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October 19, 2013, 07:05:20 AM
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The Biggest Scam In The History Of Mankind - Hidden Secrets of Money
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0#t=0

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October 19, 2013, 10:08:41 AM
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This is by far the best video about money creation!  Smiley

The FRB part could be listed as a separate fraud, because that involves money circulation, most are checkbook number in banks, it does not increase the amount of base money that banks can loan out (a fraud in a fraud  Grin)

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October 19, 2013, 12:03:06 PM
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This is by far the best video about money creation!  Smiley

The FRB part could be listed as a separate fraud, because that involves money circulation, most are checkbook number in banks, it does not increase the amount of base money that banks can loan out (a fraud in a fraud  Grin)

When the central bank directly or indirectly buys debt instruments created by the government, the money comes from its own "checkbook": the only thing "backing" that money are the same debt instruments it buys. Then, this money becomes the "reserves" for commercial banks to make loans from their own "checkbook": both reserves and commercial bank loans are "checkbook money," and both increase the money supply, although the latter kind by a much larger factor.
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October 19, 2013, 01:28:22 PM
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This is by far the best video about money creation!  Smiley

The FRB part could be listed as a separate fraud, because that involves money circulation, most are checkbook number in banks, it does not increase the amount of base money that banks can loan out (a fraud in a fraud  Grin)

When the central bank directly or indirectly buys debt instruments created by the government, the money comes from its own "checkbook": the only thing "backing" that money are the same debt instruments it buys. Then, this money becomes the "reserves" for commercial banks to make loans from their own "checkbook": both reserves and commercial bank loans are "checkbook money," and both increase the money supply, although the latter kind by a much larger factor.

It is a very simple process, not that complex as you described. Don't use loan or IOU, it will be much easier to see the truth without them

Notice this: If banks loan out 90% of the deposit and those money were put under mattress by someone, then banks will immediately lose the ability to further loan out any money (money creation through FRB will stop). Although at the same time their checkbook are full of customer deposit record (All those deposit records are not money, just records. But banks call them M1)

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October 19, 2013, 01:54:42 PM
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This is by far the best video about money creation!  Smiley

The FRB part could be listed as a separate fraud, because that involves money circulation, most are checkbook number in banks, it does not increase the amount of base money that banks can loan out (a fraud in a fraud  Grin)

When the central bank directly or indirectly buys debt instruments created by the government, the money comes from its own "checkbook": the only thing "backing" that money are the same debt instruments it buys. Then, this money becomes the "reserves" for commercial banks to make loans from their own "checkbook": both reserves and commercial bank loans are "checkbook money," and both increase the money supply, although the latter kind by a much larger factor.

It is a very simple process, not that complex as you described. Don't use loan or IOU, it will be much easier to see the truth without them

Notice this: If banks loan out 90% of the deposit and those money were put under mattress by someone, then banks will immediately lose the ability to further loan out any money (money creation through FRB will stop). Although at the same time their checkbook are full of customer deposit record (All those deposit records are not money, just records. But banks call them M1)

Before we can even begin to discuss whatever you are trying to prove, I must make the following observations:

1. Commercial banks do not primarily rely on deposit money, but rather on reserve money created by the central bank against government debt. So the money commercial banks loan is always debt, issued either by the central bank or themselves.

2. It is impossible for the public to keep 90% of commercial bank money "under the mattress" because:

2.1. Less than 3% of the money supply exist in physical form.

2.2. Loans must be repaid with interest, so the public must not only return that money to their creditor banks but also give them additional money, which in turn must be created by the central bank against additional government debt.
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October 19, 2013, 06:24:47 PM
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This is by far the best video about money creation!  Smiley

The FRB part could be listed as a separate fraud, because that involves money circulation, most are checkbook number in banks, it does not increase the amount of base money that banks can loan out (a fraud in a fraud  Grin)

When the central bank directly or indirectly buys debt instruments created by the government, the money comes from its own "checkbook": the only thing "backing" that money are the same debt instruments it buys. Then, this money becomes the "reserves" for commercial banks to make loans from their own "checkbook": both reserves and commercial bank loans are "checkbook money," and both increase the money supply, although the latter kind by a much larger factor.

It is a very simple process, not that complex as you described. Don't use loan or IOU, it will be much easier to see the truth without them

Notice this: If banks loan out 90% of the deposit and those money were put under mattress by someone, then banks will immediately lose the ability to further loan out any money (money creation through FRB will stop). Although at the same time their checkbook are full of customer deposit record (All those deposit records are not money, just records. But banks call them M1)

Before we can even begin to discuss whatever you are trying to prove, I must make the following observations:

1. Commercial banks do not primarily rely on deposit money, but rather on reserve money created by the central bank against government debt. So the money commercial banks loan is always debt, issued either by the central bank or themselves.

2. It is impossible for the public to keep 90% of commercial bank money "under the mattress" because:

2.1. Less than 3% of the money supply exist in physical form.

2.2. Loans must be repaid with interest, so the public must not only return that money to their creditor banks but also give them additional money, which in turn must be created by the central bank against additional government debt.

Loan or debt means some value to be paid in future, it involves a value in a different time. Without a time axis, it is very dangerous to discuss the concept of loan, because that lacks a whole axis of freedom and you will easily mix different concept together. A $100 can not exist at two points on the time axis at the same time. If it did, one of them is an illusion, banks are creating this illusion to everyone in the name of loan

And, central bank create money to buy government debt, not against government debt, this video explained it very well

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October 19, 2013, 11:02:03 PM
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This is by far the best video about money creation!  Smiley

The FRB part could be listed as a separate fraud, because that involves money circulation, most are checkbook number in banks, it does not increase the amount of base money that banks can loan out (a fraud in a fraud  Grin)

When the central bank directly or indirectly buys debt instruments created by the government, the money comes from its own "checkbook": the only thing "backing" that money are the same debt instruments it buys. Then, this money becomes the "reserves" for commercial banks to make loans from their own "checkbook": both reserves and commercial bank loans are "checkbook money," and both increase the money supply, although the latter kind by a much larger factor.

It is a very simple process, not that complex as you described. Don't use loan or IOU, it will be much easier to see the truth without them

Notice this: If banks loan out 90% of the deposit and those money were put under mattress by someone, then banks will immediately lose the ability to further loan out any money (money creation through FRB will stop). Although at the same time their checkbook are full of customer deposit record (All those deposit records are not money, just records. But banks call them M1)

Before we can even begin to discuss whatever you are trying to prove, I must make the following observations:

1. Commercial banks do not primarily rely on deposit money, but rather on reserve money created by the central bank against government debt. So the money commercial banks loan is always debt, issued either by the central bank or themselves.

2. It is impossible for the public to keep 90% of commercial bank money "under the mattress" because:

2.1. Less than 3% of the money supply exist in physical form.

2.2. Loans must be repaid with interest, so the public must not only return that money to their creditor banks but also give them additional money, which in turn must be created by the central bank against additional government debt.

Loan or debt means some value to be paid in future, it involves a value in a different time. Without a time axis, it is very dangerous to discuss the concept of loan, because that lacks a whole axis of freedom and you will easily mix different concept together. A $100 can not exist at two points on the time axis at the same time. If it did, one of them is an illusion, banks are creating this illusion to everyone in the name of loan

And, central bank create money to buy government debt, not against government debt, this video explained it very well

The government only becomes indebted when the central bank (or anyone else) buys its debt instruments - rather than the resulting debt.

Nobody can buy a debt only created by their own act of buying it.
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October 20, 2013, 12:52:55 AM
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This video is really a masterpiece ! thanks for sharing .
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This video is really a masterpiece ! thanks for sharing .

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October 20, 2013, 03:36:37 AM
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The Biggest Scam In The History Of Mankind - Hidden Secrets of Money
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0#t=71

Thanks for sharing, good stuff to know about it...

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Before we can even begin to discuss whatever you are trying to prove, I must make the following observations:

1. Commercial banks do not primarily rely on deposit money, but rather on reserve money created by the central bank against government debt. So the money commercial banks loan is always debt, issued either by the central bank or themselves.

2. It is impossible for the public to keep 90% of commercial bank money "under the mattress" because:

2.1. Less than 3% of the money supply exist in physical form.

2.2. Loans must be repaid with interest, so the public must not only return that money to their creditor banks but also give them additional money, which in turn must be created by the central bank against additional government debt.

So there is no real money?

It is all debt based on debt with eternal interest compounding on top until mathematically impossible repayment quantities are achieved ... sounds legit.

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October 20, 2013, 10:34:12 AM
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It is all debt based on debt with eternal interest compounding on top until mathematically impossible repayment quantities are achieved ... sounds legit.

And they used to call Bitcoin a ponzi...

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I really loved this video, thanks for sharing it. I even posted it on facebook, and it sparked up a huge conversation between my friends. Way to go OP!

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Before we can even begin to discuss whatever you are trying to prove, I must make the following observations:

1. Commercial banks do not primarily rely on deposit money, but rather on reserve money created by the central bank against government debt. So the money commercial banks loan is always debt, issued either by the central bank or themselves.

2. It is impossible for the public to keep 90% of commercial bank money "under the mattress" because:

2.1. Less than 3% of the money supply exist in physical form.

2.2. Loans must be repaid with interest, so the public must not only return that money to their creditor banks but also give them additional money, which in turn must be created by the central bank against additional government debt.

I think most of these are lies that told by reserve banks. Due to the complex nature of "LOAN", maybe only one in a thousand understand how it really works. But looking from the view of the central bank, things are much eaiser to understand

A loan is a very complex operation, it involves several steps:

1. Banks first acquire the base money. Without base money, they can't loan out anything. They can get base money from their own savings, from FED or other financial institutions, when they are running out of base money, they will broke like Lehman

2. Once they had some base money, say $100, they could loan out $90 to the borrower, they credit the borrower's account with $90, at the same time, they must deposite $10 to FED as reserve

3. Since the borrower's account are credited with those $90, the effect is that the money they loaned out are immediately deposited back into the banking system (either in the same bank or another bank), thus the base money never leave the banking system. This happened almost instantly. Now they have the base money back, they could lend those out again, only 10% less each time, due to reserve requirement

But this chicken and egg loop require that they must have base money at the first place. Historically base money is gold, produced by miners, but now it is created by FED, produced by adding numbers in the checkbook

Money and debt are totally seperate concept, banks always trying to combine them together just to disguise their scam. Money is just a measure of the value of the debt, you can pay back the debt using anything like labor, security, assets, etc...




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October 21, 2013, 01:40:35 PM
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Thanks for sharing, love the video. Going to share on my facebook too and see what comment I get..

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October 21, 2013, 01:41:48 PM
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Maloney's newest video is really brilliant.
I admire him for how he tries to explain and visualize complex relationship comprehensibility.

Unfortunately most people still think this is total rubbish and worst conspiracy theories when they see videos like this.

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Maloney's newest video is really brilliant.
I admire him for how he tries to explain and visualize complex relationship comprehensibility.

Unfortunately most people still think this is total rubbish and worst conspiracy theories when they see videos like this.


Are you sure? I think most of the educated people will understand if they watch this video. It's a no brainer: No matter how hard they work, they can't create that huge amount of wealth that banks did, so banks must be acquiring those wealth through a very easy way, no hard working at all

Previously there is no such video that can explain it clearly, books from economy schools are full of text and formulas, which just spread many misconceptions about money creation

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Maloney's newest video is really brilliant.
I admire him for how he tries to explain and visualize complex relationship comprehensibility.

Unfortunately most people still think this is total rubbish and worst conspiracy theories when they see videos like this.


Are you sure? I think most of the educated people will understand if they watch this video. It's a no brainer: No matter how hard they work, they can't create that huge amount of wealth that banks did, so banks must be acquiring those wealth through a very easy way, no hard working at all

Previously there is no such video that can explain it clearly, books from economy schools are full of text and formulas, which just spread many misconceptions about money creation

Well, I can only speak about my personal environment which are mainly people in Germany. Most of them have studied.
Maybe it's a German thing. But they don't understand it or they understand it, but don't want to let it be true.
The not so "long educated" people often understand the situation faster and better then the ones you stayed too long in university etc.
Of course there are also some who understand the situation and are taking the right steps, but they are clearly the minority.
It's frustrating...
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Maloney's newest video is really brilliant.
I admire him for how he tries to explain and visualize complex relationship comprehensibility.

Unfortunately most people still think this is total rubbish and worst conspiracy theories when they see videos like this.


Are you sure? I think most of the educated people will understand if they watch this video. It's a no brainer: No matter how hard they work, they can't create that huge amount of wealth that banks did, so banks must be acquiring those wealth through a very easy way, no hard working at all

Previously there is no such video that can explain it clearly, books from economy schools are full of text and formulas, which just spread many misconceptions about money creation

Well, I can only speak about my personal environment which are mainly people in Germany. Most of them have studied.
Maybe it's a German thing. But they don't understand it or they understand it, but don't want to let it be true.
The not so "long educated" people often understand the situation faster and better then the ones you stayed too long in university etc.
Of course there are also some who understand the situation and are taking the right steps, but they are clearly the minority.
It's frustrating...


Of course most of the people who already had an idea about economy won't agree with a conflicting idea at first, but they will start to compare the concept in the video with what they learned from school and start to think. Another reason is that they fear the powerful entity, so most possibly those higher officials in the government will understand it first

I think this video is still a bit too long, if it can remove the FRB part (what presented in video is a common misconception anyway), reduce the steps to 3-4, it will be much more convincing

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October 21, 2013, 06:35:41 PM
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Maloney's newest video is really brilliant.
I admire him for how he tries to explain and visualize complex relationship comprehensibility.

Unfortunately most people still think this is total rubbish and worst conspiracy theories when they see videos like this.


Are you sure? I think most of the educated people will understand if they watch this video. It's a no brainer: No matter how hard they work, they can't create that huge amount of wealth that banks did, so banks must be acquiring those wealth through a very easy way, no hard working at all

Previously there is no such video that can explain it clearly, books from economy schools are full of text and formulas, which just spread many misconceptions about money creation

Well, I can only speak about my personal environment which are mainly people in Germany. Most of them have studied.
Maybe it's a German thing. But they don't understand it or they understand it, but don't want to let it be true.
The not so "long educated" people often understand the situation faster and better then the ones you stayed too long in university etc.
Of course there are also some who understand the situation and are taking the right steps, but they are clearly the minority.
It's frustrating...


Of course most of the people who already had an idea about economy won't agree with a conflicting idea at first, but they will start to compare the concept in the video with what they learned from school and start to think. Another reason is that they fear the powerful entity, so most possibly those higher officials in the government will understand it first

I think this video is still a bit too long, if it can remove the FRB part (what presented in video is a common misconception anyway), reduce the steps to 3-4, it will be much more convincing

Fractional-Reserve banking is essential to understanding precisely what you are failing to understand: how money becomes debt. It starts with fractional-reserve banking, then evolves into central banking.
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