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March 22, 2018, 07:15:04 AM
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My guess would be that the charts are useful for macro trading, but perhaps you want to glance at the chart over the course of years for micro trading/investing. Of course there's also cross-overs between the two and at the end of the day it may just do whatever the f it wants.
Through charts,investors are able to update their trading. There are a lot of differences from time to time when trading bitcoin. So to minimize sudden issues regarding trading,they will just recap what happened to the chart.
I believe that graphics are useless because certain lines can not give us a guess. I was following the traders who draw straight lines looking at the graphics, I think they are not successful.



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March 22, 2018, 10:41:52 AM
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In the short term it is clear that they are useful but in the long term I don't think prices follow an certain path, many things can change the long term path.
In the long term, charts are still very useful. I have always been a long term trader and I trade candle patterns, more like price actions on daily charts. I can decide to hold for as long as I can, but at the same time, I always need the chart to know the activities going on the charts and when exactly to buy or sell based on whatever analysis I am doing.

Yes, some traders may not bother with this, since they end up buy low in margins and selling the same way, but for someone who may want to make at least close to accurate decision, it is necessary.

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March 22, 2018, 11:16:31 AM
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I can see that chart analysis is extremely useful for short term traders, but how useful is it for long term investors? By long term, I mean more than two years. I think one has to step back and look at the world economy, and the changes in the banking system, and make decisions based on one's opinion of the future prospects. I'm not sure that short term price movements, or even historic data, are major factors that one should consider.

I will agree that chart analysis can help with the timing of buying, but I don't think this is a major factor in view of the long term potential for Bitcoin.

Charts analysis on a higher timeframes, speaking about monthly here, can still be very usefel. But as you said, you have to watch the fundamentals and what the situation in the space has been 2-3 years ago. For instance I think it's not good to compare the actual BTC situtation with the bear market we saw in 2014/2015.
Bitcoin and the whole ecosystem was much much smaller and technology wise a lot has changed.
So for a long term outlook it's all about following fundamentals ( read twitter news for instance) and try to ignore the daily noise! And maybe check the chart every 2-3 months.
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March 22, 2018, 12:04:13 PM
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I do not think it is not much useful, we see every second the charts on a number of markets show changes. And that means, if it will invest in the long run, it would be better to see the routine of price movements every year in certain months. Meanwhile, unexpected estimates also need to be considered, sometimes the above routines do not apply if the unexpected events that concern the price is quite a big effect.

It's just that I hope to stick to your long-term investment mission, when you see a very high price when you're still halfway through the mission. and not tempted by high prices.  Grin

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March 22, 2018, 12:13:48 PM
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I'm still holding off on claiming my Bitcoin. I still believe that the price will increase in the latter part of this year, but at the moment there seems to be a lot of turbulance. I'm not convinced that we are out of the bear market yet, although prices seem to be moving sideways more than anything. There seem to be quite a lot of political issues, and a bit of market manipulation, so one has to be careful when looking at the charts at the moment.

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March 22, 2018, 12:21:41 PM
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For a dormant investors chat is not useful, but if someone is an active investor chats are very useful to them because it will make them to know more about the market whether the price is going up or not
 So it's depends on the type of the investor.
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March 22, 2018, 04:54:06 PM
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Short answer: No Smiley
In a centralized system, plans can benefit and I can define my long-term investment plans.
bitcoin and others are decentralized, making it difficult to predict in the short term and impossible in the long term.
Investment without prior planning is a high risk investment and closer to be gambling.
I do not use these schemes/charts in the case of long term investment and better to be an unaccountable risk.

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March 23, 2018, 07:06:10 AM
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Most traders has a different strategy but i know they use chart also to determine the pattern of growth rate 'cause  it give clues and idea so it doesn't mean it's not useful ,,rather than relying on others predictions so much better to review the chart 'cause chart tells what are the specific movement of coins and indeed we can build our own strategy on it so its very useful .
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March 23, 2018, 06:03:08 PM
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actually i think charts are best for long term investors not the short term ones, from monthly to 2 years that you are looking for. because when it comes to long term all the drama goes away and becomes ineffective. but in short term the drama is all that matters and it makes using charts nearly impossible.
Chart is as useful for a long term trader as it is for a short term trader or day trader. Long term traders actually combine fundamental analysis mostly with theirs, but they also do some little bit of analysis on the charts with longer time frame to know the decision to make at any point in time and we all know there is no way you can make any good decision without at least making use of the charts.

If I am a long term investor, there is still what they call trend following and I basically cannot do trend following without still making use of the charts. I always believe some few indicators such as MA, MACD and RSI are basically all that a long term investor will need but not even necessarily all of them. As long as you a trading and you are not just holding, either long term, short or day, you will always need to be able to analyze the chart, just the time frame that differs and you do not have to check every time as a long term investor.


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March 28, 2018, 06:26:02 PM
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Hard to tell, isn't it? Two years ago, Bitcoin was hovering around the hundreds of dollar range, and yes, a move by several hundred dollars could have meant a doubling or even tripling. Not quite as easy to get that now once Bitcoin has past 10k. I don't see doublings anymore since December last year. As far as I know, I've seen short term traders, or rather, day traders say they get a lot of success, but then you see totally conflicting TA charts, and both sides make money, so really I think in day trading the swings means almost any TA can get "correct" results, depending on how they're seen.
Not even hard to tell. Every long term investor needs chart to be able to read how things are faring for whatever they are holding and to be able to make good decisions to know when to buy or sell. As long as you are not the HODL kind of person, then chart is always the best friend of every trader. How the different category of traders now analyzes is totally what differs. Long term is all about patience, and there are some indicators that work perfectly well for long term holders.

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May 20, 2018, 06:40:29 AM
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In my own opinion, I feel charts are useful to some extend because one get to have clue (forecast) what might happen(when to invest) in a particular period of the year.
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May 20, 2018, 09:54:22 AM
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I'm still holding off on claiming my Bitcoin. I still believe that the price will increase in the latter part of this year, but at the moment there seems to be a lot of turbulance. I'm not convinced that we are out of the bear market yet, although prices seem to be moving sideways more than anything. There seem to be quite a lot of political issues, and a bit of market manipulation, so one has to be careful when looking at the charts at the moment.
Two months later there is still not much of a movement in the price and i was expecting some improvement in price during the consensus and that did not happen, i really think that charts are useless in this market because the way Mt Gox is selling off the coins when ever the market increases is an event that we cannot foresee in any charts, i really hope that we will see some institutional investment coming into bitcoin later this year or next year which will take the market to new all time high valuation.














 

 

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May 20, 2018, 10:45:00 AM
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I'm still holding off on claiming my Bitcoin. I still believe that the price will increase in the latter part of this year, but at the moment there seems to be a lot of turbulance. I'm not convinced that we are out of the bear market yet, although prices seem to be moving sideways more than anything. There seem to be quite a lot of political issues, and a bit of market manipulation, so one has to be careful when looking at the charts at the moment.
Two months later there is still not much of a movement in the price and i was expecting some improvement in price during the consensus and that did not happen, i really think that charts are useless in this market because the way Mt Gox is selling off the coins when ever the market increases is an event that we cannot foresee in any charts, i really hope that we will see some institutional investment coming into bitcoin later this year or next year which will take the market to new all time high valuation.
the graph does not always show the right results. Sometimes a chart only looks at some sides, but does not think of anything else. So it is best to choose to make a decision at that time. It is very difficult to predict a thing in the world of crypto so doing the action quickly and precisely at that moment is also the most careful choice.

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Chart is helpful but not that much. You can tell and predict the value using charts but there are a lot of ups and down charts happening for a long term. Maybe if you want to sell your coins for the next month after holding it for years,it would become helpful.

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May 20, 2018, 01:56:08 PM
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Analysing charts can help for short term traders but you have to be a genius to determine the price after one month or more just from reading and analysing charts. It can easilly mislead you.
To predict the price you have to stay update and read all the related news.
Its a big Yes for me. Tracking chart for bitcoin price can really help longterm investors. Though there are many ups and downs it made at a certain month but in longterm investments, only the big spikes of increase are their bases when to buy, to hold and when to sell off their coins.
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I personally think most charts were made to be used in real markets. People think those are great reference ARE wrong. I am long term investor and I only look at market caps. If it drops its okay to buy for me.

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May 21, 2018, 07:17:38 AM
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I think charts are working well for short-term traders although it works well for long-term investors too because they can see and make the estimation how long they want to hold. besides that, long-term investors don't need to check the charts too often but maybe once in a month to see where the price wants to go. and if the price suddenly goes down too deep, the long-term investors can make a decision related to their coin investment so they could save their money.

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May 21, 2018, 07:31:37 AM
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I think it's basically useful.. but maybe more guesswork with that, from the graph I think we can only see the price developments from the previous years and then compare them up to now, and it can't be sure to make a profit for the long term, due anyhow it all depends on various things that can affect the development of price such as news in particular.

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May 21, 2018, 08:01:14 AM
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Very useful because is with the of chart that one can take a look into history of the market and predict what will in the future and probably make a long term decision, I strongly believe chart is useful in trading decision making.

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May 21, 2018, 08:21:49 AM
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I'm still holding off on claiming my Bitcoin. I still believe that the price will increase in the latter part of this year, but at the moment there seems to be a lot of turbulance. I'm not convinced that we are out of the bear market yet, although prices seem to be moving sideways more than anything. There seem to be quite a lot of political issues, and a bit of market manipulation, so one has to be careful when looking at the charts at the moment.
useful but it will not be too important, we are holding for long periods of time and if you do not see the market even in a few days it will not be a problem, so chart is not important to watch every day but chart is also useful to see market development, and maybe from the chart you can decide when to sell

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