Looks like I see a new coin here with an new type algo. It's on my watchboard now.

Does this coin have something to do with vericoin?

IT DOES NOT.

Cool thing dev but please specify that this has nothing to do with VRC/VRM. Because peoples in slack are gettin pretty confused and just started come over us! Thanks!  Smiley

Added a note at the bottom of the ANN about the difference between the VeriBlock and  VeriCoin/Verium projects.




Thank you!

To the devs: I've got everything working with a CPU. When will GPU-mining be activated?

You are currently mining coins on the VeriBlock testnet. Upon release of the VeriBlock mainnet, a GPU miner will be publicly available. Smiley



looks interesting, keep sharing updates

discord would be helpful for the community

Thanks for your interest in VeriBlock! We currently have several social media channels available (check out veriblock.org for the most recent list).



Extraction on the processor is working, it is not clear how pop in the test network to check and extract on video cards.

PoW on VeriBlock behaves similar to PoW on other blockchains; blocks are mined by miners consuming significant computational resources.

PoP, however, is an entirely new form of mining; PoP miners publish the current state of the VeriBlock blockchain to the Bitcoin blockchain (or currently, the state of VeriBlock testnet to Bitcoin testnet), and by doing so earn a mining reward for helping VeriBlock inherit Bitcoin's security.

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Is it basically to solve the issue of a large amount of data on bitcoins using a hybrid PoW and PoP system? Keep an eye on this project.
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NOTE: The software available for download below is for the VeriBlock testnet blockchain.
The network (and all address balances) will be reset prior to official mainnet launch.
WHY people so crazy for air know? Huh

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Looks like I see a new coin here with an new type algo. It's on my watchboard now.

Does this coin have something to do with vericoin?

IT DOES NOT.


Confirmed. VeriBlock (VBK) is a brand new coin.

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Is it basically to solve the issue of a large amount of data on bitcoins using a hybrid PoW and PoP system? Keep an eye on this project.

That's one aspect of the project; by creating a 'tree-of-chains' structure, VeriBlock + PoP enable a large ecosystem of blockchains to proliferate because they can operate with a similar security context as Bitcoin, while 'paying' Bitcoin and its miners for the privilege.


NOTE: The software available for download below is for the VeriBlock testnet blockchain.
The network (and all address balances) will be reset prior to official mainnet launch.
WHY people so crazy for air know? Huh

It's for people who are interested in the technology and/or want to have experience setting up and interacting with VeriBlock prior to it's actual mainnet launch; think of this like a practice run for people who will want to be involved in the mainnet.

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Is it basically to solve the issue of a large amount of data on bitcoins using a hybrid PoW and PoP system? Keep an eye on this project.

That's one aspect of the project; by creating a 'tree-of-chains' structure, VeriBlock + PoP enable a large ecosystem of blockchains to proliferate because they can operate with a similar security context as Bitcoin, while 'paying' Bitcoin and its miners for the privilege.

Dev. it is an interesting project. Just have a discussion about these issues on my post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3138706.0 . It seems your project to give a good solution if demonstrated and accepted by the community.
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DEV YOU CAN SAY WHEN THE BASIC NETWORK WILL BE LAUNCHED?

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March 19, 2018, 04:19:21 AM
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 hope will premine some coins or it will be a fair launch !ill keep my eye on to it
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March 19, 2018, 06:31:15 PM
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Will the coin be minable with antminer A3 ?

"Block Generation Protocol: Proof-of-Work (PoW) Mining w/ vBlake"

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March 19, 2018, 06:45:00 PM
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stands out compared to the majority of new coins coming
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March 19, 2018, 07:13:01 PM
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DEV YOU CAN SAY WHEN THE BASIC NETWORK WILL BE LAUNCHED?

We don't have an exact target date, however the public testing of our Testnet has gone very smoothly so far. We will release the mainnet version of VeriBlock when we are confident that the code performs as expected and that all of the network parameters (reward schedule, incentive structure, blocktime, etc.) are at optimal values. Smiley


Will the coin be minable with antminer A3 ?

"Block Generation Protocol: Proof-of-Work (PoW) Mining w/ vBlake"

No, the Antminer A3 for SIA is for BLAKE2b, whereas vBlake is a modified version of BLAKE2b that introduces additional rounds, even-output-distributed 3-input logic functions, and different rotation values. That being said, a vBlake ASIC is possible to manufacture, and some of the work done in designing a BLAKE2b ASIC can be re-used in designing a vBlake one.

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March 20, 2018, 03:56:17 AM
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DEV YOU CAN SAY WHEN THE BASIC NETWORK WILL BE LAUNCHED?

We don't have an exact target date, however the public testing of our Testnet has gone very smoothly so far. We will release the mainnet version of VeriBlock when we are confident that the code performs as expected and that all of the network parameters (reward schedule, incentive structure, blocktime, etc.) are at optimal values. Smiley

Since the coins from the Testnet do not have any value as wealth except functions of testing, Can I assume that you team do not have any  confidence at your project or your codes because you need limitless time or days to run your program on the Testnet?

Once other people copy your idea and formerly announce a similar project, the community will certainly follow the formerly announced project. We will see who will finally harvest the apples.  Smiley Smiley Smiley
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March 20, 2018, 03:05:19 PM
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Interesting project. Love to follow it.
Discord?
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March 20, 2018, 05:04:31 PM
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Interesting project. Love to follow it.
Discord?

We have telegram set up: https://web.telegram.org/#/im?p=@VeriBlock

https://veriblock.org
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March 21, 2018, 04:59:26 AM
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When mainnet start?
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March 21, 2018, 07:22:00 AM
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When mainnet start?

Dev did not answer my questions. It looks not very confident at this moment.  Smiley
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March 22, 2018, 12:15:48 AM
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When mainnet start?

Max covered this well:

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We don't have an exact target date, however the public testing of our Testnet has gone very smoothly so far. We will release the mainnet version of VeriBlock when we are confident that the code performs as expected and that all of the network parameters (reward schedule, incentive structure, blocktime, etc.) are at optimal values.

https://veriblock.org
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March 22, 2018, 03:09:20 AM
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When mainnet start?

Dev did not answer my questions. It looks not very confident at this moment.  Smiley

It'll be sooner rather than later Smiley

Tweaking some parameters (block time, reward incentivization curves, etc.) based on continued testing, and once everything looks good then we'll launch mainnet.

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March 22, 2018, 03:13:54 AM
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When mainnet start?

Dev did not answer my questions. It looks not very confident at this moment.  Smiley

It'll be sooner rather than later Smiley

Tweaking some parameters (block time, reward incentivization curves, etc.) based on continued testing, and once everything looks good then we'll launch mainnet.
How to mine Veriblock? When it will be officially launched? I would like to mine Veriblock at its launch day.

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How to mine Veriblock? When it will be officially launched? I would like to mine Veriblock at its launch day.

You can download the miner from github: https://github.com/VeriBlock/nodecore-releases. There's a readme that walks through it.

Official launch will be clearly communicated on the social channels, so if you follow here, or telegram (https://web.telegram.org/#/im?p=@VeriBlock) or the channels on veriblock.org, you won't miss it.

Testing the miner now will help anyone be ready to immediately mine it on launch day.

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March 22, 2018, 05:04:35 PM
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Thank you for sharing the information, I will be attentive of this project very closely without doubt. Good luck team

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March 22, 2018, 09:10:45 PM
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DEV YOU CAN SAY WHEN THE BASIC NETWORK WILL BE LAUNCHED?

We don't have an exact target date, however the public testing of our Testnet has gone very smoothly so far. We will release the mainnet version of VeriBlock when we are confident that the code performs as expected and that all of the network parameters (reward schedule, incentive structure, blocktime, etc.) are at optimal values. Smiley


Will the coin be minable with antminer A3 ?

"Block Generation Protocol: Proof-of-Work (PoW) Mining w/ vBlake"

No, the Antminer A3 for SIA is for BLAKE2b, whereas vBlake is a modified version of BLAKE2b that introduces additional rounds, even-output-distributed 3-input logic functions, and different rotation values. That being said, a vBlake ASIC is possible to manufacture, and some of the work done in designing a BLAKE2b ASIC can be re-used in designing a vBlake one.

Thank you very much.

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March 23, 2018, 09:50:29 AM
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When mainnet start?

Dev did not answer my questions. It looks not very confident at this moment.  Smiley

It'll be sooner rather than later Smiley

Tweaking some parameters (block time, reward incentivization curves, etc.) based on continued testing, and once everything looks good then we'll launch mainnet.

Thanks. Tried some mining. I fairly say that it is very good coding, very fast, and very steady. Nice project with good luck. 
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March 23, 2018, 11:30:51 AM
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This looks good. Can SGminer mine this?
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April 04, 2018, 02:24:51 AM
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How about open a discord channel? Similar to slack, but much better.
Compared to telegram, discord is much more convenient for a large community.

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April 04, 2018, 08:50:46 AM
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How about open a discord channel? Similar to slack, but much better.
Compared to telegram, discord is much more convenient for a large community.
+1 for opening a discord channel.

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April 04, 2018, 10:37:11 AM
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I am very happy to see this project finally come to fruition, this gotta be one of the best thing that could have happened. I am very happy about this. Good job everyone! Smiley
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April 05, 2018, 01:10:55 PM
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any updates on mainnet date ?

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April 05, 2018, 02:25:01 PM
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Hmm Interesting, it seems I forked I was at almost 19k blocks on my end and i restarted and went to 17000 lmk if you need a log.
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April 05, 2018, 06:04:37 PM
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I am very happy to see this project finally come to fruition, this gotta be one of the best thing that could have happened. I am very happy about this. Good job everyone! Smiley

Thanks!

Looks like an interesting project. Will keep a close eye on your project!

Welcome aboard!


Hmm Interesting, it seems I forked I was at almost 19k blocks on my end and i restarted and went to 17000 lmk if you need a log.
That's odd, were you connected to the network before you restarted? Please upload your logs and nodecore.dat file to a new Github issue: https://github.com/VeriBlock/nodecore-releases/issues/new

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April 05, 2018, 07:21:02 PM
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Hey everyone, there is a new version of the NodeCore suite (v0.1.2), here's the changelist:

Code:
== Change log 0.1.2 ==

*NodeCore*
• Peer to peer network protocol overhauled (Breaking change)
• TLS support on Admin RPC
• RPC Password option
• Added robustness to mining pool operation (Breaking change)
• Backup wallet RPC endpoint added
• Fixed a case in which Bitcoin blockchain view was not rolled back when forked
• Introduced support for multiple networks

*CLI*
• Removed "peer" commands
• Backup wallet command
• Added support for TLS
• Added support for password

*PoW*
• ExtraNonce support added

*PoP*
• Compatibility updates with Bitcoin 0.16.0
• Added support for SegWit transactions

You can download it from here: https://github.com/VeriBlock/nodecore-releases/releases/tag/v0.1.2

The new version has significant modifications to the way the P2P protocol works, so you will need to update to this new version to stay in sync with the network. Thanks everyone!

Our team is also updating the stats server, so the dashboard may show erroneous or old data during the next half hour, while the new data is ingested into the backend.
The backend is fully updated.

Note that this is still testnet software Smiley

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April 06, 2018, 07:11:57 AM
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Hey everyone, there is a new version of the NodeCore suite (v0.1.2), here's the changelist:

Code:
== Change log 0.1.2 ==

*NodeCore*
• Peer to peer network protocol overhauled (Breaking change)
• TLS support on Admin RPC
• RPC Password option
• Added robustness to mining pool operation (Breaking change)
• Backup wallet RPC endpoint added
• Fixed a case in which Bitcoin blockchain view was not rolled back when forked
• Introduced support for multiple networks

*CLI*
• Removed "peer" commands
• Backup wallet command
• Added support for TLS
• Added support for password

*PoW*
• ExtraNonce support added

*PoP*
• Compatibility updates with Bitcoin 0.16.0
• Added support for SegWit transactions

You can download it from here: https://github.com/VeriBlock/nodecore-releases/releases/tag/v0.1.2

The new version has significant modifications to the way the P2P protocol works, so you will need to update to this new version to stay in sync with the network. Thanks everyone!

Our team is also updating the stats server, so the dashboard may show erroneous or old data during the next half hour, while the new data is ingested into the backend.
The backend is fully updated.

Note that this is still testnet software Smiley

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April 11, 2018, 10:32:01 AM
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updated to NodeCore suite (v0.1.2) and everything is working fine.

On Testnet i'm mining with a budget CPU, so I have a very low hashrate of 0.12 MH/s.

I see the Testnet's network hashrate is already at 13MH/s, how is that possible with Veriblock only allowing CPU-mining on testnet?
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April 14, 2018, 04:47:27 AM
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Hmm Interesting, it seems I forked I was at almost 19k blocks on my end and i restarted and went to 17000 lmk if you need a log.

Security looks very vulnerable by itself because can be easily forked even by a tiny hash power.
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April 15, 2018, 04:46:43 PM
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Looks interesting. Lots to read and take in so I may need to go over it again but for now Im watching.
 
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Keeping an eye on this one.

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April 17, 2018, 05:42:40 AM
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let's look at it, it seems interesting to be part of this thread i've seen more about this project, it does not look bad even i've seen the testnet and hope to see it mainnet launched



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April 19, 2018, 08:36:49 PM
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any updates on mainnet date ?

would like to know that as well.
and you have plans on exchange listing already?

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what is hashrate of ryzen 1700 vs intel 8700 k or non k

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April 25, 2018, 11:47:02 PM
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let's look at it, it seems interesting to be part of this thread i've seen more about this project, it does not look bad even i've seen the testnet and hope to see it mainnet launched


Thanks for checking us out!


How many coins can be mined? Shocked

We haven't finalized on the exact economics of the blockchain yet, but we'll let everyone know soon Smiley


any updates on mainnet date ?

would like to know that as well.
and you have plans on exchange listing already?

We are still testing and improving our software prior to launch (optimized mining software and many usability-focused improvements). We do not currently have a target date for mainnet release, but we're very excited to get mainnet lit too Smiley


what is hashrate of ryzen 1700 vs intel 8700 k or non k


An 8700k is probably somewhere around 1.4+ MH/s, I don't have a Ryzen CPU to test on.



Also: Myself and the rest of the dev team are more active on Telegram than on Bitcointalk, and new developments/pre-release software are announced there first: http://t.me/veriblock

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You should definitely add a discord channel, way easier to interact and keep everyone updated with announcements.
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May 05, 2018, 11:53:40 PM
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I forgot that project in the meantime.

I'll have to keep an eye on it.

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May 11, 2018, 09:29:17 PM
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when the official mainnet launch ?
will it be a fair launch ?

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How is this different from what Komodo is already doing? It looks like dPoW, just with a new name?
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PoP, it's strange one in the crypto ecosystem. I hope that Veriblock project will change the cryptosphere a bit with its breaking PoP.
I gonna keep watching the topic to get more updated news about VeriBlock project.
Anyway, thanks the OP creator for publishing such promising ANN.

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Today at 05:05:56 AM
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How is this different from what Komodo is already doing? It looks like dPoW, just with a new name?

I'd like to hear more as to the answers on these two questions as well please

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Today at 06:04:39 AM
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How is this different from what Komodo is already doing? It looks like dPoW, just with a new name?

Same question... the komodo guys have been providing btc level security for their chain and the asset chains they secure for over a year now. Tell me how is your concept revolutionary?
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